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THE ATLANTA GEORGIAN ANT) NEWS. WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 13,1907.
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BIG DOINGS IN GEORGIA FOOTBALL CAMPS THIS WEEK
EDITED 3Y
IP. H. WHITING
! NOT NEWS, BUT VIEWS
FOUR VANDY FOOTBALLISTS
By PERCY H. WHITING.
It look* as though the Cotton State* were trying to “play
the pig" with Mobile.
That city ha* outgrown the 'organization, but the Cotton
Stater* don't know it. and refuse to let the Alabama club pull out
unless $2,500 and the guarantee money in the league treasury are
given to the clubs remaining in the organization.
Of course Mobile is not going to do any such stunt; and
threatens, if forced into a corner, to form n small independent
league and send the Shreveport franchise to Algiers, La.
Probably the Cotton States League will display a little sense
later on and give the Mobile franchise to Hattiesburg or somo
other good town in a class with the rest of the Cotton States
bunch and let Mobile play in the Southern League.
If Mobile gets in the Southern League all right that will give
Alabama three clubs in the organization. Then if Chattanooga
pulled in Tennessee would have three. The only two clubs out
side those two states would be the beat town* of Georgia and
Louisiana and the Southern would be a reasonably compact league
which would help a lot. now that “club rates” are out of vogue
and every baseball association has to pay full fare for every man
on the club.
The Atlanta Athletic Club is making preparation* for a foot-
elae
bail team and it will be, like everything etae connected with that
organization ,n first-class affair.
But somehow the writer finds it difficult to believe that it was
a wise move to get up such a team.
Athletic club football is passing out. So is Y. M. C. A. foot
ball. So are all varieties of the game but the straight college and
ichool article.
Athletic club members can not properly prepare for football.
It takes a long, hard course of training—it take* two or throe
hour* of work every week-day afternoon from September 15 to Oc
tober 1 to harden a team for the gruelling grind of the football
field, to render them immune to serious injury.
"RINGERS USED,”
CHARGES G. RICE
Says That Georgia Paid Men to Play Against
Tech, and Gives Names and
Amounts Paid.
On the left is Sherrill, the heaviest men on the Vanderbilt team. Next him ie “Stein” 8tone, all-South-
!?" C i* n n r L J5* 8 » ul »y, a sub tackle, who will doubtleea get in the game against Tech. Next
i-.iit.Ji B ° fa Blake, all-Southern end, and on the right te Morrison, tub fullback of the Commodores team, who
is likely to play against the Yellow Jackets in the second half.
GEORGIA AND TECH TEAMS ARE
PREPARING FOR GREAT GAMES
Georgia and Glemson Mak
ing No Noise, But Pre
paring for Meeting.
The athletic club got away with it nil right last senson. And
they may do it again this year. But some time this team will go
against some team from another city and somebody will get killed
and then watch out and see what your legislature does for foot
ball.
It is absurd to try and combine business and football. If you
are going in for one you have to drop the other.
Word comes from New York that, rather than deprive
“Tough .lawn” McGraw from the plensures of the racing game
the owners of the National League club in New York arc going to
“can” the scrappy manager and make Roger Bresnahau leader
of the Giants for 1908.
And a good job it will be, too.
“Scrappy Mac’s” day* are done as a manager.
i long
As long as he attended to the game and ns long as hi* pecn-
I in
the National League he was
liar style of baseball' was tolerated
winner.
Bnt times have changed. And with the change will come the
relegation of «F. J. McGraw to the race track, where he belongs.
And not a man who cares for clean baseball will be particu
larly sorry.
ALGIERS, LA., MAY SECURE
SHREVEPORT'S FRANCHISE
A silence like unto that of an unten
anted grave la arising from Georgia
and Clemson these days.
But for all that you can take It from
ua that both teams are working to the
limit to get ready for thetr meeting at
Ponce DeLeon park Saturday after
noon. which seaelon begins at 3 o'clock.
This game will certainly be one of
the star affairs of the season.
