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■I7IE .yfLANTA CKORGIAX AND NEWS. Wednesday, Xov. 20,1907.
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NO FOOTBALL GAME FOR ATLANTA NEXT SATURDAY
| EDITED BY
IP. H. WHITING
NOT NEWS, BUT VIEWS
By PERCY H. WHITING.
Now that the Qeorgia colleges are in the throes of reform,
enforced and otherwise, the views of Caspar Whitney, editor of
Outing and onff of America’s foremost fighters for pure nthletics,
on the letter and the spirit of the rules ought to'he of interest.
Here is what Mr. Whitney says:
The way to make and keep the athletics of a college pure
Is, first, to elect only the right kind of men to office In the asso
ciation and to captaincy, and having done this to devote special
time to Interpreting and exploiting the spirit of the rules, rather
than merely the letter.
I wish some college would hare the sportsmen's conviction
so strongly that it would rise up and say to the college world.
From this day we wipe off the face of our slate rules, save
only three:
(1) That a man must be a bona fide student of a university
to*be eligible to represent this college on the athletic field;
(1) That his class room record must be up to a certain
standard of excellence In order for him to be given the privilege
of trying for a place on any of the college athletic teams;
<S) That he must be an amateur.
The curse of college sports today Is Its multiplicity of
rules. These three rules I hare mentioned are sufficient to
oorer all cases. /
We all know what an amateur Is. The moment you begin
to define an amateur and say he may do this and not that and
may do the other thing, and so on and so on, you are pretty
sure to overlook somo one loophole which the vicious will In
stantly seise upon; because to go Into this elaborate definition
is to challenge the assault This could be accomplished, If the
presidents of the universities had really as much concern for the ,
college sport as they profess to hare.
Regularly, almost every year after the football season, cer
tain college presidents have a spasm of sporting reform and
forthwith they enter upon a harangue that has to do only with
the evils of the game.
Everybody knows thero are evils In football, as well ns
■ there are in every walk of life, even within the sacred pre
cincts of the church, but It doesn't appeal to our common sense
to damn the considerable percentage of good because of the
small percentage of evil, and the reason there isn’t more co
operation is that one loses patienco with the tiresome reform
ers, who hammer away at the evils, without making any effort
to stretch forth a helping hand, because of the good.
The presidents of the universities, It they would honestly
get together in a genuine sportsmanly spirit of helpfulness,
could clear the atmosphere in one meeting. They have the
power and they could agree that henceforth those three above
rules only would obtain; that the boys should be put on their
honor, just as they are in tho class room examinations, and
the word of each university be accepted as to the eligibility of
Its own teams. It's an unusually vicious boy that falls you If
you put him on his honor. ‘The collego which deceived under
such conditions would become an outcast without need of legis
lation.
I think tho great trouble lies In the fact that Immediately
a perplexing situation arises, presidents, officials, undergradu
ates and everybody, get together for more rule-making, instead
of getting together for the purpose of building up the right I
spirit All the rules in Christendom are not going to make
spirit and sport—not rule-making—is what college athletics in
these days require. CASPAR WHITNEY.
In commenting on this preachment the“Sewanee Tiger "says:
The S. I. A. A. will meet early in December at Clemson Col
lege, S. C„ and we take this opportunity to call the attention
of all the colleges and universities which composo the associa
tion to Mr. Caspar Whitney's article on college athletics.
Tho plan proposed by Mr. Whitney scarcely admits of criti
cism. for there Is no better way to put an etld to the ceaseless
squabbling about eligibility of players than to place the actual
control of the athletics of a college In the hands of a student
honor committee, acting with faculty advisors.
The honor system originated and flourishes in the South.
Let the Southern university men Instruct their delegates to the
annual meeting of the association to vote for this plan for put
ting American university athletics in a more honorable position.
Collego athletics on the honor system might work.
This system has proved its worth in college examination
rooms. The writer has seen the spy system of examinations in
operation at Harvard and the honor system at Vanderbilt and it
is his judgment that there was leas cheating under the latter
than the formor.
If the honor system was ever given a trial in college athlet
ics the writer does not know it.
He does feel that it could not possibly work any worse than
tho present one.
He is of the opinion that, under a system where they were
put on their honor, Qeorgia men would not have tolerated “ring
ers” on the team; that Tech men would have been so quick to in
vestigate the rumors Against her men that tho matter would have
been settled a week after college opened. He does not believe
that under an honor system Sewanee would have stood for Shipp
and that under the working of an honor rule Vanderbilt would
have dropped Prank Wynne off her football teams even quicker
than she did.
