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THE ATLANTA GEORGIAN AND NEWS. THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 21,1907.
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S. I. A. A. EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETS ON PRIDAY
EDITED BY
| P.H.. WHITING
I NOT NEWS, BUT VIEWS
By PERCY H. WHITING.
If the stormincss of the storm varies in a direct ratio with
the calmness of the calm that precedes it, then there is going to
he the very dickens of a time here Friday morning when the ex
ecutive committee of the S. I. A. A. meets to take action on the
suspension of Tech and Georgia.
Right now the calm is that of the sphinx, or the frozen
.north, or Fairbanks—something vast and cold and still.
Be not deceived, though. The coming hearing is going to be
warm to the very limits of heat and the facts and figures that
will come out will be startling.
While the calm is still “on” it might not be a foolish idea to
have another look at those eligibility rules suggested by Caspar
Whitney. Here they are again:
(1) That a man must be a bona fide student of a university
to be eligiblo to represent his college on the athletic field.
(2) That his class room reoord must be up to a certain stand
ard of excellence in order for him to be given the privilege of
trying for a place on any of the college athletic teams.
(3) That he must be an amateur.
The more you look at them the better you like them.
•Think how easy it would be to know the rules and enforce
them. Just give a printed slip containing them to every man in
every college, mark it “HONOR SYSTEM” in bright red let-
tors and the trick is turned.
With such rules, backed up by the honor system, ovory man
in every S. I. A. A. college would be, in effect, a district vice
president.
There would be no questions requiring interpretation of
those rules. It is easy enough to know whether a man is a bona
fide student or not. His class room records will show where he
stands. And his friends are bound to be in a position to tell
whether or not he is an amateur.
The sport world of America needs a little education over this
word “amateur” as applied to college sport—in fact, to all sport.
The undersized dictionary by which the sporting editor set
tles such questions of spelling ns he docs not "put up” to tho lin
otype operators and the proof-reader, defines nn amateur as “a
person attached to a pursuit . . . from taste . , . with
out pursuing it professionally.”
The S. I. A. A. does not give a definition of nn amateur. It
does tell, however, what a professional’is. The definition follows:
“A professional athlete is a man who has at any time received
directly or indirectly money or any other consideration to play on
a team or for his athletic services as conch, trainer, athletic or
gymnasium instructor or who has competed for a money prize or
a portion of the gate money in any contest or who has competed
for any prize against a professional.”
Tho point is that n man who hns gone into college sport for
money is a professional. The man who goes into it for the love of
it, or for his physical improvement or for tho love of his alma
mater is an amateur.
In n measure tho S. I. A. A. has an honor system in force at
present. But it seems that the men are not sufficiently put upon
their honor.
To make nn honor x- stem work out properly you (have to
have it not only in ope. ion but you must have every man
under it understand that he is upon his honor and not being
watched.
An honor system would work out very well in the South. If
the student bodies of the various colleges were put on their hon
or to keep athletics clean, on a basis of some such rules as those
proposed, they would bo kept clean.
Nobody who has been to college doubts that every flagrant
case of “ringing” that was ever pulled off in any college was
worked with tho knowledgo of most of the students. It can not
well be otherwise. A college community is a great big gos
siping family, and it does not take the news long to spread.
Maybe we should not have clean nthleties under nn honor
system.
Certainly we have not had consistently clean athletics under
a system of multitudinous rules, district vice presidents, faculty
nenr-supervision and lively suspicion of every eollcgo by every
other college.
When this “crool” war is over and the S. I. A. A. executive
committee has promulgated its rulings and those Thanksgiving
Day games have been played it is up to the athletic enthusiasts
of the state of Georgia to get together and see if something can
not be done to prevent a repetition of such a yenr in colleeg ath
letics as this last one has been.
HERE IS A NOTED INDIAN FOOTBALL PLAYER
PUGILISTIC HALL OF FAME
STIRS UP BIG ARGUMENT
■pedal to Tho Georgian.
Hattiesburg, Ml»», Nov. *1.—Out In
San Francisco the fighting Impresa
rios have founded what they call a pu
gilistic hall of fame, and their nomina
tions have not met with universal ap
proval. Messrs. Colfroth et al. chose
those who are to be honored, and their
list, or rather the fact that they have
overlooked some great fighters, Is caus
ing considerable comment among fol
lowers of the squared circle.
