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HR. SHAtk'M (MtEBVie(f«0 'ITtMlffb* i ^^THBW.WV.IU-rf NOT NEWS, BUT VIEWS LEAVE Barring something quite unexpected the annual Southern League meeting will actually take place Saturday morning, with n curtain raiser the preceding day. After numerous but not especially vexatious delays the thing is about to occur. It is hard to conceive a peaceful Southern League meeting. They have happened, but they arc the exception. Just what the delegates to the coming meeting will find to fight about is hard to determine, but time will tell. Last year the salary limit came in for much discussion and was the cause of several cases of grouch (seems like Billy Smith had one, but we didn’t know Billy as well then as wc do now and maybe it was something else). Also there was oratory of the perfumed variety, much of which was uncorked by Harry Vaughn. After a long row a salary limit was adopted. Wc forget the amount set—and so did nix out of eight teams in the league last season—but anyway the limit caused just as much hard feeling as though all of them had planned to stick to it. And so it has gone at every meeting. If it wasn’t the salary limit it was an attempt to bottle Charley Frank or to squelch Newt Fisher or something of that order. Speaking of Newt—the plump and cheerful face of the ex- Nashville mogul will probably be missing at the Birmingham ses sion. Newt has been eliminated from bnseball, and according to report is now running a grocery store. Newt was a good sleuth and knew baseball, but he didn’t keep up with the times. He kept thinking that a Southern League team could be run ou $1,900 a year and when he woke up it was too late. Bobby Gilks’ cheerful (sometimes) countenance will also be absent. Bobby was one of the wisest moguls that the Southern has ever known, but someway he has slipped back to the Cotton States League. He will (At missed, though. Among those present will be "The Judge” (William M. Kav- anaugh); his ever genial secretary, Clark Miller; our old college chump, Charley Frarfk; his genial nibs, Miko Finn; his oratorical joblots, Harry Vaughn, and the knocking twins—Charley Babb and Tom McCullough, of Memphis. Among the new comers at the meeting will be Tom Fisher, the new Shreveport mogul, and Johnny Dobbs, Nashville’s new manager. Just what sort of a delegation Montgomery will have on the spot we shall know later. It would take second sight to do a real forecast of the meet ing. Being gifted with nothing but first sight, and being obliged to go "four-eyer” at that, we shall have to attend the meeting to tell whnt wilt happen. And attend we shall, barrin g accidents. New York Sport Willing to Bet Big Money on Herman Tonopah, Nev, Dec. 27.—A. H. Walle. • New York theatrical man, came Into . town yesterday to remain until after the Gans-Hermnn flsht. Mr. Walle I* a strong supporter of Harman, and has watched the career , of the Chicago kid since It began. He . Is here to see Herman and says he has 12,000 to put up against 15,000 that 'Herman will get the decision. There was no one willing to take the bet, which. Walle saye, will stand until the men enter the ring. He would . be willing to place the money at less odds. Gans still rules a decided favorite. I There Is not much money being wa gered at the present time. Doth men continue their training faithfully and Gans seems to realise that he will have trouble In making the required weight. Christmas waa a day of celebration, not only In the ramp of the two pugi lists, but also on the part of the Casino Athletic Club officials, headed by Man ager Reilly. The club celebrated the completion of the arena. Although a small section of the roof of the arena has not been g lared. It Is a certainty that the big ultdlng will be In readiness within the next day nr so. nnd Is looked on us completed by the cluh members, and there was cause for celebration. WHERE ARE THEY’ Tad here shows Champion Jeffries breaking nut of retirement and what he expecta Is going to happen In the heavyweight ranks. Nashville Mogul Has Score of Players He Would Trade ATHLETES IN BRONZE. New York. Dec. 17.