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THE ATLANTA GEORGIAN ANT) NEWS. WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 13,1907. SPORTING PAGE BIG DOINGS IN GEORGIA FOOTBALL CAMPS THIS WEEK EDITED 3Y IP. H. WHITING ! NOT NEWS, BUT VIEWS FOUR VANDY FOOTBALLISTS By PERCY H. WHITING. It look* as though the Cotton State* were trying to “play the pig" with Mobile. That city ha* outgrown the 'organization, but the Cotton Stater* don't know it. and refuse to let the Alabama club pull out unless $2,500 and the guarantee money in the league treasury are given to the clubs remaining in the organization. Of course Mobile is not going to do any such stunt; and threatens, if forced into a corner, to form n small independent league and send the Shreveport franchise to Algiers, La. Probably the Cotton States League will display a little sense later on and give the Mobile franchise to Hattiesburg or somo other good town in a class with the rest of the Cotton States bunch and let Mobile play in the Southern League. If Mobile gets in the Southern League all right that will give Alabama three clubs in the organization. Then if Chattanooga pulled in Tennessee would have three. The only two clubs out side those two states would be the beat town* of Georgia and Louisiana and the Southern would be a reasonably compact league which would help a lot. now that “club rates” are out of vogue and every baseball association has to pay full fare for every man on the club. The Atlanta Athletic Club is making preparation* for a foot- elae bail team and it will be, like everything etae connected with that organization ,n first-class affair. But somehow the writer finds it difficult to believe that it was a wise move to get up such a team. Athletic club football is passing out. So is Y. M. C. A. foot ball. So are all varieties of the game but the straight college and ichool article. Athletic club members can not properly prepare for football. It takes a long, hard course of training—it take* two or throe hour* of work every week-day afternoon from September 15 to Oc tober 1 to harden a team for the gruelling grind of the football field, to render them immune to serious injury. "RINGERS USED,” CHARGES G. RICE Says That Georgia Paid Men to Play Against Tech, and Gives Names and Amounts Paid. On the left is Sherrill, the heaviest men on the Vanderbilt team. Next him ie “Stein” 8tone, all-South- !?" C i* n n r L J5* 8 » ul »y, a sub tackle, who will doubtleea get in the game against Tech. Next i-.iit.Ji B ° fa Blake, all-Southern end, and on the right te Morrison, tub fullback of the Commodores team, who is likely to play against the Yellow Jackets in the second half. GEORGIA AND TECH TEAMS ARE PREPARING FOR GREAT GAMES Georgia and Glemson Mak ing No Noise, But Pre paring for Meeting. The athletic club got away with it nil right last senson. And they may do it again this year. But some time this team will go against some team from another city and somebody will get killed and then watch out and see what your legislature does for foot ball. It is absurd to try and combine business and football. If you are going in for one you have to drop the other. Word comes from New York that, rather than deprive “Tough .lawn” McGraw from the plensures of the racing game the owners of the National League club in New York arc going to “can” the scrappy manager and make Roger Bresnahau leader of the Giants for 1908. And a good job it will be, too. “Scrappy Mac’s” day* are done as a manager. i long As long as he attended to the game and ns long as hi* pecn- I in the National League he was liar style of baseball' was tolerated winner. Bnt times have changed. And with the change will come the relegation of «F. J. McGraw to the race track, where he belongs. And not a man who cares for clean baseball will be particu larly sorry. ALGIERS, LA., MAY SECURE SHREVEPORT'S FRANCHISE A silence like unto that of an unten anted grave la arising from Georgia and Clemson these days. But for all that you can take It from ua that both teams are working to the limit to get ready for thetr meeting at Ponce DeLeon park Saturday after noon. which seaelon begins at 3 o'clock. This game will certainly be one of the star affairs of the season. TY COBB IS GIVEN WATCH Big Crowd Turns Out to See Georgia Ball Player Honored. New Orleans. La., Nor. U.