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ny their justness? Wm it one of your “ boo- ]
est exertion,” u» pay your debt*, wt*e“ >'!“
denied ... Mr. Jones and Ma|. Hudspeth,
that von owed one solitary dollar in < nrnu*-
Ville; and after lltid.peih told you dial there
' WUMiii'y n > iiViS I'jiMi.Ui '..Uail'.-'i
in lend, there i* only s.~i paid on it ? Was it
one of your “ honest exertions” to pay your
debts, when you told Col. Seuunes, that you
ha I sett a note to Morris, on a resjioiiiiMe
nrtu, for S>o. in full satisfaction of your note;
when the. n »te sent was the game s■> noie
above referred to ? Is it one of vour "honest
exertions" to pay your debts, that von are
nmv pairing lawyer's fees, to defend, the sev
eral suns against you, fir ib-bt; when you
dnm pretend to deny your indebtedness to
the plaintifls, in the cases? If these are what
you rail “ honest exertions,” you have been
taught in a diller-rjt school of moral Philos-,
ophy from what the most of people in this
country have. I will now, before quitting
this “Jail” part of the subject, fur the pur
pose of showing to what a deep state of dep
redation tl*i■» poor creature has stink, intro
duce an extract of u letter, written bv him,
to Col. Joseph Billups, of Athens.' dated
\V viuiNUTON, July 3d, 1835.
My deOT Couzili Joe :
I receive*l yours »»f the 17th ulr. nri<! was
truly £la<l to tint you li<*H a heart to rn
fcjulhi; • willl rue. My •» I l.i-Mv in -law li;ik
wrote to
hull. and gave such n rYiarncter of me, a*
never wan to a white man; this I will
way more ah oof of some other lime. I»i j r let
in ' tell you, wlitif <lo you think ? ran you be
lieve if, my old daddy Willie, to prevent me
from fttea!ia£ his girl, bought one or two
am ill store accounts, in Mailorvaville, usAinsf
me, follow.;d me here, on Monday, with the
Hlierilf*, an i late in the evening, jnat as I
wiii about to leave here, he hailed me; arid
the Hlierilf*. wvh > is under W’h. command,
without giving me one moment to raise the
money, or give aoruritv, carried me nil to
.1 iii. Yes, w'o ii'iu’s love ha« earried me to
Jail. I stayed there from dark until the next
morning—a friend heard of my sad state,
and cam • to mv relief—l have since then
been engaged in writing, and I intend to
publish the whole ba**n transaction, and to
sue them for d.images, &,e. There never
w h stieh a ci'f in any routilr>: so soon us
Willis got >lr. Shannon** letter he deteiiniu*
< Ito stop at nothing. Me is very popular
ier \ an ! Il ls a great iiunv low ugeuts, and
ca i at'eomplish any objei t. Mis olijn t has
been to place me out of his daughter's reach,
n I to excite puhlie opinion »t»g;»in-%1 me with
Si muon's letter. My old friend, Mr. Mer
e t, -ticks to me, and has given Shannon's
letter the lie.'*
* 'in any tu in re a I the above extract, with
out-a shod lor, lot the corruption n! thine*
f.iri ms villain, when lie is itifornie I that rv
<*rv wor I therein contained, (his going to
.1 iii, excepted) is a faUehond, uripnrnllcd in
the history ot lies, (hr enormity and tnrpi
tul’. Uoul I any man believe that there
w as a wretch *o degraded in human shape,
ns to stump up siicli n remorseless lie? Will
t!i » reader believe me, when I tell him, that
Col. Willi* w as not in town on the day re
ferrod to ? Will he believe tu % when I tell
him, that Col, \\ illis never purchased an
nee Mint no him, in his life ? Will the reader
h dieve. m », when I suv.that this sane tluh
three days. Tin? debts on which he was
arrested, was from < 'arnesville, and not from
\ f Will he t . i
tell him, that ho was not arrested on any I
ease from M.allorvsv illc, until me very da\
that he penned I hi* libellous letter, and that '
ho never was in Jail, at any time, for nuv j
.debt from Mallorysville ? Will lie he|iev<
irte, w hen I t«• 11 him, that he never was nr
r< Me l. on hip one ease from M.illmvsville,
and that foil. Willis had no mote interest
ii t)i in tin* man i:i tin* moon ? \\ ill the in I
cr believe me, when I tell him, that the ve
rv next morning after he wrote this letter, lit
a know* I edged to tail. Seniliies, that lie did
o »t believe that * *ol. NS illis ha I any agency
iri having him hailed; and that In* had m v
I accused l\»f. Willis (see eertiliente) of it ? j
Will he believe me, when I tell him, that
the letter of Mr. Shannon, which he shy-, 1
gaw him such a 'diarat mr, as no white man j
ever had, speak of him in terms as mild as j
the conseieiiee of any Imne-t man would ha '
hi n, consi ba iag the eiremnstance? Ilm, that
every “tie m iv judge eorrertlv lor himself, I
will here insert a copy of the letter referred
to, an I let it speak for itself:
Atokns, Bth Jurx-, 1835.
Mr. Hit S ml J. Ilillis:
lit \u Sin :—Yolirs, of the Itli tuts., is be
fore iiif, making euquiricv relative to Mr. S.
