The American patriot. (Savannah, Ga.) 1812-1812, May 01, 1812, Image 2
V r.tc of tlit God wi.u know* uur though': so.d motive*, 4iui U> whom wc must hereafter render an account for the deeds done in (he bedy. lie hoped the spirit of party and every improper p anion would be exercised, that our hearts might be as pure and clean as tall to the lot ot human nature He was confident in declaring (hat this was S'OT a measCre of the executive —that it v.as engendered by an extensive excitement upon the erecti ice. He agreed with the get.tlc r. an from Pennsylvania (Mr. Seybert) liiat it comes to uj in a mmtimubfc ohtipe, or rather man uni/u ••timable ohaptc. Whose ever mea sure it is the people of the United States will consider it as a subterfuge for war ; as a re treat from the battle. We some years ago r -(lived that we must have war, embargo or rubnutitm —Wc have not had war oh submit ted—we most therefore have embargo. It appears to lie limited to sixty days ; and at the expiration of that time, will any one say we shall be prepared fur war I Sir, we are in die aittiaticn of a debtor who promises to nay bis note at the bank in sixty days—wc email prolong the time sixty days, and sixty days alter that, until defered hope makes the heart s. He would tell the honorable speaker, tli.it at the end of sixty days we shall not have war, and the reason is, the cxccutive d.irt not plunge the nation into a war in our unprepared state. tie liad too much reliance on his wisdom and virtue, to believe that he would be guilty of such gross and unpare llefed treason. Mark my woid, you will renew your note, if endorsers Can be hud i you cannot t ake it up. The honorable. Speak r was mistaken, when t. say s the message is for war—lt 13 the et vect of excitement occasion by ministerial, fe det'.d and neutral papers, and is not the wish cr meaning of the executive. He would appeal to the sobriety and r flec tion of the house, and ask, whatn-a- cauje of war for tlx last twelve months I What nuns cause of embargo within thai period ! The alii.it of thr Chesapeake is sett ltd—No new n Ire pie cf blockade interpolated into the Lava of nations. He should suppose every Iran cl candor and sober reflection would ask why we did not go to war twelve months -.go ? Or wII it be sud we ought to make tip, by our promptness now, for our slowness then I Or will it he said, that if the wheat tor winch we have rt ceived two dollars per bushel, had bi-en rotting in our barns, wc should huve Wen richer or h- ppier. what troutd the planter say, if you was to ask him which he would prefer, the honora ble, chivalrous course advocated by the spea ker, with the consequences which will attend it, the sheriff at his hack and the excise col lector pressing him > Ho would laugh in your five. If ,ui embargo twelve months ago would lure been folly aid ruinous, he would re quest any gentleman to say, what makes it wise now > It is not generally wise to dive into futuri ty ; but it is wise to profit by experience, al though it may be unpleasant. He felt much concerned to have the bill on the table one hour. No one car. tell the great injury to the mill-owner cr the nr-reliant by the nitre men tion of an embargo in tins house. It being li mited to only sixty days, it can do no possi ble good to’ihe public, orb- the means o. briefing our property from abroad; but as occasioning great speiulations, it will be no tions to many and give great fortunes to few, i Jj’ Mr. RANDOLPH declared to his cer tain hnoroledce t the FRENCH MINIS TER Surrmirr, ever -m-o Ins air.v.l h-re, h <d b ee REF-SINC OCR GOVKIiN MF.NT TO I’ROSIIBIT THE EXPORTA TION Os OUR PRODUCTS TO SPAIN AND PORTUGAL, which the governnitn’ have heretofore eluded. Ard is tins the way which the honorable Speaker, with so much gad ad try *rivi cattil an honorable war—to ROB our own people, te gratify the vnaliga 7*nnt ait.biUon of the imperial tyrant in sub duing the poor Spaniards, in starving the enemas of France ! Will the people of the United States thus manifest their sense of in :nries, in becoming the passive instruments and TOOLS OF FRANCE ! He said it Was not. Ilia puoiic sentiment. He said that as a caveat cr precautionary measure, there can be no necessity for she last section and tiie penalties contained therein, unless, instead of a pmcuraor, it is intended as a substitute for, vui. He said he had ether considerations to submit, moat of which are a detail ot facts which occurred in a conference between the Committee of Foreign Relation and the se cretary of stste, which host ever, he would for th<* present defer. He would observe, in the words of the gen rlenun font Nc\v-Yerk, (Mr. Stow) that war is not to bo considered as a matter of plea sure. He hoped we should not act ;.s a thoughtless young couple