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Testimony anil Documents, 1 ® t November, I8I9. Can you State
u 1 whether there wus not another paper en
closed in that letter ?
he Sto sun Bout I'arottrm,
¥ lcl. on ti.'l»u»-:-day next, the *4in nisi ci.m
mence runnoig bet ec Savin.nah unci
anictuicler landing, opposite Rotiertville. 8 C
*ave Bolton’s central wlitaf very 'flend y, j
i wlitttt
, at 6 o'
’clock A M-ar-j M ,„.„ ri
jrave Bolton’ 1
riiur.day and Saturday
hve at ‘aracmicier the 8"me days at 7, l*. M
BeiUrnitiR— Leave Puracliucler every Wed lies-
&ay, Friday ami Sunday, at 7 o clock A. M. and
teach savannah at 4 o’clock, t’ M
, She will lake Passengers and Freight to and
from Itobeuville, S C—also, on her way up amt
flown, to and from I’tn ysburg, Kbenescr,Sisters’
my, and Tuckasoekii g.
stir will emitimie to touch at Purysburg eve-
Iry day, < xc-pt Monday, at her usual hour going
land returning.
[ Passengers will b« provided with Breakfast
land Homer on board .
By this arrangement ihe.Steam Boat convey-
lance connected willi.i' e Savannah and Augusta
(line ot'stages is expended trom Savannah to Rob*
ertvill ,SCi
june 24 tUl
ON THIS MEMORIAL OF Ml NUN liOWAUDS
[conxinued.]
Q I)i l you consider the funds of the United
f ates safer hi the hands of the Receiver than
r» the Bank of Kdwardsville, Ibr ninety days ?
A. 1 considered the funds, ut that time, aa ate
in the hands of either, with this difference, h»w
ever, that the Hank might have been more liable
to use them than the Ut-caiver
Q Did you not. afie- cr about this time Write
to u Paymaster r J'aymSsters, recommending,
suggesting, or soliciting lum or them to pu.v lha
trno|,s of the G oiled States in miles of the Bank
of F.ilwardiviie?
A 1 have no recollection of having written to
any P <\ master ai -.11 n the subject I had, at
that time, a*4nuch Confidence in the notes of the
Batik ofE'lwiirilsville ns in any of the local Hunks
•Their notes were reoeivaoichi the 1 and Office,
and wore current in ihat purl of the country
and, 1 should snppn e, might have been taken
by persons to whom the Paymaster was to make
Ins payments, as saf.ly is'any other notes In that
quarter of the country, nor should I have had a
ny objection to refeommend them G any P u mas
er i-a rcadilv hh any oilier of the notes of the In
cal banks which circulated there l t fink, a
buut that time, l had Imud iifsome order having
been given by th ■ W «,r Department • whicit, as
well as 1 now remember required the troops t'o
be paid either in Missouri paper or in specie;
ai d, I iliink, l wrote to llie Secreta y of War,
ami ,probably to other persons, probably tu Col
Jelin tm, complaining oflthe order,
Q Do you recollect whether it was before or
ntV r you attended Congress, that you wrou
t'l.se letters?
A 1 do nut recollect the time, but I suppose
it musi have beau after the first, and bel'-re tin-
second session 1 st-i vod inC mg esa The Hank
only got into operation a short time before my
departure for Congress, in 1818. I recoil ctbm
little ofthe case- nlftldi d to. I am, huWcver.
sit or. ply impressoti with*, a iielief that there w.t.-
or that Lo,- understood it,a* order to Payitiasu.is
that I considered very partial to the Bank ol
Bank to the Treasurer of .he United : know wnat they were doing a-much as an*
Slates, in a draft oil John II. Piatt, aectlr (other ineijibei?
A. I cannot. I neither raw nor heard of
another.
Q For whatpurposp was your address to
Congress, a d the letter to the Speukerac-
dthiipatiying it aetitih a different manner
ami to a different person froin the docu
ments and the copy of the address, which
you -tale was first sent?