—Last light at a conference In Mobile be tween President H. T. Ingo, Secretary 'olson. of the Mobile Club, and Man- tger Charlie Frank, of New Orleans, t was practically decided that If the 'otton States I-rogtie required Mobile ■o pay for her withdrawal from the 'otton Btates aggregation, the frnn- •hlse would be plnced In Algiers, a ■uburb of New Orleans. Manager Frank had been culled to tfoblle to give hla consent to the pro- msed removal of the franchise, which ras recently purchased by Mobile from Ihreveport. If a franchise Is placed In Algiers a new park will have to be built and New Orleans will have continuous baseball. Algiers Is a part of New Orleans, and before a franchise could be placed there the consent of organised base ball will have to be obtained. Organ ised baseball will abide by the wishes of the Pelican club In the matter, which means that If Mobile's plan to place the franchise In the <'otton States League does not pan out Algiers will become a member of the Southern League. That would make one of the most compact baseball organisations In the world, cutting down the Southern’! mileage considerably and drawing from a considerably Increased population. Gordon Slightly Blemished . By Battle With Chattanooga Ipeelsl to lbs Georftea. Barneevllle, Ga.. Nov. IS.—Gordon’s earn came out of her set-to with the taavy Chattanooga University team lightly dilapidated and with several ,f the regulars out of the ring. Cockran was more disfigured than my of his team-mates and had to re- Ire from the game toward the middle •f the last half. Johnson followed soon after Cockran. hough hit Injuries were not of such a lature aa to force hla retirement. The nach thought best, however, to with- Iraw him and give the substitutes a ihance to show how they would stand he going In such a fierce game. Captain Prout also gave place to a sibatltute. Peebles going In at center. >rout was not injured in any way, but ras taken out rather than let him run he risk of being too badly Injured to •et In the Mercer game. The Gordon team la working hard for he game with the Baptiste, and while -awrence, Moore, Cockran and Hogg vave not been able to report for prec- ice since the game last Friday, the nach and captain are fortunate In wvtng such substitutes as Woodbum. Peebles, Jones, McWhorter and Henley to fill their places temporarily. Henley and McWhorter, who work ed out In the game Friday, are com ers, and will push some regular for a place before the season ends. Had not Henley been Injured the early part of the season and If McWhorter had come out for practice earlier both would have been star playara by this time. Both men were green at the gai when they entered school, but hare proven ept pupils and will be stars next season. Woodbum. who succeeded Cockran at half, proved a fast man and a good ground-gainer, though he seemed a bit nervous and was not quick to break Into a play on the defense. Johnson proved u valuable substi tute at end. Hogg being out of the en tire game, having been hurt In scrim mage the Wednesday before the game. He Is especially quick In gelling on a fumbled ball and la me of the It ret men down under punts. He, with Law rence and Cockran, were the stellar lights of the game here Friday, and they will no doubt make thetr pres ence felt against Mercer Saturday should they all get In the line-up. Stanton, the Tramp Pugilist, Gets Best of J. Carroll By TAD. New Tort. Nov. IX—Walter Stanton teat JoJjnny Carroll In the six-round •out at Brown’s gymnasium last night. Itanton Is tha San Francisco middle weight, who came East In a "side door •ullman" soma months ago and trlm- ned everything of hla weight In the •nail fry division, winning the hearts •f the local sports by his great work. Johnny Carroll Is one of the seasoned Last night they met and Stanton ron in avery round except the Oret. He Is a square-shouldered fellow, with oulte a large head, and hla opponent le a lanky peraon, with long arms and bmsd shoulders, like old Fits Stan ton ripped lefta to the body and by eo fast that Carroll had neither time to block or hop away. Blanton barked him around the ring. Jabbing, hooking and upper-cutting. Carroll was wait ing for a good right, but the chance never rime. Stanton has the chance of his life on next Monday, when he meets Billy Papke, at Boston. “I can play one game a little, hut I can't play this speaking game a bit,” said Ty Cobb, blushlngly, on the stage at the Orpheum Tuesday night. In his hand he held a handsome gold watch given by his Georgia admirers, and the heavy batter of the Tigers looked weak as a kitten. One of the biggest crowds that ever filled the Orpheum braved the nasty weather to aee Ty Cobh. They cheered him when he entered the box with Mayor Joyner. Lowry Arnold and sev eral others, and when he stepped before the full gase, the assembled fans and the footlights got In their work, the hoys In the roost and the fans In front all gave a shout. Mayor Joyner presented Lowry Ar nold. who In turn Introduced Ty Cobb and presented him with the watch. Ty accepted It ami looked proud. He said he couldn't speak very much, unless It was to an umpire, but the mayor re marked afterward: '•Ty, you've got me bent a city block on a speech. You made good- from the start." Heisman to Use Same Team Against Vandy He Did Against Sewanee. Through