\ Hubbard. Ho wax fur n time an inmate
of my family, as a henetiriarv, mi l was, al
so. a member of our church, bin was exclud
ed, for a ' arift vof falsehood-. Thai was scv -
cr.il years ago, since lliini, I have had no
opportunity of ascertaining w hat his course
has hern, I would take the liliert vof sug
gesting. however, that, if he has lrpeiiled of
the sin, and reformed, an 1 have estalilislieil a
e’larai ter for vtrarity, the o'll nees of past
tint w ought not to lie remembered to his
prniudic . I I.a i-t leqii s' yon, nit to make
anv moot this, unfriendly to Mi. 11., unless
you should feel compelled lo it, hy considera
tions of duty. 1 remain yours, very respect
fully. ‘ JAMK.B SHANNON.
This is the letter w liieh gave him (II.) such
u character, as “never was given to a white
ni i i." Can any man see th ■ least tnaailVs
talion of anv unfriendly reelings, in a single
line or word, on the contrary ? Does not the
wli i!j drift of it go to prove that Mr. Shan
n m was extremely tender w ith hischaiaeter;
vet it gives him such a ehararter as •• never
wis given to a while man." lint the object
of ill this tissue of lies, was simply this: IK
thought if ho could make a surge at Mr.
s i innon. in Athens, and makeitappearth.it
Mr. 8. was the sole rause of his disappoint
ment, and make an impress an that Mi- S.
h id been pro-opted by a ' indietive spirit, that
his chance to excite the sympathies of the
if A .would
at the sa tie time, he w ould he aide to create
•t ii versa) disgust i:i the min Is of every lxi.lv,
to who it Col. Billups might communicate
; v- e i 'it.mts of his letter, tig linst Col. M illis;
an 1 to accomplish this great end. I will ask
the re tier, if there eon Id ever have been a
; f .-h » 1 better devise 1 ? <build satan. with
ii 'its ingenuity in these things, have sug-
C '" I anv thing U tter ealrulateii to pn, luce
a general feeling of disgust nod sympathy '
1 8b an an is here held up a« his i alum
ni at or. Col. Willis, pro opted by motives of
ii* i orst kind, liol-ling Mr. Shannon's calum
nies iu one hart 1 an 1 his one or two little storc
a~eoutjts iu the other, pursuing him lo W
ingtoa, with his “ sub-agent." the Sheridi
eal'ing to him late in the evening, and having
him thrust into jail, “without one moment's
warning ; and 10. and behold' all for uo other
tans* thau becu.i‘e h« wa« »> utiiortunat* at
lo love .“Senator’s daughter.” Gracious
heaven! fa i* possible that this Stephen *•
Hubbard can be a human being, or is tie a
demon ! Can any mar. read thi> le,,e f ° n "*
to Col. Billups, whose mind i* not well bra
ced against superstitious notions, w ithout Ibe
- ■« — L : *hc (jjurj >, *j f ,; n - dial Lu*
' earth, in the person and character of niari
llubbard? Is human ingenuity equal to the
ta-k, uuassikted by the \n*wvr of the 44 bad
onc/ v of devising auch an unfeasible and un
founded falsehood ? I think il will be ac
knowledged, that it i» not.
•Now, w . ll any unprejud ced man want any
additional proof ofitus man'* total depravitv,
after reading this letter? I think not: But as
I have set out to convict him of ot tier crimes,
I will now give the reader the certificate of
the citizen* of Carnesville, by which, I ex
pert to prove, beyond the possibility of con
tradiction, that he certainly did make his es
cape from that place:
At the request of Stephen A. Johnson, of
W ilkes County, we, the undersigned, citizens
of (. arnes\ ille, do In reby certify, and declare
w hat we know and believe of Stephen V.
Mribliard, and of the circum.Mtanees under
which lie left this place, and what we know
and believe of hi* general character, &<*.
Hu?nc time in the sjiring of last year, on the
Sabbath, he took stage for the Currahee
Mountain, to return, a*he said, ou the 'l ues
day following, but did not; but took a circuit
ous route to I .iiicoliiloTi. The night
to fiis leaving here, he procured the services
of a negro, at the tavern where he boarded, to ,
convey hi» trunk, at a very late hour of the I
night, to I'apt. Adam** wagon, to fake it on 1
to Lincolnton. This was done privily, anti !
without the knowledge of the family, with j
whom he boarded, 'fbe evening previous
to hi* running away, he was arrested uinW a
Ca. Sj. ; but, in con>etjuet:cc of* sonic tlefcct
in the I’a. Sn., was discharged from arrest,
ami the plaintill’ in the ease, was making ar
i.irmeiiieiits to have him again arrested, on
Monday, an 1 it was thought that he left, as
lie evidently did, to escape it, ami for fear of
being harrassed, on account of other debts
due the citizens of ibis pl ace; ns he ran
frtvfty in debt to many if them, and to some i
extent. Tlie opinion we entertain of bisgen
eral character, is any thing ratio r than th i
of a high-rniritled, honorable gentleman. He
is most in lubiiably given to much lying, and
that, outlie most trivial occasions, lie i
hypoeiitical hi his pretentions to morality
and religion, also, in hi-frit ridships—is vain,
ostentatious, obtrusive and insinuating in his
intercourse with society. Hold and brazen,
h" wi.l lim e liithsell upon you, whether or
lint Ins company Im.* aiceptable. There? is a
peculiar baby ish littleness about him, which
become* apparent, on a -light ac<piuin an:•»*.
Much more mighl In? waul, in particulari/.ing
many of hi- act many of bis falsehoods
might he pointe«| out. were il necessary*—blit
w<? think enough has been said to present a
correct view of his character and conduct, lo
the community in which he now re-ides; and
before whom we discover he has lately made
an attempt to shield himself from the contempt
which his Conduct justly deserves, through
the U ashiugtoii New*.
