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THE ATLANTA GEORGIAN AND NEWS. THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 21,1907. SPORTING PAGE S. I. A. A. EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETS ON PRIDAY EDITED BY | P.H.. WHITING I NOT NEWS, BUT VIEWS By PERCY H. WHITING. If the stormincss of the storm varies in a direct ratio with the calmness of the calm that precedes it, then there is going to he the very dickens of a time here Friday morning when the ex ecutive committee of the S. I. A. A. meets to take action on the suspension of Tech and Georgia. Right now the calm is that of the sphinx, or the frozen .north, or Fairbanks—something vast and cold and still. Be not deceived, though. The coming hearing is going to be warm to the very limits of heat and the facts and figures that will come out will be startling. While the calm is still “on” it might not be a foolish idea to have another look at those eligibility rules suggested by Caspar Whitney. Here they are again: (1) That a man must be a bona fide student of a university to be eligiblo to represent his college on the athletic field. (2) That his class room reoord must be up to a certain stand ard of excellence in order for him to be given the privilege of trying for a place on any of the college athletic teams. (3) That he must be an amateur. The more you look at them the better you like them. •Think how easy it would be to know the rules and enforce them. Just give a printed slip containing them to every man in every college, mark it “HONOR SYSTEM” in bright red let- tors and the trick is turned. With such rules, backed up by the honor system, ovory man in every S. I. A. A. college would be, in effect, a district vice president. There would be no questions requiring interpretation of those rules. It is easy enough to know whether a man is a bona fide student or not. His class room records will show where he stands. And his friends are bound to be in a position to tell whether or not he is an amateur. The sport world of America needs a little education over this word “amateur” as applied to college sport—in fact, to all sport. The undersized dictionary by which the sporting editor set tles such questions of spelling ns he docs not "put up” to tho lin otype operators and the proof-reader, defines nn amateur as “a person attached to a pursuit . . . from taste . , . with out pursuing it professionally.” The S. I. A. A. does not give a definition of nn amateur. It does tell, however, what a professional’is. The definition follows: “A professional athlete is a man who has at any time received directly or indirectly money or any other consideration to play on a team or for his athletic services as conch, trainer, athletic or gymnasium instructor or who has competed for a money prize or a portion of the gate money in any contest or who has competed for any prize against a professional.” Tho point is that n man who hns gone into college sport for money is a professional. The man who goes into it for the love of it, or for his physical improvement or for tho love of his alma mater is an amateur. In n measure tho S. I. A. A. has an honor system in force at present. But it seems that the men are not sufficiently put upon their honor. To make nn honor x- stem work out properly you (have to have it not only in ope. ion but you must have every man under it understand that he is upon his honor and not being watched. An honor system would work out very well in the South. If the student bodies of the various colleges were put on their hon or to keep athletics clean, on a basis of some such rules as those proposed, they would bo kept clean. Nobody who has been to college doubts that every flagrant case of “ringing” that was ever pulled off in any college was worked with tho knowledgo of most of the students. It can not well be otherwise. A college community is a great big gos siping family, and it does not take the news long to spread. Maybe we should not have clean nthleties under nn honor system. Certainly we have not had consistently clean athletics under a system of multitudinous rules, district vice presidents, faculty nenr-supervision and lively suspicion of every eollcgo by every other college. When this “crool” war is over and the S. I. A. A. executive committee has promulgated its rulings and those Thanksgiving Day games have been played it is up to the athletic enthusiasts of the state of Georgia to get together and see if something can not be done to prevent a repetition of such a yenr in colleeg ath letics as this last one has been. HERE IS A NOTED INDIAN FOOTBALL PLAYER PUGILISTIC HALL OF FAME STIRS UP BIG ARGUMENT ■pedal to Tho Georgian. Hattiesburg, Ml»», Nov. *1.