[The Committee derided that the ques
tion should not be pu-]
Q .Yotijstate, imirte if your audressoa to
public, at Louisville,dated 18’h May, 1824,
that vou sincerely believed, and had been
kdvisetl by your most dispassionate friends
and other impartial gentlemen, that it wm
absolutely and essuitiallv due to your own
cnarncte, to enter into this controversy
wi It Mi Crawford ? I wish you to state
who these dispassionate fi tends anil iinpar
iiai pei sous were.
A. I object to the question.
[!' L’ minittee decided it should not
be i if 3
A if life made that ob'C vattOn, I do Iidt.
recollect it. He might have dune so.
Q When you had this conversation with
him, bad nut the Richmond Enqutirr oh
that, or soma,day not long before, befer. re
ceived in this city, containing an allegation
that EdWarde, "'theautiiO'ofthe A.Bi
isa tnalteriu negutialiunbr'weci) riiatstate plot,” hud been nominated ns Minister to
' ~ ' IMi " - UTflSll
ed by two good endorsers; and, fio(u very
recent information, I learn that this draft
is now in the hands of the Treasury £)*-
partOient, or the District Attorney, Mr
Dewey, anti in a train to be recoveied.—
A further sum of £7000 it secured in obli
gatjons against the state of Indiana, which
and the Treasury of the United'States
Q. H ive you had
Gov. Edwards concerning
nianagement of the Western Banks, and
concerning his authorship of ihe A B let
ter* ?
.tf. I have; and it was introduced by
himself
StBte that conversation, with the time
and i-i r cutnstance*.
Jl. The previse day I cannot recollect; it
was petir ing his noininatinn made by the
President of the United States to the Sen
ate,ns Minister to Mexico; anil.it was nf
jter the 21st or 22jJ of Febiinrv last. 1
make this statement, from the fact, that on
Q Did nut your affidavit, before the Com* | the 21st or 22d of Febunry, I went to Mrs.
Corn Jljlotit.
BU flKt.*s uhiimore white Corn
the cargo of he schr Haracoa,
Eirnalein parcels lo accommodate purchasers—
|M> lo '
GEO. F. PM.MBS,
Exchange-Dock.
July 3 wt4fi
NOTICE.
I ll \\ It.!.I t M i UK.'.Ell, having ai-aigned
to the subscribe s all his s'oek in trade,
debis, ho. in .behoof of his creditors generally,
it is requested that those indebted make inunc-
dime payment, and those having claims will
please render them lo Mr Thomas Millet, who
9 appointed their agent to dispose of the stock,
vhich.comprhcir a general assortment of
Seasonable Dry Goods,
6ml will be si.kl, wholesale or in retail, at very
reduced prices, tor cash only
J.iMKS MMIENUV,
JOHN H lll'.ID,
GEOltGE UEI.l’H,
A ssiguf-es of \Vm Turner.
spvil 14 hfi
-r , vv- T 1 .—r— •'■TT
. -.1.4 -» liNo.
B’HR stock of Dry Goods, which formerly be
l longed to Mr William Turner, is now sel
mg olfat pric.es much under cost.
aprii 16 B8
Georgia—Chatham County.
py the Huuorable the Justices of the Inferior
Court of said County, sitting for ordinary pur
poses.
To all whom it may concern.
r HF.RBAS Wm H Green, Administrator of
Mary Fleming, dec. lias applied to the
sionorable the Court of Ordinary, to be dis
charged from the administration aforesaid.
Now, therefore these are to qjte and admbn
«h ail and singular the kindred and Credito 8 at
Ihe said Mary Fleming, dec. to file their objec
lions (if any they havej in the Clerk’s office of
laid Court, on or before the tpnth of September
next, otherwise letter dismissory will be grant
ed, and the said William H. Green be discharged
ln>m all claims whatever, as administrator of the
laid dec,
I Witness the honorable Edward Ilarden, one
w the Justices ofthe said Court tiiis lOih day of
March, A. D 1824.
march 10
57
S M. BOND, c c o.
EX'' unmoF
Francis Jalineau.
