Atlanta semi-weekly journal. (Atlanta, Ga.) 1898-1920, October 25, 1918, Image 1
GTjc Mfaiiiu Sour nal. VOLUME XX. No Peace With Kaiser Now or Later — » SEVERAL VILLAGES TAKEN IN BRITISH ADVANCE Armistice Will Mean Foe’s Surrender BRITISH PBESSIIK ON ALONG 20-MILE LINE BELOW VALENCIENNES Six Thousand Prisoners and Many Guns Taken by Haig ■Wednesday French Hold Gains East of Sambre Canal * WITH THE ALLIED ARMIES DC FRANCE AND BELGIUM. Oct .24. <ll A. M_> —(By the Associated Press.) Hard fightinc is in progress all along the front of the British attack. The Germans ererywhere are offering stub born resistance. NEW YORK. Oct. 24.—(Summary of European Cables to the Associated Press.) —Field Marshal Haig's third ani fourth armies, having smashed through the outer defenses of the strategically important German line south of Valen ciennes. continue successfully to ham mer their way toward Maubege and Mons. Today's attack started from the new front gained Wednesday in the ad vance of between three and four miles on a front of 15 miles in which more than €.OOO prisoners and many guns are reported to have been taken. The enemy is resisting stubbornly, but the British are forging ahead, capturing villages and other Important points. West of Maubege the British have taken the village of Beaudigntes. one and one-half miles southwest of Le Quesnoy. the most important strong hold defending Maubeuge on the west. In the same region, they have crossed the natural barrier of the Ecalllon river and rapidly are placing Valen ciennes in a pocket. To Outflank Valenciennes Apparently, the British are not de sirous of taking Valenciennes by fight ing the Germans in the streets of the town, but plan to outflank it. .The town now is partly surrounded and the menace to it increased by the advance on the south and the'capfire nf the entire Raismes forest to the north. • The British thrust undoubtedly has badly shaken the German defenses south of Valenciennes which are so important to the security of the German line north ward to the Dutch border and south and east to the Meuse. Unless the ene my can hold the British attacks today, it would seem they would have to con tinue their retreat in Belgium and also give up ground south and east of the Oise. French Progress While the British are»attacking north of the Sambre canal to the Scheldt, the French ahve begun an offensive south of the Oise. The Sambre canal has been crossed east of Grand Verly and the French have maintained their gains against strong German counter attacks. Between the Serre and the Oise and fur ther east the French maintain their pressure and have gained south or Montoornet. Infantry lighting has died down east of the Aisne in the region of Vouziers, the Germans having failed in strong ef forts Tuesday and Wednesday to dis lodge the French from important height positions. General Gouraud now com mands the important defiles north and south of the great forest of Boult, nortn of the Argonne. On the front west of the Meuse the Americans maintain the important gains made Wednesday and are in a posi tion to bring about a German retire ment on the center and left of the line. Wednesday's gains were mostly on the extreme right and outflank the enemy front westward toward the Argonne. • FRENCH AND ITALIANS CAPTURE MONT SINEMOL ROME, Oct. 14. —French and Italian troops in a powerful local attack on the Sette Communi plateau last night penetrated far into the enemy lines, capturing the important peak of Mont Sisemol (three miles east of Asiagot, the Italian war office announced to day. Twenty-three officers and 707 men were made prisoners. BRITISH LESS THAN TWO MILES FROM LE QUESNOY LONDON, oct. 24.—The attack was renewed this morning on the whole front between the Sambre-oise canal and the Scheldt, Field Marshal Haig announced. Continuing their progress on this front yesterday evening, British troops crossed the EcaiHon river less than two miles west of Le Quesnoy, cap turing the village of Beaudfgnies. The villages of Neuville and Saiesches also were occupied. A strong German counter attack op posite X andigies was repulsed. Raismes forest, north of Valen ciennes. was cleared of the enemy, and three villages were captured in that region. There was local fighting west of Tournai. without material change - “In sharp fighting yesterday evening on the front south of Valenciennes, we drove the enemy from Vendegits wood, and captured Neuville. Salesches ana Keaud gnies. securing crossings of the Ecaillon river at the latter place. •'At the close of the day the enemy counter attacked vigorously opposite Vendegies. supporting the infantry with strong artillery fire. They were re pulsed. 