TY COBB IS
GIVEN WATCH
Big Crowd Turns Out to See
Georgia Ball Player
Honored.
New Orleans. La., Nor. U.—Last
light at a conference In Mobile be
tween President H. T. Ingo, Secretary
'olson. of the Mobile Club, and Man-
tger Charlie Frank, of New Orleans,
t was practically decided that If the
'otton States I-rogtie required Mobile
■o pay for her withdrawal from the
'otton Btates aggregation, the frnn-
•hlse would be plnced In Algiers, a
■uburb of New Orleans.
Manager Frank had been culled to
tfoblle to give hla consent to the pro-
msed removal of the franchise, which
ras recently purchased by Mobile from
Ihreveport.
If a franchise Is placed In Algiers a
new park will have to be built and New
Orleans will have continuous baseball.
Algiers Is a part of New Orleans, and
before a franchise could be placed
there the consent of organised base
ball will have to be obtained. Organ
ised baseball will abide by the wishes
of the Pelican club In the matter, which
means that If Mobile's plan to place
the franchise In the <'otton States
League does not pan out Algiers will
become a member of the Southern
League.
That would make one of the most
compact baseball organisations In the
world, cutting down the Southern’!
mileage considerably and drawing from
a considerably Increased population.
Gordon Slightly Blemished .
By Battle With Chattanooga
Ipeelsl to lbs Georftea.
Barneevllle, Ga.. Nov. IS.—Gordon’s
earn came out of her set-to with the
taavy Chattanooga University team
lightly dilapidated and with several
,f the regulars out of the ring.
Cockran was more disfigured than
my of his team-mates and had to re-
Ire from the game toward the middle
•f the last half.
Johnson followed soon after Cockran.
hough hit Injuries were not of such a
lature aa to force hla retirement. The
nach thought best, however, to with-
Iraw him and give the substitutes a
ihance to show how they would stand
he going In such a fierce game.
Captain Prout also gave place to a
sibatltute. Peebles going In at center.
>rout was not injured in any way, but
ras taken out rather than let him run
he risk of being too badly Injured to
•et In the Mercer game.
The Gordon team la working hard for
he game with the Baptiste, and while
-awrence, Moore, Cockran and Hogg
vave not been able to report for prec-
ice since the game last Friday, the
nach and captain are fortunate In
wvtng such substitutes as Woodbum.
Peebles, Jones, McWhorter and Henley
to fill their places temporarily.
Henley and McWhorter, who work
ed out In the game Friday, are com
ers, and will push some regular for a
place before the season ends. Had not
Henley been Injured the early part of
the season and If McWhorter had come
out for practice earlier both would
have been star playara by this time.
Both men were green at the gai
when they entered school, but hare
proven ept pupils and will be stars next
season.
Woodbum. who succeeded Cockran
at half, proved a fast man and a good
ground-gainer, though he seemed a bit
nervous and was not quick to break
Into a play on the defense.
Johnson proved u valuable substi
tute at end. Hogg being out of the en
tire game, having been hurt In scrim
mage the Wednesday before the game.
He Is especially quick In gelling on a
fumbled ball and la me of the It ret men
down under punts. He, with Law
rence and Cockran, were the stellar
lights of the game here Friday, and
they will no doubt make thetr pres
ence felt against Mercer Saturday
should they all get In the line-up.
Stanton, the Tramp Pugilist,
Gets Best of J. Carroll
By TAD.
New Tort. Nov. IX—Walter Stanton
teat JoJjnny Carroll In the six-round
•out at Brown’s gymnasium last night.
Itanton Is tha San Francisco middle
weight, who came East In a "side door
•ullman" soma months ago and trlm-
ned everything of hla weight In the
•nail fry division, winning the hearts
•f the local sports by his great work.