Thomas Morris, A. S. Jonf.s,
J. I*. Wi.ITTt N, 111 MIY rHK.I MAI,
Tims. r. Stkirli!vu, ( 'iihistohiii ii Hakf.i?,
11. W. I>A\M, E. w. M ohius,
\ I UIJ I M Mn <HI LL,
Jon \ SiiAi Ki i. Kiim, Haml. I iki.ii,
Kli lIAMU Jk >KI >s, 'I’IIOMAB 1\ I >U,
AI.V IN Ml AN.
The following named citizens are residents
of the \ iciuity:
I iio*i. I\ NN iiitr., (i'koium: Kinu,
\. S. Uai.wi i.i,, Woodson Hi.vnkknsiiip. !
I do hereby certify, that I was Constable
! ol the C.n nesville di-tiiel, in 1831, and some
time in the spring of that year, I arrested .8.
\ Hubbard, by v itlue of a I'a. Ba., iu favor
“I I hotiia- I . Hi i tilling, and there be ring a de
feet in the C.i. Ba., said Hubbard was dis
charged or released. This was late on H.it
lirilav evening, before Mr. Iltibbnrd left on
Buiidav, and there was arrungi incuts mn
king lo have him arrested again, as soon as
another t a. S.i. could be olMtiined on Mon
i day morning; bad lie not have lilt on Hun
-I iv. 1 l aiiuol say, trout personnl knowledge,
'hat Mr. Hubbard was not a man of truth, but,
; ttom m\ kit iw ledge of his general character.
I can say, that lie was not so cou-idered, b\
the citizens of C.-iinesville.
Hiven under inv hand, this dih of \ugu •,
1835. JOHN BI.ANKIiNHIIIp.
Vt the request of Col. Stephen \. Johnson.
I do hereby certify, that S. V. Hubbard to
the si a .e for Ciirtahee Mountain, on the Sab
bath dav in February or March, 1831, and
stopped at the house ofThomas 11. Williams.
INip, and requested me lo liastnu on Tues
day with the stage, outlie following Tues
day. as lie wanted lo let urn loCnrnesv ille. 1
hove the stage, at that time, from Athens to
Clarksville. Hiibhard, when I came hark,
was gone, an 1 lie has never paid >o me his
-’age fair, or any one else. I farther certify,
that lie runaway in this manner, from Carncs
v ille, in debt to many ot it> citizen-, a*. 1 has e
been informed, and that he is a habitual liar.
T ere can be no doubt this vice sccminelv
he tig constitutional with hint.
I! Ml Via Y MIX.
Canusrillr, August t!/A, 1835,
C vnM svu t r, August oth, 1835.
Having been informed that Stephen V.
Ilubhaitl, formerly of this place, has been ex
hihitinga ceilitionio. signed by Mat. Billups,
and Archibald Cameron, stating that tie \
wete present at a conversation that took place
! el ween Stephen \ - Hubbard and mvself, in
t ’tirnesv ille. mi Sunday, the llttli iilt. and
t! a’ said Hubbard asked me il I had ever
written to-Col. Willis, respecting Mid Hub
bard. in answer to a letter Col. Willis w rote
tome, I answered “ tin," and that said Huh
hard then asked me it I had ever known anv
thing dishonorable of him, during his resi
dence in Camesville. to which 1 answered
"no.” Now, for the purpose of explaining
this m uter, so as to prevent anv possible mis
< OIIS'IU tin I, I do hereby make the f >llow ing
rent: Mr. Hubbard s second in erog
tttorv. was mider-tisvl bv me, to relate solely
to my personal knowledge ~f his partieidar
nets ol impropriety, while he remained lo re,
and I answered it. m corditigk . During hi
residence here, no particular net if his of an
improper character came immediately- under
my observation, though 1 repeatedly bean I
various statements made, that I had no rea
s>n to doubt, which were derogatory to his
charae'er; and farther. Ido consider the man
iter of his leaving tins place, a- derogating
very much from his diameter as a man ol
honor. 1 farther state, that I have been in
form.si, that he has said that he had sent me
an «te oa Henman, iu full payment of a note j
ol 8-V). which 1 hold on said Hubbard, and j
nsn proof its his statement, has been exhibit- !
ini) a note, written by my bto.m r. Thomas j
Morris, arkuow Icdgrin - the receipt of Den
•raja 3ircrjcjeauat S'JT»
mm.', note, without saying aoy thing abooC
tbe amuuut. It he has done m, _ _
with an evident intention ot deceiving, f
tbc noie -cut me on Denman, J ,,r °°‘> ** ’
and that was not to be considered in payment
o! any part o' tnv debt, at the time 1 received
ii, mini I had collected u. Ihu 1,11 ,tie
[
Now, wA’Jd not every, man, wornao, ur*!
child, in the county*, ujmju rea testi- ■
luony, come to the Couclt*>*)o at oi.ee, that '
Hubbard had from Caruetville?