"That’s a great list, of course," said
Charles Rich, of this city, who backed
Jake Kllraln and was responsible for
the fight that took place between him
and John L Sullivan, “but they have
left out some better men than they
put In. Everybody will admit that
when they left out John L they omit
ted the greatest real fighter America
has ever known.
"Not because I backed him, but be
cause I knew him, and know that he
has entered the ring when he knew he
would be beaten and fought like a
tiger against awful odds, I believe that
Kllraln was the gamest fighter that
ever entered the ring. Even after It
was plain that he had lost, he would
not let me throw up the sponge. He
fought until he was unable to put up
his hands.
"In my opinion. Kid McCoy Is the
cleverest fighter that ever lived. He
made a success too early. He lost his
head, and had a poor manager after his
triumphs In South Africa, and went
the pace that will knock out any fight
er. Everything considered. I think Joe
Choynakt was the hardest nut for the
average pugilist to crack. But Charley
Mitchell was the smartest fighter I
ever knew. Why? Because he couldn't
win fights, but he could get the money,
and he hung on to it.
“No, with the exception of Jeffries,
Corbett, Choynskl and Cans, they are
all broke. Mr. Kllraln owns a fine
residence In Baltimore, but that Is all
he has got, except a good salary as Sul
livan’s sparring partner. Even George
Dixon, once owning a great deal of
valuable real estate. Is without a dollar
today. No. I think some of the men I
have mentioned ought to go In that hall
of fame.”
Those selected by Promoter Coffroth
for his "temple,” where they will ap
pear In ltfe-slxe marble statues, are
Jeffries, Corbett. Fltaslmmons, Demp
sey. Lavlgne, Young Mltcheli, Dixon.
Walcott, Gans and Peter Jackson, six
white and four black men.
SOME FEW FACTS ABOUT
SOUTHERN FOOTBALL SEASON
Largest Score—SO scored by Miss. A. & M. on S. W. B. L\
Scored Most Point*—Sewnnee. IIS.
Scored Least Points—Mississippi S.
Most Points Scored on—Mississippi, ISO.
Least Points Scored on—Sewnnee and Tennessee, 10 each.
Rough Ranking of First Twelve Teams of 8. I. A. A.—Vanderbilt,
Sewnnee, Auburn. Tech, Tennessee, Mist. A. A M., Clemson, Georgia. Ala-
"^mo^Mercer. Mississippi, 8. W. P. U
ISieSHOMSSSHOOSHMSI
1©
This gent is Lubo, the captain of the Carlisle team. He la a tireless, aggressive, hard-muscled, hardened Individual and plays rattling good
football.
iMIMSMOHHSHI
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• HMHSSISHSSIH1I
SMILING JOHN
LANDS AGAIN
Malarkey Signed to Succeed
Perry Lipe on Macon
Team.
PRACTICING STEADILY AT TECH;
HARD LUCK YEAR MAY END WELL
John Mallarkey, he of the smiling
countenance and the chesty stride, will
lead the Macon forces next year.
The ex-Montgomery mogul has been
secured to succeed Perry Llpe, and will
at once begin work at gottlng his team
together.
Mullarkey proved a good manager
last year, though an unlucky one, and
ought-to be able to hold his end up In
the Sally League. Ae a pitcher, he
ranked among the best In tho South
last year, and he will be among the
topnotchere In the South Atlantic.
GEORGIA’S COACH.
Out at Tech field the practice Is go
ing fnrwntd steadily iheee days for the
Thanksgiving game against Clemson,
end a serene confidence Is expressed
that the Yellow Jackets will be back
In good standing In time for that bat
tle.
The weather this week has been any
thing but favorable for football work.
The heavy ground, rainy atmosphere
and extreme heat have combined to
make hard work almost out of the
question.
But football practice Is going on and
Tech hopes to close a hard luck sea
son by defeating her stout rival, the
Clemson team.
The hard-luck howl does not get
anybody anything but there Is no
doubting but that Tech has had mure
than her fair share of misfortune this
year.
Thors Is small use In disinterring
any of the hopes of the defunct past,
hut a month before the season opened
It looked as though Tech were going
to have a team.