Maybe an honor system would not work, but it looks to be
worth a trial.
If it came to’ a choice between it and the must-be-in-college,
onc-year-beforo-you-play-on-nny-team rule we would vote for the
former.
Y. M. C. A. WILL ORGANIZE
BASKET BALL LEAGUE
The first stsps toward the organisa
tion of the Y. M. C. A. Basketball
League were taken Tuesday night at a
meeting held in the Y. M. C. A. gym
nasium. Definite plans hare not yet
been made, but It Is practically certain
that a strong league will be organ
ised.
Basketball has been popular at the
association since Its first Introduction
a number of years ago, and It has been
the custom for some years to hare a
league composed entirely of associa
tion members.
The most successful league to date
was that of last season.
Some of the old players are gone
this year, but a sufficient number of
men are In the association this year
to Insure a league equally as fast and
successful as any In the past.
Any member of the association, pos
sessing the physical qualifications to
play the game, may play, provided he
attends the regular gymnasium classes.
''PHONY” FOOTBALL TICKETS
FOUND BY PORTLAND POLICE
HERE’S A BUNCH OF FAMOUS PREP PERFORMERS
IMHIIMIIMIHI
SMITH. TAYLOR. G. M. A. TEAM. WHITLEY. MOORE.
Smith plays quarterback for tho Gordon team and put up the most brilliant game shown by any prop player in Atlanta this year. With a little more weight he would
team in the south.
Taylor plays right end for the G. M. A. team. He was snapped while making a forward pass.
The members of the G. M. A. team shown in the picture are (top row) Colley, Alford, Pendleton, Clark, Schingler, Beard; (middlebrow), Taylor, French, Whitley,
Tarver; (bottom row) Johnston, Brown, Bartleson, May.
make any
Sparkman,
Captain Whitley la shown kicking goal. He is one of the stars of the G. M. A. team.
Moore is the fullback of the Gordon team. He has shown up well this year.
THIS MOBILE SQUABBLE IS
GETTING VERY COMPLICATED
NO GAME HERE SATURDAY,
BUT ONE THANKSGIVING DAY
The Situation as Seen by
a Man Who Was On
the Spot.
Cambridge, Maas., Nov. 10.—Boston
aad Cambridge, within a day or two,
have been flooded with bogus tickets
to the Yale-Harvard game. Except for
the timely dlacovery of the counter-
felten* plot by the police of Portland,
serious complications might
have resulted. Harvard's management
today sent a representative to Portland
to aid In prosecuting William Leigh
ton, alias Brooks, and Fred Patrick, an
engraver, who was arrested after a
block of boxwood waa discovered bear
ing a draft of_a Harvard-Yale ticket.
This block waa found In Patrick's room.
WHY, CAN IT BEf
Cambridge, Maes., Nov. JO.—Harvard
has rallied. The crimson team has
•hown big Improvement under stren
uous practice and one of the biggest
surprises of the season may be sprung
on Yale Saturday when Etl’e sons meet
Harvard. The Cambridge team has
been put through stiff work and dis
plays good team play, particularly as
regards Interference.
All the coaches are present to take a
hand In the breaking throogh, punting,
storting and drilling of Individuals.
8peclnt to The Georgian.
Mobile. Ala., Nov. 20.—When the
question of letting Mobile enter the
Southern League was first agitated
last summer but few people foresaw
the squabble which Is now attendant
on the attempt of the Alabama club
owners to protect themselves from the
would-be financiers of the Cotton
States League.
evident, from various reports
sent out from time to time, that tho
aim of the Cotton States moguls Is to
force Mobile to pay 12,600 for her
freedom. Thfl Cotton States League
would willingly relinquish Its claim to
the Mobile territory If they could there
by be enriched In the sum of 12,600.
8o the whole controversy seems to be
hinged on the deslrs of tho Cptton
States' League to get the coveted 12,600.
There has been, ever since Mobile
became a member of the lengue, a feel
ing among the other league members
that Mobile should be put out. In
fact, attempts have been made to se
cure that end, but they were always
unsuccessful. As a member of the
Cotton States League Mobile has been
a money-maker. Mobile has also con
tributed more to the support of the
league than any other town. In fact,
the contribution bn the pert of the Mo
bile club the past season was twice us
much as any other club. Not another
club In the Cotton States League made
money last season.
The visiting clubs In the league re
ceived HO per day as thalr sharo of tho
gate receipts, rain or shine, small at
tendance or large. The balance of the
:o Into the coffers of the home
traveling, to lose money. When a
was at home and the attendance
good there would he a balance each
day on the right aide of the ledger, tout
with the exception of Mobile the home
attendance waa not large enough In any
of the other tawna to offaet the loaa of
the rood trlpa.