slush, mud, rain, sleet and despite discouragements that would shrivel the heart of n lees courageous leader than Coach Heisman, the Tech team plowed steadily along Tuesday In preparation for the game with Van derbilt on Saturday. As though there had not been enough hard luck already. Charley Sweet, who has been going around and playing pic. tureaque football, despite a caved-ln chest, met with another accident Tues day afternoon and had to retire from the scrimmage. And to add to the other difficulties one of the most prominent members of the team—Hill—Is threatened with the wrnth of the faculty and may retire from football soon to spend more time on his studlex. Right now It appears that, barring any further accidents, the Tech team which plays Vanderbilt Saturday will be Identical with the one that faced Sewanee last week. Snyder Is a sure thing for center. "Tiny" Henderson will be at right guard. Probably Gordon Smith will play the other guard. But Monday and Tuesday he was missing from practice, and his studies, and Coach Heisman had a search warrant and a posse of football sleuths out on his trail at last reports. If he turns up all right, the left wing will be the famous Smith- Brmvn-Jones combination. By GRANTLAND RICE. Of alt bare-faced and flagrant vio lations of collegiate sport, the stunt perpetrated hy the University of Geor gia in her game against Tech sets a new limit. The evidence has been turned over to us from several sources, absolutely re liable, that Coach Whitney used at least four ringers and probably more In that Atlanta conflict. To begin with. Georgia held secret practice ten days before that game, at which no student nor any one from the outside was permitted to attend. Upon arrival In Atlanta. Whitney and the red and black manager refused to onnounce any line-up. The squad was hustled to a hotel without being per mitted to even register. And that afternoon against Tech the Georgia squad loomed upon the field with a aet of stalwarts whom the bulk of the Georgia student body had never seen nor heard of before. For five or ten minutes at a time they Rlmply battered Tech up and down the field, but always gave out after a few rounds of piny, showing a woeful lark of wind and training. And now the secret Is out. Among those employed by Georgia for this occasion were: Edmondson, the old Georgetown star, who also played right field for Joe Cantlllon's American League team last fall; Martel and Neal, both ex-Georgetown knights, and an other ex-Syracuse athlete in addition to Rossller, captain of Savannah's two famous Blue and White professional football teams. These men left Atlanta Saturday night, returning East, and confessed upon the northbound train that the)' had received $1(0 and all expenses from the Georgia management. All this Is now common property In Atlantn. and has turned a great num ber of former sport lovers against all forms of college sport. It Is a per formance that the S. I. A. A. ran not afford to overlook If the high purpose and Integrity of this association Is to be maintained. Wo have no prejudice der proper faculty athletic gjkianc. and with a high-grade coach the m-M ent situation at the Red and Bliek stronghold would not be so. * But unfortunately It IS so— n „ r Professor Holmes, of Mercer, vice prei blent In charge of that territory 7l depended upon to set things right" n. Holmes Is honest and well meanlnr but molt PvMpnflv InpanuMo . ?• but moet evidently Incapable for post. Georgia was not even ceniured by him for refusing to announce her line-up and bringing men upon ths Held whom the student body hod nevrr seen nor heard of. Georgia supporters retaliate bv at*,. Ing that Heisman In playing Da,|. whom they claim has played profes. atonal ball. To which Heisman himself r.pli,,- "The flames and addresses of ererj man on my team are either known or open to the public. Every man hu matriculated In proper order, passed all entrance examinations, and le now keeping up with Tech's hard technic*! course. Every m»n has signed every eligibility requirement, and as for u I know or have been possibly able t» And out, every man Is eligible. If any one know* any fact to the contrary I will gladly accept hts proof and see that the guilty one I* Immediately pm off the squad. I have charges against certain men on the Tech team, and with the help of our faculty represen tative. have looked Into them thor- oughly. Every charge made >u proven absolutely without foundation. One of niy men, Johnson, was ruled out for a full month, pending such Investl- gallon, and In the end reinstated, n the charge was proven to be foolish and false.” Georgia is one of the oldest. If not the oldest, universities In Dixie. Pear Institutions anywhere have turned out any abler set of alumni, and when her athletics were pure there was no cot. lere In the South above her level. But affairs have changed, end not only for the sake of S. I. A. A. sport, but for her own sake as well, the pres ent athletic body at Athene should he In any way against the University of turned out In toto and a new regime Georgia, believing as we do that un- I established.