Johnny Carroll Is one of the seasoned
Last night they met and Stanton
ron in avery round except the Oret. He
Is a square-shouldered fellow, with
oulte a large head, and hla opponent le
a lanky peraon, with long arms and
bmsd shoulders, like old Fits Stan
ton ripped lefta to the body and by
eo fast that Carroll had neither time
to block or hop away. Blanton barked
him around the ring. Jabbing, hooking
and upper-cutting. Carroll was wait
ing for a good right, but the chance
never rime.
Stanton has the chance of his life on
next Monday, when he meets Billy
Papke, at Boston.
“I can play one game a little, hut I
can't play this speaking game a bit,”
said Ty Cobb, blushlngly, on the stage
at the Orpheum Tuesday night. In his
hand he held a handsome gold watch
given by his Georgia admirers, and the
heavy batter of the Tigers looked weak
as a kitten.
One of the biggest crowds that ever
filled the Orpheum braved the nasty
weather to aee Ty Cobh. They cheered
him when he entered the box with
Mayor Joyner. Lowry Arnold and sev
eral others, and when he stepped before
the full gase, the assembled fans and
the footlights got In their work, the
hoys In the roost and the fans In front
all gave a shout.
Mayor Joyner presented Lowry Ar
nold. who In turn Introduced Ty Cobb
and presented him with the watch. Ty
accepted It ami looked proud. He said
he couldn't speak very much, unless It
was to an umpire, but the mayor re
marked afterward:
'•Ty, you've got me bent a city block
on a speech. You made good- from the
start."
Heisman to Use Same Team
Against Vandy He Did
Against Sewanee.
Through slush, mud, rain, sleet and
despite discouragements that would
shrivel the heart of n lees courageous
leader than Coach Heisman, the Tech
team plowed steadily along Tuesday
In preparation for the game with Van
derbilt on Saturday.
As though there had not been enough
hard luck already. Charley Sweet, who
has been going around and playing pic.
tureaque football, despite a caved-ln
chest, met with another accident Tues
day afternoon and had to retire from
the scrimmage.
And to add to the other difficulties
one of the most prominent members of
the team—Hill—Is threatened with the
wrnth of the faculty and may retire
from football soon to spend more time
on his studlex.
Right now It appears that, barring
any further accidents, the Tech team
which plays Vanderbilt Saturday will
be Identical with the one that faced
Sewanee last week.
Snyder Is a sure thing for center.
"Tiny" Henderson will be at right
guard. Probably Gordon Smith will
play the other guard. But Monday and
Tuesday he was missing from practice,
and his studies, and Coach Heisman
had a search warrant and a posse of
football sleuths out on his trail at last
reports. If he turns up all right, the
left wing will be the famous Smith-
Brmvn-Jones combination.
By GRANTLAND RICE.
Of alt bare-faced and flagrant vio
lations of collegiate sport, the stunt
perpetrated hy the University of Geor
gia in her game against Tech sets a
new limit.
The evidence has been turned over to
us from several sources, absolutely re
liable, that Coach Whitney used at
least four ringers and probably more In
that Atlanta conflict.
To begin with. Georgia held secret
practice ten days before that game, at
which no student nor any one from the
outside was permitted to attend.
Upon arrival In Atlanta. Whitney and
the red and black manager refused to
onnounce any line-up. The squad was
hustled to a hotel without being per
mitted to even register.
And that afternoon against Tech the
Georgia squad loomed upon the field
with a aet of stalwarts whom the bulk
of the Georgia student body had never
seen nor heard of before.
For five or ten minutes at a time
they Rlmply battered Tech up and down
the field, but always gave out after a
few rounds of piny, showing a woeful
lark of wind and training.
And now the secret Is out. Among
those employed by Georgia for this
occasion were: Edmondson, the old
Georgetown star, who also played right
field for Joe Cantlllon's American
League team last fall; Martel and Neal,
both ex-Georgetown knights, and an
other ex-Syracuse athlete in addition
to Rossller, captain of Savannah's two
famous Blue and White professional
football teams.
These men left Atlanta Saturday
night, returning East, and confessed
upon the northbound train that the)'
had received $1(0 and all expenses from
the Georgia management.