'This morning the attack was re sumed on the whole front between the Sambre-Oise canal and the Scheldt. “North of Valenciennes wc cleared the enemy from the forest of Raismes and captured the villages of Thiors, Hau ten ve and Thun. •“There was determined local flght- (Coztinued on Page 7, Column 7.) Full Associated Press Service WILSON HAS TIED MAX AND PASSED HIM ON TO FOCH BT X W. T. MASON. NEW YORK, Oct. 24. —President Wil son has tied Prince Maximilian hand and foot and passed him over to Marshal Foch for judgment. The new German chancellor put Into office by the kaiser to challenge America to a peace offensive has been as igno miniously defeated by the pen as Von Hindenburg by the sword. Attempting to overmatch President Wilson at note writing has proven a costly failure. The German government now stands reveal ed before 1 the German people as unable to negotiate a peace that can save any part of Germany's military machine. An understanding of this fact is ab solutely necessary on the part of the German people before a safe peace is possible. The American answer to Prince Maximilian means the German nation must itself become civilization's hostage for righting the wrong that Germany has done to humanity. This is ’the basic result of the epistolary ex changes between Berlin and Washing ton. The German nation's responsibility for the acts of its autocrats is thus fixed. That is why Germany will not be permitted to enter a peace confer ence until Marshal Foch and the allies' naval advisers have imposed conditions that will differ in no respect from un conditional surrender. The only way the German people can save any part of the wreck of their fortunes is by overthrowing kaiserism of their own will and power. To the present there has been no democratic movement in Germany, because the tentative reforms have been staged by the kaiser from above and have not been made secure by popular uprisings. In stead of demanding their lull democratic prerogatives the German people are waiting to take as few rights as the kaiser thinks safe to give them in the interest of saving the Hohenzollern dy nasty. No democracy was ever permanently founded on voluntary gifts of freedom from an absolutist monarch. If the people themselves do not make secure their charter of human rights by their own majestic might, they may lose over night what they have not participated in creating. Since under any conditions of peace the German nation must first disarm there will be better terms if the disarm ing is done by a self-democratized na tion. The longer the process takes, how ever. the more drastic will be the peace conditions. The kind of peace the American people intend to demand will depend on the extent of the sacrifices thev are called upon to end ire. The attitude of the American democ racy during the period of note writing by Prince Maximilian demonstrates be yond doubt that if Germany tries to tight it out to the end it will be the end of Germany. • GERMANS HOLD TO VALENCIENNES BY FLOODING COUNTRY WITH THE ALLIED ARMIES IN FRANCE AND BELGIUM. Wednesday, Oct. 23. —(By the Associated Press.) — British troops have reached virtually tho whole canal bank northeast of Val enciennes. The Germans have broken down the banks and opened the sluice gates northeast and southwest of the city and have flooded vast stretches of the country In an effort to delay the British advance. The marshy lowlands on the east side of the canal opposite the Raisnes forest resembles a great lake. It is not probable that the city can be approached from the southwest because of similar flooded conditions. The British, however, liave fought their way into the city from the west and there’ have been sharp encounters in the streets between patrols. Fire from the German artillery has been generally weak, it being strong only on villages and towns in this vicinity. Many civilians are still in these places. Heavy shells dropped with regularity for several hours today in Denain, which is full of civilians. Without doubt, many were killed and wounded, and the same condition is probably true in other towns. Valenciennes still contains many civilians. FURTHER CUTS IN SUGAR SUPPLY FOR NEXT TWO MONTHS Restrictions upon the use of sugar by manufacturers will be even more rigid than heretofore during the months of November and December, according to announcement made Thursday by Dr. Andrew M. Soule, federal food adminis trator for Georgia- Soft drink manufacturers will be al lowed 35 per cent of their normal sugar consumption. They have been allowed 50 per cent of their normal supply. Ice cream manufacturers are put on the same basis, as well as practically all makers of beverage syrups, molasses, confections. chewing gum. chocolate, cocoa, cough drops, malted milk, soda water and similar articles. Candy and chocolate manufacturers are being instructed to give preference to the army, navy. Red Cross, Y. M. C. A. and Salvation Army, and sugar need ed to care for these orders is to come out of their regular allotment except when furnished for overseas use. Sugar allotments for household use are to be held rigidly within the two pund per month per person limits. FBEBH GERMAN BRUTALITY BRUGES. Tuesday, Oct. 22. —A fresh and striking instance of the inhumanity of the German authorities has been dis covered by Belgian soldiers in liberated "territory. They found a large number i of Russian soldiers, who were captured three years ago. at work with German labor companies. The Russians had , been treated with the utmost brutality and forced to labor behind the firing line. They were utterly ignorant of the Russen revolution, the death of Em peror Nicholas, or the Brest-Litovsk treaty of peace. GE«NEWS?APERS SCORE MAXIMILIAN IND KAISER WILHELM Socialist Paper Says “If the Emperor Must Go, Let Him Go at Once” —Address of Chancellor Is Criticised PARIS, Oct. 24.