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THE ATLANTA GEORGIAN AND NEWS. WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 25, IDO’S EDITED BY SP PA™ G 1 ANOTHER UNE OF DOPE ON TECH AND VANDERBILT IP. H. WHITING ! NOT NEWS, BUT VIEWS n By PERCY H. WHITING. Unless Dan McGugin performs n football miracle Vanderbilt is not going to have anything likn the team this fall that it had last. The bunch that administered a moral walloping to Michigan and the real thing to the Carlisle Indinns is a badly wrecked af fair and it looks as though it would take a couple of years to put it back in its old proud place. The writer watched the Vanderbilt sqtind in action Monday afternoon and while very little can be told in so short a time and practically nothing definite until a game or two has been played, still it is obvious that the Vanderbilt material is not what it was last year. The big weakness is going to be at the tackle positions and at fullback. Joe Pritchard and Owsley Manicr are men whose places can not be filled by any men now on the Vanderbilt field. Morton, a long, slatty gentleman from Ilrnuham and Hughes School, is being worked at the full back position right now and in some ways he “looks good.” lie is tall, fairly well built and seems to get in the game with some animation. It is n question which it will take work under fire to bring out as to whether or not he is well enough muscled to stand tho strain of the full back’s position. , The other new man in the back field threatens to he nenry Williams, the ex-Gordon player. Williams is regarded as a bit light for the place and he will have to work for his position, but right now he is showing up well. He knows football and that puts him in a class above most of tho new Vanderbilt material. Two back field positions will be occupied by veterans—John Craig at half and Costen at quarter. Craig is off-weight to an alarming extent, but is hard as nailq and fast ns ever—which is very fast. With a new full back and n new hnlf back this year the vet eran “Honus” is likely to have a lot of work to do. Costen is the samo old near-bald-headed, wizen-up, old look ing man as of yore—and still undoubtedly tho best Southern quarter-back since the days of Frank Kyle. He is as cool-headed a chap ns ever played in tho South, and the way he handles a football—and tho team—is worth watching. Stono was not out Monday, but ho will be on hand in a few days and will very probably play center, though he may be shift ed somewhere else in the line. Right now the make-up of the line-up from center to the ends is a matter of gravo doubt. Of courso Rob Blake will play one end nnd Vaughn Blake the other. Bob is now, as he has been since his college debut, the best end in the South. Vaughn has put on a lot of weight nnd threatens to rank with Bob this year. Ho is n heady player and is coming around in fine style. Bob will do the punting nnd place kicking this year and Vaughn will be his substitute. Morton, the full back candidate, seems to have some little ability ns a drop-kicker. Of course McLain is another eertninty for the line. He is extremely fat at present and can’t make much speed, but Mc- Gugin’s methods of “Keep it going, boys,” will soon tak»off tho surplus. If he can develop speed nnd aggression he will doubtless mako all-Southern this year—which he didn’t last. But that ends it ns far as certainties go. Sherrill, one of the most-talked-of candidates, will never do. He is hewed out along the classic lines of n keg nnd his running is like that of a suck of meal. Also he is too everlastingly good- natured. He will practice all day with a foolish grin on his face —and the smiling variety of footbalt players have gone out. The game is too serious for them. Gowan and Griffiths arc being tnlked of ns tackles. If they make good and nre the best ever it is an awful proposition to have n green pair of men in that position, -a A man who is not being talked of any, hut who looks good, is Haslock. This man has been in Vanderbilt two years, but has not been allowed to play oy his parents. This year, how ever, it is thought that he will be able to get in the line-up. The