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A Trip To Father’s Land
Rediscovering One’s Beginnings ..
By Dale Whiten
“This was one time we
really saw how the average
European lives.”
That statement was made
by Mrs. Juanita Carmichael
of Jackson who last summer
toured extensively in Europe
with her husband M. W.
Carmichael and their daugh
ter Dorner Tice who lives in
Augusta.
The Carmichaels visited
seven countries-Iceland,
Luxembourg, Germany,
Austria, Switzerland,
Hungary, and Rumania for
23 days.
They went first to Reyk
javik, Iceland and then on to
the mainland. There, Luxem
bourg was the first stop after
which they flew to Worms,
Germany.
While they were in Ger
many, the Carmichaels visit
ed Berchtesgaden, the site of
Hitler’s favorite and most
noted retreat-the “Eagle’s
Nest.”
The next country they
visited -- Switzerland -- was
obviously a favorite of Mrs.
Carmichael. “If I ever spend
a lot of time in Europe, that’s
one place I want to return
to,” she said.
Vienna, Austria-located on
the Danube and noted for its
Baroque architecture
followed the visit to Switzer
land.
“Vienna is just beautiful
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and so exciting,” Mrs.
Carmichael said. She added,
“There are all kinds of
buildings and varieties of
architecture there.”
After leaving Austria, they
crossed into the first Com
munist bloc country-
Hungary. Mrs. Carmichael
commented that Hungary
appeared to be really as
progressive as most recent
observers have reported it to
be.
She said the friends they
visited there enjoy a fairly
comfortable standard of
living. “They seem to have
whatever they want-except
freedom,” she said. While in
Hungary, the Carmichaels
visited the capital at Buda
pest, “a city about the size of
Atlanta.”
Mrs. Carmichael described
Budapest as “quite an
interesting city” with a
modern section and a section
that is rich in history dating
back for hundreds of years
when the Habsburgs and the
Magyars had power in
Hungary.
Mrs. Carmichael explained
that after a visitor crosses
into one of the countries
considered part of the
Communist bloc, he must
report to the police how long
he plans to stay.
She said their bags were
not checked when they
crossed into these countries,
but that her husband’s wallet
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FAMILY REUNION Mrs. Dorner Tice and Mrs.
Juanita Carmichael, second and third from left, are shown
in this photo with their first, second and third cousins at
their home in Teremia Mare, Rumania.
was - to see if he was
carrying any of the local
currency.
“In Hungary-and Ruma
nia-guards would come
around on the train and
check the compartments
closely-and under the seats
to see if there was anybody
trying to get out of the
country illegally,” Mrs.
Carmichael said.
She said she and her family
had obtained a “Eurail
Pass” which permitted them
to travel by rail throughout
much of their trip on just the
one pass. In addition, it
covered trips on the Rhine
and the Danube, “but a
visitor shouldn’t take too long
a ride on one of these rivers,”
Mrs. Carmichael observed,
“because it gets awfully
boring.”
If this trip had a special
appeal for all the Carmichael
family, it must have had a
special meaning for Mrs.
Carmichael, for when they
crossed into Rumania, they
were going to visit some of
her relatives--the Wendl
Gorez family-who lives in
Teremia Mare, Rumania.
How did Mrs. Carmichael
happen to have close rela
tives in Rumania? Here is an
explanation.
Juanita Carmichael was
born in Forsyth, Georgia to
John Dorner and Margaret
Row Dorner, the only
daughter among six broth
ers.
Her father who only some
years before was answering
to the name of Johann (John
in German), had emigrated
to America around the turn
of the century.
John Dorner had been born
in Teremia Mare when it was
still a part of the Austro-
Hungarian Empire. Hun
dreds of German families
had been living in this area
for hundreds of years. And
Mrs. Carmichael noted that
even today outsiders are
instantly aware of the sharp
contrast between the Ger
man homes and those of the
other inhabitants. The Ger
man homes are the epitome
of frugality and tidiness, and
there is a continuing sense of
pride and intense belonging
in these transplanted Ger
mans that makes them want
sincerely to be a part of the
Fatherland.
He had been living in the
United States for many
years, had been voting, and
had had sons in the national
guard before it was discover
ed that John Dorner was not
a U.S. citizen.
Only when one of his sons
wanted to go to a military
school and his father’s
citizenship papers were
needed was it discovered that
this step had never been
taken-though it quickly was
and the son was admitted to
officer’s school.
John Dorner had obviously
had an eventful life which
had taken many turns, and
his daughter was now going
to visit the place where her
father’s family had had its
beginning.
Mrs. Carmichael said they
had to go to Arad, Rumania
first and when they had
notified the police they were
there and whom they were
going to visit, they learned
they were not supposed to
stay with the Gorez family
since they were only cousins.
Therefore the Carmichaels
had to rent a hotel in Arad,
but when they reached the
home of Wendl Gorez in
Teremia Mare, they were
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allowed to stay with them
after all.
Mrs. Carmichael described
the conditions in Rumania as
being rather bad in just about
every facet of life.
She said the roads were
unpaved in many areas and
that there were no street
lights in Teremia Mare. “The
Country certainly does not
cater to the foreign visitor, as
evidenced by high prices for
everything and a lack of
luxury items, even though
the government attempts to
encourage tourism in Ru
mania,” Mrs. Carmichael
said.
She noted that a certain
amount of private enterprise
is allowed in Rumania. For
example, the Gorez family
gets to keep some of the
money it earns for the crops
they grow.
“They have the best
tomatoes I’ve ever eaten,”
Mrs. Carmichael said, “and
they make their own wines
and liqueurs.”
Mrs. Carmichael said that
when they attended a dance
in Teremia Mare, the
younger girls found it a little
surprising that American
women dance in public
because that’s something
that Rumanian women do not
do.
She added that the social
life such as dress customs
and gatherings such as
dances is much like that in
the West.
Politically, Mrs. Carmi
chael said the Germans in
Rumania suffer doubly from
discrimination. As all Ru
manians are, they are
repressed by a government
which is subservient to
Russia, and then the Ger
mans are discriminated
against by the local leaders
in favor of Rumanians.
She said she feels the
political conditions in this
area will probably not allow
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CARTING ALONG —Mrs. Juanita Carmichael, second
from left, is riding a cart used by pickers of grapes for sale
io the distillery at Teremia Mare, Rumania. Mrs.
Carmichael’s daughter, Mrs. Dorner Tice, is leading the
horse.
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 18, 1976
any German reunification for
these people in the lifetime of
many of them. Therefore
many are leaving these lands
their ancestors lived on for
hundreds of years so they can
escape the repression and
discrimination and can share
a common heritage in a land
which is home by heritage
only-Germany. Mrs. Car
michael pointed to people in
snapshots who had or were
planning to defect to Ger
many.
She said that after heino in
eastern Europe and seeing
how much political repres
sion there is, she too was
quite indignant over Presi
dent Ford’s remarks in the
foreign policy debate about
eastern Europe’s not being
dominated by the Soviet
Union.
But she added that she
feels there’s little the U.S.
can do about the develop
ments there without risking a
confrontation with the Rus
sians over what is regarded
as their sphere of influence.
I asked Mrs. Carmichael
'what impression do most
Europeans have on Ameri
cans.
“That we’re all rich,” she
answered laughing. “They
think we lead a life of
luxury,” she said, “and to
them it probably would be.”
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WINE, WINE BUT NOT A DROP TO DRINK Mr.
and Mrs. M. W. Carmichael are shown with their third
cousin at a wine distillery in Teremia Mare, Rumania
which is operated by Mrs. Carmichael’s second cousin.
Both white and red wines are made here.
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