I-L persons having any iU maiiusagainst the
1 estate of Francis Jalineau, dec. are request-
P'l to deliver them in, properly attested, on or
fjeiore the first day of October next All ac-
pounts not presented previous to that day, will
f n V efuse <i payment by the undersigned exepu
.inly 10
149
[OPPlCE F 1R HIIIPI’IX ;
*HF> subscriber is now able to attend person
ally to the duties of
ripping Seamen anil the No
tarial liusiness.
M the office of Alexander Hunter and Wm. P.
ears, at the N wj corner of the Exchange.
■*J« 106 WM.P.11BBM.
Q Was the letter which you wrote, at the re-
qin-Ht of Mr Btephrnson, dated on the same d.iy
on which it W-bUo: i.-il ?
A 1 do i.oi recollecti liu< I presume it was.
Q Did y>. « « e lion, on that day, enclose
printed copy of your publication? and were both
in the same package ?
A. It way oh the same day, and, I think, both
lett .-r mid paper wore , o iii one cover.
Q. Was the l and Office, then, kept in M
i>te)iheiiKon’s houst ? or in a auperate building ?
A It was in u seperale budding, not far from
his house,
H Did you see him carry the letter to the
Post Offisr; or do you know that l,-.- did so ?
A. I did not sec i' put hi, nor do I know tlmi
it was The Pn-t Office waa at a considerable
distance fiom the pi»ce
Q At -a liai time of the day, in the morning
ov ibe afternoon, uas the copy taken?
* 1 do not ■'•■collect.
Q Did yon make the d'aft'at the office, or i.
your own house. In fore you went til re?
A. I think it was written in m* own house.
Q. Was it made on tin--aime day on which it
was conii-d, or the d >y liefnrc?
A. I d > not recolb ct, but I think it was on the
same <!r-y
Q. At wliat hour of the day din the mail leave
Edwardjtvi'de fir Wnshi’.gton Ci"- - , nt that time ?
A I do not remember the hours of arrival or
departure.
Q. How long does it usually take letters to
reach Washington City, from Eilwardsville, by
mail? .
A Fr- m 16 to 18 days, I think, in regular
course ot Mail, and when the weather is good—
but it may be very much delayed when the we t-
tlier is bad The mail ha., been very irregular.
Q Wliat is the average time in which you
have received letters from that place, when you
have been in this city? Would 20 day s be an
unreasonable allowance?
A I do not know bow to mnke an average;
miscarriages are more liable to happen in the
winter time, not only from accidents, but. from
the accumulation of letters, and I cannot now
specify in how long a time I have received a sin
gle - ne of my letters after it was mailed fiom
there I think I have rtet-ived much fewer in
twenty days than those which have taken s Ion
ger time The mail has been irregular in the
wintertime during ihe sessions of Congress,
letters at least have arrived very irregularly
Q I understand you to have said, that, but for
the Secretary’s report to Congress, on the 22d
of March, you would have gone quietly to Mex
ico, without disturbing > ourself with any of those
charges against him ?
A I believe 1 have stated, and I now state
gain, that I should not have made the attack up
on Mr Crawford, if I had not considered him as
atiactingme
Question, by Mr Webster Have you been
pretty well acquainted with the general opera
tions of the Treasury, in the Western States, for
several years, in regard to the collection of the
public debts ?
A I have been, -in regard to the collection
from the sale of public lauds, but of the special
facts contained in the documents, I had no other
means of knowing than every other member of
Congress, except wliat I knew from being a Di
rector of the Bank of Bdwardsville, while I was
such. . „
Q t hen did you first become a Member ot
Congress ?
A 1 was elected in 1818.
Q Have you continued a member, without in-
tenpissidn, from that time until your recent di
plomatic appointment ?
A I have
Q Have you, generally, attended the sessions
f Congress?
A. I have-
Question, by Mr Livingston. Do you know a-
ny thing farther, of your own knowledge, m
support ofthe facts and specifications against
Mr Crawford, contained in your memorial?
A Nothing that I recollect, at this time, thai
relates td the matters specially alledged in my
address to the House.
NIVIAN EDWARDS,
June IG.,1824,
Mr Edwards being again called.