Nashville papers are keeping very quiet, about it, however, for fear that his parents will Hgain “put their feet down.” Haslock looks rather like old “Red" Taylor, who played so aggressively in the line for Tennesseo, and Vanderbilt, and will doubtless put up the same kind of a game. He is one of the long, slim, alert players and lie will certainly make the opposition hump if he gets in the game. Campbell, the man who wns counted on ns n full back, will probably turn up at St. Louis University. The entrance require ments at Vanderbilt arc said to be too stout for him. However, McGugin has not quite given up hope. The Commodores nre, just at present, shy nn assistant conch. Frank Kyle wns counted on, but has not shown up. At present McGugin, Craig, Bob Blake and some of the veterans are doing what they can to develop a scrub team which will give the var sity an argument. . \ It is a shame to see tho Vanderbilt team of 1906 broken up. That new back field, no matter how good it may become, will lack the balance of the 1006 combination and the shoes of 0. Manier nre not likely to be filled in many moons. What McGugin can do with the new mnterial is a matter worth careful consideration. He hns some big men, but the ones with the weight are the very ones who have the least football knowledge and apparently the least football sense. Those new men grab at the ball awkwardly, fall on it in gawky style, run like those unproficient at the art, nnd are more or less raw, inapt and generally left-handed. In these men lies Vanderbilt’s problem. If Dan McGugin can take the heat of them and build up football players he will ac complish a miracle. And he will have to hurry, for the Navy comes October 12. MERCER BEGINS PRACTICE UNDER COACH SCHENCKER With J. H. Schracker to coach the Mercer eleven this fall, everybody Is looking for . team far superior to the one which represented the Baptist In stitution last fall. Coach Bchencker comes to Mercer fr.m the University of Texas, where have a splendid team this year. Yesterday really began the fall’s practice. The largest squad of the season was out. The coach officially announced that all candidates must go In training regularly. ,At present Scog- 111 UUHIIIB it*Kuiuriy. yAl present SCOf> gin. liuit year’s left tackle; Shaw, cap tain and fullback of last year’* team; he turned out a team ia»t year that iW 0 ?* Former, Mallory, Duncan, lost only one game. This was under £ poison. Jameson Sutton and D. Parker, of the scrubs last year, corn- only one game. This was under great disadvantages, as the team rode l.SOO miles and played the mighty KaahvtUe. ’■Vandy” team at - M A-.? chen ' •w "as on the Yale team of 1105 and HO->ed to bring his team through mail- .lories, Considering his record „■ Vj.e, combined with that a " -tul year’s work at Texas, there is no iieason, so far as the coach “ voncerneif, why Mercer should not V pose the old men whoJAve reported. Landrum, who played fullback for Boys’ High Bchooi, Atlanta; Bell, of Locust Grove; Spurlln, H. IMrker Knight, Boxeman and others look good just at s glance. There are several candidates for each K iltlon. At center Chapman and Ight are working hard. D, Parker, FOUR MEMBERS OF THE TECH SQUAD HARD WORK AND EXAMS! "PIGGY” HIGHTOWER. "SOLDIER” COFER. JACK SPALDING. GEORGE SPEARS. Here are four men who are practicing daily with the Tech team, Hightower is a Chattanooga boy, who played good football with tho Tech team last year. Hs is a bit light, but vary fast, Cofsr is the big soldier, who played with the Fort McPhcrion team. He has weight and speed and ought to make a good half back. Spears and Spalding are members of tho scrub team, who may make reputations for themselves later. These Are the Stunts Out at Tech These Days. HEISMAN AFTER ASSISTANT COACH Hall of Swarthmore May Be Secured—Scrimmages Are “On." Scrimmage work, examinations and the hunt for an assistant coach are In enrnest at Tech. And the combination Is wearing out Coach Helsman and telling on the play, era'. BOWLERS GET BUSY Old Rivals Clash in Opening Battles At Case’s Alleys. The bowling season of 1907-’08 will be ushered In Wednesday night, when the Atlanta