Would any body, U* r Hubbard, deny u } . The
testimony is both /ositjve and circuifistaritiai,
and here it may asked, can thi* nun Hub
hard expect to ward ofTiU eflecu ? C’au be
expect to do positive testimony, with
| any thing else but positive testimony ? Yes,
j be has latdy had the audacity lo go to
< 'arnchvillr, and get up a certificate, of a neg- j
alive chaiar ter, and hu« attempted to palm it !
i off on the community, as rebutting testimony ,
nf a w righty nature, though i? is u>thing
more thau the hascst horse thief in the enuufy
or Slat", could get certified to; for the i*ertifi
ers certify to nothing more than, srj ur as
th« ir pcrv.nal knowledge is concerned, %m\ a
hor-e thief may steal horses all the day* of
his life, and, perhaps, there is not one of Jus j
neighbors in 20 miles, that will ever ksow |
that he stole a horse, only from hearsay, and
can know nothing of his character, only as
it is understood to be, from common repo*; j
•o it wu»witl» all the persons f saw at < *ar;i(^|
Vlllr, anil it* v'nj'iuUy, wlm wrlitivtl tur
hurl; ih»y all knew from report, that he
would tell lies, anil hail runaway, but of their
personal knowledge, they knew nothing a
gainsl, him & a good many very respectable
men signed his eertilieate, not knowing liisob
jecl, and thinking about what kind of an ell’ecl
illis negative certificate was likely to have, so
far from home; and, as a proof of what is
here slated, I will here annex a certificate
from eight of his certifiers, who are all that
live in the im mediate vicinity ofCarneaville,
except M. 11. I'ayite, and his two soils; aud
as a proof of Mr. I’ayne's views, in regard to
Hubbard, I will introduce J. E. Whitten's
aud l)r. Freeman's certificates. Mr. Payne
acknowledged the same, in substance, in the
presence of two Kev. gentlemen, who were
raised in this neighborhood, and whose ve
r.ici y c till), in nowise be ipiestiotied. I did
nut call on the young Mr. Payne, because
they w ere both mere youths; one of them
not more than sixteen, perhaps.
The certificates are as follows :
We tin hereby certify, that we F. V#
Hubbard, during his residence in Carnesville,
ad we have no personal knowledge of any
particular impropriety of his, (as we have fce
f'nre certified fbrMr. II.) But, we know that
his general character for veracity is not good;
and. that we have always understood, ftotri
tl ec ny.etis of the village, that, when lie left
lu re, he rauawav.
Jas. I). Hoatwriuut, CaiAin Watson,
Jacob Wkkms, lit. ha tin Mahsuali.
W illiam Marshall, Jacob Wkems,
I.'arnks Blankknsiiip.
August lilt, 1d35.
Now, It t us see what Mr. Thomas F. Stan
ford .-uni l-'rcdctick Freeman, Esq. says, also,
John 11. Harrison, Esq.; Mr. Freeman, aud
Titos. F. Stanford, were on his general cer
tificate, aud Mr. Harrison gave him a sepa
'ftpjpfwoHeHiYti iii ling it hack, as well its Tames
Moiris' statement, as certified to by I 'atneron
and Col. Billups, and the certificate of Mr.
Davis, referred to in his certificate, herein
I pulili: bed. However, I will first insert Mt.
Wfjillcn's and Dr. Freeman’s certificates, as
lo the savings of Mr. Payne:
August 6th, 1835.
I do herehv certify, that I was present at a
Conversation between Stephen A. Johnson
and Max field 11. Pay tic, of .'his vicinity, which
took place yesterday morning, in relation to
a certificate'said Payin' had signed for Ste
phen V. Hubbard, which certificate «as pub
lished in the Washington News, anti heard
-aid Payne say, that he did not believe that
the words “strict veracity," was embraced
in the certificate, when lie signed it; that,
though Hubbard bail been guilty of no im
propih tv, so far as his persona! knowledge
was co’.c -rued, hut, from his general charm— l
ter, he ilid not believe him to be a mail of ve
racity. J. E. W IIITTHN.
At the request of Stephen \. Johnson, Ido
| hereby certiiy, that I was in company with
I hint on last evening, when he called on M.
11. Bayne, Esq., in reference to a certificate
he half signed tor 8. \ . Hubbard, when Mr.
Pay tie-aid, the ecrlilieati had undergone al
; terntiotis, since he signed it—that the wools
" strict veracity,” wire not in the original,
anl consequently, must have been added
■ incc he signed it ; and, also, that his name
had 1 ei n transferred from itsoriginal position:
that the testimony he gave to Hubbard's
character, amounted to nothing, no way; it
being entirely of a negative character.
HENRY FREE.M VN.
Can* sviltr, August sth, 1835.
Mr. Payne said, at first, that he would sign
the ex j 1 History certificate, and his son would
I Jo the smne; but, upon reflection, he ilrelin
"l. not liking to appear in the new
and sonic might think that he had contradict
ed himself.
"I hn ing been so unthoughtful as to sign 'wo
papers, niiieernir.g 8. V. Hubbard's charac
ter, I find it in cessarv to point out mv mo
tives, w hich arc as follow s : The first,*a |a
pc-, dr aw n up by Col. H> nry Frecniat, and
swit of llie most respectable’ citizens, giving
*'i history ot Ins eharaeler. and statements con
eerti'ttg I is elopement fiont this place, which
tre strictly true; mid being deceived hy, and
1. wise, hxiser. I signed ihe paper, to caution
o Iters. 8..-! clime after this, on Sunday mor
n ng, Mr. Hubbard came rushing in* like a
baboon, bow ing and scraping to all he met,
stating, that l e intended to stop with ns two
or three days, lor the purpose of getting a
certificate, staring that he had always been
apparently, steady and attentive to business,
win C li> Ug in I'amcsville—this was. also,
mte. Though I have seen Mr. Hubbard
drink w iris' very copiously. I dont know that
I ever have seen him much, if any, itiioxiea
od. Thinking that lie would try to rettieve
his charactet, in some way, bv squaring up
the little dues he owed about town, I signed
i- pant, which I am heartily sotry foi.