Now a change la proposed. The
BIG SIMS TO BE STORM CENTER IN
INVESTIGATION OF TECH FOOTBALL
It Is understood In Atlanta that the |
fight to sustain the suspension of the
Georgia School of Technology football i
team is now centering around SJms, the j
ex-Dahlonega player.
It Is reported that a number of ad- •
dltlonal affidavits In connection with !
his case have been filed and the Tech i
authorities, as soon as they are sure
upon this point, will demand to see 1
them, in order to prepare their de- i
fense.
It Is the gossip about town that the!
charges against the other members of \
the Tech team will not be pressed. You ;
can take this as a rumor, und for:
what It Is worth. Nothing definite has '
been stated.
Stnis will be the Tech .storm center
on Saturday morning when the execu
tive committee of the S. I. A. A. meets.
That much Is certain.
The Sims case, as stated by the,
friends of Tech, Is as follows: Sims,
Wrestler “Gets
His”in Chaingang
Special to The Georgian.
Spartanburg. 8. C., Nov. 20.—The
wrestling match between "Kid” Pat
terson and Joe Wonnlck is off, as Pat
terson Is serving a sixty-day sentence
on the city ch&lnganrf, he having been
convicted in tho police court Monday
morning on the charge of larceny.
f who Is a man of some means, worked
■ last summer In Atlanta. He was laid
off shortly before college opened nnd
put In some of hls spare time visiting
Tech, Mercer and Georgia, with a view
of going to the one of the three col
leges he liked best. He last visited
Georgia. While there he wns seen by a
Tech supporter and was offered some
| Inducement to go to Tech,
Here the stories of the Tech friends
.and the Tech enemies separate. The
> Techsters say that Inducements were
legitimate, such as the Job with Dan
iel Pros. The antl-Teohs say that the
i inducement was not legitimate.
The public can take their choice as
! to an opinion until Saturday, at which
time the evidence In the case will be
Introduced.
The Piedmont announces that the
assembly hall has been reserved for
the hearing and if It Is open to tho
public you can take It from us that
there will be a. standing-room-only
crowd.
Piedmont Bowlers
Defeat Orioles
The Piedmont bowling team defeated
the Orioles Tuesday night on the Geo.
W. Case alleys, by the close score of
j 2l f pins.
These two teams are bowling a se
ries of nine games nnd will bowl three
games at each meet.
The next games to be bowled Thurs
day night. These teams are composed
of good bmvlers and are working hard
to get In good condition.
EMORY TEAMS WOULD BE GLAD TO
PLAY IN ATLANTA THANKSGIVING DAY
Special to Tho Georxlan.
club owner*of Meridian. Vicksburg. ,,; mory College , Oxford. Go.. Nov. 20.
jackxon, Gulfport and Columbus want ” . nmark . ye „.
to divide the fate recelpta—60 per cent
to the vlaltlnr club and a like per cent
to tho home organisation. Such an
arrangement would work beautifully
for every club that came to Mobile, but
when Mobile went to other towna ahe
would rarely get over the HO guaran
tee money. Under ouch an arrangement
Mobile would be practically eupportlng
the league and would be paying out
money at home and when abroad.
It woo the fear that they were to be
thrown out of the league that caused
the Mobile mogula firet to aeek admls-
alon to the Southern League. If the
Cotton Btatea League thought that Mo
bile would be without a chance to get
Into another league, they would vote
to cancel their franchise at the very
next meeting, but knowing that Mobile
can get Into the Southern and that the
local ownera will never consent to a
division of the gate receipts on such a
basts as proposed, the would-be finan
ciers have decided to demand 12,600
before they will consent to give up this
territory to the Southern League. But.
to the observing man In the branches
of the tree. It appears that the local
magnates have the whip hand In the
light nnd cku fun', the Cotton States
to modify their demands.
Secretary Colsaon, of the local or
ganization. says positively there will
be no Cotton States League ball In
Mobile In 1606. and that if the South-
ue Is kept out there will be
iut Independent bull played In
this city. In the event that the Cot
ton States League place* a club In
Mobile, and their right to do so Is not
questioned, they would be forced to
find a location and build a park, as f>r.
