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the Atlanta Georgian AN't> xews: Monday, December c mi.
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BASKET BALL IS ABOUT ALL THAT’S LEFT NOW
EDITED BY j
PERCY H. WHITING
J
flews und^icKis
' ^ (MO&nX THEtLATTER^T __
HE WON HIS BET
The row over at Charleston, where a bunch of Citadel Supporters at
tached the field Judge In the South. Carollna-Cltadel game, la a nasty bint on
Southern athletics. - -- .
A lot of hoodlums were directly .responsible for the attack. , ,
But who Is responsible for the bad feeling between the'South Carolina
and Citadel men that made such on attack possible?.
perhaps It would not be fair to say thqtthc college authorities are; we
do esy with extreme positiveness, tlio that the college authorities cguld pre
vent any such outbreak. Look at what the Tech and Georgia authorities
have been able to do toward keeping down displays of bad feeling between
Teeh and Cecilia. Little as you might think It, the very "best colleges have
the same battle to fight. We heard the freshman class at Harvard, back In
■99, take a long lecture In on English period on the w retched taste and the
possible bad results which would follow If they persisted In singing what
was then the popular Cambridge'ditty, entitled "To H—1 With Yale." The
point brought out then by the college authorities was that gentlemen didn’t
do such things and that unless a man was a gentleman he didn't belong In
college.
The point which Interests Is that the college authorities are the men
who can prevent outbreaks of bad feeling. Thfey can do It .by campaigns of
education.
And here's another opinion, the college authorities can prevent most,
maybe all, of the athletic crookedness now ramjlhnt—if they care to. And
they can do It In the same way—by educating their men up to a higher
standard of athletic morals.
Whenever an. extremely flagrant case of using "ringers” comes to light, '
you can generally demonstrate that the fault ultimately lies with the high-
ett college authorities. They will usually claim that they did not know
what was going on. But they should > have. Surely there Is Importance In
keeping college men from becoming athletic crooks—so - much Importance
that college presidents and deans and such can’t well afford to overlook It.
A movement ought to be started by college presidents and men In au
thority among the Southern colleges which would result In educating college
men up to higher standards of athletic niuralx tyid toward a,better feeling
toward the students of other colleges, Until this Is done we shall have ath
letic crookedness and athletic rows—for no rules can cure the one and no
mere newspaper suggestions the other.
The annual "big holler" list of football deaths'aftfl injuries makes Inter
filing reading this year. If you believe the “antis," the. game caused thir
teen deaths and 47 serious Injuries this yddr. 1
If you analyze the list, tho, n Jot of entertaining facts ore brought to
light. For one thing, tour of the thirteen deaths charged against 1911 foot T
bell occurred In 1910, all of them at least nine months before the 1911 sea-
eon started. ■ 1 ■ ‘
That cuts It down to nine deaths. One of these nine charged against
football resulted, as follows: Ralph Dlmlck, of Portland, Oreg., was Injured
In a football game and taken to the hospital. - Ho became delirious and
threw, himself from a'window. From the Injurte/i received, in tlie fall he
died, or course football was Indirectly responsible for this death. But a
verdict of "murder In the first degree" could hardly bo returned against the
famous American sport In this particular case.
Of the remaining deaths directly traceable to- football, Just one resulted
In a college game. And this one blotted out a man on the Montana College
of Agrtculturo team, of Bozeman, Mont. You can readily Imagine that this
was a mighty Important college and had a lot of finely trained men.
I Seven of the football deaths of the year happened In grammar school.
I high school and athletic club game*. i
I And this goes to prove a contention we have often made—that football
le no game for untrained, half-developed men. Football should not be al
lowed In schools unless there Is a competent coach, trainer or physical di-
"WMbf'In Tjhsrge. Any scho.ll rnn Whack Upra-Bilschair'M9Cm' '61- d'track ;
t«wm. But when a team Is developed for. n game of bodlfy eneounter.lt ftuist
bs well trained or bad Injuries may result. This' Is the reason why Athletic.
club games arc crimes. The players are In bad condition and liable to ac-.
cldents of a most serious character. 1
From the standpoint of reasonable men, the 1911 football season has
been extremely notable for the lack of serious Injuries and deaths a .pong
wtil-tralnod teams. Only one man op a college'team was killed. The Other
deaths were all among poorly trained, teams which should not have been
allowed to engage In such a strenuous game as football.
