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THE ATLANTA <i K(>K<i I \.\.
CHARTIER ADVOCATE CHARGES
COMPETITOR BACKED DOWN
Bagwell Answers Briscoe in
Reference to $1,000 Chal
lenge for Contest.
"I Am Still Anxious for the
Contest," Says Bagwell.
"My Conditions Ate Six
Weeks in Chartier Against
Three Months in Gra
ham. "I
Mr. A. C. Briscoe, President, Atlanta.
oa.
Dear Sir: We note your reply, aa
published In The Georgian, July 16, to
our letter of June 28, In which we
proposed to contest a ten-day student
of chartier shorthand against any
thlrtv-day pupil of your school.
Tour refusal to enter the contest la
so complete a backdown from your
original proposition, and It Is so ap.
to all w ‘
parent
who have followed this
controversy that you are begging the
question, that we would consider a re
ply entirely uneceasary, but for the
fact that you have made a serious
charge against us, which we cannot
permit to pass unchallenged.
You have charged that In making
public your refusal to enter the con
test at the time we did and under the
circumstances Involved we have disre
garded the proprieties and the ameni
ties of life and have shown an utter
ivant of sympathy, and delicacy of feel
ing.
The extreme delicacy of the matter
forbids us to repeat In an open letter
rour statement of the facts upon which
this charge Is based even for the pur
pose of explanation and defense.
We desire to say that the personal
matter above referred to has no legiti
mate place In this discussion, and your
dragging It Into the controversy was
entirely uncalled for.' Your only rea
son for doing so was that you could
not back up your own proposition, and
you wished to prejudice the public
against us personally and to detract the
attention from the main point at issue.
Our proposition was made to the
Southern Shorthand and Business Uni
versity thrqugh you as Its president,
and not to any Individual. We waited
on you from June 26 to July 16. There
was no earthly reason why you could
not have taken the matter up with us
at any time.
In taking advantage of the unfortu
nate circumstances In question to ex
tricate yourself from an extremely em
barrassing position, you yourself have
grossly disregarded the very - proprieties
and amenities of life which you accuse
us of violating, and have shown your
self wanting In refinement and delicacy
of feeling which should have deterred
you from this course.
How long after your bombastic at
tack upon the Chartier system filled
with misrepresentations and with re
flections upon the sincerity and honesty
of those who teach It did you expect
us to wait? Did you expect us to keep
quiet until the public had forgotten
all about It, and then allow you to
come out and claim the victory? Our
honor as well as our Interest was In
volved. The public believes In a square
deal, and unless we are much mistaken,
your attempt to muddy the water by
Injecting lpto the controversy an Ir
relevant matter that should never have
been mentioned will receive the con
tempt It Justly merits.
Challenge Not Made in'Good Faith.
Now, Mr. Briscoe, we propose to
prove once for all that your challenge
was not made In good faith; that you
?» v « never Intended, and do not now
Intend, to enter any contest that will
give us an opportunity to prove'the
superiority of Chartier shorthand, and
that you have endeavored to mislead
the public.
You make us four separate and dls-
ttnet propositions, Involving a forfeit of
1250 In each case. You now say that
we dtd not accept your first propo
sition, and that, therefore, you will
not stand up to the other three propo
sitions. The ridiculousness of your
position needs no comment. You say
that we did not accept your first prop-
osltlon. Let us see. Your article li
which the challenge was made con
tained the following headline: "61,000
Challenge to Prove Assertions.” Our
acceptance of the proposition In ques
tion was worded as follows: "We ac
cept this proposition with the under
standing that our competitor confine
himself to our claims as originally
made by us.”
Now, if your challenge was to prove
our assertions, what posslhte objections
could you have to confining yourself to
our claims? In fact, how could your
proposition exist unless you do so?
our claims are unreasonable, as you
say, why. do you find It necessary to
exaggerate them In making your prop
osition?
We have never claimed that pupils of
the Chartier system could, after ten
days’ study, take 300 words of unfa
miliar matter In three minutes, as your
proposition required. You very well
know that there are comparatively few
stenographers In Atlanta who could do
this.
Competitor Met on His Own Grounds.
You say that to contest a thirty-day
pupil would be to violate every princi
ple of pedagogy. Of course, we do not
wish you to violate the principles of
tedagogy—that would be too bad. But
f you have conscientious scruples In
this matter, we can perhaps help you
out by making you the following propo.
sltlon:
Six Weeks in the Chartier Against
Three Months in ,ths Graham,
You propose to contest a three
months’ pupil. Select from your large
student body any tbree months’ pupil
to enter a public contest against a stu
dent of the Chartier system who never
studied shorthand prior to June 4, pro
vided the contest be held publicly not
later than July 26. This proposition
obviates all of your objections, and If
you decline to accept,' It will be evident
that you are afraid of the result.