—Out In San Francisco the fighting Impresa rios have founded what they call a pu gilistic hall of fame, and their nomina tions have not met with universal ap proval. Messrs. Colfroth et al. chose those who are to be honored, and their list, or rather the fact that they have overlooked some great fighters, Is caus ing considerable comment among fol lowers of the squared circle. "That’s a great list, of course," said Charles Rich, of this city, who backed Jake Kllraln and was responsible for the fight that took place between him and John L Sullivan, “but they have left out some better men than they put In. Everybody will admit that when they left out John L they omit ted the greatest real fighter America has ever known. "Not because I backed him, but be cause I knew him, and know that he has entered the ring when he knew he would be beaten and fought like a tiger against awful odds, I believe that Kllraln was the gamest fighter that ever entered the ring. Even after It was plain that he had lost, he would not let me throw up the sponge. He fought until he was unable to put up his hands. "In my opinion. Kid McCoy Is the cleverest fighter that ever lived. He made a success too early. He lost his head, and had a poor manager after his triumphs In South Africa, and went the pace that will knock out any fight er. Everything considered. I think Joe Choynakt was the hardest nut for the average pugilist to crack. But Charley Mitchell was the smartest fighter I ever knew. Why? Because he couldn't win fights, but he could get the money, and he hung on to it. “No, with the exception of Jeffries, Corbett, Choynskl and Cans, they are all broke. Mr. Kllraln owns a fine residence In Baltimore, but that Is all he has got, except a good salary as Sul livan’s sparring partner. Even George Dixon, once owning a great deal of valuable real estate. Is without a dollar today. No. I think some of the men I have mentioned ought to go In that hall of fame.” Those selected by Promoter Coffroth for his "temple,” where they will ap pear In ltfe-slxe marble statues, are Jeffries, Corbett. Fltaslmmons, Demp sey. Lavlgne, Young Mltcheli, Dixon. Walcott, Gans and Peter Jackson, six white and four black men. SOME FEW FACTS ABOUT SOUTHERN FOOTBALL SEASON Largest Score—SO scored by Miss. A. & M. on S. W. B. L\ Scored Most Point*—Sewnnee. IIS. Scored Least Points—Mississippi S. Most Points Scored on—Mississippi, ISO. Least Points Scored on—Sewnnee and Tennessee, 10 each. Rough Ranking of First Twelve Teams of 8. I. A. A.—Vanderbilt, Sewnnee, Auburn. Tech, Tennessee, Mist. A. A M., Clemson, Georgia. Ala- "^mo^Mercer. Mississippi, 8. W. P. U ISieSHOMSSSHOOSHMSI 1© This gent is Lubo, the captain of the Carlisle team. He la a tireless, aggressive, hard-muscled, hardened Individual and plays rattling good football. iMIMSMOHHSHI !•••••••••••••••••< • HMHSSISHSSIH1I SMILING JOHN LANDS AGAIN Malarkey Signed to Succeed Perry Lipe on Macon Team. PRACTICING STEADILY AT TECH; HARD LUCK YEAR MAY END WELL John Mallarkey, he of the smiling countenance and the chesty stride, will lead the Macon forces next year. The ex-Montgomery mogul has been secured to succeed Perry Llpe, and will at once begin work at gottlng his team together. Mullarkey proved a good manager last year, though an unlucky one, and ought-to be able to hold his end up In the Sally League. Ae a pitcher, he ranked among the best In tho South last year, and he will be among the topnotchere In the South Atlantic. GEORGIA’S COACH. Out at Tech field the practice Is go ing fnrwntd steadily iheee days for the Thanksgiving game against Clemson, end a serene confidence