—Emperor William conferred Monday with all the mem bers of the government, talking at length with each individual, and then harangued them in a body, says a dispatch from Zurich to the Journak Thus far the German newspapers have printed nothing concerning the em peror’s speech. The war cabinet held another long meeting Tuesday. The address of the chancellor to the reichstag is criticized sharply by a majority of the newspapers. The ex tracts frfcm the speech circulated by the Wolff bureau, the semi-official news 1 agency, are to some extent garbled, I while other passages bear so little re- I semblance to what Prince Maximilian ! said that they appear to have been in vented. The Socialist newspapers, the Zurich dispatch continues, are particularly out spoken. The Fraenkische Tagesport, of Nuremberg, Bavaria, says the em peror must not think the German peo ple are going to continue the war for months to please him. “If the emperor must go," It adds, “let him go at once.” r The correspondent reports that the chancellor and the pan-Germans are working actively toward the formation of a national defense government. He says a* proclamation to the people ex horting them to carry on the war to the utmost has been drafted with the help of General Ludendorff, and that he understands it will be published as soon as President Wilson’s reply has been received. It is expected in Berlin, the corre- j spondent adds, that the president will' not allow himself to be flouted and | ridiculed by the existing German gov-, eminent HUN DEMOCRATIZATION SPREADING, REPORT SAYS COPENHAGEN. Oct. 24. —The demo cratization of Germany is spreading I through the federal states, according to I a special dispatch printed in the Ber i lingske Tidende sent to that publication ■ by its correspondent at Berlin. At a meeting of the crown council at Dresden yesterday the question of ask- ' ing the Socialists to join the govern ment was considered. The Baden gov-1 eminent met at Karlsruhe to consider i the abolition of the three-class franchise svstem and introduction ot the propor tional franchise. Wuerttemburg also is said to be considering whether that government's representatives in the fed eral council shall not henceforth re ceive instructions direct from the repre sentatives elected by the people rather than from the Wuerttemburg govern ment. MAX’S TALK NOT HELPING TO DEMOCRATIZE GERMANY LONDON, Wednesday, Oct. 23.—Com menting upon the address of Prince Maximilian of Baden, the German im-; perial chancellor, in the reichstag on I Tuesday, the Star says: “Didactic interjections by the chancel lor will not impress President'Wilson as I being a real contribution to the demo-. cratization of Germany. There is no word in the speech about the restoration to France of Alsace-Lorraine, which was one of President Wilson’s 'fourteen points.’ ’’ « The Pall Mall Gazette says that the speech shows very clearly that the im perial chancellor is not ready to accept I (.he only terms which can end the war, , and concludes that the German armies must be far more completely beaten •'before our reward can come securely in view.” The Westminster Gazette says that I democratic Germany must bear the bur- I dens of autocratic Germany. DEBATE FOLLOWS SPEECH OF MAX IN REICHSTAG BASEL, Oct. 24.-—(Havas.)—After the 1 ■ speech of Prince Maximilian, Deputy i Karl Herold, in the name of the Cen trist party, read a statement in the reichstag asking that the reform of the constitution of the empire be ex- i tended so that war cannot be declared ■ I without the consent of the reichstag. : • He asked that if peace with the en- ' I tentc allies is not possible, the gov-, i ernment will have to call on the last I man for the defense of Germany. Deputy Ebert, majority Socialist, de | dared the German people would no longer permit themselves to be without! ' the right to decide their own fate. Fried | rich Naumann, Radical, said he consid- I ered peace impossible by military means and that Germany must use her diplo® rnatic sources to end the war. Count von Westarp, Conservative, de clared his party would not vote for the constitutional reforms proposed by the chancellor because it considered them | dangerous. CURED HER FITS Mrs. Paul Gram, residing at 916' Fourth street. Milwaukee. Wis., recent ly gave out the following statement: I I “I had suffered with Fits (Epilepsy) for , over 14 years. Doctors and medicine did j 'me no good. It seemed that 1 was be- ' yond all hope of relief,, when at last I I secured a preparation that cured me. sound and well. Over 8 years have passed and the attacks have not re- i turned. I wish everyone who suffers' from this terrible disease would write I R. P. N. Lepso, 13 Island Avenue, Mil- ; waukee, and ask for a bottle of the I same kind of medicine which he gave' me. He has generously promised to I send it postpaid, free to anyone who I writes him.’’