Awaiting your reply, we are,
^Yours truly,
BAGWELL’S BUSINESS COLLEGE,
J. O. Bagwell, President.
198 Peachtree Street, Atlanta, Ga.
P. S.—You state that the object of
your challenge was to prove the absurd
claims for Chartier shorthand, and that
It has served Its purpose. It has also
served another purpose, of which you
may not be aware. A number of stu
dents from your school, after paying
for their tuition and spending several
months In a fruitless effort to master
Graham shorthand, have entered Bag
well's Business College and paid us for
scholarships. All express themselves as
delighted with the change, and they do
not hesitate to say that they have
learned more shorthand In one week
with us than they had previously
learned In one month.
You lay great stress upon the fact
that you declined to adopt Chartier
shorthand. It Is our opinion that you
thowed very bad Judgment, anu tljat
you have already begun to repent of
your folly.
It is a matter of common observa
tion that men of advanced age get Into
ruts, are Impervious to new Ideas and
cling tenaciously to old -methods.—J.
SESSION IS EXTENDED
TO PASS CONNOR BILL
The Senate Discussion PfQPLf WANT NEW
Covers Period of
Four Hours.
Discussion of the Connor bill oceu
pled the senate from 10 o’clock Wed
nesday morning until J o’clock In the
afternoon, the session being extended
for Its passage.
Though the opponents of the meas
ure made a gallant light they lost out
on the final test by a vote of 10 to 29.
Friends and advocates of the measure
who had been watching the session
with keen (pterest held a Jubilee when
the result was announced.
8tsed Opens Debate.
Senator steed opened the argument
with an able argument for the original
Connor bill, and opposed any of the
proposed amendments.
He thought that Georgia would make
a long stride forward when It provided
for the techlncal education of Its farm
ers, and the Connor bill appropriating
6100,000 for establishing an agricultural
college In Athens was a move In the
right direction.
Crum pleads for 8outh Georgia.
Senator Crum made a strong plea
for south Georgia to receive recogni
tion, and advocated branch agricultural
colleges, one located In south, the other
In north Georgia.
"Let It be a distinctive Institution for
the teaching of our farmer boys the
science of farming. Do not let hie
mind be distracted by study of the
stars and rocks”
He thought south Georgia should
have some consideration.
Not 8ectional Measure.
Senator Candler, In reply to Senator
Crum, said:
“Thank God, Lean approach this sub
ject aa a Georgian, and not aa a south,
north or anything else other than
Georgian.
He said he had stood by every edu
catlonal Institution In the state, re
gardless of Its location, and said '
favored the agricultural college
because It was to be located In Athene,
but because It would be an Institution
that would advance the .science
DEAL, JAYS HAL
With Perry of Hall Would
Fire Present Railroad
Commissioners.
farming In the state.
He mibmtlted as a proposition —
pure justice that the farmers should
have this college tor their sons.
"The grandest men In our state are
those raised on the farms and who
have Imbibed of the freedom of the
soil. I oppose any segregation of the
boys of our farmers and of other call
THE FURNITURE OF THE TALMADGE HOUSE
AT AUCTION
AT
37 and 39 Walton St.
Commencing Monday, July 23d, and continuing until all sold, consisting of so
Kverctt upright piano, parlor fumlturo. 9x12 squares Kmrrim nnd Moquette,
■"*' *- J '“(ng table to seat 20, which was owned by Pres. Jeff Dart*
ig beds, sideboard, oak, bird's-eye maple and wllnut bed-
Cher and aetteea, 2 hatracka, sereral wardrobes, lounges
. .nano. p
mahogany dining
the war. folding
antique
during the _
room suites, chairs, rocl
nnd couches, pictures, clock, table and
IwnI linens. comforts. blankets.
tnry, deak and s'large lot of trunks and ralloes left orer for board, on account
13 Whlriiai & the 7>ulldlng. LEO FltEHlI, Auctioneer, offlee and sales room
CONTENTS OF RESIDENCE AT AUCTION,
AT LANIER STATION, NEAR SOLDIERS’ HOME
FRIDAY, JULY 29th, AT 10 A.M.