All this Is now common property In
Atlantn. and has turned a great num
ber of former sport lovers against all
forms of college sport. It Is a per
formance that the S. I. A. A. ran not
afford to overlook If the high purpose
and Integrity of this association Is to
be maintained. Wo have no prejudice
der proper faculty athletic gjkianc.
and with a high-grade coach the m-M
ent situation at the Red and Bliek
stronghold would not be so. *
But unfortunately It IS so— n „ r
Professor Holmes, of Mercer, vice prei
blent In charge of that territory 7l
depended upon to set things right" n.
Holmes Is honest and well meanlnr
but molt PvMpnflv InpanuMo . ?•
but moet evidently Incapable for
post. Georgia was not even ceniured
by him for refusing to announce her
line-up and bringing men upon ths
Held whom the student body hod nevrr
seen nor heard of.
Georgia supporters retaliate bv at*,.
Ing that Heisman In playing Da,|.
whom they claim has played profes.
atonal ball.
To which Heisman himself r.pli,,-
"The flames and addresses of ererj
man on my team are either known or
open to the public. Every man hu
matriculated In proper order, passed
all entrance examinations, and le now
keeping up with Tech's hard technic*!
course. Every m»n has signed every
eligibility requirement, and as for u
I know or have been possibly able t»
And out, every man Is eligible. If any
one know* any fact to the contrary I
will gladly accept hts proof and see
that the guilty one I* Immediately pm
off the squad. I have charges against
certain men on the Tech team, and
with the help of our faculty represen
tative. have looked Into them thor-
oughly. Every charge made >u
proven absolutely without foundation.
One of niy men, Johnson, was ruled out
for a full month, pending such Investl-
gallon, and In the end reinstated, n
the charge was proven to be foolish
and false.”
Georgia is one of the oldest. If not
the oldest, universities In Dixie. Pear
Institutions anywhere have turned out
any abler set of alumni, and when her
athletics were pure there was no cot.
lere In the South above her level.
But affairs have changed, end not
only for the sake of S. I. A. A. sport,
but for her own sake as well, the pres
ent athletic body at Athene should he
In any way against the University of turned out In toto and a new regime
Georgia, believing as we do that un- I established.—Nashville Tenneasean.
PERRY LIPE WILL
MANAGE RICHMOND
right In his work, despite I
all
Jones will be the left end.
At right tackle will be the famous
Davis, and at right end will perforin
M'LAURIN.
It Is doubtful If there Is a bel
ter tackle In the South this year
than McLaurln, who Is leading tha
f’lenison Tigers. Ills work against
Georgia Saturday will doubtless be
brllllunt.
The New York papers are talking
about a clash to a conclusion between
< 'Imrle* Comiskey and Ban Johnson,
with Comiskey the top choice In the
betting. This Is something we refuse
to believe, pending the release of. a
goml yam.
him In tho meanwhile. If It does, Tech
will again be robbed of a punter, and It
Is probable that Davis will be called
back to do the long-distance booting.
Davis Is undoubtedly the prise leath
er smasher of the tram, but up to the
present he has been more needed In the
line than as a ball-lifter. But times
are changed and It looks os though he
would get the next call.
"Piggy” Hightower will do the quer
terbaelt performance and Sweet nnd
Fltsslmmons will play the halves. John,
son will again perform at full.
It Isn’t a bud team and will doubt
less give Vanderbilt a hustle.
There Is no chance that either Rob
ert or Buchanan, who were Injured In
the Georgia gaifle, will be back and do
ing business Saturday.
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BIG EASTERN ELEVENS BUSY TOO i
ARMY SETTLES DOWN
TO STEADY PRACTICE.
West Point, N. Y„ Nov. IX—The
regular afternoon drill has stopped for
the winter and from now on the team
will be able to practice e'very day.