Speaking of that, we rise again ({this must be about the forty-eighth
time) to express the hope that the Atlanta Prep league Wilt take'up soccer
football and give It a trial, The effort at a f league season for teams play-
leg American college football proved p Juke, as all knew; It'must. Not In
ten years, nor In twenty, will the schools In Atlanta be on a basis to make
American football a success. With afralrs its they are now( a sdccer league
could b'e made'a tremendous success. The local prep league will have to go
to It or pass up fall sports entlsely.
H.F. MAXWELL I
DIES MONDAY!
Mechanician Who Was Hurt
When Jay McNay Was Killed
Gives Up Fight for Life.
AN OLD-TIMER
Savannah, Ga„ Dec. 4.—HI F.' itdxi
well, the Case car mechanician who was
seriously hurt when Jay McNay met
1 tragic death In the Grand Prise prac-
Ice on November 20, died party today.
THORPE NAMED
TO LEAD TEAM
Famous All-Round Athlete Is
Chosen by Carlisle Men to
Captain the Indians.
IWINTER BALL
FOR_FLORIDA
Charley Murphy Is Planning a
League Where Major Re
cruits Can Be Tried Out.
Chicago, Doc. 4.—Winter baseball, ytj
•ns, Is a thing which may yet come to
a«s If' the plans of C. Webb Murphy,
bsries Ebbetts and other Inventive
Plrtts are successfully concluded. Not
t your door, to be sure, on a field eov-
md with snow and Ice, nor within an
nclosure to protect both players und
peolstors from tho elements, but "win.
e V blse ball, nevertheless, In Florida,
'here the sun blilnes the whole year
eund and the wind Is devoid of nippy
ting.
The brilliant Idea was conceived and
ourlshed Into shape at the recent
"fling 0 f baseball notables at San
ettonlo. How 1 much of It Is original
jjtb C. Webb, be, In his modesty, de-
iines to state, but the gusto with which
'discussed the proposition yesterday Is
'Menee enough that the Cubs’ presl-
* m , thinks that at least one man-
terta] problem has been solved,
foremost In the minds of those who
nrung the scheme was the opportunity
l, * ould afford club owners‘to try out
■syers which they secured at the end
■ I"* Preceding season, both by draft
Purchase, before the regular spring
naming trip, for, according to present
Ifni, only such players would be ell-
,7* to play on the eight clubs which
i" proposed shall constitute the new
Inter league.
Eight Cities Already Named,
wording to the tentative plans, Pen-
Iscola. Sarasota, Key West, St. Augtis.
I" 1 '. Miami, Tampa, Ormond and Palm
”»ch are tho eight dtles selected to
P™ too honor of being placed upon
n«w baseball map. November 1
If* been named as the opening ot the
f* on , with February 1 Its close, games
”* P ,s yed on Thursday, Saturday and
Sunday, with double-headers on
j.bjnkglvlng day, Christmas and New
Because the cheme, bo far, has been
*iner®4 by National league magnate?,
**• f°t to be supposed that the Amer-
*n league fs to be left out In the cold.
The American league Is to bo
to go in on the new venture and
t"* benefits along with the older
' r *anizatton.
Team Is Selected
For Atlanta Game
Athens, Ga., Dec. 4.—The men who will
compose the basket ball, team of the local
Y. M7 £. X.', which will’play the Atlanta
Athletic dub in Atlanta December 9, have
Just been — - -
ed from tl .
league Just closed.
The squad from v
picked is as follows.
Clarence Rawson. Claire Heidler, Albon
Woods, Howell Peacock, Andrew Krwin.
.Too O’Farrell, Malcolm Vonderau, Pal
Lamkin. Rubenstein. Julian Liddell and
Gullle Bolden. Almost all of these men
hav«* played on college or other teams,
ifesflor C. .0. Heidler. who has had a
DANIEL SAKGENT.