But, Mi. Hubbard made his excape that same
Hundav night. T. I’. STANFORD.
August 3d, 1835.
The reader now has a specimen of the
manner in w hich, and the means resorted to
by Hubbard, to get signatures to hi- certifi
•l ••• •• went m Mr. Stanford, who is „:<e
re p i-rablc. told him lie was getting a certifi.
caie s gn and, testily mg to his soberness, steadi
ne-s. anti application to business, w hich M
>r 1 e.-nld Mihscrilte to; for. mewit'w ‘
standing llubbj'fvl did runaway from tiier
and Mi. 8t: dot.! had signed a certificate i„
,br edict. he bad not kn >w*! of hr» gruir-
dAnk. “though he bad seen him druik wine
e<iously”—he had not known him to indulge
irjny dis-ipated habits, hence, he could say
ill-’ he was “ steady” —lie had not known
•;ii> to neglect his business, consequently, he
ctfd testify to that much for him, with pro
ir;v, notwithstanding, he believed him not
|» a mau >t veracity* and trial he had fliu
t 1 | ousvilie; aud when Mr. 80111-
"igrtc-jAro paper, be thought it contained
nuibißg more than what fa above stated, or he
would not hive signed it. Indeed, he could
g-.-t nobody in Carnesville to sign any sort of
a paper, which savored the least of any thing
g rog to establish a good name for him, if the
perfiort of his c»rtilicate had be* a rightiy un
derstood. AnJ, to show how he tried to op
er.-.te on others, besides Mr. Stanford, I w ill
a w give the certificate of John B. Harrison,
E*f r.:
PuxKu.tCorNTV, Auguststh, 1835.
At the request of Stephen A. Johnson, I do
htrebv certify, that, on Sunday, the llhh of
Ji.lv, ult.. S.* V. lluhbard called on me, at
C imesville, to certify for his character, more
than I knew ; that is, dial he was a moral,
upright man, and a man of strict veracity-—»
This 1 refused to do, and told him that I did
n<,t wish to certify any thing about him, for,
my acquaintance was limited with him, and,
of my own knowledge. 1 knew nothing of his
character, lie then wrote a-few liues ou a
slip of paper, amounting lo nothing for nor a
geinst him; the testimony I bore to his c’nar-
being entirely of a negative character,
|Ht even mis was gtvenafter ie|>ca»vxt iiiipor
personal knowledge, I knew nothing to the
contrary of his being a steady, moral, upright
man. I will farther state, that, when Hub
bard called on me, I told him that, though I
knew nothing against him. of tnyscll, "yet, I
had heard, from respectable individuals, many
things derogatory to his character, as a moral,
-upright man. Whereupon, lie remarked,
that hearsay was no testimony, and still iu
sfated dial 1 should sign his innocent certifi
cate. JOHN B. HARRISON.
Hubbard's effort to get Frederick Freeman
to sign his certificate, was still more disgrace
ful and humiliating. When Mr. Freeman
was looking over, perhaps weighing the mat
ter, and reflecting as to whether fie should
put hfa name to it, he tells him, (as will ap
pear from his certificate) in order to inspire
confidence, and beguile hitn into w hat his
better pidgmeiit might afterwards disapprove,
voluntarily, that his brother (Dr. Freeman,)
would have signed it, hut the Dr. and Col.
—hTtvil hud given him <i recommendation,
which made it unnecessary for him to do so;
when, on the contrary, lie would not have
shown himself to Dr. Freeman, even in his
debilitated situation, for the use of every man’s
name in Carnesville, notwithstanding his
bravado since his return from that place, that
lie could not get a peep at Dr. Freeman.—
But, the fact fa, it fa etifirely unnecessary to
discuss the question of hfa veracity, for he
will not tell tlie truth, on any- occasion. His
lie, too, which he tool to Maj. Hudspeth ami
others; that is, that Frederick Freeman re
gretted, very much, the course which his
brother (Dr. F.) had pursued towards him,
was still more barefaced, as it will be seen,
bv Mr. Freeman’s certificate, which says,
that he did not know, at the time, that the
Dr. had written, or even said, one word ahout
Hubbard:
h- «•'»—- c- «... a 7,u. mis
At 1 fie request of Stephen A. Johnson, of
Wilkes county, I do hereby certify, that, on
Monday morning, the SOth'of Julv, tilt., S. V.
Hubbard, with another gentleman, drove up
before my house in a gig, from which Mr.
Hubbard alighted, (the other individual re
maining in the gig,) and carne into my house,
and presented me with a certificate of his
character, which w as signed by several indi
viduals lor my signature. After some hes
itation in my mind, I dosn; but Hubbard had
not probably gone five miles, before I regret
ted the act, h iving signed the certificate pre
cipitately, and without due reflection. Hub
hard being in a great hurry, as he said, to get
on, as Map Billups (the gentleman in the
gig before tnv house,) was anxious to anive
at .Athens, at a given hour of that day—and.