Speaking of the Cornell game, Lieu
tenant W. D. Smith, football repre
sentative In the weekly bulletin of the
Athletic Association, says that while
the army was defeated by Cornell, they
gnlned much needed experience. Be
sides. the game disclosed the fact that
the army team has In Beavers and
Greble, two splendid kickers. Cornell,
JACK WADDELL IS
BACK IN GOOD STANDING.
Cambridge, Mass., Nov. 13.—The ad.
nflnlstrutlve board of Harvnrd has re
moved the > probation which hae en
cumbered Jack Waddell, the crack half
back. the entire season and he will bo
In Saturday's game against Dartmouth.
Secret practice, which will be the
dally order the rest of the season, is
bring held now and ,aereral new for
mations and plays are being tried.
The men are being driven hard and
the coaches administer much hard
criticism.
HORRID GLOOM HANGS
OVER PRINCETON, N. J.
Princeton, N. J.. Nov. 13.—If the pes.
slmlattc views of the coaches can be
taken at thetr face value the football
situation at Princeton Is enough to
strike gloom Into the hearts of even the
most loyal of the sons of old Nassau.
After the secret practice when ques
tioned as to the condition of the men
nnd the nature - of the practice, the
coaches had nothing but hard luck talet,
to tell. A certain amount of this must
be discounted, but the fact remains
that the condition of the team at this
time Is very questionable, as ahown
by the game with Amherst
GLEASON GETS
NEXT PERMIT
SAM LANGFORD
BEAT JACKSON
SMITH AFTER
OTTO CRUMP
Sun Francisco. Sot. 1*.—The De-
ctmbtr prise fight permit It no longer
wlll-o'-the-wlsp. The supervisors
yesterday granted the coveted sanction
to Jack Gleason and the Ketcholl-
Thomas context now loom* up In red
letter* on the puglllttlc calendar. There
at tome opposition to the grunting of
the tanctlon.
Gleason says hr will put young
Ketchfll and Joe Thomaa In the rlns
at the baseball park on the night of
December 12. The context will be
handled under a huge canvax roof,
which will encircle the grand viand on
one tide. Ketchell, It lx undemtood.
will train at Miller’*.
CARLISLE 18 READY
TO MEET MINNESOTA.
New York. Nov. II.—On the eve of
their departure for Minneapolis, where
they will play the Mlnnexotu eleven,
the Carlisle players probably had the
most severe practice they have had
during the season.
Every line ff football activity which
It Is possible f«> covet In two hours and
half was Indulged In. Coach Warner
developed the practice Into a scrim -
mgr between the first und get on*I
elevens.
Ichmond team of the Virginia State
League next year.
Jake Wells, who haa been In Atlanta
for a few days, has,closed the deal and
the hustling mogul of the Macon club
will do stunts In ths Virginia lean#
next year.
BILL SMITH HAS DRAFTED
ANOTHER CATCHER FOR 'OS
BUI Smith made another addition to
hie baseball team of 1*08 Wednesday
when he drafted Koopman. a catcher,
from the Johnstown team of the Trl-
Btate League.
BUI haa been a bit shy on catchers
UP to the present. The sale season
cleaned him out, and while he had
managed to round up a couple of new
men, he wanted to be on the safe side.
Bo he has been on the hunt for a
catcher for some time.
1-ast week Bill tried to round up
Owens, the lengthy young catcher of
the Memphis team. Memphis haa four
catchers besldra him, and It was
learned here that Babb wanted to get
rid of thla man.
But when terms were wired for,
Memphis club owners ducked and de
cided suddenly that they would hold
the man a while longer.
Thla Tri-State man who ha. b«n
dratted was reported as the racunu
beat catcher In the league. New York
got the beat one and BUI Smith fe»U
that he has done well to round up M
good a man.
It I* not Improbable that Bill mar
sign one more catcher.- provided hr ran
always a good propoiltlon to havt
plenty of catchers before the waaon
opens, and Bill will be right there la
1901 with a husky bunch of backatop*.