—Nashville Tenneasean. PERRY LIPE WILL MANAGE RICHMOND right In his work, despite I all Jones will be the left end. At right tackle will be the famous Davis, and at right end will perforin M'LAURIN. It Is doubtful If there Is a bel ter tackle In the South this year than McLaurln, who Is leading tha f’lenison Tigers. Ills work against Georgia Saturday will doubtless be brllllunt. The New York papers are talking about a clash to a conclusion between < 'Imrle* Comiskey and Ban Johnson, with Comiskey the top choice In the betting. This Is something we refuse to believe, pending the release of. a goml yam. him In tho meanwhile. If It does, Tech will again be robbed of a punter, and It Is probable that Davis will be called back to do the long-distance booting. Davis Is undoubtedly the prise leath er smasher of the tram, but up to the present he has been more needed In the line than as a ball-lifter. But times are changed and It looks os though he would get the next call. "Piggy” Hightower will do the quer terbaelt performance and Sweet nnd Fltsslmmons will play the halves. John, son will again perform at full. It Isn’t a bud team and will doubt less give Vanderbilt a hustle. There Is no chance that either Rob ert or Buchanan, who were Injured In the Georgia gaifle, will be back and do ing business Saturday. »,„ -I,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,-,,,— BIG EASTERN ELEVENS BUSY TOO i ARMY SETTLES DOWN TO STEADY PRACTICE. West Point, N. Y„ Nov. IX—The regular afternoon drill has stopped for the winter and from now on the team will be able to practice e'very day. Speaking of the Cornell game, Lieu tenant W. D. Smith, football repre sentative In the weekly bulletin of the Athletic Association, says that while the army was defeated by Cornell, they gnlned much needed experience. Be sides. the game disclosed the fact that the army team has In Beavers and Greble, two splendid kickers. Cornell, JACK WADDELL IS BACK IN GOOD STANDING. Cambridge, Mass., Nov. 13.—The ad. nflnlstrutlve board of Harvnrd has re moved the > probation which hae en cumbered Jack Waddell, the crack half back. the entire season and he will bo In Saturday's game against Dartmouth. Secret practice, which will be the dally order the rest of the season, is bring held now and ,aereral new for mations and plays are being tried. The men are being driven hard and the coaches administer much hard criticism. HORRID GLOOM HANGS OVER PRINCETON, N. J. Princeton, N. J.. Nov. 13.—If the pes. slmlattc views of the coaches can be taken at thetr face value the football situation at Princeton Is enough to strike gloom Into the hearts of even the most loyal of the sons of old Nassau. After the secret practice when ques tioned as to the condition of the men nnd the nature - of the practice, the coaches had nothing but hard luck talet, to tell. A certain amount of this must be discounted, but the fact remains that the condition of the team at this time Is very questionable, as ahown by the game with Amherst GLEASON GETS NEXT PERMIT SAM LANGFORD BEAT JACKSON SMITH AFTER OTTO CRUMP Sun Francisco. Sot. 1*.—The De- ctmbtr prise fight permit It no longer wlll-o'-the-wlsp. The supervisors yesterday granted the coveted sanction to Jack Gleason and the Ketcholl- Thomas context now loom* up In red letter* on the puglllttlc calendar. There at tome opposition to the grunting of the tanctlon. Gleason says hr will put young Ketchfll and Joe Thomaa In the rlns at the baseball park on the night of December 12. The context will be handled under a huge canvax roof, which will encircle the grand viand on one tide. Ketchell, It lx undemtood. will train at Miller’*. CARLISLE 18 READY TO MEET MINNESOTA. New York. Nov. II.—On the eve of their departure for Minneapolis, where they will play the Mlnnexotu eleven, the Carlisle players probably had the most severe practice they have had during the season. Every line ff football activity which It Is possible f«> covet In two hours and half was Indulged In. Coach Warner developed the practice Into a scrim - mgr between the first und get on*I elevens. Ichmond team of the Virginia State League next year. Jake Wells, who haa been In Atlanta for a few days, has,closed the deal and the hustling mogul of the Macon club will do stunts In ths Virginia lean# next year. BILL SMITH HAS DRAFTED ANOTHER CATCHER FOR 'OS BUI Smith made another addition to hie baseball team of 1*08 Wednesday when he drafted Koopman. a catcher, from the Johnstown team of the Trl- Btate League. BUI haa been a bit shy on catchers UP to the present. The sale season cleaned him out, and while he had managed to round up a couple of new men, he wanted to be on the safe side. Bo he has been on the hunt for a catcher for some time. 1-ast week Bill tried to round up Owens, the lengthy young catcher of the Memphis team. Memphis haa four catchers besldra him, and It was learned here that Babb wanted to get rid of thla man. But when terms were wired for, Memphis club owners ducked and de cided suddenly that they would hold the man a while longer. Thla Tri-State man who ha. b«n dratted was reported as the racunu beat catcher In the league. New York got the beat one and BUI Smith fe»U that he has done well to round up M good a man. It I* not Improbable that Bill mar sign one more catcher.