This undoubtedly Is the finest lot of furniture sold for some time, consisting
of 5 bedroom salts, In osk. hsbogany, walnut, costing from $125.00 to $275.00 a
wilt: dining room snlt. consisting of extra fine dining table 12 feet long, with |
band rarred dragons In each corner, cost $75.00; handsome sldetmard and china
•’losct to match, coat $175; leather eent cbnlr; library ault. consisting of J large
band-carved arm chairs, 4 extra fine chain awl rocker with enilNMsed leather
•ents, hookense nnd library table, extra fine hstrnck, wnrdrobe with french
plate mirror doors, m — —“ "
jay drop leaf carved «
w grocers
. ... ocera or butchers, Urge lot of flower |*»ta with plants, such as hydrangeas,
ferns, geraniums and all kltnla of roses, statue of Henry Grady, bric-a-brac,
rhlna, glaaawtre and silverware, steel range.
By order of F. Lanier—LEO EBEHIf, Auctioneer, offlee and salesroom 123
Whitehall Bt. Take Soldiers' Home enr at Decatur street on the hour and the
half hoar.
L RACE
CLOSE-IN YEARS
Toung Hopes To Lead the
Ticket Before the Polls
Are Closed.
’‘I'MaI In Th, 6wr|ln.
Augusta, Qa., July 16.—The munlcl-
pal race today, It le thought, la the
eldest held here In yean. Neither
tandWate la confldent now.
Dunbar had the lead eoon in the
m *rnlng. hut he lost It about noon .
• * x p^ u *®«« |n “>« lttd by 4 22’££3^uo£! * “ p
COMMON SCHOOL BILL
REACHES THE HOUSE
The firming hour of Wednesday
morning's session In the house was
taken up In the consideration of the
bill by Senators Steed, Bennett and
Hogan to amend and codify the com
mon school laws of Georgia.
The bill Is a bulky one, being 81
pages of printed matter, and contmlna
5? sections.
Representative Holder, of Jackson,
took charge of the measure In the
house, and at the hour of adjournment
was explaining In detail the features
of each section to the members.
Representative Holder said It was
Che purpose of the bill to remove as
far apart as possible the white and ne
gro schools in the state. Another
changed proposed Is to have trustees
In all the school districts In the state.
Some counties have these trustees and
some have not. he explained.
He had explained only shout one-
third of Its provisions when the house
_ for consideration.
e paid a glowing tribute to Chan
cellor Walter B. Hill, and aal^ that he
knew of no man who could have been
so 111 spared to the state.
Senator Candler opposed the amend
ment submitted by Senators Bennett,
Strange, Williams, King, Birmans, A.
O. Blalock and Crum, to submit the
proposition to the people for ratifies-
tlon.
* King and Bennett Oppose,
Senator King spoke for the amend
ment to submit the matter to the- peo
ple.
Benator Bennett thought It should be
submitted to the people, and said If It
was then ratified, he would give It hit
cordial support.
He eald that the advocates who had
come up to Atlanta to work for Its
passage were lawyers, doctors, etc., but
no farmers. Benator Hand Inquired If
the speaker had seen any farmers lob
hying against It.
Ho asserted that the State University
had received 680,000 per annum since
1870 for the maintenance of an agricul
tural department, and wanted to know
what It had actually accomplished.
Senator Bunn advocated the bill, and
said It would be -to the upbuilding of
the state to establish this college.
"I am an alumnus of Mercer, but
have no Jealousy of the State Univer
sity.”
Jn the midst of Senator Bunn's sr-
gument a motion was made to extend
the session until the bill passed An
other motion was made to meet again
at 3 o'clock, which was lost.
It looked for a short time as It there
would be a fllllbuster to kill time until 1
o'clock, but after debate the motion
to extend the session prevailed.
Blalock Against Bill,
A call for the previous question by
Benator Walker was withdrawn to al
low Senator A. O. Blalock to speak
against the measure.
He did not believe any good would be
accomplished by centralising one great
agricultural college at Athens.
He said he was willing to leave It to
the people for ratification, and If they
eald yes, then he wished them God
speed.
"But I am unwilling to aay here
whether we shall vote 1100,000 of the
people's money for this purpose.”
Senator WllllBms, In oppoelng the
bill, eald that he had received many
letters and telegrams from prominent
for the measure, but not a single
one was a farmer.
At 1:80 o'clock Benator Walker
called for the previous question, and It
was sustained. Under the rules, Chair
man Hand, of the appropriation! com
mittee, was allowed thirty minutes and
yielded to Senator Miller.
Miller Favored It.