Harvard Junior .who kicked a football
an milts for a bet of |60(): Th* wager
sprang from a football argument. One
of the 1 students taunted Sargent, say
ing; "You couldn't kick a football
across the' street." "I can kick one
from here to Ipswich," retorted Sar
gent, "and I am willing to bet JBOO on
It." The wager was made, Other stu
dents got op one side or.the other with
bets and Sargent started out a S o'clock,
in the morning. The conditions of the
bet forbade him from touching the ball>
with his hands. However, he won, and
arrived at the destination—30 mile*
dlstarit-i-wlthout.'partlcnlar. trouble. His
greatest difficulty was encountered
when the football went crooked and
bounded Into a creek. After much ma
neuvering, her got it out and resumed
the Journey. At Its conclusion ho waa
bustled Into an dutbmpblle with sev-i
eral other students who witnessed the
stunt and warmed up "both external
ly and internally” on the way back to'
Harvard square, where the .Marathon
began, and where he was given rousing
cheers upon fils triumphant return.
? DOOIN WANTS TO QUIT, X
BUT FOGEL REFU8E8+
4 Detroit, Mich.; Dec,.4.—The ef- 4
fort ot Malinger Charles Dooln of 4
'4 the Philadelphia National leaguo 4
+ baseball club to sscuro his re- 4
4- lease so that - lie rrilght acquire at 4
4 least partial Control of the Boston -b
4- National league club, has result- 4
4* ed In a telegram from President 4
4 1 Fogel of the Philadelphia Na- +
4- tlonals which Dooln received here, 4
4- The message stated that Fogel 4-
4* would consider no r deal which 4-
t meant Doom’s departure. 4
The Philadelphia catcher, who Is -!•
4- playing at a local vaudeville the- 4
4- ater. has- made -statements since +
4- his arrival here to the effect-that +
4 he ls nqt satisfied with the salary 4
4- the Philadelphia I club paid him +
■ last season. Jn a! puhllshed Inter- 4-
view ho said, ha experts as much 4-
money If he manages the Philip' *f
dolphin club as former Manager 4-
4> Billy Murray received. State- 4-
4 ments made by Dooln Inf Detroit 4’
4 aeem to Indicate. that he Is not v
Carlisle, Ps., Dee. 4.—While return
ing to Carlisle from the football game
against Brown at. Providence the Car
lisle ; Indian eleven ' elected James
Thorpe, the versatile halfback, captain
of next year's'team. There were two
suggested fqr the position, Thorpe
winning dver Gustave Welch, the quar
terback. whO has been pronounced a
'find by the Indian coaches.
Thorpe Is a Sac and Fox Indian from
Sprague, Okla., and is considered
America's greatest all-around athlete.
He hns been a revelation In the football
world this season, /causing a sensation
In the Harvard game when he kicked
four goals from placement, and In the
Brown .game. U14 which he booted thoi
ball over the cross bars fur two goals.'
This season ended Thorpe's third!
year with the Carlisle Indian eleven, I
and his election as cnptaln-Insures his |
presence here next year. Besldea be
ing all-American football material,
Thorpe Is pre-eminent In traok athlet
ics, and Is a baseball and basket ball
player of ability..
Two Class Games
Played at Tech
/The claes football season opened at
Tech Saturday afternoon.. Two games
were played, the Junlore vs. the Subs,
and the Freshmen ve,' the Seniors. The
juniors won the first game. The sec
ond was a tie.
A great deal of Interest Is being taken
In class football this year and tho games
Saturday were fine, considering the
short time the teams had been prac
ticing. '"
The Juniors won the first game, de
feating the Subs id to 0. The Juniors
outclassed the under classmen at every
stage of the game and won a well-de-
HE IS IMPROVING
satisfied with c-muiiiuu* in Phila
delphia.
rruiomui u. iv. nciumi. nun uu*i n
lot of experience In coaching basket ball
teams. Is the coach, and Dr. Wedfoni
Brown Is manager. The captain will be
elected In a few days.