- provided hr ran always a good propoiltlon to havt plenty of catchers before the waaon opens, and Bill will be right there la 1901 with a husky bunch of backatop*. HELP! HELP! J. O'BRIEN WILL RETURN TO THE PRIZE RING Pittsburg. Nov. 13.—Philadelphia retire from the prtxe ring and that M Jack O'Brien and Jack Johnson are aa good aa matched for the heavy weight championship of the world. O'Brien, who Is appearing thla week at a local theater, on Monday announced that he had reron.ldered hla determination to Toledo to Train would meet either Burns or Johnxoa. 8am Fltxpatrick, Johnson'* manazrr. oiiiii I li*|i<ltl It A, *|Uil•*■<#•* m ~ j heard of O'Brien's defy and stoppw over In Pittsburg to accept the chal lenge. They will meet today and the papers. here, half of which will be with South ern League teams and the ram*'"?'’ with big league aggregations, clnrin- natl will train nt Anniston, Ala., «J* at Chattanooga reported, nnd It 1* probable thaj tJJJj Los Angeles, Cal., Nov. 13.—Sam Langford, the Boston negro, won his fourth battle over Young Peter Jack* non. hts prototype, so far as else Is (oncertted, last night, after one of the hardest fought contests ever witnessed In the local arena. The men fought a battle which would have.been unanimously accepted as a draw up to and Including the four th nth round, and there wan no second of time lust by either man—a steady min of blows being exchanged that would have put an ordinary fighter to sleep. After the fourteenth round, however, Langford began to steadily gain a slight advantage, retaining more strength than hie opponent, but the succeeding rounds up to and Including the twentieth, were contested so bit* terly by Young Peter that many of the ni>ertatoix were unable to select the heat man at the end. However, to those by the ringside. It was plain that Jackson was the weaker of the two and was being- forced to, hold on to sa\'e himself. Both tnen| Chattanooga, Tenn., Nor. 13.—Bill Smith Is after Otto Trump, a local pitcher who worked successfully In the City League last season. Crump has been watched by a number of man agers. Last season Bernie McCay tried to get him by w ire. .Cramp did not want to go to Mobile and wired Bernie to that effect. B. Me. came back at him. asking him for his terms. Crump wired back a targe sum, expecting tliai McCay would then pay no further at tention to him. To his surprise the Mobile manager accepted and told him to report. This Crump did not do. but he Is afraid that McCay will hold him next season If he decides to go into professional baseball. Crump Is a boiler-maker and says that he can earn 53 per day here, working for eight hours. Under those circumstances he doesn't care much about playing base ball. The kid Is a hard worker—either ptlchlng or making boilers—and noted for leading the simple life. DO IT NOW! ulsplay.il more of slugging ability than j smoke KE-M. medicated tobacco, cure *>rd holding u ,light for lencc, with Langford holding a allflu’for cold*, catarrh, uthma advantage. “rug aod cigar (lures. Special to The Georgian. Chattanooga, Tenn., Nor. It.—Man ager Bill Armour, of the Toledo Amer- two Ohio teams will play quite a num ber or* " “games with each other. Pari* ha* taken up le boxe American with a fourteenth century gallic ,tT ‘ lean Association League, hae ctoied a vor. and there Is no place of public ' .1,. .... - inn— sembly too sacred to house a so ree »» contract for the use of a local park aa ..ken up tlie training ground of the "Mud Hens" I fj'hSre andlhev bora learned *"l for next season. The Toledo team will M.Jeffrira ‘m* G a n , M Bures, arrive here March 15 and remain until After some' of our promoters pug"" 1 ' April 5. Manager Armour expects to: ti, |U e have sw-anned upon them >**» piny about twelve exhibition garnet, may be disenchanted. You may buy coffee which costs you a trifle less than Arbuckles* Ariosa Coffee, but you really pay more for it and do not get as good coffee. Don’t get confused—Arbuckles’ Ario»a Coffee is really the cheapest good coffee in the world. Ip sealed packages for your protection! AHBUCKLB BROS.. New York City. 1 I