'He spoke In strong advocacy of the
measure. He said he eo warmly es
poused the bill that he not only wanted
to be recorded as voting aye, but also
In speaking a fbw words In behalf of It.
burden of the added taxes will
fall on the rich men of the state, who
can afford Jt, and It will be the eons
of the poor farmers who will benellt
by It.”
He raised a laugh when he said, "If
the boys ars properly educated In
farming they will make two blades of
w where one grows now.”
conclusion of Senator Miller’s
speech. Senator Hand said hs thought
It unnecessary to say a.\vthlng fur
ther.
On the amendment to submit the
proposition to the people. It was lost by
a vote of 28 to 16.
An amendment by Senator Rose to
appropriate 616,000 to be used an a
fund to be loaned to poor boys to at
tend the university was lost, 21 tg 16.
Substitute Killed.
Senator Crum’s substitute to appro
priate 8100,000 to the University of
Georgia to establish two colleges, one
north of Macon, not In Clarke county,
and the other In south Georgia, was
lost, 86 to II.
On the passage of the bill the vote
as as follows:
Yeas—Adams, ' Bloodworth, Bond,
Bunn, Candler, Cartthers, Carswell.
Fltxgerald. Fortner, Foster, Foy, Furr,
At the Tuesday afternoon session of
thf house Mr. Hall, of Bibb, elicited
considerable applause when he de
dared most emphatically that the peo
plo “wanted a new deal.”
He was referring specifically to the
present railroad commission, which the
amendment of Mr. Perry, of Hall, was
seeking to legislate out of offlee.
This amendment to abolish the pree*
ent officers was to the Kelly bill to
elect them by the people, aa their eev-
Si terms expired.
Judge Perry, or Hall, apeakli
hit amendment to the Kelly b. . __
elect the railroad commissioners by
the people—hie amendment abolishing
the present commission, and confining
the qualification of the new board to be
elected to three electors In the state-
made the startling statement that the
railroad commission te ten times more
Important to the state than the office
of governor, even admitting that It was
more Important than the legislature
Itself.
"Nothing,” 8aya Perry,
Representative Revtll, of Meriwether,
wanted to know what tha railroad com-
Ailsalon had done that he should wish
to legislate them out of offlee.
“Nothing," quickly retorted Mr. Per
O’, and the laugh was on the gentle
man from Meriwether.
Mr. Hall suggested that as the people
had put the commissioners In omre,
they had the right to put them out.
while Mq. Wise, of Fayette, was In
clined to think that the campaigns for
these offices would be so expensive
that only rich men would dll them.
I “Change Can’t Hurt."
Mr. Hall again came to the tore,
emphasising the previous assertion
that the people could make 1 or unmake
them with reason or without reason.
The people couldn't be hurt by the
change. The people can’t got relief
from the commission, he contended, and
had a right to abolish It. The consti
tution of 1877, cutting the terms of
the then existing Judgee, wae cited as
a precedent, the terms of the supreme
court Judges belhg cut from 12 to 6
years, and the superior court Judges
from 8 to 4.
"The people want a new deal,” he
said.
Mr. Alexander wanted this bill and
that of Judge Perry recommitted to
the general judiciary committee with
Instructions to report a consolidated
bill for both these measures, which
proposal Mr. Kelly strenuously resist
ed, urgently Insisting upon Immediate
action, and Mr. Knight, of Berrien,
urged this view also.
The matter went over as unfinished
business, nnd wIII provoke inoro discus
sion when taken up again.
APPROPRIATIONS MADE
FOR SCHOOLS OFSTATE
The appropriation committee of the
house has reported favorably on appro
prlatlons for an even half doxen state
Institutions, amounting In the aggre
gate to 8174,500.
These amounts are distributed as fol
lows:
Academy tar Blind, Macon. 886,000.
Girls’ Normal and Industrial Col
lege, Mllledgevllle, 827.600.
North Georgia Agricultural. College,
Dahlonego, 320,000.
Deaf and Dumb Academy, Cave
Springs, 620,000.
State Normal School, Athens, 666,-
000.
Georgia School of Technology, Atlan
ta, 627,600.
BILLSlMlNGlN
WITH REGULARITY
Notwithstanding that nearly one-half
of the session has expired, and that
any new measures would have but a
meagre show In passing In the rush
that comes at the heel of the session
either house, new matter Is almost
constantly being Introduced dally.
Eleven new bills were Introduced on
Wednesday morning, all of which were
local measures except two.