Inge nnd hls associates have control of
the Monroe Park ball grounds for next
season. To secure grounds within a
reasonable distance of the city, erect
stands and other necessities would re
quire an outlay on the part of the Cot
ton States League of fully 620.000. And
where la any one connected with the
Cotton Slates League going to get
620,000 when there was not a club In
the learue last season. Mobile except
ed, that could raise money enough to
buy twelve mileage books at 640 per
book? Quite a difference between 620.-
000 and 64SO. And from the antl-Cot
The sporting editor*# remarks In yes
Lrday afternoon’s Georgian relative to
a Thanksgiving Day game in Atlanta
between a couple of Emory class teams
la being widely commented on by Em
ory students. Some take It os a joking
Insinuation that Atlantans should en
joy a scrub game on Thanksgiving Day
In view of the fact that the 8. L A. A.
can furnish nothing better, but the
vast majority take It seriously and are
anxious that such a game should be
played. _
Of course Emory Is not In the S. 1.
A. A. and Is not even allowed to de
fect a prep team occasionally; but the
athletic material, here Is up to the
stnndard and the class games are far
■ rom being devoid of Interest. As an
Illustration of the material Emory
turns out. take Billy Wilson, of Tech,
and Tom Fleming, who Is at present
one of Georgia’s best gridiron men.
So enthusiasts here argue why not
give Emory a chance on Thankegivlng
tc show the public what kind of games
are played here every week?
The Juniors and sophomores art the
most evenly matched teams in college.
Twice this season they have clashed
and each Rattle has ended In a 0 to 0
score. Why not have these two teams
play off the tie In Atlanta? Or why
not select one eleven from the upper
ar.d one from the under classmen for
the holiday contest?
The game is probably looked on
a huge joke and will result In nothing,
but the Emory student body Is thor
oughly nrouxed and Is anxious to adopt
Mr. Whiting’s suggestion. It Is cer
tain that If at the meeting of the S. I.
A. A. executive committee next Sat
urday Tech Is not reinstated an Emory
game will be an excellent, substitute
for the onq which scheduled to take
place on the 28th.
(Note—Not a bad Idea, either. The
ball played by the Emory teams is aald
to be high class.—Sporting Ed.)
PRESIDENT MATHES0N STATES HIS SIDE
President Matheson's statement In
regard to the presept athletic muddle,
as far as Tech Is concerned, will be
found below:
"A* the executive committee of the
Southern Intercollegiate Athletic As
sociation will meet the latter part of
thltf week to Investigate and decide
these matters, of course It Is not In
order for me to make statements rela
tive to same. In view of certain per-
States officers seem to think that
draft Is legal, and. therefore, demand
the hold-up price.
The situation Is In a tangle, it Is
true, and It Is rather hard to determine
the outcome, but there Is one thing that
la as certain as the sun rises and sets—
Mobile has seen It* Iasi game of l-'otton
Stales League baseball Will the
fffi . Southern League be able to play In Mo-
ton States League sentiment among the I bite next season? Is another perplexing
local fans It seems improbable that the I question, and ons that time alone can
organization could Interest that amount' answer. ,
of capital to finance a club In Mobile.
It is hard to understand where the
Cotton State* League gets the idea that
62.500 should be paid by Mobile for her
release. According to the law of base
ball, the Southern League can not draft
Cotton States territory; but the Cotton Chicago University suggested* to me
sonal Items which have been publish
ed, however, I think It Just that a brief
statement should bs mode Immediate
ly. When the committee meet* I shall
Insist upon every detail being made
clear. It is but Just to state that during
my Incumbency I have made diligent
effort to assist Indigent and deserving
student* to earn honest money to as
sist In defraying their expense* while
at school. Dr. Butler, president of the
Columbia University, employs a hlgh-
snlaried official whose sole duty It Is
to secure remunerative work for stu
dents. When I was taking graduate
work there four years ago It was esti
mated that over 60 per cent of the
6.000 students were either paying their
way In part or whole through the uni
versity by their efforts. This expe
rience in connection with others at
establishing an employment bureau
here, necessarily on a smalt scale. At
present, for Instance. 1 know of sixteen
students of small means who are pay
ing their way through Tech by their
personal efforts. It happens that not
one of the sixteen is on any athletic
team. Along the line of our efforts,
when I was asked at the beginning of
the term If there would be' any objec
tion to a student on the football team
securing an agency at Tech for Daniel
Bros., of Atlanta, said atudent to re
ceive a commission on sales for bona,
fide services to be rendered, I replied
that I could see no objection to such a
plan. I was positively Informed also
that this plan was in operation In the
case of a football man each at Vander
bilt and Sewanee universities, and was
approved by the officials of those in
stitutions. As for some eight years we
allowed students to pay their way
through school by acting as agents for
the various book companies from whom
we purchased text-books, and as the
plan had only been commended and
never criticised, I felt further justified
in my opinion. >
"To be absolutely safe, however,
when Professor Holmes, vice president
of the 8. I. A. A., was In my office
shortly after the plan was suggested,
I submitted It to him. and he gave It
his entire approval. This was my sole
connection with the matter In hand.