fmtn IIV iVt of not being sufficiently, or, in
deed, at aii (before Hubbard informed me,)
a- pinintod wiii; the c-reurnstances which
gave tisc to the eerl!i;e" lc —I now state, that
I had hut a passing acquaintance with Hub
! bard, during his residence in i.'.aroesville, and
l know, of my own knowledge, personally, no
thing particularly for or against him; at. 1 fhis
j wars my understanding of the purport of the
certificate, it being, a- I thought, at the time
I signed it, entirely of a negative and harm
less character. In looking over the signa
tores to this certificate, not seeing my broth
er’s. (Hr. 1 reemati.) I was about asking him
(H.) the reason, when he remarked, volun
tarily and unasked, that the reason mv broth
er's name w as not to his certificate, w as, that
he and Col. Terrell had previously given
him a letter of recommendation, as to his
morality and ability, as a teacher. lam in
formed that Hubbard haseihibited mv name,
boastingly and triumphantly, as testimony a
i gainst any thing my brother may have w ritten
or said, derogatory to his character; w hen, in
deed. 1 did not know, at the time 1 signed the
■C'-rtificaie, that toy brother had written or
said any thing of him. And, at the time I
signed his certificate, not seeing my brother's
name to it, 1 had at first supposed it grew out
of the fact, of his afflictions not allowing hint
to leave his house, as Bum!av, the I!hh tilt.,
w as, particularly in the evening, a rainy and
blustering day. I learn that Hubbard has
headed his certificate, “Carncsvillc. July
, a Ist. 1835; thereby, he evidently intended to
convey the idea, that the signers tothe certifi
cate, were all citizens of that village. Mv
residence is eight miles from Carncsv ille,and
I signed it in my own house, as before stated,
on Monday morning, the 20th. Were it to
Ido again. 1 should be very clear of signing
any thing in favor of Hubbard's character, as
1 am now induced to believe, after hearing
the fact- ot the case, any thing the citizens of
Carnesville have certified about him, to wit:
Thai he ranaway from Carnesville, in debt
to many of its citizens, and is much addicted
to the vice of lying. I also learn, that said
Htthhard has staled to some of the citizens of
-AViil.es. that I expressed to him considerable
regret, at the course my brother (Dr. F.) had
pursued towards him—if he has done so. he
has stated a positive falsehood ; fiir. mv broth
er's name was not mentioned, only as before
stated. FREDERICK FREEMAN.
I have now got through with the certificates
from Carnesville; and all 1 n-k of those who
are disposed to believe that Hubbard has been
slandered and persecuted, is. an attentiv c pe
rusal : and. after giving thistestimonv a tiio- i
rough investigation, if they arc not convinced •
that he diil runaway fror> Carnesville that
his claim to chnracter. for veracirv. is not
completely unset—why. then, would be use
less to oftcr any t-s "funny against hitu. It
would prove indeed, that thev w, e and. ;er
mined pet to be ennv inced. Hneffi-tt 'c im
pose tbc negative certificate, which he has
published, on the community, eshas ought of
itself, lo convince every impartial man, ot
the deccptivene=s of his character. First,
heading it with “Carnesville,” without giv
ing any explanation of the matter, shews,
most clearly, that he designed to make the
impression, that they were citizens of that
place; and it was done for the express purpose
of making au offset to the affirmative certifi
cate previously given, by the citizens of that
place—But when the matter fa examined into,
only a few of hfa signers are citizens of the
place, and they are all young men. one of
them not more than 17, upon whose creduli
ty he was, by h:s base arts, enabled to ope
rate, and cfie”at them into an act which they
never intended to perform, by telling them
that he only wished them lo testify, that he
was “sober, steady, and attentive to tmsiness.”
(See Stanford's cettificate.) And then, after
getting all he could in the village, a meagre
number, to be sure, he then makes his appear
ance among the country people, who know
but little, and care less, about him, to gel
signers to hfa certificate; and take notice, he
warned no “hearsay” testimony, and that
for the best reason in the w orld, because he
knew if they give their “hearsay" evidence,
that it would all be against him; for, I pre
sume. there is not a man, nowhere in that
vicinity, but what knows, from common re
port, (“hearsay,”) that heranawav, and that
he is a liar. But, the signers must confine
their testimony solely to their personal knowl
edge and what, I would ask, can a man
know, personally, of an individual's particu
lar acts of impropriety, who has only a pass
; ing acquaintance with, ami sees only about
j once a fortnight, or, pet haps, not ofteuer than
| once a month. In fact, one may see Hub
hard every day of his life, and he (11.) may
tell him ten lies every time he sees him, and
he is so plausible, that, unless lie investigates
his statements, he will not know that he has
told a single falsehood; and, if he should
happen to catch him in a few, aud attacks
him about it—why, it is all a “ mistake,”
“vou misunderstood me.” But, to return
from this digression: Hubbard, let it suffice
it to say, presented his certificate to every
body that had ever seeu hitn, young aud old,
boys and all. some of whom did not live, as I
am informed, within li! miles of Carnesville;
and this is the w av he has attempted to prove
that he is a man of veracity. This is the
wav that he has attempted to make an im
pression that he did not runaway from Carnes
ville; the positive testimony of almost every
citizen of the place to the contrary, notwith
standing; as well as the testimony of some
persons, who reside in the neighborhood. 1
will now ask Mr. Hubbard, if he did not in- !
lend to runaway, why it was. that he confri- !
ved to have his Trunk put on board of Mr.
Adams’ wagon, at a late hour of the niglu,
secretly, anti without the knowledge of the
family, with whom he hoarded? If you did
not runaway, sir, why did you tell Mr. Davis
that you should return on Tuesday; while
yon interrogate Dr. Dean, in your letter, of
the 28th of July, as to whether or not you
did not w rite him a note, the morning you
left in the stage, saying to him, that you
should go to Lincoln ? If you intended going
j to Lincoln, how- did it happen that you told
Dr. Dean you were going, and told Mr. Davis
amt Mr. Hix that you were not going, but
should return to Carnesville on Tuesday?