Is expressed that the Yellow Jackets will be back In good standing In time for that bat tle. The weather this week has been any thing but favorable for football work. The heavy ground, rainy atmosphere and extreme heat have combined to make hard work almost out of the question. But football practice Is going on and Tech hopes to close a hard luck sea son by defeating her stout rival, the Clemson team. The hard-luck howl does not get anybody anything but there Is no doubting but that Tech has had mure than her fair share of misfortune this year. Thors Is small use In disinterring any of the hopes of the defunct past, hut a month before the season opened It looked as though Tech were going to have a team. Most of the aggregation of colts which performed so gamely In 1906 was sure to return. In addition the Tech authorities were counting nn Cofer, n ighty halfback of the Soldlei- team; Sims, the hefty player from Dahlone- ga; llcnry Williams, the speedy back from Gordon Institute, and so many other good men that the fear of a sur plus of material was felt. One by one most of the stars twinkled icebly a couple of times and then set, quietly but permanently. Cofer couldn’t get In college, Sims went down with typhoid, Williams went to Vanderbilt nnd several other real wonders who were expected never even showed up for work. The line, from tackle to tackle, did not suffer much from the time the Heason opened, chough Clyde Brown broke his hand nnd was out of a gamo or two. Hill has played well, but the faculty has been on his trail several times and things have looked rretty leary. How ever, Coach Helsman hns had a lot of good ends to choose from and has not worried much. The other end at the first of the rea son was Chip Robert, a brilliant play er, with plenty of speed, a marvelously good head and grit to born. Robert played a brilliant game until the first down In the Georgia game. Then Chip went out with a twisted elbow Joint. His place was filled In by Jones, a steudy player, but no match for Rob ert. In 1906 Robert did the quarterback stunt. But this year Coach Helsman felt that he was more needed ns an end nnd therefore he made a quarter back out of Buchanan. And a good Job It was, too. “Buck” ran the team well and proved the best man at catch- ink punts that Tech field has ever seen. "Buck,” like Robert, lasted to the Georgia game. Then he dlsloteated a knee Joint and retired. In his place was put "Kid” Hightower, a gritty chap and a good quarterback. With a bit more weight he would be an all- Southern man sure. There has not been much change nt the halfback position, compared with some of the othere. But Fltxelmmone, cne half, was forever getting the front of his face kicked in. And Sweet, tho' other, had the misfortune to get his chest stove In. and In tho Vanderbilt game he was handed a dislocated shoulder. The fullback position hoe been the prize hard luck Job. One man after an. ether tried It and passed on. Adamson, .Sweet, Sims, Luck and Johnson all had a trial at It. Davis Is to be the next victim. It has been a season of sad disap pointments, but there Is a chance that the finish may prove a llttlo blighter than It promised to be a month ago. Tho thing that will bring cheer to the local camp wll be the defeat of Clemson, and right now that looms up as a decided possibility. And If that trick Is turned Tech hackers will be satisfied. “BUGS” ISN’T DEAD Story to That Effect Is Only Another “Raymond Hoax.” Is "Bugs” Raymond dead? Probably not. A report came out of Chicago Mon- day night'that the ex-Sally League pitcher had been run over by a trol ley car nnd killed. The dispatch gave some of the grew, some details. Here they are: Chicago, Nov. 19.—Albert Raymond, cne of the promising young pitchers of the St. Louie National League ball club, lies dead In St. Elizabeth's Hos pital of this city as a result of a street car accident late Monday night. Ray mond was crossing North avenue at Elston avenue Just as an Elston avenue car struck him .md ground him under the wheels. Hid body was badly mangled, one r.rm and one leg as well as several rlbe telng broken end Internal Injuries also being evident. He was taken to St. Elizabeth Hospital, but he died quickly without regaining consciousness. But now comes another dlspatoh which seems to indicate that the flrit story was another "Bugs" hoax. Here Is the dope: Chicago. Nov. t9.