sometimes do, who are 10 a hurry to marry lint, and then look around to get some hing to make the pot boil. He beset chcd die house to act with sobriety and solemn consideration. Whatever his opinion might be about the war, he said, if he was not in the* habit cf withholding his . pledges, if he should unavoidably plunge into •me, believed he should r.ot be backward in affording his aid to bring it to an honorable owe Hut he did not believe war to he the object, an.l his reason was because there is no preparation for it. Mr. CLAY (the Speaker) said, the gentle man, fix m Virginia, need not l..ve reminded its in the manner he lias of that Rejig- who watches and surrounds us. lie thought from this sentiment we ought to draw very different conciusiohs than that what the gentleman had— lt ought to inliu cnee us to that patriotism, to that spirit, and display those qualifications, which are so ho norable* to the human character. The gentle roan ink:., what new cause of war, he would sk whr.t old cause of war is unavenged ’ He agreed the afiinr of the Cbtxvqxake is settled, but W.bv i to ptrrlize the spirit of ‘.lie coun try. I’as Greut-Britidn abstained frebi inr prtfisi! gottr reamer-—from ;ltpredating upon rur pt-',.'rty ? He bt*d in his hands a paper giving uu actnont of the capture of the siup’ llmiii:;.:'!, worth, with the cargo, (/.JOO.OOO, [the evst v, A li.tie more liiau iial! Uusj a short time si.tee. and near tu-.r coast, on a vov ;y to l-'ivr.et*. He In Ino doubt bet the late lndi-ui v.r ,*n ti.o Viafci.:<;., was excited I>*. die British ; and what is to ee thought of the oius. -y . V. - v. rent te on .* of our prim; pal < .ti< a,. • o c*:.ei‘.e civil war ? Is this ho* - cause of wa r ? We Bvi complete proof that she v.n down ty tbiiig; .n destroy us; oar rewk tfii: .1 spi.i; .tie our on.y d'-pre-deuce Al *t'*.my‘* lie f It v.urm, he pealed himself u; on 1 i'relii gs, a;should despise himself if he v* • i.at,tu>e if them. Ti c gentleman sms, thore i. i.o cause of war. Mr.RANDOLPH said,in- lu.ttneyei assert ed there was no cause of war, but that there Was no siw cause of War. Mr. CLAY said ttio-v- v/lio re/od for the former embargo, are bound now to vote for war. It ought to have succeeded the termi nation of that measure, which would have Is-en the true policy. He said lie wag at is sue with the gentleman as to the public sen timent. That it is with us, n proved by lire glowing resolutions of fourteen legislatures. He* said there wer ■ no divisions in the south ern ami western state*, federalists anil repub licans were united for war. Mr. RANDOLPH then said, lie wished to state to the committee advtuii of wli.it hap pened before the eoinn.itte of foreign rela tions, in a conference with Mr. .Monroe. Mr. WIDGRRY objected to it, as not in order, and tile Chairman said he thought it irrelevant. Mr. RANDOLPH said, bis object was to ! show that the proposition for the Embargo originally came from that committee, end woo not intended at u mar ineatvre. He thought it relevant, as it was competent to show that the ideas of the Speak- r are wrong. The motion to strike out -tire first section was lost—ayes 35, nocs 70. Mr. Seybert said, that in voting for the several important measures which congress have agreed to this session, he felt himself pledged to go to war; that lie was in favor of an embargo as a precautionary means and pre ■ cursor to v/ar. When lie voted for the 25,000 men be supposed lli< executive intended war, | but he has now such information from a friend 1 in whom lie confides, as leads him to believe that offensive operations arc not meant. We ’ ought to be better prepared before we engage in war. He bad observed in the Baltimore papers, that the British have ordered a squad • ron and 20,000 nien for our cuast. f Mr. Smilie expressed his surprise at the , observations of his friend and colleague: He \ did not know from what quarU r lie had ob tained his information, that the president I does not mean war. Dues he believe lie has all this time been deceiving the legislature l lie had heard but one sentiment from the prcsi ’ dent, whieh is, that -toe must make -war unless Great Britain relents. The president had always supposed that embargo must precede ; war—the only difference lias been as to the time, which lias been tinaliy compromised. The embargo is intended • s a war measure. He would assure les colleague it was intend ed by both the executive and the committee of foreigh relations. 