If you did not intend running away, why did
>**« u’iMr 111* toliosUta buck on Tu*«lav,
;«.xit you wished to return as#*arly as possible;
and then, before Mr. Hix had got fairly out of
'ight, petition Mr. Williams to send you to
Capt. Ilacket’s ? If yon did not intend run
ning away, w hy did you not return toCarnes
ville, from Capt. Market's, to take the stage
from that place, instead of Bowersville ? W as
not Carnesville as near to Capt. Hacket’s as
Bovve..a,lie? It you did not intend running
away, why did you hav e your Trunk sent
| off, secretly, by a w agon, instead of leaving
j directions, at Carnesville, to put it on the
i stage, on its return ? If you did net ri navv ay,
j lor what purpose did you write to A. E. Wbft
; ten and Thomas Morris, soon after you arri
j ved at Lincolnton. to know what the feelings
| of the citizens of Carnesville were, towards
j you, in consequence of your singular exit ?
j Once fur all—ll you did not intend running
away, w hy did you not settle your board bill,
| by liquidating the account, or otherwise—and
why did you not see your creditors, and have
a general talk with them, upon the subject,
| that you might have left in "open day.” for
Lincolnton, it,stead of Citrrnhec, and have
saved your 25 cents, which, I presume, you
1 must have paid the boy, for conveying your
11311 kon to the wagon? And, if you did
r.ot nitif wa y, how- does it happen, that every
man in Caru PSV hle, should lie soegregiomly
mistaken, as lo yC u r intent, when they know
all the circumstances iT'ler which you left
there? Ah! but savs iYi,. Hubbard, “I
wrote to Mr. Davis, ou Tuetday, ,’hPt 1 should
not return, but should go to I.incolnloi.’; and
if I intended running aw ay, why shouin I
have done this?” \\ hy, for the best reason
in the world, inasmuch, as lie had got cut of
reach of pursuit, before Mr. Davis got his let
ter ; (the people of Carnesv ille, of course, did
not know that he was at Capt. Huckei's,)
and, alter he had got beyond danger of being
pursued, of course, it was the best policy in
the world, to escape interruption, to write
hack, in order to appease the excited fears of
his creditors, and to keep them oil' him, lor
a while, at least. (Hence his letter to Mor
ris, to send his account to Lincolnton, and
that he would settle it; hut, when he did so,
he took the a Ivantageoi Morris’ absence, ind
gave his note, due last Christmas.) And, if
you w rote to Dr. Dean, that you were then on
the eve of starting lo Lincoln, why the neces
sity of w riting to Mr. Davis, on Tuesday, in
relation to the same fact ?
1 think that Mr. Hubbard may tax his in
genuity. and bring to his aid, all his tact at
falsehood, and he will still never be able to
make any person believe that it was anv
thing but a runaway. I will ask you one
other question, Mr. Hubbard: If you did
uot intend running away, why did vou ob-
ject to Mr. Davis’ certifying to all tl’e facts.
! in relation your elopement, when von were
i in Carnesville last, and. for the purpo'e ol
inducing him to give one, containing onlv a
i l l of the details, by telling him a lie. to w it:
That it had been stated, that you left there in
; the night, and your object alone,' was, to ,hs
provi thisstatetnrnt. (S« e Dav is' certificate.)
The first lie whxhllubbatd stumped, to do
away the effect of Dr. Freeman’s letter to
i V’ l I- Willis, w as. that Freeman was inimical
to him, in consequence of a correspondence,
which he (11.) held with Rev. Mr. Mercer, to
which Freeman replies, that he never knew
that he held any such correspondence. The
next < tlbrt was, to create a prejudice against
Freeman, on account of a letter of reconi
mendation, which, he savs. Dr. Freeman
gave him, when he left Carnesville, by ap
pealing to the people, in this wanner. “That
.ll - were considered this \ character, hi u
■i ..aj pened. that Dr. Freeman gave him this
flattering recommendation Which mav he
answered, as follows: That though Dr. Ftee
man knew that he was not a man of veracity;
vet, he, as a teacher, may have done very
well; and I)r. Freeman gave him such a re
commendation, as related solely to his con
duct, as a teacher. But Hubbard had no
sooner got his letter, than he took stage, as
has been stated, and “cut grit.” But, we
•will suppose, that Freeman has acted incon
sistentlx, (which I do not admit, by any
means,) does that inconsistency do away- the
force and cfleci of the balance of the testimo
nv ? Take aw ay Dr. Freeman’s name from
the certificate, and there is still something like
twenty respectable men, who certify to the
same thing ahout him, and yet, Hubbard ex
pects to set aside all this proof, without intro
ducing one little of testimony, which goes, in
the least, to contradict, or, in anywfae, ope
rate against any statement that has been cer
tified to, against him. lie has been making
some efforts, too, to create suspicion, in regard
to Thomas Morris’ evidence, because Thom
as Morris has written him letters, couched in
friendly terms. Now, what does Mr. Morris
say, in his first letter to Col. Willis: “The
above is a plain statement of facts; myself
and Mr. Hubbard arc. sf 1 have always been,
perfectly friendly. I have no disposition 16
injure Mr. Hubbard, hut as you wished a
candid answer, 1 have given such a one."