—At the Grand Central Palace tonight the members of the United Irtsh-American Societies will turn out In. force at a public re ception given In honor of Martin J. Sheridan and John J. Flanagan, who have upheld the honors of the societies on the athletic track and field. In memory of the occasion the two famous athletes are to be presented with bronxe statues of themselves, one showing Hherldan In the act of throw ing the discus and the other showing Flanagan throwing the ((-pound weight. Itonej Mellody. the welterweight chant plon, has received n» offer to meet Joe Thomss, the California fighter. In s twenty, round bout at Colma next month. The two met once before, on which occasion Thomas gained a decision over Mellody. With the date for the league meeting less than a week off, lays the Nash ville Banner, fans about the circuit are beginning to see what changes a convention of the high moguls will bring about. From the local camp, President Kuhn and Manager Dobbs will go, and poaslbly some others. Thers are several men on the local roster who will be put on the counter for sale or barter. The club's reserve list Includes Frory, Janslng, Wiseman, Persons, Wells, Ely, Sorrell, John Dug. gan, Elmer Dugan, Herman, Stafford and Dusty Miller. Of these. It Is safe to say that some several will go over the roads. Bohannon has already been sold. Red waa a fast fielder, but he was weak with the stick, and there were other objections more serious than this. Frary Is one that seems certain of a trip to other quarters. Ralph cun piny ball, but the kind of exhibition he put u|i here won't win pennants. It may be that he wants a change to some other club In the circuit, and he will proba bly be offered tor someone else In u trnde. Janslng Is also under consideration. Rut It has not been decided definitely what will be done with him. He Is one of the best thlrd-sackers In the league when he gets In the game, but last sea son he failed to round to. It Is a set tled fact, however, that whoever gets hint will have a hustling g-md man, when he wakes up to the game. He has a number of good friends here who are anxious to see him on the team next year. Stafford's cose will be taken up. Early last season he suffered an attack of rheumatism that put him out of tho game for the rest of the season, but It may be thut he has recovered suffi ciently by now to play good ball again. If so, Sir Robert will likely go under the hammer; otherwise, he may be re' leased outright. Herman Is another uncertainty. Last season the Intense heat and a few rounds with Mike Finn proved too much for the Tall Boy, and he ske daddled In mid-season. During the re mainder of the season he waa In Louis ville, out of the game. But his con tract with Nashville still holds good, nnd ho will probably figure In some deal at tho meeting next Saturday. It Is known that at least three other clubs would like to get him. "Dusty" Miller will also, likely be up for consideration. "Dusty” has lotn of goad managerial material In him, and It may be that he will get on to such a job. It Is hardly likely that he will hold on here. Tho outfield here will be loo fast for him to break Into It, and he doesn't look like a sticker. The others menlloped are practically sure to be on the team, unless some ex traordinary offer Is made for some of them. The two Duggans. Ely and Sor rell will form the nucleus of the twirl* log staff. In the outfield. Manager Dobbs and Persons will nil two of the positions. Rut tt Is not known wlint will be done with Wiseman. The little doctor put up a good game at short stop the latter part of the season, and many think It would lie n good plan to keep him there. This, however, de- |K>n<ts on what other men are secured. Doe can put up a good game at either an Infield or an outfield position, and It remains to lie seen what disposition will be made of him. Players Who Went to Minors And Came Back to Their Own Of Course MADEfm}&P**9^r&DAlEr THE STANDARD OF PURITY. Because a ball player Is shipped from one of the two big leagues "back t the minors" does not necessarily mean that such player Is relegated to the lesser organisation forever, writes Sam Crane In The New York Globe. There have been many Instance* where a player not making good in hi first year os a big leaguer has come back from the bushes and become a major league star. It relies altogether on the player him self whether he stays down or bobs up again. One that feels that his profes sional career Is