—The report In clr. culatlon here last night, and gener ally published In the morning papers, that "Bugs” Raymond, a member of thi St. Louis Cardinals' pitching corps, had been run over and killed by nn Elston avenue car when he was crossing North avenue at Elston avenue, may not be tiue. It was said that he was removed to St. Elizabeth Hospital, where he died without regaining consciousness. The hospital authorities stated at noon that no such man had been taken there dur ing the night or at any other time. A couple of weeks ago "Bugs" Ray. mend was reported to have been thrown Into the river and drowned. Tho "story" proved to bo a fake. It is now thought that the report of Raymond being run over and killed by a car Inst night Is also incorrect. GORDON INSTITUTE HAS A KICK COMING To Sporting Editor Atlanta Georgian: The Gordon football team returned homo from Macon a sadder but wiser crew Sunday morning, nfter encoun tering orte of the boldest hold-ups ever witnessed on a civilised football field. I have seen a great many athletic contests on many different fields, but never before have I witnessed such unfair treatment as was accorded the Gordon team by the referee and umpire In Macon Saturday. Time and again they were penalised when even the Mercer rooters could see no foul they had committed, while the Mercer team was allowed the prlvl. lege of lining up behind Gordon's line of scrimmage without any protest from the officials In charge. Again I repeat, that such flagrant disregard of the rules of the game and such aibltrary officials have never before come to my attention. Nor can I believe that the Mercer student body nnd coach are responsible, for on sev eral occasions Coach Schenker, be It said to his credit, had the referee right very gross wrongs against Gordon. It was simply a case of two men unaccustomed to the duties they were attempting to perform. Such violations of the rules by the ofllclals as the ones below mentioned were frequent: Gordon kicks and the ball touches a Gordon player 16 or 10 yards in ad vance of the spot where the ball was put In play before touching the ground: the referee bursts Into the game with, "Oh, yes, I saw you that time;” brings the ball bark to the spot where It was put In play and penalises Gordon 15 yards for touching the ball before a Mercer man touched It or It had hit the ground. Again, Mercer punts, but the kick Is low and hits one of Mercer's forwards before a Gordon player touches it or the ball hlta the ground. Referee, "Mer cer's ball, first down, ten yards to gain.” In vain Captain Prout would try to protest, and asked the referee to please look up the rule on the point, but was Invariably met with the ad monition, ‘‘Go on and play ball.” On the third down, Mercer, If they had not gained their distance, which we will say here they never did at all In the first half and only four or five time* in the second, would drop the ball and then fall on It before any other player could get to it. The referee would then give Mercer the ball, with first down, saying the ball had been fumbled. Many other violations of the rule* were In evidence and alweya worked against Gordon. While sitting l« the lobby of the Lanier at Macon 1 heard several travel ing men who had witnessed the game remarking on the very unfair treat- meat the “little fellows,”.a* they des ignated Gordon, had received. The same remarks were heard while riding In on the car and came from men who seemed to have been disinterested, ex cept that they wanted to see a fair deal. But If anywhere the feeling was abroad that Gordon had received a raw deal. It W’aa on Mercer campus aqd here It was so Intense you could feel It. We believe that a team losing should take l|s medicine, but a team losing as Gordon did Saturday deserves that the truth be known. A SPECTATOR. Bamesvllle, Ga., Nov. 16. 