Questioned, by Mr Forsytlf. You state
■that you received from the Gasliie' of thy;
Bank of Edwartsvilld itu ehcjb ure, co>
tained in a letter from Mr Crawford to him,
I - <
miitbe nt investigation of the last Congress,
wi'h respect tu thi* correspondei.ee. which
you allege took place be ween the Secre.a-
y of the Treasury and Mr Stephenson, iin-
poieupon iheS. c.ftary the necessity,when
he made his final tepo.-t either to pioduce
ihat coriesfiOiidence or to account tortile
omission to produce i? ?
A. I submit the question to the Commit
tee.
IV- Committee derided it should not be
put]
Q l)e you think it pmdble that, iu the
yerif 1819, a letter should have come by
mail, from Edw trilsville to VVas)ungton
from (lie I6tii of October tu thu 1st of No-
vembe foliowmg i
A. Judging from the StAtemei.t I have
il-.y -teen, from the Post Office De.part-
ment [ d.ould think it was nut: but, if the
lett'T (il the Receiver did not leave Ed-
wa'dsville bel'o e the 16th of October, I
do not believe Ihat Mr Cr'avvford’s letter to
the Receiver, of the 1st o( .November fol
lowing, was written or sent on the day of
us date, unless the letter uf the Receiver
was »ont. by private conveyance to Louis
ville, and mailed there.
Question, byM- Floyd. When, in your
deposition, heretofoje taken, you mention
the name of *• Colonel Moo r e.’' to what
CiV. M mre did you allude.
A To u representative in Congress from
AI diaina.
Q. by Mr Floyd. You state that you had
p epai-rd another address to the House of
Representatives subsequently to writing
die first, which, should Congress have ad
journed.you intended to get published in
tiieNatiun.il Intelligencer, il y»u could.
What w is your object in wishing to have
il so published ?
A. I ihouglr I had obtained sufficient
testimony to establish* my innocence of the
charge or imputation which I underslond
.VI Crawford as having made again.t me;
and i wished o lav hat tes imony and mv
tdtlresa before (lie people of the United
States.
(June 5 0tl(. Mr Edwards farther exam
iiied)
Q. by M* Forsyth. Have you, not h«l,
in your po-sessinn, the paper which y u
say Lippiucot found in the Receiver’s offi
ce in your hand writing, if any time since
the 12th of October. 1819?
A. I presume that the d aft ofthe letter
oftlve Receiver of the 12'b of October is
•llutled to. IVre is nothing Ihat l more
firmly believe than that I have never seen
that paper from the time it was copied by
the Receiver, as has Deen before stated un
til it was found b> Mi Lippincot in the
office, in April or Miy la»t,ashas also been
stated. I then held i i my mods and read
ft, I believe, more than once, but never had
it in my possession, out of the office, after it
was so found by Mr Lippincot
Q Do you know who prepared the rough
draft of the letters from the President of
the Edwartlsville B ihk to you, of January
7.1810. to the Secretary of the Treasury
of the same date, and to (he Secretary of
Ihe Treasury of the 18th of April, 1620,^or
eithe- of them?
A I do not,
NINIAN EDWARDS.
.. . .... exicu? nod cad you say pusitiwiy tl k^
uny conversation with'the denial of the authorship on the part of
^rinug Mt C'Awfmd’* Mi Edwards did not relate to the plot in
stead »f the wiitings themselves Under that
signature? and did nut the conversation
grow «ui ol that publication?
A T sow an article in the Riclimocd En*
quirer,slating that Niniatt Edwards, the
^•author of A. B ”^)r‘*ofA. B.jdotmetnmy, rt
(l do not recollect which,) had been an no*
minated. The paper I saw at the boauilng
house of Mis Queen, and thinkinthe hands
nf M Elkins; whether it was before the
conversation with Guv. Ed wauls, or a I era
wards, I (To not distinctly recollect. 1 am
inclined to think it was after the conVe -a-
tion; but 1 am very well satNIi.-d, that, in
the conversation with Gov. E whvn ho de
clared himself not to be the author uf AD.
and pledged his honor to the declaration,
that 1 understood him to have an rk\ licit
reference to the numbers signed A.B •Inch
appeared in the Wasnington Republic-mi
and 1 so understfod him, because he had
reference to the reports of the two commit
tees who examined into that subject a* die
previous session of Congress. No allusion
whatever was made in this con vernation to
the article in theRichmond E quir-r.