ruined by Ids first fail ure In big league class will never get out of the minor league rut. He will continue to be In the smaller league as long as he plays ball. But It Is those players who refuse to be kept down; those who fight all the harder for recognition of their abilities and who put additional energy Into their work, and who are willing to be taught by older and more experienced players will become so valuable as to lie -e-drafted. The American league has had a dozen or more outfielders to whom the sklddoo sign has been handed by some American nr National league who have convincingly and demonstrated their abilities to get back Into fast company. The chances are go.id. too, that many com ing seasons will see many more of the "come backs." Of the players who ltuve failed to "show" In their first nltetnpts to break Into the big league, bin who arose to the top thereafter, there are Jimmy Jackson, who failed to make good in Baltimore, New York and Philadelphia. He drifted to the St, Paul club, where he played such fast ball and tuttlcd 'to well Hint I.ajole waa glad to secure him for the tievelund team. With the Naps. Jackson has none much excel lent work, anil has filled In most ac ceptably whenever any of the regulars were Incapacitated. The Chicago Cubs tried Congalion, and. although he started off with a bat ting rush that promised large returns, he tailed to continue hla good work and was dropfied by tha wayside. He bnblted up In Cleveland last year, and Is now considered one of the best bat ters of the hard-hitting Naps. ltlnchiniin Is another player who "came back,” after being released by Cincinnati to Columbus. Then there is the phenomenal Stone, whom Boston did not consider strong j enough, and wtut shipped to Milwaukee. The Boston club bad a string on Stone, however, and pulled him back, hut foolishly traded him to 8t. Louis for Burkett. And Stone led the Ameri can League In batting last season. He couldn't be bought from McAleer now ;HIGHLANDERS NEED ! A PEW PITCHERS! Oirffi* to the fact that Clark Griffith and hl« merry band of rover* will train In Atlanta In the Rprtaf, tho local fan* are taking a lot of Interest In the New York aggregation. IIer«» la how Grantland Rice dopes out tho chances of the team: “If Clark Griffith should wake up this cheery Christmas moru and discover a couple of hlgh*clsss t able-bodied alabmen In hla New York sock, the odds are that be would be the gent us- tlon. . “Griff Is up against a queer proposition. “He has a finely balnuccd ball club, with the sole exception of n barren 'hurling hill,' nnd here he Is up against It strong. “Jnck Chcsbro seems to be a full-fledged member of the D. and O. wlgwora. A1 Orth Is not the A! of the golden past, al though he Is still able to keep moat of them guessing. Doc Newton has been cast udrlft. Doyle, Billy Hogg and Walter Clarkson are still experiments. Tom Hughes, the Atlanta wonder, Is lu the same class. “Ail this shows the peculiar conditions which exist In bnlldom these days and time*, for, despite tho fact that Frank Far rell, New York’s o»ner. Is willing to go any limit to t»ng a good man. It seems that no one Is willing to cut s good man loose. '•Griff knows as well as nnylnwly that if he opens n campaign with bis present staff he will be up against It hard. “And yet. with but two mouths left be- «re hi* elan starts Heath, he has been unable to add any apparent strength to bis collection of rifle-pit artists. "The latest now has him out lifter Patten tnd Hildebrand, but the odds tire good bat he will laud neither. “In order to secure Patten, be will he forced to nude ('besbro and fndohanty, hiiiI It's n safe l»et that he will never shore the deal through." J«lm *\ Butler, who caught for the Jersey t'fty team last season, atlso has signed with the Brooklyn*, und of the old players, the signed contracts of Billy Maloney, tin* Meet out (Wider; Bill Bergen, the catcher, and Al Alston, the debonair boxtnau. have been received for bonus. Hemphill, the n**:<t heaviest batter to >d-»ne ;n the Brown*, found the sledding too hard for hint in 8t. Louis In his f.mt attempt, but one year In the American Association put him on Ids baseball feet nnd he Is now con sidered one of the best outfielder* In the American League. Kmll Frisk, t«s>. after being a year in St. Paul, coin*s