4* MEMPHIS GRABS TWO MEN. 4-
Memphis, Tenn., Dec. 4.—The 4
4- lorn I bail club has secured Bill 4
4 Absteln Snd Pitcher Kissinger 4
+ from. Jersey ' City., The former 4 ,
4- player - Was graduated. from the 4
4 Southern league Into
4 leagues.
the
JOE FOGLER.
This year’s running of. the historic
■Ix-day bicycle race In Madison Square
Garden promises to be as sensational
as any ever held. With Fogler, Root,
Moran and other cracks entered. It Is
assured that the going will be fast and
furious. It will be the last event of Its
kind ever held in the famous old Gar
den, which will go out of commission
within two months.
served victory. The Bubs,' green line
caused their defeat. The Subs center
practically lost the game In the first
few minutes .of play, when he made
two bad Knaps.
The Juniors made most of their
ground on line plunges by Goebel and'
Hodges. The stars of the game were
Boyd, Hodges and Goebel, for the Jun
iors, and Ooree, Harrison and Reynolds,
for the Subs.
The llne-up was as follows:
Connie Mack Doesn’t Approve
Herrmann’s Extra Game Scheme
New York, Dec. 4 —Not only most of
the magnates, but many ot the man
agers as well.'are opposed to Garry
Herrmann’s scheme to cut the leaguo
schedules down to 112 gainea and finish
the season with each club making a
swing around the circuit of the rival
league. Connie Mack, when the propo
sition was put to him, said:
"I can’t say I am In favor of any
such proposition ns that made by Herr
mann. I can not see where It would
be practicable. I don’t believe In these
games on tile grounds of every other
club, which would mean 4S gainea In
addition to the II2-game schedule.
Mack Opposes Plsn.
"If, on the top of all that, the three
leading clubs from each league would
play s series similar to the world’s ae
ries, the sport would be dragged along
until later than under present condi
tions. and I don’t believe these games
would draw except for the beat clubs. .
"It would be a greA thing for the
Athletics next year, as we would be
playing against such teams as the
Cubs, Giants, Phillies, Pirates and Reds.
But I do not think the weaker clubs
Id gain anything from the novelty;
I don’t think Herrmann’s Idea ever will
be worked out." ' • ’ j
The merry war over the world's sc-,
lies ticket affair Is not the only thing
that 'Is going to wake up New York
during the league meetings. Another
exciting little battle already Is In view,
and with Charley Ebbets and Charley
Mufphy stirring things up on the side
and Garry Herrmann leading the op
position, the visitors are In for a nice
little siege.
Garry Herrmann declares that the
National league season hereafter will
close before October 12. Tho two
Charleys declare with exactly as much
firmness that It won’L Herrmann Is
sahl to be backed up by the New York,
St. Louis, Pittsburg and Boston cluhs
Murphy and Ebbets are making anoth
er desperate effort to hold oh to their
cherished "Columbus day,” which
comes around on October 12, and they
have the Phillies with them. .
To get In that holiday Murphy and
Ebbets held up the playing of the
world's series for a week last fall. With
that date out the National league sea
son could have closed October E. De
spite the fact that the Interest In base
ball Is prartlcally gone by that time,
and nobody cares whether It Is Coluni-
litH (lav or n,,i, Ebbets insists that he
Is going to fight to keep the date.
Herrmann says Ebbets and Murphy
were allowed to have their wav last
year so a* to avert anything that looked
Inharmonious. This time, tho, the oth-
ers are going to run things, and he says
the National league season will close
about October 4, simultaneously with
tho ending of the American league sea
son. That will enable tho two teams to
go right Into the world’s serlea and
wind things up before tho bad weather
sets In.
SMITH WINS AGAIN.
+
v
♦
Memphis, Tenn., Dec. 4.—Alex +
4- Smith, former national, Eastern 4-
4 and Florida open k6lf champion, 4*
4 added another title to a list al- +
4 ready the longest boasted of by +
4 any golfer In America, when he 4*
“ won the first Southern open Cham- 4'
plonshlp here Saturday afternoon, 4*
. defeating a strong field. His score +
4 for the 72 holes of play was 300. 4*
4 Fred McLeod, likewise a former 4*
4 open champion, was second, and 4*
4 Tom McNamara, who led on the 4
4 first day’s play, was third. 4*
HE'S A TERROR
Juniors.