Most of the aggregation of colts
which performed so gamely In 1906 was
sure to return. In addition the Tech
authorities were counting nn Cofer,
n ighty halfback of the Soldlei- team;
Sims, the hefty player from Dahlone-
ga; llcnry Williams, the speedy back
from Gordon Institute, and so many
other good men that the fear of a sur
plus of material was felt.
One by one most of the stars twinkled
icebly a couple of times and then set,
quietly but permanently. Cofer couldn’t
get In college, Sims went down with
typhoid, Williams went to Vanderbilt
nnd several other real wonders who
were expected never even showed up
for work.
The line, from tackle to tackle, did
not suffer much from the time the
Heason opened, chough Clyde Brown
broke his hand nnd was out of a gamo
or two.
Hill has played well, but the faculty
has been on his trail several times and
things have looked rretty leary. How
ever, Coach Helsman hns had a lot of
good ends to choose from and has not
worried much.
The other end at the first of the rea
son was Chip Robert, a brilliant play
er, with plenty of speed, a marvelously
good head and grit to born. Robert
played a brilliant game until the first
down In the Georgia game. Then Chip
went out with a twisted elbow Joint.
His place was filled In by Jones, a
steudy player, but no match for Rob
ert.
In 1906 Robert did the quarterback
stunt. But this year Coach Helsman
felt that he was more needed ns an
end nnd therefore he made a quarter
back out of Buchanan. And a good
Job It was, too. “Buck” ran the team
well and proved the best man at catch-
ink punts that Tech field has ever seen.
"Buck,” like Robert, lasted to the
Georgia game. Then he dlsloteated a
knee Joint and retired. In his place
was put "Kid” Hightower, a gritty
chap and a good quarterback. With
a bit more weight he would be an all-
Southern man sure.
There has not been much change nt
the halfback position, compared with
some of the othere. But Fltxelmmone,
cne half, was forever getting the front
of his face kicked in. And Sweet, tho'
other, had the misfortune to get his
chest stove In. and In tho Vanderbilt
game he was handed a dislocated
shoulder.
The fullback position hoe been the
prize hard luck Job. One man after an.
ether tried It and passed on. Adamson,
.Sweet, Sims, Luck and Johnson all had
a trial at It. Davis Is to be the next
victim.
It has been a season of sad disap
pointments, but there Is a chance that
the finish may prove a llttlo blighter
than It promised to be a month ago.
Tho thing that will bring cheer to
the local camp wll be the defeat of
Clemson, and right now that looms up
as a decided possibility.
And If that trick Is turned Tech
hackers will be satisfied.
“BUGS”
ISN’T
DEAD
Story to That Effect Is Only
Another “Raymond
Hoax.”
Is "Bugs” Raymond dead?
Probably not.
A report came out of Chicago Mon-
day night'that the ex-Sally League
pitcher had been run over by a trol
ley car nnd killed.
The dispatch gave some of the grew,
some details. Here they are:
Chicago, Nov. 19.—Albert Raymond,
cne of the promising young pitchers of
the St. Louie National League ball
club, lies dead In St. Elizabeth's Hos
pital of this city as a result of a street
car accident late Monday night. Ray
mond was crossing North avenue at
Elston avenue Just as an Elston avenue
car struck him .md ground him under
the wheels.
Hid body was badly mangled, one
r.rm and one leg as well as several rlbe
telng broken end Internal Injuries also
being evident. He was taken to St.
Elizabeth Hospital, but he died quickly
without regaining consciousness.
But now comes another dlspatoh
which seems to indicate that the flrit
story was another "Bugs" hoax. Here
Is the dope:
Chicago. Nov. t9.—The report In clr.
culatlon here last night, and gener
ally published In the morning papers,
that "Bugs” Raymond, a member of thi
St. Louis Cardinals' pitching corps, had
been run over and killed by nn Elston
avenue car when he was crossing North
avenue at Elston avenue, may not be
tiue.
It was said that he was removed to
St. Elizabeth Hospital, where he died
without regaining consciousness. The
hospital authorities stated at noon that
no such man had been taken there dur
ing the night or at any other time.
A couple of weeks ago "Bugs" Ray.
mend was reported to have been
thrown Into the river and drowned. Tho
"story" proved to bo a fake. It is now
thought that the report of Raymond
being run over and killed by a car Inst
night Is also incorrect.