The atudent referred to was shortly
afterwards taken sick, and now conva
lescent at hls home. Some few of the
card* provided by Daniel Bros, for him
had been distributed, so I was Inform
ed on Sunday last, though I knew ab
solutely nothing of ihe matter until
that time. Any of the cards secured
from the etore In question which did
not bear the signature of our student
were entirely worthless, and would not
be honored If presented for payment
at Daniel Bros.’ store."
Such Is the Prediction of the
Local Tech Football
Rooters.
Because there Is no chance that the
executive committee of the S. I. A
will be able to clean up the case against
Tech by noon on Saturday, It Is certain
that the Tech-Mercer game will not
be played Saturday ax scheduled.
It Is not unlikely that Mercer and
Clemson will play that day In Ma
con. They are both short a game
result of the suspension of Tech and
Georgia, nnd will try to make It up by
a clash In Mercer's home town.
Both the Georgia and Tech teams am
still at practice. It Is believed that the
suspension of one or both of the teams
will be iarsed when the executive com
ndttee meets here Saturday, and both
teams are doing everything possible to
be prepared for Thanksgiving Day
struggles.
Tho Tech athletic nuthorltle
very positive In their statement that
they will be cleared of all charges made
against them. It Is believed here that
Tech will be back In good standing In
time to play Clemaon Thanksgiving
Day.
But lr is likely to be a badly crippled
team that lines up.
Exactly five regular first team men
were out for practice Tuesday after
noon. They were Hill, Henderson,
Smith; Brown and Fitzsimmons. Soma
of the rest of the wreck* of November
16 were on the field and watching the
play.
"Chip" Robert waa also on hand and
had an eye on the work, though he did
not get In the scrlmmuge. Unlee* he
gets a set-back he will be able to play
Thanksgiving Day. Robert hopes to
bo In the game by then. Davie Is hob
bling around fairly well on hls bad
ankle and threatens to bo In shape In
a few days. About the rest of them
there Is considerable doubt.
Everybody here Is awaiting with In
terest the meeting of the S. I. A. A. on
Saturday. Local newspaper men will
probably be barred from the hearing,
but The Georgian will attempt to give
Jhe fight by rounds.
YALE WILL USE TRICKS.
New Haven, Conn., Nov. 20.—Yal»
will depend on trick football to win
from Harvard Saturday. The team hat
had no hard work since the game with
Prlncjton, and signal practice has been
poetponed for a few days. However,
the 'varsity Is scheduled for today and
this will be tho only scrimmage of the
week. The squad departs tomorrow
noon for Auburndale, near Cambridge.
The work today will be aimed at de
veloping the defenalve power of the
eleven and the acruba will dash Har
vard formation at them.
Today the players visit Yale field for
the last time this year, nnd the scrubs
will burn their bandages, trapping*
and odd bits ot uniform In the pltcur-
e&que ceremony annually held as they
dunce around the bonfire.
A CHALLENGE.
To Sporting Editor Atlanta Georgian:
I am now back In Atlanta after a
trip to Memphis, and am ready to meet
any one between the weights of 111
and HO pounds—BUly Slim, Khl Kelly
or Joe Trent. Prefer the meeting tj
take place at once. I am under tns
direct management of Jack Foy,
Atlanta welterweight. Yours.
EDDIE HAYES,
Champion Featherweight of the South.
Atlanta, Nov. 18, 1907.
MERCER SCRUBS WIN.
Special to The Georgian.
Mllledgevllle, Ga., Nov. 20.—G. M. A
and Mercer Scrubs met on the l°e*J
gridiron here Monday In a well played
game of football, Mercer Scrubs wh^
■ling by one touchdown. Score 5 m ■
Although outweighed by roe*'
pounds, the O. M. A. team he d tww
heavy opponents at every point
kept the ball In the Scrubs’ terrltofT
throughout the greater part of hot*
halves.
STEIN KNOCKED OUT.
Reading, Pa.. Nov. 20.—Before »
crowd that packed the Natatorluni h*
to the limit. Wlllla Fitzgerald, iw
fighting harp, knocked out Kid F' elB j 1
Philadelphia. In th* sixth round a •
bout scheduled for ten rounds.