Q In the course of the cunve> sntio-i, was
Q jeeo’s to biumi, where Governor Ed
wards resided, and this conversation was
after ( went there. He stated that he was
iibuu’t to hu attacked in the Senate of the
United Slates for the purpose of defeating
his nomination; that party and political
spirit was now high; that he understood
that charges would be exhibited against
him, and ihat it hud been so declared in the
Senate Chamber. I remarked to Govern
or Edwards that he Well knew, according
to the rules of that body, while on Execu
tive business, secrecy was required ; that
I was not ut liberty to mention any occur-1 reference made to any particular numbers
rence, or the remark of a single member, of the publications signed A. B.
James Noble, ofthe Senate sworn, on the
part of Mr Crawford.
Q. You were employed by ihe Treasury
,in some arrangements with the Bink of
Vincennes, were you not ? Will you be so
good as to state whether, iu yuur opinion,
the debt due by that Bank to the Govern
mentis secuied, or any part of it, and, if
any, what ?
'Jl. So far as I lad the agency in it, which
is to the amount of about 826,000, 1 be
lievt* and consider the debt as secured.
Q Du you consider the claims of the
United Mtates on that Bank, apart from the
collateral security, as being safe?
. j3. .As to the residue ofthe clajm which
■the United Mates has against the Bunk of
Vincennes, 1 know nothing of it, except
from information, which has been derived
from the Directors, who say that the Bank
is able to pay the deot, and has secured ita
payment. A pa'-t of that debt, consisting,
of 310,000, (not in dud-d in t 1 * 826,000
bijforemtntiqnedJ'Wfit trgasfer-cd by th»I
excepting so Isr as related to myself; that
I was not governed by party or political
feelings or motives; that i adhered to the
expression made use nt by Jefterson—and
the only inquiry with ine was. ft. he capa
ble and is he liuueet? Gov. Edwards then
remarked that, although secrecy was re
quired in that body, yet he was informed,
almost every day, of the transactions and
arid remarks of individuals when his nom
ination wus called up;aud he added, "No
ble, I shall not forget yqu-’' I then re
[died, that I diu not understand his mean
ing He said it was unimportant—he was
satisfied l was not governed by the paity
feelings which ware then prevailing; It
was on that day, in the evening of which
this conversation took place, that 1 had
moved to take up his nomination in the
.Senate. This must have been hi* mean
ing, when lie said he would not furget me;
for he explained it the next day, and said
he had heard that I hud done so. Mr. E.
farther remarked, thnt he knew me to be
the decisive friend of William H. Craw
ford; and, said he, I am considered as be
ing his bitter enemy—and I am charged
with being the author of the numbers sign
ed A B.; but, fraising his band,) I pledge
you my honor, I am not the author, not do
I know who the author was. Crawford
anti I, said M- Edwards, have had a little
difference,hut 1 hove always considered
him a high-minded, honorable, and vigi
lant < fficer ofthe government; he has been
abused about the Western banks and the
unavailable funds; (l-ai<ing forward and
extending his hand,) he added. Now d—n
it, you ki.ow we both live in states where
there ure mSny pour debtors to the govern
ment for lands, <ogether with a deranged
currency. The notes nn various banks
being depreciated, after the effect and op
eration ofthe war in that portion of the
Ufiion, and the banks,by attempting to call
in-their paper, having exhausted their spe ;
cie, the notes that were then in circulation
became of little or no value. Many men
of influence in that country, said he, have
united to induce the Ssc-etaiy ofthe Trea
sury to select certain banks as batiks of
deposite, and to take the notes of certain
banks in pavment fur public lands. Had
he not done so, (meaning Mr, Crawford.Jl
many of our inhabitants would have been
turned nut of doot.s and lost theirland*
and the people of that country would have
had an universal disgust against.Mr Craw-
fmd; ind I will ventrne to suy, said
Mi Edwards, notwithstanding I am con
sidered his enemy, that no man in this
government could have conducted the
fiscal and financial concerns of the gov
ernment with more integ’ity and propri
e'y than Mr Criwfn d did
I farther remarked to Governor Edwards,
iti speaking of his nomination, that. nas-
muchag he was nominated by the President,
unless some charge was brought against
him, I had already evinced in the Senate
my disposition lo vote for the t confirmation
of his nomination, without any previous
consultation wi<h hint; but added, if I had
the power of making the nomination, I
would not have nominated him; and, as an
evidence of it, I had written a letter to Mr
Monroe, urging the nominition of Wm.