GORDON INSTITUTE HAS A KICK COMING
To Sporting Editor Atlanta Georgian:
The Gordon football team returned
homo from Macon a sadder but wiser
crew Sunday morning, nfter encoun
tering orte of the boldest hold-ups ever
witnessed on a civilised football field.
I have seen a great many athletic
contests on many different fields, but
never before have I witnessed such
unfair treatment as was accorded the
Gordon team by the referee and umpire
In Macon Saturday.
Time and again they were penalised
when even the Mercer rooters could
see no foul they had committed, while
the Mercer team was allowed the prlvl.
lege of lining up behind Gordon's line
of scrimmage without any protest from
the officials In charge.
Again I repeat, that such flagrant
disregard of the rules of the game
and such aibltrary officials have never
before come to my attention. Nor can
I believe that the Mercer student body
nnd coach are responsible, for on sev
eral occasions Coach Schenker, be It
said to his credit, had the referee right
very gross wrongs against Gordon.
It was simply a case of two men
unaccustomed to the duties they were
attempting to perform. Such violations
of the rules by the ofllclals as the
ones below mentioned were frequent:
Gordon kicks and the ball touches a
Gordon player 16 or 10 yards in ad
vance of the spot where the ball was
put In play before touching the ground:
the referee bursts Into the game with,
"Oh, yes, I saw you that time;” brings
the ball bark to the spot where It was
put In play and penalises Gordon 15
yards for touching the ball before a
Mercer man touched It or It had hit
the ground.
Again, Mercer punts, but the kick Is
low and hits one of Mercer's forwards
before a Gordon player touches it or
the ball hlta the ground. Referee, "Mer
cer's ball, first down, ten yards to
gain.” In vain Captain Prout would
try to protest, and asked the referee
to please look up the rule on the point,
but was Invariably met with the ad
monition, ‘‘Go on and play ball.”
On the third down, Mercer, If they
had not gained their distance, which
we will say here they never did at
all In the first half and only four or five
time* in the second, would drop the
ball and then fall on It before any other
player could get to it. The referee
would then give Mercer the ball, with
first down, saying the ball had been
fumbled. Many other violations of
the rule* were In evidence and alweya
worked against Gordon.
While sitting l« the lobby of the
Lanier at Macon 1 heard several travel
ing men who had witnessed the game
remarking on the very unfair treat-
meat the “little fellows,”.a* they des
ignated Gordon, had received. The
same remarks were heard while riding
In on the car and came from men who
seemed to have been disinterested, ex
cept that they wanted to see a fair
deal.
But If anywhere the feeling was
abroad that Gordon had received a
raw deal. It W’aa on Mercer campus
aqd here It was so Intense you could
feel It.
We believe that a team losing should
take l|s medicine, but a team losing as
Gordon did Saturday deserves that the
truth be known. A SPECTATOR.
Bamesvllle, Ga., Nov. 16. 1907.
TECH NOT TO
PLAY MERCER
Mercer and Tech will not play Sat
urday.
If the executive committee of the S.
I. A. A. should, at the meeting Friday,
take up the Tech case first, dispose of
It and reinstate the local team It might
be possible to pull off the Mercer-
Tech game Saturday.
But there will be nothing doing
Neither team nor the public Is anx
ious for that gome and it le off for
sure.
SOUTHERN FOOTBALL SCORES OF 1907
ALABAMA- I 12 Tech rf HOWARD- I MI8H. A. * M.-
17 Maryville « 12 <i«n:«nu 0 6 8. \\. li. U r J * 8. W. P, U
3) UlsusslDld Mercer e, 0 Ai htim ...a
4 Sewnnee SI 6 Alabama 61 S Ml«» A. A M. ..13 ?
59 Tntnlrt
AttKAXMAM—
0 Haskell
23 Drurr
BOCOCK. « st. IsonU
Here fa the Georgetown player ,? JHf* '
who took George Whitney's place. ,j £V. V.
YALE LEAVES HOME.
New Haven. Nov. 21.—The Yale team g A* C.
will leave here thin afternoon for Au- 2 U.lIfJiru
bumdale. Mo**., where it will remain S SoSon*
until the Harvard game. The coaches < H.-wnnee”
expect a hardship with Harvard.