back to the Browns next year nnd much-fa expected of him. O'Neill, of the While Sox, Is now en joying his second time on earth as a big leaguer. Danny Green is now In Milwaukee, but the chances are bright that he will be hack with the Sox. Then there are Davy Jones. Charley Jones nnd Denny Sullivan, who are all "come backs ** in the American League. In the National League “Spike'* Shannon, of the Giant*, and Odwelt, of the Bed*, arc player* who have been tried once and found wanting, hut man aged to get into the highest class for the second time. There Is always a demand by the major league clubs fur players of abil ity and n first "strike out” does not put a man out of it altogether necessarily." ATLANTA DELEGATION LEAVES ON FRIDAY Four Local Moguls Going to Annual Meeting of Southern League-rNo Excitement Anticipated. Friday afternoon a delegation of of ficiate of the Atlanta Baseball Asso ciation will leave Atlanta for Blrmlng. ham, where they will attend the annual meeting of the Southern Association of Baseball Clubs—known commonly as the Southern League—which will be held at the Now Florence Hotel Satur. day morning. In the party will be John F. Dlckln son, president of the club. Mayor-elect W. R. Joyner, Lowry Arnold, serretary of the club, and Billy Smith, manager of the team. The board of directors of the league will meet Friday morning. Aa Atlanta has no representation on this board, the delegation from the Gate City will make no attempt to get to Birmingham for that event. Nothing of Importance Is expected at the meeting of the board. As far as Is known It has nothing to decide except some matters of minor Importance, email disputes and the like. As far as Atlanta Is concerned noth ing of very startling Importance It likely to break out at the coming meet ing of the league. No Kick from Atlanta. Atlanta Is satisfied with the way things are going. Her team did not win the pennant, but It tried so ex tremely hard that <he public of the Gate City followed the race with mark ed Interest and baseball paid. Like good business men, the local moguls ars not Inclined to change conditions which are profitable to them and sat isfactory to the public. As far as can be learned, no chan i In the league salary limit will be made. It proved satisfactory to all last year and no doubt will be allowed to con tinue unchanged. BAR0N8 GET PENNANT. That the pennant will be awarded to Birmingham Is regurded as certain. The other clubs In the league have a Just kick Coming on the Cas'ro deal, which was Irregular and altogether contrary to the rules, but It Is the spirit of the league to let such bygones ho bygones. There limy be other dispute", but nothing te being said about them. All claims that Now Orleans had against Atlanta have been discharged and nothing te likely to be heard of the Jordan Incident unless Judge Kav- anaugh sees fit to take up the charges made against him In connection with that affair. However, It 1a likely that this matter will be smothered over out side the meeting. The financial affairs of the league will be considered, but this matter In terests the public but little. The dis position In the various funds of the league will be settled upon and that will be about all In the financial line. Altogether the prospects for a calm meeting are good, though appearances are so often deceptive that the Atlanta delegation will be surprised at nothing. OOOOOO0OOOO0OOO0OO0O0OOOOO O 0 O ANOTHER MINING CAMP 0 WANT8 TO GET FIGHT. 0 O 0 New York. Dec. 27.—Battling 0 O Nelson, accompanied by his friend. 0 O Cal Morton, of Leavenworth, V O Kans„ sailed for Liverpool yester- 0 O day on the White Star liner Ma- 0 0 Jestlc. 0 O Nelson announced before leav- 0 O Ing that he had a new offer for a 0 O fight between himself and Joe 0 O Gans from a brand new town in 0 O Ncvadn. The new Goldfield camp 0 0 Is called Manhattan. The offer 0 O of Manhattan for another finish o 0 fight between the two great light- 0 0 weights 1s (10,000, 00000000000000000000000000 HHMMHMMIMHMMIMHIHMIMHMJ TWO ATHLETIC STARS William Ntlton on ths Isft, Martir. Sheridan on right. Both ars all-round; athletics of intsrnatisnal prominence. ' NAT KAI3ER A CO. CONFIDENTIAL LOANS ON VALUABLES. 15 OecMtur.St Kimball House. Barcains in Unredeemed Diamonds. dunnlliMl NtL&HHAhoeSisikiHHlBibfkl