—(Advt.) ATLANTA, GA., FRIDAY, OCTOBER 25, 1918. NO REST FOR HUNS A a. r ‘ \ . zwa/ * GHENT- jJZ/ N. iJB ‘’G'v-t-i v . - .frt ./.A, f {ALOSr 1 5 J J.OUVAIN \ J Yrussels < < WATERLOO TQWNAt , ft KM —~l_|| |g vtx \ S’* / f f WOY£> — - ~ UMQHTCOKHtt ■'o-RSEDAN—, scali of \ It THE MAIN POINTS of interest today on the long battle line in France and Belgium, where the allies are constantly adding to the territory re deemed from the Germans are indicated by the arrows on the heavy black line running from the Dutch frontier to east of Verdun. The British are striking along the Scheldt, north and south of Valenciennes, and east of Solesmes and La Cateau, the French between the Oise and Serre rivers, and the Americans east of Grand-Pre and Bantheville. Six thousand prisoners and many guns were reported taken by the British yesterday in their new drive. The west battle front line now apparently extends as follows: Eede, west of Eecloo, east of Somerghem, Deynze, Waereghem, east of Dottignies, west of Tournai, west of Antoing, west of<3onde, Valenciennes, west of Le Quesnoy, west of Landrecies, east of Wassigny, west of Guise, Ribemont, south of Crecy-sur-Serre, Froidmpnt, north of Sissone, south of Chateau Porcien, south of Rethel, south of Attigny, east of Vouziers, north of Grand-Pre, north of Brieulles, Beaumont. AMERICANS AGAIN ASSUME OFFENSIVE ON WHOLE FRONT WITH THE AMERICAN ARMIES IN FRANCE, Oct 23.—(Night.)—The Americans, after repulsing" a series of heavy counter attacks, have again as sumed the offensive on the whole front between the Grand Pre and the Meuse. In a number of closely allied local operations they have occupied several positions which were temporarily ceded to the Germans. These advances have again carried them north of Grand Pre, Bantheville and Breiulles. Two new enemy divisions have been thrown into this front and there are now' more than 30 German divisions opposing the Amer icans. Reports have been received indicating that the German artillery fire on the entire west front has reached the low est mark since the first few months of the war. British. French and Ameri cans declare there is a remarkable pre ponderance of rifle and machine gun wounds over shell wounds. The former injuries are light in the majority of cases and permit an early return of the casualties to the line. On the other hand, the Boches are smfering heavily from artillery fire and their losses greatly exceed those of the allies in normal defensive fighting. These conditions, coupled with their lowering morale, which is inevitable in view of their peace drive, add to the ex planations of the German desire for an armistice. L. S. AIRMEN HEAVILY BOMB GERMAN POSITIONS WITH THE AMERICAN ARMIES IN FRANCE. Oct. 23.—(Night.)—The first real sunshine in weeks resulted today in the most bitter fighting in the air. The sky was full of airplanes. The big expeditions bombed the Ger man rear areas this afternoon. More than 150 American planes in one for mation, including 60 bombing machines, swept over the Buzancy region. Tons of explosives were dropped. Railway yards and woods where troops were concentrated were deluged with bombs. In the past twenty-four hours. Lieu tenant Chambers, of Tennessee, has brought down two hostile nlanes, and Lieutenants Rickenbacker, Fevers and Wright and Captain Grant one each. Lieutenant Woolsey, Manning, Humes and Colson encountered, and brought down four Fokkers in flames, escap ing without injury. COMMISSION CLAIMS POWER TO CHANGE M’ADOO’S RATES WASHINGTON. Oct. 24.—Tho inter state commerce commission today as sorted its authority to alter railroad freight rates initiated by Director Gen eral McAdoo, even without affirmative showing that they are wrong, and an nounced that the assumption that such rates are presumed to be right and just is incorrect. - BRITISH CABINET MEETS TO DISCUSS WILSON’S ANSWER LONDON, Oct. 24.—The British cabi net met this morning presumably to dis cuss President Wilson’s reply to Ger many. The reply was received by the foreign office from the British embassy at Washington. s Chateau-Thierry Veterans Arrive at McPherson Thirty-three veterans, members of the American expeditionary forces, arrived at the general hospital at Fort McPher son Wednesday afternoon, having been wounded in the Chateau-Thierry opera tions on July 15. Despite the fact that their wounds I are serious, the boys are undismayed »nd most of them are able to hobble about with the aid of crutches or canes. Only two are unable to walk at all. U. S.-CANADIAN CASUALTIES OTTAWA, Oct. 24.—Americans serv ing with the Canadian forces in Eu rope, named in today’s casualty list. Include: Killed in action: P. Weathers, Bir mingham, Ala. Wounded: H. Osborne, Suffolk, Va. Ill: J. Crawford. Fort Davis. Ala. THANTC CONSUL GENERAL LONDON. Wednesday, Oct. 23.