Bowling Team locks horns with the Georgia Railway team for throe games on tho George W. Case alleys. With the advent or cooler weather the boys will round Into form, and tho bowling fans of the city will be treated to a season of good bowling. The Atlanta team Is beginning Its fourth season and It may be mentioned thnt It wns not defeated last season, although It bowled practically every promlnont team In the South. This team won the Southern Bowl- e to take care of Itself. There will be a number of teams, composed of live men, In the city this season, and a committee Is now at work organising a city league. The teams already formed are: The Atlanta, Georgia Railway, Ath- Ictlet, Soldiers and Piedmonts. These teams are nil composed of good bowlers and arc able to give their op ponents a warm reception. Games be gin Wednesday night at »:20. The pub lic Is cordially Invited. "1 lost s gold bracelet out of s esr win dow. I placed a 30c want advertisement In The Georgian sml got It hack.” A want nd and 40e box of Wiley’s candy, 30c, Friday nnd Saturday. BURNS CHALLENGES AL CHRISTENSEN. Sporting Editor Atlanta Georgian: I wish to challenge Al Christensen for n wrestling match, to take place at any time In the nenr future at any place where a suitable purse can be se- cured. KID BURNS. TECH REGULARS PLAY RECRUITS The Ter': regulars and the Tech re cruits will play a game Saturday aft ernoon, which wilt open the football season for Atlanta. White this game will be more or less of the faculty will bo admitted free. Just how the teams will line up has not been announced, but on one side will be last year’s regular players and scrubs and on the other will be an eleven composed of the new men. BENEFIT BATTLE of n practice affair, ndmlsslon will be some of the best of Tech’s material is charged to all except Tech students, [among the new men. the game Is'likely These men can secure admission free on matriculation cards. All members . , y to bo more even than would appear at first glance. FINAL STANDINGS OF SOUTHERN PITCHERS How the Twirlers Finished Up the Season, and Our Dope on the All-Southern Slabmen. The Anal dope on the standing of the pitchers In the Southern League Is sat isfactory to Atlantans, for It shows Moc- kenxle, of the Cracker elan, on top. and Caatleton, of the same brigade, tied with Guese for the leadership nmong the regulars. Zeller Is third among the regulars, Spade sixth and Ford seventh. And Schopp, who Is nn ex-Atlanta man and who will be with Bill Smith’s corps next year, Is second among the pitchers of the league, being led only by ’’Corkscrew Scotty" Mackenxle. question of the pitchers of the ull- WIRELESS CLEAR TO EUROPE SOON, SAYS MARCONI will rrinnlu hor«‘ until wlrcIrMii rommnnlrn tlnn with Europe him Iiren put n blinked on n commercial ImihIm. II* expect* this will lie done within three week* lie Minted that the average apeed lined In minute, and that the rate would \*e 10 a word for ordinary ootnmerela! nieiwageii and 5 rent* a word for nreaa dleputi he*. Thla rate, be aald, would be cut In two The meaaagea tent In the atatlon nt Glace Hay will !*e received on the other aide of the Atlautle at Cllfdeif, Ireland, where a new* plant baa been.eatnldlnhrd. 00000000000000000000000000 0 REAL EXPERT WILL O O WRITE FOR GEORGIAN. 0 o John Craig, half back on the § o football team and shortstop on the O O baseball team, will act ns The O O Georgian's Vanderbilt correspond- 0 O ent during the scholastic year. 0 O Mr. Craig has had some newspa- 0 O per experience with The Memphis O O News Scimitar, and will furnish 0 O The Georgian an excellent line of O O dope from “Old Vandy.” O O • ' Q | ; ; J 00000000000000000000000000 j Southern team which the writer atarted I to plqk some time back. We have long had a sneaking notion ■•WHITEY" GUESE. He tied with Cnstleton for first plare among the Southern League pitcher*. Scoggln, Dunaway, Mallory, Salter, Sudderth, White, Farmer, Ball and Gellespte are lighting hard for the line positions. Melton; H. Parker. Spurlln, T. Farmer, Melton, Boxeman and Sud derth arc making the race warm for the ends. At quarter Jameson. Sutton and White have It. The back field