HELP! HELP! J. O'BRIEN WILL
RETURN TO THE PRIZE RING
Pittsburg. Nov. 13.—Philadelphia retire from the prtxe ring and that M
Jack O'Brien and Jack Johnson are aa
good aa matched for the heavy weight
championship of the world. O'Brien,
who Is appearing thla week at a local
theater, on Monday announced that he
had reron.ldered hla determination to
Toledo to Train
would meet either Burns or Johnxoa.
8am Fltxpatrick, Johnson'* manazrr.
oiiiii I li*|i<ltl It A, *|Uil•*■<#•* m ~ j
heard of O'Brien's defy and stoppw
over In Pittsburg to accept the chal
lenge. They will meet today and
the papers.
here, half of which will be with South
ern League teams and the ram*'"?'’
with big league aggregations, clnrin-
natl will train nt Anniston, Ala., «J*
at Chattanooga reported, nnd It 1* probable thaj tJJJj
Los Angeles, Cal., Nov. 13.—Sam
Langford, the Boston negro, won his
fourth battle over Young Peter Jack*
non. hts prototype, so far as else Is
(oncertted, last night, after one of the
hardest fought contests ever witnessed
In the local arena.
The men fought a battle which would
have.been unanimously accepted as a
draw up to and Including the four
th nth round, and there wan no second
of time lust by either man—a steady
min of blows being exchanged that
would have put an ordinary fighter to
sleep. After the fourteenth round,
however, Langford began to steadily
gain a slight advantage, retaining more
strength than hie opponent, but the
succeeding rounds up to and Including
the twentieth, were contested so bit*
terly by Young Peter that many of the
ni>ertatoix were unable to select the
heat man at the end.
However, to those by the ringside. It
was plain that Jackson was the weaker
of the two and was being- forced to,
hold on to sa\'e himself. Both tnen|
Chattanooga, Tenn., Nor. 13.—Bill
Smith Is after Otto Trump, a local
pitcher who worked successfully In the
City League last season. Crump has
been watched by a number of man
agers. Last season Bernie McCay tried
to get him by w ire. .Cramp did not
want to go to Mobile and wired Bernie
to that effect. B. Me. came back at
him. asking him for his terms. Crump
wired back a targe sum, expecting tliai
McCay would then pay no further at
tention to him. To his surprise the
Mobile manager accepted and told him
to report. This Crump did not do. but
he Is afraid that McCay will hold him
next season If he decides to go into
professional baseball. Crump Is a
boiler-maker and says that he can earn
53 per day here, working for eight
hours. Under those circumstances he
doesn't care much about playing base
ball. The kid Is a hard worker—either
ptlchlng or making boilers—and
noted for leading the simple life.
DO IT NOW!
ulsplay.il more of slugging ability than j smoke KE-M. medicated tobacco, cure
*>rd holding u ,light for
lencc, with Langford holding a allflu’for cold*, catarrh, uthma
advantage. “rug aod cigar (lures.
Special to The Georgian.
Chattanooga, Tenn., Nor. It.—Man
ager Bill Armour, of the Toledo Amer-
two Ohio teams will play quite a num
ber or* "
“games with each other.
Pari* ha* taken up le boxe American
with a fourteenth century gallic ,tT ‘
lean Association League, hae ctoied a vor. and there Is no place of public '
.1,. .... - inn— sembly too sacred to house a so ree »»
contract for the use of a local park aa ..ken up
tlie training ground of the "Mud Hens" I fj'hSre andlhev bora learned *"l
for next season. The Toledo team will M.Jeffrira ‘m* G a n , M Bures,
arrive here March 15 and remain until After some' of our promoters pug"" 1 '
April 5. Manager Armour expects to: ti, |U e have sw-anned upon them >**»
piny about twelve exhibition garnet, may be disenchanted.
You may buy coffee which
costs you a trifle less than
Arbuckles* Ariosa Coffee, but
you really pay more for it and
do not get as good coffee.
Don’t get confused—Arbuckles’ Ario»a
Coffee is really the cheapest good coffee in
the world.
Ip sealed packages for your protection!
AHBUCKLB BROS.. New York City.
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