1 hat being now’ up, lie would observe, that at the beginning of the session, he was not so warm for war as many \ were, but lie was for commercial restrictions, lie was not for the 25,000 men ; but as the house have determined otherwise, he would now go to war. If we now recede we shall be a reproach among all nations. Mr. Seybert then spoke, that his intention was to rensl seriously Great Britain; he would he plain ; but he was not for going to w.o* un prepared. When the bill for the 25,0uu men was before the house, it was then declared to he declared to be according to the wishes of tut secretary at war—since that time, the .se cretary has said it was not his wish, from which he concluded it was not the wish of tiie president. Air. Randolph proposed to read from me morinuu m bus possession, of what occurred in the committee of foreigh relations, and a confemaice between tlicm and the secretary of state, which was objected to, Mr. Bassett (chainnan)considered it in or der. Mr Calhoun appealed. The speaker’s decision was confirmed, ayes 60. Mr. Randolph said, it will appear that the ! embargo is not preparatory to war, that is to ; say, it was not unnecessarily so, and of course i not of the character which the speaker has . considered it. From his minutes (among . other facts (it appeared, that Mr. Monroe said ■ to the committee, that the president thought : we ought to declare war before wc adjourn, • unless Great, Britain recedes, of which there i was no prospect—That there was conversu i tiou about an embargo. Mr. Monroe was ask i etl by same of the committee, whether the i president would recommend it by the mts ■ sage, he answered that he would, if be could [ lit assured it would be acceptable to the house. • He also said, Mr. Barlow hail been instruct ed to represent to the French government our i sens? of the injuries received, and to press i upon them our demands for reparation—that ■ if she refused us justice, the embargo would . leave the policy as respects Fiance, and u>- l deed of both countries, in our hands. He was asked, if any essential alu rations would . lie made within OU day s, indeience of our ma • ritime frontier or sea-ports > Mr. M. anawci . ed, that pretty considerable preparations l would be made. He said, New-York was now i “in a respectable state of defence, but not such to resist a terminable fleet—but, that it was not to he expected that such a kind of war would lie carried on. It was replied, that we ■ must expect what commonly happens in wars. , Air. M. said, that although a great cl (stress and ; injury might take place in the one part of the union, it would not essentially affect the po pulation or re sources of die U a ion at large. As to the prepared state of the country, lie said, in case of a declaration of war, the president would not feel himself bound to take upon himself more than his share of the respos.bi ■ lity, Mr, M. said, the unprepared state of the country was the only reason why ulterior measures should be deterred. Mr. Randolph then said, that the step We are about taking is too high a price to pay for flic consistency of gentlemen, who think they bave game too far to recede ; it ; s too expen sive to bolst*. r them up in this way. He ask ed, what nil be the situation of this people ■ in sixty days >. Put your note into the* bank, and see how soon it will be out. M hat will be the condition of this urdiapnv, misguided country ? What would it have been ior (id. 12y, or dOo day s past ? He bail hoped not to have seen the old story of die dog worry mg tin.* cat, S:c. realized Are the majority in con sequence ot having been goaded by the pres s; s, to plunge the people into a v :.c, by bring ing ibe-ni first to tne w hipping posi, and thcJi bv exciting their Spirit. He would assure the house the spirit ot the people is not. Up to it at this lime; if so, there would be no neccs ■ ity- of these pros orations to excite inis false spirit—this kind of Dutch courage. If you mean war, if the spirit of the country is up to it, why have you been spending 5 months ill idle debate. The Speaker (Mr. Clay) called Mr. Ran dolph to order, fer charging the house with spending 5 mouths in kite debate. 1 i e Chairman decided that the expression was not out of order. Mr. V right appealed. The decision of the chairman was confirm ed Hves 50, n a a 49, Mr. Randolph proceeded, and said he w ould inform gentlemen in tins house, that he had known gentlemen not inferior in gallantry, in wisdom, in experience, ui the talents ot a 3 tat, Jinn, to any upon this floor, who have been consigned to oblivion for advocating a wr against the public sentiment. Dxlwe not then say to those gentlemen, the war they advocated was against the public sentiment; In two years from tnis time, the people Will tell you that you rated year consistency at more than it was worth, more than we are willing te pay fcril—that your disgrace is not our disgrace. What said, the people to the projected war twelve years ago > That they would r.ot pay their room;/ and sacrifice their property for your consistency. If it would not