has a many-sided contest, with Shaw, Lan drum, Newman. Griffin, Nicholson and Malone as the chief contender*. (ley's candy, Me, Friday that the real teat of a pitcher’s merit was h|s ability to win games. We have never sympathised much with the claims of those who put Suggs, for ex. ample, on the all-Southern team, be cause he was such a wonder. It Is,, hard to see what help fancy curve* and marvellous control are to a man provided they do not win game* for him, especially when, he la on the team that finished second In the league race. Bearing this In mind, the writer would put Caatleton, Guese. , Zeller, Wilhelm and Ford on his pitching staff. Over Caatleton there can be no ar gument. He Is the best pitcher In the league, and as good n left-hander as the league has had since Breltensleln's lire went out. Curves, control nnd nerve- all these things Roy had In good meas ure. But Guese nnd Zeller—the "Yellow Streak Twins"—do they "belong?" We think yes. Maybe they haven't enough nerve between them to start a nerve factory, but they won games. Up to the time that overwork put Zeller to the bad he was quite Invincible, and after that he was a fairly satisfactory ■pitcher., Guese Is an old wonder. Let him get a good start and npbody can hit him. Besides, he has the most marvellous control In the league and ran win games somehow. Now nnd then he gets his wallops In awful style, but he will win enough games to help some. Wilhelm gets a job easily. On a weak, disorganized team he pitched great ball, and with Atlanta or Mem phis would have come near leading the league. Ford gets the job because he Is the best spit-ball artist In the league. The only man who has an earthly chance to get the place away from him Is Bob Spade—and It hurts to leave Bob off the team. On his form at the close of the season he could outpltch any man In the league. Moreover he could hit anil field. As a utility man he had only one equal in the league—Sid Smith. If Shields had pitched through the whole or even a large part of the sea son he . would doubtless have won a place on (he team. But not much could be told by what he did In ten games. The final average* of the pitchers follow: Game Between the Amateur Champions Should Be a Hummer. That the fans of the city were going to see some fancy amateur baseball and that the Old Ladles' Home was due to get a boost was assured St soon as It was announced that the Sun Proof team, winner of the pennant In the Commercial League, and the Carter & Gillespie team, winner of the pennant In the City League, were due to elash for tho city championship. This game should really be a big event. Both teams arc made up of fast ball players and should put UP * great fight for the championship of Atlanta. On the strength of having Ed La- fitte, who is really a big league pitcher, the Carter & Gillespie team rather has nn edge on the Sun Proofs, but Harry Harmon, the Commercial League star. Is no slouch, and he will be backed up by a team which has hit tho ball and fielded In fine style all the season. The friends of both leagues—and they are very numerous—will be out In force to see the champions battle, and they will be reinforced by the fans who want to see the game played nnd by the people who want to help along the Old Women's Home. The game Is to be played Saturday, and starts at 3 o’clock. I lost a gold bracelet out of a ear win dow. I placed q 30c want advertisement in The Georgian nnd got It hack.'' A wont ml * ”V* 1v of Wflnv'a I'nnilv 9IV> FpIJhv WHERE THEY PLAY TODAY. National, Philadelphia nt Chicago. New York nt Pittsburg. Itrcsiklyn st St. I/mls. (iuelunall nt Boston. E. Duggan, Nashville Keith. Little Rock . . J. Duggan, Nashville . Hickman, Shreveport Breltensteln, N. O. . Yerkes, Nashville Oraham, Shreveport ... .11 Purdue, Nashville . . . . . I W. .17 Mnckensle, Atlanta . Schopp, Nashville. . Shlc'ds, Memphis . . Cat ton. Atlanta. . Ouom, New Orleans. Zeller. Atlanta 1* Crlstall, Memphis 12 GaskMI, Shreveport. . . .12 Wilhelm, Birmingham. . .19 Spade, Atlanta 18 Walters, Little Rock .... 