1907. TECH NOT TO PLAY MERCER Mercer and Tech will not play Sat urday. If the executive committee of the S. I. A. A. should, at the meeting Friday, take up the Tech case first, dispose of It and reinstate the local team It might be possible to pull off the Mercer- Tech game Saturday. But there will be nothing doing Neither team nor the public Is anx ious for that gome and it le off for sure. SOUTHERN FOOTBALL SCORES OF 1907 ALABAMA- I 12 Tech rf HOWARD- I MI8H. A. * M.- 17 Maryville « 12 <i«n:«nu 0 6 8. \\. li. U r J * 8. W. P, U 3) UlsusslDld Mercer e, 0 Ai htim ...a 4 Sewnnee SI 6 Alabama 61 S Ml«» A. A M. ..13 ? 59 Tntnlrt AttKAXMAM— 0 Haskell 23 Drurr BOCOCK. « st. IsonU Here fa the Georgetown player ,? JHf* ' who took George Whitney's place. ,j £V. V. YALE LEAVES HOME. New Haven. Nov. 21.—The Yale team g A* C. will leave here thin afternoon for Au- 2 U.lIfJiru bumdale. Mo**., where it will remain S SoSon* until the Harvard game. The coaches < H.-wnnee” expect a hardship with Harvard. >209 Total* .... .. M CLEMSON— —I 5 «Minion N2i Maryville ... 12 Howard ... mh. w. b. u. 75 Mercer o 6 Drury .. 11 L 8. U. 4 TeaneiMee U ...77 till Total* » . M Kit*'KU— 0 Tennessee 4 6 florid* M15 North Carolina.. 6 c Heorjtta ...... • Auburn 12 12 Howard « Davidson ........19) o Auburn r. _ H 5 Gordon ....... ,.12148 Total* .....22 — .11 GKOUGIA- a 29 Total* -|S7 Dabloiiega • MISSISSIITI- lennetace 15 a Alabama Alabama 4 M.-re-r 6 g $!o KtntH Nor. ..121 65 Mis*ix*tpi>i o i D Alnlwtai* 0 0 Sewnnee 651 12 Virginia 0 [ 6 Tech V 0 Vanderbilt M M Tech 0 Mf 0 L. *4. U <S| 16 Georgia •{195 Total* .... HKI\*ANEE- [ 23 Mooney o I » piss A. A M. .. c ..47 t Totals ..lfl0j23S Total* TECII- 51 Gordon .......... 0 40 Kentucky 0 70 Dahlonega ....... 0 6 Tennesaec 4 ® Roae Poly 10 143 Totals TENNESSEE— 21 T. M. C. 15 Georgia ...* 4 Teeb 4 Clemson 36 Mrayvllle 57 l\ of Chat. . 0 Kentucky .... VANDERBILT- TO HOLD MEETING FRIDAY S. I. A. A. Executive Com mittee Gets Together Then. The meeting of the executive com mittee of the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association will be held In the assembly room of .the Piedmont Hotel Friday morning, beginning at 10 o’clock. The first date set was Saturday, but this has been shoved back to Friday, perhapa because It will be practically Impossible to finish the Investigation la one day. The members of the executive com mittee of the S. I. A. A. are: Dr. W. L Dudley, Vanderbilt University; W. M. Riggs, Clemson College; E. T. Holmes, Mercer University; Thomas B. Boyd, Louisiana State University, and B. L Wiggins, University of the South (8e- wanee). Presumably all five will -be present. Certainly Dr. Dudley, Professor Riggs and Professor Holmes will be In At lanta for the excitement, and very probably Vice Chancellor Wiggins, of ■Sewnnee, will be on hand also. As Pro fessor Boyd Is not In the argument, hs may ‘'duck" the game. Just what the order (jf business will be Is a decidedly uncertain matter. As Georgia was suspended first, prob ably her case will be the first one heard. The defense has not been an nounced, but It Is understood that, to the charge of using “ringers" on tt» Georgia team, a plea of “guilty "o' 1 extenuating blrcumstances" will be en tered. It t* stated that the Georgia men will admit that Ineligible men were played on the team, but will deny that the athletic director, any members of the faculty or anybody In power save the coach knew anything about the affair. Tech's defense will be a complete d«- nlal of all Irregularities and an attempt will be made to dlaprove all charge* made. Then the executive committee «*« decide whether or not the suspensions are to be made permanent. « Navy 6 H Miss. A. & M. lOllSl' Totals ^64 Tech '.'."V. 0 !»t Totals 54 VIRGINIA— 5 Davidson 6 o SSitlehmond 0 0 22 Bt. Johns 4 ,, 6 k) Gallaudet 0 .. 0 M V, sr. I :.u ••6 9 North Carotins.. 4 .• « a Beirnnee 12 • 0 5 W. A u 6 .. 4 2S Georgetown ..... 6 ..10 163 Totals ,... 54 "GUM SHOES” WORKED FINE Murphy-Keyes Fight Ended by Police, Who Raid Fight Club. Philadelphia, Nov. M.—The po«£ stopped the Tommy Murphy-** Keyes fight last night, which was have taken place at the Sharkey A letlc Club. It waa a swell raid. gum shoea worked to perfection the sporta were done to a turn. Jack Blackbum,_ the neg^o fight*?