discover a want of decorum, lie would a-.k what has become of the licence bill against trading under licences to France, a me asure which was recommended in the President’s message at the beginmng of the 1 ssioit! He said lie understood that the ship Hannibal, which w:u lately captured by the British, sailed under one of those licences, lie does not mean to palliate that capture ; but it is strange that Great Britain should capture our vessels, when we have notified hor that we are about invading fit r terrajirmu. He believed the way war will happen, if it does happen, will be by Great Britain attack ing and perhaps destroying some of our sea ports, which it is calculated will render it popular in this country. The [dan is now to lav an embargo—and the reason is, we have had one, and it has failed. This appears to him to be a nor. ieguetur. Messrs. (irundy and Calhoun said they were not impressed with a recollection of the facts which occurred before the committee offortign relations, in lbe same manner as had keen stated by Mr. Randolph. They did not re - collect that Mr. Mi in* said the embargo would leave the policy, as respects butn bel ligerent;, in our hands. Mr. Porter said he was in favor of an em bargo, as a measure which ought ty precede war: but it is very important that we should be prepared before we commence the war. He did not believe it was possible to commi nee it with safety within four months from this time. Such a measure as an em bargo would be of immense injury to the state of New-York, on account of their flour which had not gone to market. The committee rose and reported the bill without amendment, and the question wa3, shall it be c-ngiossed for a third reading.’ Mr. Quincy then muved.that the injunction of secrecy he taker, off from our proceedings. Mr. Pitkin said there was bill one precen der.t of an emburgx> being passed with closed doors The ayes and nocs were agreed to be taken on Mr. Quincoy’s motion. Mr. Wright then made a question of order on Mr. Quincey’smotion. The Speaker decided it was not in order, another question being before- the house. Mr. Little then moved tin; previous ques tion, which he iooh withdrew. Mr. Stow then expressed his ahum and astonishment at the course we were taking, lie said the country “as wholly unprepared to einiri; a war within the time which had been mentioned. He warned gentlemen of their danger, and the ruin which threatened our defenceless towns. The authority which he had cited ought to have more weight than the hearsays of some young members in this house. The elections of the maratnne parts of tire country will put your places into the possession of your political adver saries. You may be assured you tread on deceitful ground. The intelligent part of the community at the north are against the war. There is no calculating the injury it will be to tlie State of New-York. Mr. Bassett spoke in favor of the measure, and respecting the injuries we have received from Gre at Britain. Mr. Heberts then moved for the previous question. Mr. Shelley called for the ayes and noes. The motion for the previous question was carried, ayes 66, noes 40. The qu. stion was, Shall the bill be engros sed lor a third reading > (parried—ayes 74, noes 39. The question was, On what day shall it be read ? Mr. Grundy moved it be read immediately. Mr. .Macon proposed to-morrow. Mi*. Quincy said (it then being half-past seven o’clock in the evening) he had not been able to take any part hi the debate; that the measure which had thus been flurried, was extremely interesting to his immediate con stituents, and he was very* ahxious to express his sentiments upon it—but he was so fatigued with tlie tedious sitting, that he was unable to do it this evening, and hoped the house would indulge him until to-morrow, lie would not condescent to debate such a ques tion in the present state of the house, and he asked for tile ayes and l.ots on Air. Alacon’s motion, which was agreed to be taken. Air. D. R. Williams said he was desirous to grant the request of the gentleman from Mas sachusetts. It was in his opinion a Very rea sonable one. The deportment of the other side cf the house, had, during tlie whole of the session been very gentlemanly towards the majority—and, sir, said he, will you now refuse to give them an opportunity to express Uie.r sentiments upon a measure, which, in their view, is so important ? He said that poli cy o-.t the part of the majority ought to dic tate the indulgence as.Xetl for. The majority now stand on high ground—what will be-said, and what will be the consequence of a refusal ? Wc shall lose the ground on which We now stand. Mr. Macon was of tlie same opinion—he thought the niinqiny had acted with more propriety than lie had ever knew in a mino n’y