—Lib erated British prisoners passing through Sofia on their way to Saloniki speak gratefully of the work done by the American consul general at Sofia in their behalf, according to a dispatch . to the Mail. Details of Armistice, As Reported, Impose Virtual Surrender WASHINGTON, Oct. 24.—Marshal Foch, together with American and allied commanders, left by President Wilson to apply armistic terms, have agreed upon a course tantamount to Germany’s unconditional surrender if they are accepted. From an authoritative source it was learned today these terms are essentially as follows: 1— Evacuation of Alsace-Lorraine. 2 Evacuation of Prussian Poland. 3 Cessation of all munition-mak ing to be insured by committees of allied officials who will be installed in all factories at Essen and at other points. 4 Surrender of the submarine fleet. 5 Occupation of all German bat tleships by allied naval officers. DETAILS OF HSTICE UNOFFICIALLYREPORTED ARE PEACE GUARANTEES WASHINGTON, Oct. 24.—N0 armistice, except under conditions ot surrender. No peace with the kaiser and his war lords, now or later. Thus President Wilson has given in advance his own final decision in informing the new spokesmen of Germany that he has acceded to their re quest that he take up with the allies their plea for an armistice and peace • negotiations. The president’s reply to the latest German note has gone on Its way to Berlin. It was delivered to Frederick Oederlin, the Swiss charge d’affaires here, last night at 9 o’clock and soon afterward was on the cables in plain English, no time being lost to convert the president’s uncompromising sen-' tcnces into code. Apparently the exchanges which had been in progress be tween Washington and the allied capitals since thd wireless version of the German cortimunication was picked up Monday terminated late in the after noon, enabling the president to reply hours after the official text had been delivered. • Assurances of the present authorities at Berlin that they represent the German people, that they accept the conditions of peace he had laid down and that the German armed forces on land and sea will observe the rules of civilized warfare, are accepted by the president only as changing the situation sufficiently to warrant him in formally submitting the questions involved to the nations with which the United States is associated in the war. Wilson’s Reply The text of President Wilson's note follows in full: "From the Secretary of State to the Charge D’Affaires ad interim in Charge of German Interests in the United States: “The secretary of staff makes public the following: The statement follows: "Department of State, Oct. 23, 1918. "Sir: I have the honor to ac knowledge the receipt of your note of the 22d transmitting a communi cation under date of the 20th from the German government and to ad vise you that the president has in structed me to reply thereto as fol lows: “Having received the solemn and explicit assurance of the German government that it unreservedly ac cepts the terms of peace laid down in his address to the congress of the United States on the Bth of Jan uary, 1918, and tne principles of settlement enunciated in his subse quent addresses, particularly the address of the 27th of September, and that it desires to discuss the details of their application, and that tliis wish and purpose emanate, not from those who have hitherto dic tated German policy and conducted the present war on Germany’s be half, but from ministers who speak lor the majority of the reichstag * and for an overwhelming majority of the German people, and having received also the explicit promise of the present German government that the humane rules of civilized warfare will be ebserved both on land and sea by the German armed forces, the president of the United States feels that be cannot demine to take up with the governments with which the government of the United States is associated the question of an armistice. He’ deems it his duty to say again, however, that the only armistice he would feel justified in submitting for consideration would be one which should leave the United States and the powers as sociated with her in a position to enforce any arrangements they may be entered into an dto make a re newal of hostilities on the part of Germany impossible. The president has, therefore, transmitted his cor respondence with the present Ger man authorities to the governments with which the government of the United States is associated as a belligerent, with the suggetsion that, if those governments are dis posed to effect peace upon the terms and principles indicated, their military advisers and the mil itary advisers of the United States be asked to submit to the govern ments associated against Germany the necessary terms of such an armistice as will fully protect the interests of the peoples involved and ensure to the associated govern ments the unrestricted power to safeguard and enforce the details of the peace to which the German government has agreed, provided they deem such an armistice pos sible fro mthe military point of view. Should such terms of armi stice be suggested, their acceptance