Now, does not the above extract show, to the
satisfaction of every one, that tho’ he knew
.Mr. Hubbard had done wrong, yet, as he had
done him no particular injury, he had been
: perfectly friendly w ith him, and was not dis-
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his testimony reluctantly, but honestly and
now this same Hubbard is trying to’ injure
Mr. Morris, merely because’ he had been
friendly to him, when he (11.) did not deserve
his friendship, and is straining every nerve to
i make an impression that Mr. Moiris has testi
fied to these things, against him, through the
j operation of some “malign” influence.
Knowing them not to be true ; hence he has
I been exhibiting the certificate of Maj. Joseph
Billups and Archibald Cameron, certifying
to what Janies Morris acknowledged in t’heit
presence, for an explanation of which, I refer
the reader to James Morris’ certificate, given
! in this communication. He has had another
i small “hook,” upon which he has hung some
; small “ hopes,” to w it: Col. W ales’ letter,
which he exhibited to the Trustees of this A
| catlemy, as evidence of his qualification, &c.
' Now, to shew w hat a complete impostor he is,-
; even in small things, I will here give the
public an explanatory letter from Coi. Wales,
of the Cth inst.:
“The letter which Mr. Hubbard has
shewn, from me, was written him, tinder
! these circumstances: We were* without
! a teacher in Clatkesville, and a gentle
man, who had known Mr. Hubbard, had
spoken to him, ahout coming here, to fake
charge of the Academy; it was in answer to
a letter from Hubbatd, on this subject, to the
gentlemen referred to, ami at the gentleman's
request, that my letter to Mr. Hubbatd was
written. I barely knew Mr. Hubbard at the
time; and, from what I have heart! and seen
of him since, I should consider him a very
improper person, as a teacher to the mind*
and morals of our children.
Yours, &e. S. A. WALES.
Now, docs it not appear evidrtir, frotn ev-*
ery movement which Hubbard makes, that
he never thinks of any\thing but fraud and
deception. When he i arueto IWaJlorysville/
to get the school, last kridrfion to iflf
recommendation from Lincoln, he deposited
this letter of Col. Wales, written in 1632 or
1833, to him, inviting him to Clnrkesvilie,
to take charge of the Academy, and staring,
(CONTINUED ON THE 4th E.V6E.)
From the Mobile Begisttr, August 17.
The result of the election in this State fa
llow pretty well ascertained. Clement C.
Cloy, the Van Buren candidate, has been
chosen Governor by a considerable majority,-
over his opponent Gen. Parsons, who can
vassed under the « kite flag. This election
if it may not be considered as a positive indi
cation of the numerical strength of Judge
W bite in this State, is. without dispute, the
nearest approach to it that has been made,
anti furnishes ample ground for encourage
ment and exultation to the Republican par
•y- Already the Khite presses and the Pi hiti
politicians arc endeavoring to cover rheir de
feat by tbe poor consolation that Clav, ver
fonally preferted Judge White to Mr. Van
Buren. Before the election they printed
circulars—wrote hitter partizaTi philipiess—
moved every scheme to prove him s Van
Buren man,—a fact which his public address
es very unequivocaly admitted him tobe.cow
that Judge White occupies a position of bosili
ity and danger to the Democratic party. It
w assaid that il Judge Clav should succeed.
White’s prospects would “’be BLASTED in
.-vlabama,” and accordingly they fought with
might and main. Letters were written a
broad, and published in opposition papers,
claiming a triumphant election for General
Parson?, and denouncing a W aterloo defeat
against Judge Clay. Well.— the election fa
over,—Judge C i.ay is elected, over the W hits
candidate, and now, forsooth, because he caidt
that his personal feelings were far Judge
White, while at the same time his seas* of_
duty to the party, to prevent ns disruption,
would lead him 'o support Mr. Van Burr n,~
a declaration on wt'cb their special hostil.ty
to him was founded, — lo! every thing is lo»
be taken back ! and we sha.'J uot be sarpriseii
to find Judge Clay’s election claimed yes, a»
an evidence of Judge W bite's uni.!-ailed pop
ularity in Alabama. It would not be mors
absurd and preposterous than the daily alle
gations ol the oppositir n j rcss, in regard to
public opinion in this State. But, w hatever
may be said on this subject for political effect,
the friends of Mr. Van Buren are sathfirtl
with the tesult. Wherever the contest was
warm between Van Buren and White, tie
latter got but little more than the old opposi
tion and nullification vole. The vote for
General Parsons numbers very nearly, if not
quite ihe whole unqvalif.td "While strength
™ lliC s ' ,a,e - Os *hc votes-for Judge Clay,
thete will be bnt very few,—hardly a enrj o*r
nlsguardin a county, now when the distinct
objects of the White party are so clearlv evi
dent. that w ill not he found on the side of the
Union and Van Evren.
In connexion w ith this latter remark, we
cive the following significant confession of
the purposes and objects of the W bite Nulli
fiers, w hich we find in the Charleston Mercu
ry, lately an opponent, now a zealous advo
cate of M bite, and always the chief organ of
the elit of S. Carolina* Nullifiers, who me
looked to every w here else as the oracles of
s t*e true faith. I.et Inion men read and re
member. The writerisspeakingofthe Union
ists in their relations to Mr. Ya*n Boren:
“ But whether they agree with him in all
points or not, they know that he has promis
ed to entry on the work (the great work of
consolidation and
begun by Geu. Jackson;” an,'?”" "V are,
there fore, determined, as far as tbev ars ioT*-