Mr. Wright objected although he was wil ling’ to acknowledge tlie minority had conduct ed with propriety. Air. Nelson said it appeared to birr, that ace\ding to the importance of subjects, so is tnii* precipitancy, is the minority thus to he dragooned into this measure ! For one, lie wished to reflect upon it. The first intima tion he had of this measure, was tlie Mes sage. If it is intended :>s a precautionary measure, as the precursor to war, as some gentlemen have treated it, it is a question of doubt ii: his mind, lie thought it better to arm our merchantmen—-to gi ant letters of ’ marque and reprisal—and repeal our non-im portation law. We have already suffered enough Ui.dei our restrictive system. H we pasa the bill to-night, L cannot be a law until the other branch act upon it. When we are _goingto v..r, it will be well to know that we have the spontaneous support of more thai. one half or the community. Mr Alston said he would have vt t*d for the motion, if the gentleman had no. asked f,,r the ayes and noes ; but as he app'V.s de sirous to marshal one aide, of tlie houss ‘.;;a :i3t the other, he was not disposed to gratify him in his request. Mr. Randolph made a few more remarks. . Mr. Widgery declared war to he inevitable, and ought not to be delayed—on this account he was against postponing the bill until to morrow If we do it stall, it ought to be speedily. It is not to be believed that argu ment will change a singlevote. The respon sibility is on the majority. The question on reading to-morrow was negatived, 57 to 51 It was then read a third time—and the question, Shall the bill pass ! it was errried, ayes 70, noes 41. BKRLIJ* U MIL.IN DECREES. The ship Geueral Lincoln, Cofilri, owned in Boston, on hr passage from Sheerness to Falmouth, in hailast, for orders, tvas taken on the 18th Febru ary last, by a French privateer, and carried into Boulogne, from whence Captain Coffin writes, under date of the 23d, that “ he expeeted she w ould lie condemned.'” Vet the Freuch apo logists will have it that the French decrees are repealed. Host on Taper. Chamber of Commerce. M a meeting of the Members of this in stitution, the following, was submit ted for consideration. TtjKTHEREAS the fees of the Bas- Ts hour Master, and Health Offi cer, of the Port of Savannah, w ere un expectedly raised by an Act of the Le gislature of the state, in the year 1804-, lo the rate for each Officer, of two cents per ton on every American Vessel, and four cents per ton on every Foreign Vessel, whieh entered the port. And tv hercas, these fees are not only op pressive in their operation, hut truly exorbitant when compaied with those of every other port of the Union; and affording moreover a remuneration so infinitely beyond any services perform ed by eaeh officer, as to he deemed, {"especially as respects the Health Os- by those most competent to judge, nothing more nor les3 than complete finicures; things that in their nature are, and ever should be at variance wit)) Republican Institutions. And, whereas these facts being re presented to the Legislature of this State in the year 1310, a bill passed the Senate reducing these fees of office one half, but declaring the suine inopera tive until sanctioned by aa act of Con gj-es,>< and the said biil according to the best information, passed the House of Representatives likewise, but with an amendm&nt, vesting the appoint ment, of thu officers in the Corpora tion of Savannah instead of the Legis lature, and the disagreement upon this point alone,prevented the bill from be coming a law. And it thus appearing to have been the sense of the Legislature of the state, when most recently considering the subject ol‘ the collection of these fees, that sanction of Congress was re quisite to establish their constitution ally—and an act of Congress saue- Tioning the law of the State cf the year 1804, did pass on the 2d march, 1811, for one year, the shortness of which period would itself seem to im ply the taeit disapprobation of the Gen eral government. Takingthese facts into considerat ion, and being firmly persuaded, much of the preference given by ship owners in Charleston over this pot t, may be attri buted to the difference of the port char ges, for there the Harbor Master’s fees are hut one dollar for eaeli vessel, the Health officer paid either by the city or the state, and there is no heavy river tonnage, it cannot he imputed to the members of this Chamber as an act of disrespect to either the State or Gener al Government, to resist the payment of the late exorbitant rate of fees. Therefore Itesolved. That the Mem bers of this Chamber shall refuse lo pay any other fees lo the Harbor Mas ter or Health Officer than those for- 1 merly established by the Laws of I lie State, of 1787 and 1789, namely, To