>209 Total* ....
.. M CLEMSON—
—I 5 «Minion
N2i Maryville ...
12 Howard ...
mh. w. b. u.
75 Mercer o
6 Drury ..
11 L 8. U.
4 TeaneiMee U
...77
till Total*
» . M Kit*'KU—
0 Tennessee 4 6 florid*
M15 North Carolina.. 6 c Heorjtta ......
• Auburn 12 12 Howard
« Davidson ........19) o Auburn
r. _ H 5 Gordon .......
,.12148 Total* .....22 —
.11 GKOUGIA- a 29 Total*
-|S7 Dabloiiega • MISSISSIITI-
lennetace 15 a Alabama Alabama 4
M.-re-r 6 g $!o KtntH Nor. ..121 65 Mis*ix*tpi>i o
i D Alnlwtai* 0 0 Sewnnee 651 12 Virginia 0
[ 6 Tech V 0 Vanderbilt M M Tech 0
Mf 0 L. *4. U <S| 16 Georgia
•{195 Total* ....
HKI\*ANEE-
[ 23 Mooney o
I » piss A. A M. .. c
..47 t Totals
..lfl0j23S Total*
TECII-
51 Gordon .......... 0 40 Kentucky 0
70 Dahlonega ....... 0
6 Tennesaec 4 ® Roae Poly 10
143 Totals
TENNESSEE—
21 T. M. C.
15 Georgia ...*
4 Teeb
4 Clemson
36 Mrayvllle
57 l\ of Chat. .
0 Kentucky ....
VANDERBILT-
TO HOLD
MEETING
FRIDAY
S. I. A. A. Executive Com
mittee Gets Together
Then.
The meeting of the executive com
mittee of the Southern Intercollegiate
Athletic Association will be held In the
assembly room of .the Piedmont Hotel
Friday morning, beginning at 10 o’clock.
The first date set was Saturday, but
this has been shoved back to Friday,
perhapa because It will be practically
Impossible to finish the Investigation la
one day.
The members of the executive com
mittee of the S. I. A. A. are: Dr. W. L
Dudley, Vanderbilt University; W. M.
Riggs, Clemson College; E. T. Holmes,
Mercer University; Thomas B. Boyd,
Louisiana State University, and B. L
Wiggins, University of the South (8e-
wanee).
Presumably all five will -be present.
Certainly Dr. Dudley, Professor Riggs
and Professor Holmes will be In At
lanta for the excitement, and very
probably Vice Chancellor Wiggins, of
■Sewnnee, will be on hand also. As Pro
fessor Boyd Is not In the argument, hs
may ‘'duck" the game.
Just what the order (jf business will
be Is a decidedly uncertain matter.
As Georgia was suspended first, prob
ably her case will be the first one
heard. The defense has not been an
nounced, but It Is understood that, to
the charge of using “ringers" on tt»
Georgia team, a plea of “guilty "o' 1
extenuating blrcumstances" will be en
tered. It t* stated that the Georgia
men will admit that Ineligible men
were played on the team, but will deny
that the athletic director, any members
of the faculty or anybody In power
save the coach knew anything about
the affair.
Tech's defense will be a complete d«-
nlal of all Irregularities and an attempt
will be made to dlaprove all charge*
made.
Then the executive committee «*«
decide whether or not the suspensions
are to be made permanent.
« Navy 6
H Miss. A. & M.
lOllSl' Totals
^64 Tech '.'."V. 0
!»t Totals 54
VIRGINIA—
5 Davidson 6
o SSitlehmond 0
0 22 Bt. Johns 4
,, 6 k) Gallaudet 0
.. 0 M V, sr. I :.u
••6 9 North Carotins.. 4
.• « a Beirnnee 12
• 0 5 W. A u 6
.. 4 2S Georgetown ..... 6
..10 163 Totals ,... 54
"GUM SHOES”
WORKED FINE
Murphy-Keyes Fight Ended
by Police, Who Raid
Fight Club.
Philadelphia, Nov. M.—The po«£
stopped the Tommy Murphy-**
Keyes fight last night, which was
have taken place at the Sharkey A
letlc Club. It waa a swell raid.
gum shoea worked to perfection
the sporta were done to a turn.
Jack Blackbum,_ the neg^o
fight*?