Hook, 1. e
DuBose, 1.
Phlnlsy, I. g
Wilson, c ..
Feldman, r. i
Tate, i. t.. .
Payne, r. e,.
Boyd, I 'apt.,
Sams. r. h..
Goebel, I. It..
Hodges, f..
t..
Subs.
. .... Reynolds, 1. e.
.: .... Harrison, 1. t.
Reed, 1. g.
Hobson, c.
Hull, r. g.
Nugent, r. t.
Gause, r. e.
..Sparks, q.
Goree, Cap*., r. h.
.... Robertson, I. h.
Pekor, f.
The second game wait n real, "sure-
enough” football gqme from start to
finish. The score ended 0 to 0. Th*
Freshmen find the advantage through-
"out. but were unable to infsh over the
■ necessary touchdown. The Seniors held
for downs four times on their own ten
yard line. The defense of both teams
1 was exceptionally good—In fact, some
very fine tackling was done.
| The score was a tie, whlch wa* in ef
fect a moral victory for the Seniors, us
they wore outweighed, and because a
number of the Freshmen team were
sebond varsity men. The fighting spirit
of the seniors was superb.
The stars for the Seniors were Heard,
Hill and Hubert; for the Freshmen, Til
ler and Turner did the best work.
The punting Jn this game was or a
high order. McDonald, for the Fresh
men, should develop Into a grand kick
er. He tried two field goals and missed
the last one by a narrow margin.
The line-up:
Joe Tinker, of the Cubs, says the West
AD WOLGAST.
Lightweight champion of the world
who was stricken with appendicitis on
the eve of his battle with Freddie
Welsh, which wee to have been held
at- I,os Angeles on Thanksgiving day.
Freshmen.
Tiller, Waters, 1. e.
Cheney, 1. g
Crueller, Lang. I. t..
Turndr, e
Linan, r. g
Greer, r. t.: . ...
Pearsons, r. c
Oay, Capt., 1. h... .
Fielder, r. h.,
Stabler, q
McDonald, f
/ Seniors.
.... Sloan, I. e.
,.. Williams, I. g,
Mell, I. t.
Heard, c.
.. .. Bethel, r. g.
.. .. Carson, r. t.
Hull, r. e.
Hill, I. h.
,. Emerson, r. h,
Hubert, Capt., q.
Harris, f.
The Chicago club has signed Jake
Northern, stsr of the Heading club, of the
Trl-Stste league, lust season.
new picture of "Human Bullet'
Wendell, wonderful halfback of the
Harvard eleven, showing his famous
smile. Wendell has a broad grin con
stantly overspreading his features,
whether he Is breaking grub records ut
the training table or smashing his
stocky form thru an opposing rush line.
His bright spirit Is contagious and re
dacts itself In the work of his team
mates. •
THIS WILL BE ABOUT THE LAST FOOTBALL PICTURE THIS YEAR
BASEBALL JOKES
With the season utterly
^one to seed and nothing
much going on, a few dia
mond quips ought to help out .
some. ;
= s By BOZEMAN BULGER. =*"
The Giants, who are touring Cuba, are
very much worried over tho difficulties
they will haye because of their Inability
to speak Spanish. Merkle was down
there two years ago-with the All-Stnr*.
and he tell* a funny story of the timo
when he and Germany Schaefer spent a
half hour In a Cuban restaurant trying
to tell tho waiter In Spanish what they
wanted to eat. They racked their brains
trying to think tf the Spanish word
for "beans.” Schaefer even tried
French by saying "petit pols,” which
means small peas. Merkle, who speaks
German, even tried "awelner flslsch"
for "pork,” but all In vnln. After SO
minutes pf brave effort with tho waiter
looking at them curiously everything
was dead quiet. , ■ . ..