3 Ford, Atlanta It Bills, Memphis 18 Maxwell, Montgomery . .14 Fisher. Shreveport 11 Clarke, Birmingham . . .17 Fritz. New Orleans L. Pc. 2 .818 2 .750 3 .700 8 .680 8 .680 9 .679 6 .667 .633 .633 .600 20.600 11 12 Fritz. New Phillips. New Orleans k . . Kyler, Little Rock Suggs, Memphis . . . Stockdale. Memphis . , Malarkey, Montgomery Beeker, Shreveport . . .14 .16 Sorrell, Nashville Reagan, Birmingham . Walsh, Montgomery , Manuel, New Orleans .593 .593 11 .560 8 .550 14 .548 11 .542 12 .538 11 .536 15 .631 11 .631 9 .526 11 .522 4 .600 10 .474 It .467 20 .459 It .448 CLOSE IN AMERICAN LEAGUE PHILADELPHIA. Tied with Detroit. 8 points ahead of Chicago. 19 games to play. 12 games at home. With Detroit 4, Chicago 2, Cleve- Detroit 4, land 3, New York 2, St Louis 1. • 7 games abroad. With New York 1, Boston 1, Washington 5. DETROIT. Tied with Athletics. 8 pointr ahead of Chicago. 15 games to play. N Nc games at home. .15 games abroad. With Philadelphia 4, New York 1, Boston 2, 81. Louis 4, Washing* ton 4. CHICAGO . 8 points behind Philadelphia. 8 points behind Detroit. 12 games to play. 2 games at home. With Cleveland 2. 10 games abroad. Witl. Washington 1, Philadelphia 2, Detroit 2, Cleveland 1, New York 3, Boston 1. Turner, Birmingham Weems, Montgomery . . MeWeller, Birmingham. .429 .429 .421 .400 .400 .417 .399 .364 .236 .280 .000 ‘ ,,t . K ° ne ‘han the strain before the biggest game of the year-thl, watting to see -what examinations do to us.” said Coach Helsman Wednev day afternoon. "We can’t help beiq. uneasy until they nre over.” Right now Coafh Helsman has a marvelously good squad of men—big strong, fast and willing workers. If they can par, their entrance examina tions or dei.iollsh the conditions that might keep them off the field, then the coach can feel sure of turning out a good .team. But the examination, may cut down the slxe and strength of tho squad very materially. No assistant coach has been scrured ns yet. Hall, of Swarthmore, had been practically engaged and seemed very anxious to come, but recently nothing has been heard of him. He may come or ho may not. If he docs not, some body else will be secured. The assist- ant coach will handle the scrub team and will devote his energies to building up a machine for Helsman's regulars to tear to pieces. Scrimmages have been the order since Saturday. Tuesday afternoon there was a warm engagement be- tween tho first team and .the scrubs and hair flew. "Chip" Robert and Charley Sweet of them will doubtless see their best soason this year. was worked at half and show fairly well. He has a good deal » learn, notably about following Inter' ferencc, but he will learn It all right and ought to have a place cinched. ■ Hill played a nice game at end and i like n regular this year. Ruchan looks . an Is showing up well and may be given the quarter back Job, and Robert shift, ed to end. , year. No possible line can be got on the team ns yet. Coach Helsman Is shift Ing the men from one position to an nnythtng definite will tho arrangement of the men. Standing of the Clubs. ! .CLUBS— Philadelphia . . , Detroit Cblcaco . . . • • Cleveland . . . . , New York . • • • Botton Hf. Loala . . . . , Washington . . • l’Ittfttmrir . . Sow York . . I'hlludelphla . Brooklyn , Cincinnati 142 SO K Bouton 139 53 8t. Louis 142 44 M TUESDAY’S RESULTS. American. Now York 4. Cleveland I Chicago 8, Philadelphia 3. Detroit 8, Bouton 1 St. Louis 10, Wnnblnffton 1 National. Ittslmrg 0/ rinrlnnntl 16. Bouton Brooklyn 6. St. Lnuln 1. Cblcflgo-i’hilnrlelphla, postponed; <*old. WHY NOT SI6N ITT To the gentleman who wrote to til a lot of questions about the pre ,en ‘ location of Jimmy Smith, Frank, ad Powell and some others: The Georgian pays no more nttentlM to unsigned queries than It does to un signed communications. Tell Them You Knowl You may tell your friends* on our **say-so t 99 that when they buy a package of the genuine Arbuckles’ Ariosa Coffee they get the best of the coffee trade* No coffee of equal quality can be sold in this town for the same price, whether it be sold out of a bag or a bin, or under some romantic trade-mark. You may tell the^ you know and that Arbuckle Brothers, the greatest cqff ee dealers in the world, will stand for it« ARBUCKLE BROS., New York City. / i