by Germany will afford the best concrete evidence of her unequiv ocal acceptance of the terms and principles of peace from which the whole action proceeds. The president would deem him self lacking in candor did he not point ont in the fr.mkest possible terms the reason why extraordinary safeguards must be demanded. Sig nificant and important as the con stitutional changes seem to be which are spoken of by the Ger man foreign secretary in his note of the 20th of October, it does not ap pear that the principle of a gov ernment responsible to the German people has yet been fully worked out or that any guarantees either exist or are in contemplation that the alternations of principle and of practice now partially agreed upon will be permanent. Moreover, it (Continued on 3, Column 6.) NUMBER 113. In doing this, without mincing words, he tells these authorities and through them the German people, that the only acceptable guarantee of their words must be submission to terms of an ar mistice that will make It impossible for Germany to renew hostilities; that the • kaiser still holds the power to control the empire and that until he and his autocrats are our surrender and not peace negotiations must be demanded. While this ultimatum Is sinking home In Germany, the allied government will be preparing for the next move, which lies with them, acting in harmony with the United States. First there is to be determined, as the president asks, whether the allies are willing to effect peace on the con ditions enunciated by him and accept ed by Germany. If they do, the ques tion of an armistice will bo submitted to the military advisers of all the co belligerents and when the necessary conditions to render the German mili tary machine powerless for harm have been formulated, the program will be forwarded to Berlin. One point that those in the confi dence of the president emphasized to day is that the president and the United States government now are through with separate dealings with the German authorities. The whole situation is before the co-belligerent governments and future announcements will be of the United States and the allied governments acting in concert. Discussion centered here today on the probable terms of armistice which may be lormulated by the allied and American | military aavisers aicer me allied sov erumenus nave considered the German proposals transmitted by President vViison. It was generally assumed by army officers mat the president already has ascertained the willingness of the allied governments to submit the matter to tne military men. Military opinion here is that Mr. Wil son has expressed the basic idea upon wuich an immediate armistice can be reached. The terms to render the Ger man military power on land and sea absolutely impotent must be worked out by the supreme war council. It will be the mission of the military advisers to translate the general princi ples into concrete terms of fortresses to be occupied, submarine bases to be, : placed under guard, munitions plants to be dismantled and strategic rail lines to be secured against German use. ' Since an armistice on allied terms means { an end of the war, attention also must i ~ be given to demobilization of the Ger- 1 J man army, in itself a long process, since ’ - the great force could not be turned back > - to civil life *bver night. Machinery Exists The machinery tor formulation of the terms already exists. The military and g naval boards of the supreme war coun cil at Versailles furnish the natural avenue for the assessing of the views of the military leaders and bringing them into harmony in a definite state ment of the conditions upon which fight- | ing would come to an end. Marshal Foch, as suprme commander, and Gen erals Petain, Haig, Pershing, Diaz and • Gillian, the Belgian chief of staff, are j ex-officio members of the army board. The admirals commanding the four n great navies, British, French, American ; and Italian, are ex-officio members of the naval board. The president proposes that the terms to be drawn up by these military and navai agencies are to be submitted to the respective governments associated against Germany for ratification befne?: they are given to -the German ment. The supreme war council, cons posed of the premiers of the allies, and of President Wilson, probably would . pass upon the program since it is only armistice conditions and not peace trea- fl ties which are to be considered. Discussion of Terms _ As to the terms themselves "the situ ation on land so far as the western front is concerned, appears simple. To make certain that the U-boat fleets are put out of action, however, by any a terms except the surrender of the sub- | marines themselves appears more difli- a cult. • Occupation of Helgoland might serve to bottle up both the submarines and the German high seas fleet so far as . £ the North sea outlets are concerned, but ? there is another gateway, via the Kiel | canal and the Skagg-erak, passing be tween neutral waters. On the western front, which domi- i (Continued on Page 3, Column •.) g, .