“Bay," finally said tho waiter, "nr,-
you guys trying to order pork anil
beans?" He was from New OrieanR and
coqldn't understand, .tbetr Spanish.
Chief Meyers and Marcana, tho Cu
ban outfielder tor Cincinnati, also got
In bad trying to speak a foreign lan
guage In the presence of a stranger out
West last summer. They were In tho
smoking compartment of a sleeper. The
stranger was smoking a queer,kind of
a cigarette that had nn atrocious smell.
Chief Meyers and Marcana both e;x ik
Spanish fluently and they began to
“pan" the stranger In Spanish. Th» v
■ talked about him nnd his cigarette for
an hour, saying all the mean things
In the world. They felt safe in the fact
that he did not undorntnnd them, and
kept up the roasting until the stranger
arrlved at his destination. As ho anise
to leave th* car he turned nrnund to tile
chief and Mnrcahs and In perfect Span
ish said: "Adlos, Senors.” Chief says
you could have knocked Mm down with
a feather.
While on his recent tour of the coun
try President Taft’s special train hart
to lay up In a little town for more than
an hour after he had finished a long
speech on the tariff. A serious-minded
statesman In tho pnrty noticed a great
crowd gathered around tho railway sta
tion and talking very earnestly. Occa
sionally thoy would go Into the tele
graph office and then continue their
discussion with great vigor.
“Thoy must be Interested In that tar
iff speech," observed one of the presi
dent’s pnrty, as they looked out nf tho
car window. "Suppose I go over and
talk to thorn ?’’
The statesman walked up to tho
crowd, and, addressing those nearest
him, asked: "What seems to be the gen
eral sentiment?"
"Well," replied the man, "we ere
kinder mixed up. Most of us think It.
will be the Giants, but the operator In
there says It .looks like the Athletics."
They had been waiting for the re
turns of the world's series games, it Is
said that Mr. Taft was tho only one In
the party to appreciate the Joke.
Garry Herrmann declares that the
Redland newspapers won’t have n
chance to knock his new manager un
til Christmas. Mr. Herrmann Is going
to wait until that day to name Mm. A
Chicago scribe hit the nail on the head
when h* wrote: "The fans of Cincin
nati are anxious to know who will be
Ihe new manager. They know thev
won't like him, so they would like to
get at him as soon as possible.” Herr
mann knows this Is true, and he says he
Is going to keep them guessing until
Christmas, which will consume almost
as much (pace In the papers as the
knocking that Is to follow. By tho mid
dle of Juno he may be able to get an
other manager, and that will mean Just
that much more free advertising. Carrv
will be a press agent eomo day.
At the next meeting of the two big
‘.leagues an attempt will be made i
adopt a more complete method of r*- ■
cording the work of pitchers. This l-
one branch of the scoring rules that
certainly needs adjustment. For In
stance, here Is a question asked by on.’
of tho fans, and so far nobody lias been
able to answer It satisfactorily.
"In a game at the Polo grounds th.
Giants were two runs behind when they
left the field ond went to bat In the las-
half of the seventh Inning. Crandall
was pitching. The first five men (th,
Pitcher didn't come to bat) went In ami
batted In three runs, enough to win
Matty then went In nnd pitched tin;
lust two Innings. Now. the question Is-
Did Crandall go out nr the gai
An exciting moment in the Pennsylvanla-Cornell football gante playedat Philadelphia on Thanksgiving day,
rsdseming s miscued forward pass. Mercer has no time to toss th# pigskin to his Snd, as a result o? Morris p,
line snd is trying to nsil Mercer, who is defending himself with a straight arm. Mercer te forced to try to »Rirt I
the final game of the_football season,
poor pats.
gar
Chi
Eyrich’* end
Marcer, fullback of Pennsylvania, is
Campaign, Cornell’s big right tackle, has broken thru the Penn
whin the forward tots failed.
th» ciiant* were behind or ahead v
other words. If he was out of the ruum
when the Giants came to the bench.
Matty Rets credit for It. If he was n •'
out of the game until Matty went In.
then the Giants were ahead when Main*
nd Crandall g^t* cred-
How about it?'*