Henry Harisun, and with that lette,* l had
enclosed the unanimous recommendation
of tlie members of the Legislature of Indi
ana in favor.of General Harison.
Question by Mr Cook. When Gov. Ed
wards mentioned lo you that he knew
wliat . the Senate was d »ing, did he not
at tlie same tinie of"“—♦*'“* 1 °
that lie was a
had a right to
A There was not.
Q Wa- the name of Gen.Cocke at all in-
trot!tired ?
A It was not.
Q When did you first mention the enii-
versation you have now repeated as having
passed between yourself and Gov Ed
wards?
A According to the best of my recollec
tion, I never repeated.it to any person un
til the evening i.fthe day thatl was infor
med that Gov. Edwards address was pre
sented to the House of Repiesentatives~
on that evening, in conversation with sev
eral of the ntembes of that House, amongst
whom were Mr Reed and M, Nelson-
some of whom said that Guv. Edwards had
avowed himself to be the author of A B
and others said that be had done so, I re
marked that they must have misunderstood
the address, for G»v Edwards had pledged
his honor to.me that he was not the vufhnl*
of A B—in the same evening I made tho
same remark to Mr Elkins-
Q Did you mention the subject to any
member of the SeDaty.
A Not while his nomination was pend
ing, nor before his addross appeared—af
terwards 1 spoke of it'without reserve,
Q I preceive from the Kiehtnnod En
quirer that a le'tei .purporting to havr been
written in the senate Chamber, and dated
April 26, 1824, states, that “Mr N. Ed
wards declared to Mr Noble, Senator from
Indiana, that he was not the author of the
A B publiraiioi.—he did this pending his
nomination as Minister to Mexico; in i on-
sequence of this declaration Mi N"ble
states that he voted for him”—did you
make any such connnunica ■ ion to any mem
ber ot the Senate?
[M, Forsyth objected to this questien—
and the Coinmittes decided the question
Was improper.]
Q Did you ever have any conversation
with Col. Benton of the Senate on the sub
ject ol your conversation with Mi Ed-
ward-?
A Yes.
Q In the conversation you had wi'h Mt 1
Ed wards, did he speak of the original plant
adopted bv the Secretary ofthe Treasury
fur the relief of the people ofthe WVat, otf
did he speak of the manner in which that;
plan was executed?
A He spoke of the conduct of the Sec*
rotary of the Treasury generally.
Q Did you understand tho conversation
you have mentioned as intended to affect
your vote on the then pending nomination?
A I did not suppose that that was its
design,nor had it.any such' effect upon my
self I considered him as shaking as an
hur.est man : If he had told me he was the
author of A B it would not in my opinion
have hid the least weight with me what
ever in relation to my vote—for I.cofisid*
ered that matter as done with, and I had
already taken ait active partifor him in thq
Senate;
Question by Mr Forsyth. Whatdo y<ta
now understand as having been the effect
intended t« have been produced by that
conversation?
A Guv Edwards having' pledged his
word 4nd honor to me* unsought for, that
he was not the author of A B; aad having
expressed his opinion ofthe integrity aud
vigilance of the Secretary of the Treasury,
and mentioned that lie expected an attack
inthe Senate, I now suppose from thq
friends of Mr Crawford, I consider him as
having expected that I would take this in
formation that he gave iqe into that body
and it would be the means tif securing'ktfia
cokfiitoationqi httsoomiijjttioni