tlie Harbor Master, five shillings, or one dollar and seven cents for every square rigged vessel and three shillings and sixpence, or seventy-five cents for every schooner or sloop. To the Health Officer, three dollars for every vessel from a foreign port, which he shall according to Law, board at five fathom hole, and to whieh he shall grant a certificate of Health. Resolved f That the President forth, with transmit the foregoing proceed ings to the representation of the State of Georgia in Senate aud House of Re presentatives, praying them to exert their influence in opposing the passage of a Law, confirming the present exor bitant Fees of office of the said Har bour Master and Health Officer of this Port. die solved. That the foregoing pro ceedings be published, onee in each cf the Gazettes of the city for the infor mation of persons not members of the Chamber, Extract from the Minutes. JOHN HUNTER, Seeretarv. AMERICAN PATRIOT. Sd r.LWWM. MAY l, 1312. THE manner in which a nation acts in emergencies which demand dr. cision anil energy, stamps upon it a character which extrinsic ciscumstan ces may render a libel. If it comeg forward and meets events with unde viating fortitude, and maintains an ar duous conflict, for invaded rights, ip honor is then pure, its name unsullied its character bright. But if it shrinks from the tumult of war, throws ashl the armour of defence, and retires from tlie field of battle, in dangerous aiul mor-ientuous times, then is its crest in deed fallen, its name stained by the imputation of pusillanimity, and ii, spirit injured by unworthy measures. That the first is the true character of this country, let the events of the three first administrations determine, that the other is an insult to the nation, am! a calumny upon its name, let the wild projects and experiments of the two last theoretic partisans decide. When danger lowered in the H:a veus, and clouds of adversity thicken ed around us, dark’ning the prospect of peace, and threatning the disaster of war, WASHINGTON stood calm and unmoved, prepared for every e vent, atiil maintained among the na tions of the earth, the elevated dignity of our ow n but credulity listened to the er.3liaro:ng txle3 of dace;; tiou, and a sad reverse is the consequence. Ev ery (Ling appears to lie hurled from its base and to be replaced by its op posite quality. What formerly was viewed as degradation ar.d disgrace, a philosophic wand now converted into dignity and justice: what was esteem ed as dishouoiable posiiiairirity,crim inal negligence and base subserviency, the fancy of a visionary, now painted as necessary prudence, wise economy and bold impartiality; measures cor.*’ sidered as derogatory to the spirit f. free Jen. a timid, mi oblique, ami Hu manly policy, denominated efficient amll powerful warfare. The coni : nental system is not util I unworthy of freemen, but insulting til their spirit. It palsies and deadens their enterprise, and trammels them! with fetters cf slavery. It control?! their ardor, and curtails their Tndepen-\ deuce. It familial is-s the restraints! of despotism, and generates servility oil disposition. It is a violation of their sovereign rights, a degradation of their character, a wide stretch to tyranny, and a prostration of the constitution. It assimilates the freemen of this out’ happy clime, to tlie humble slaves oi” Gallia’s shore. It robs and disarms the high spirit of indignant feeling; ami acute sensibility of the means t redress. It i.- destructive to nati</aai prosperity, distressing to all sections of the country and degrading ta the eyes of an observing world. It cau only be reconciled to pusillanimity, and approved by a sycophantic race. This nation disdains such a miserable, servile system, so destructive lo liber ty, so fraught with infamy. The cant of philosophy, the profession of econo my, and pretended regard for justice induced the honeyt, hut credulous u> confide to theiv deceptions ; and they spurn them. The vt it is rent astmtlei. and imposition is exposed to censure and contempt. Who are they that advocate thi con tinental system, or the Nr polecn code, or slavery ? None hut the tool? of a faction, or the dupes of demagogues. The mercantile portion of community deprecate the ignoble shackles tm their enterprising industry, whieh pilfers from them (heir adventroiis ingenuity. The agricultural interest now perceive their intimate connection with com merce, and deplore the miserable effect of a policy, which consumes in id!* sloth the fruits of their industry ; d*t artisan laments the destruction of that vivifying circulation in society, whirl* renders useless his ast, unavailing invention, and of no value his ingenue ty :—the sailor flies from his own, B the fostering protection es other w ’