The new bills were:
By Mr. Longley, of Troup—To amend
an act to create a board of commis
sioners of roads and revenues for Troup
county.
By Mr. Rose, of Upson—To provide
loan fund scholarships for the Agri
cultural College at Athene.
By Meeare. Perry, Felder and Mat
thews—To provide, for the adoption of
the "Torrens Land Title System.”
By Mr. Lumpkin, of Walker—To
amend the charter of LaFayette.
By Mr. t'ureton, of Dade—To Incor
porate the town of Rising Fawn.
By Mr. Cook, of Cconee—To Incor
porate the town of Eastvllle.
By Messrs. Alexander and Mayson,
of DeKalb—To amend the charter of
the town of Edgewood.
By Mr. Bmlth, of Calhoun—To In
corporate the city of Morgan.
By Mr. Way, of Pulaakl—To amend
act to regulate the sale of whleky In
Lee county, so aa to-exclude the town
of Smltbvllle.
By Mr. Smith, of Calhoun—To es
tablish the county court of Calhoun
county.
By Mr. Davis, of Burke—To Incor
porate the city of Mlllen, In Jenkins
county.
TRAVELED MANY MILES TO
HAVE MAD STONE APPLIED
Special to The Oeorgtsn.
Charlotte, K. C, July 18.—While the
_____ existence of the .mad stone and Its re-
Hamby, Hand,” Hogan, - McAllister,* Me-! ported efficiency ars doubted by many,
Henry. Miller, Odum, Parker, Peyton,
Phillips, Reid. Rose, Steed, Walker,
Westbrook, Wheatley. Wilcox—29.
Nays—A Isobrook, Bennet, A. O. Bla
lock, A. C. Blalock. Crum, King, Luma-
den, Mills. Birmans, Williams—10.
Charlotte Is still In the ranks of au-
psralttlonslf such It may be called, and
yesterday a stone owned by a promt-
negro, Jesse Turner, of
Batesburg, S. C, who made the long
Absent—Copelan, Gray bill, strange, pilgrimage all the way to Charlotte to
Ware—4. bare the stone applied. *
SKIRT
SALE
Two Hundred Fashionable
Plaid Skirts—Brand New
Models—Of (Cotton) Pan
ama and Checked Suit
ings .......
ON SALE TOMORROW.
ABOUT HALF REGU-
LAR PRICE a a . . •
$2.95 For Skirts
For Skirts
LOT 1.
CHOICE
LOT 2.
CHOICE
$3.95
Worth to $4.00
Worth to $5.00 i
M.
Early
Buyers
Will
Get
Some
Great
Garment
Values.
THIRD FLOOR, 8:30 A.
This sale consists of Checked
and Plaid Skirts in * brand new
fashionable models. Materials are
Suitings and (Cotton) Panamas.
Some are 50 per cent Wool, some
are all Cotton. They are all new
models; circular and plaited effects
and those wanting a stylish, inex
pensive skirt will do well to attend
this sale. The entire purchase of
two hundred skirts will be closed
out at two prices; for choice
COME
PROMPTLY
LOT Number I
$2.95.
10T Number 2
j. M. high co.
THA WHAD A MANIA
FOR THRASHING GIRLS
tty Private Leased Wire. (
New York, July 18.—Justice May-
burg, In tha auprame court, adjourned
until tomorrow the hearing of the argu
ment aa to why District Attorney Je
rome and the grand Jury should not. be
restrained from any further proceed
ings In the Thaw case.
MOTHER WANTS THAW
TRIED FOR INSANITY.
Hr I’rlrste leased Wire.
New York. July It.—Mrs. William
Thaw, mother of Harry Kendall Thaw,
It was declared authoritatively today,
has decided to aak for the appoint
ment of a lunacy commission for tha
purpose of having her eon declared
Insane, so that he may escape trial for
the murder of Stanford White.
This agreement was reached after a
consultation with Lewis A. Delafleld,
her
Willi
- personal counsel, and former Judge
lllam K. Olcott. of Black, Olcott.
ft Bonynge, as the sole hope
of saving Harry Thaw from punish
ment.
Wife and Mother Row.
It was learned also today that
Thaw’s mother and Evelyn Neeblt
Thaw have had a serious rupture, and
that the mother has severed relations
with her daughter-in-law.
“Harry Thaw will never be placed on
trial for the murder of Stenford White.
There la no doubt that be will be de-
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lew York, July II.—Mrs. Wil
liam Thaw, after definitely re
taining the firm of Black. Ol.
cott, Gruber ft Bonynge, saw
her son In the Tombs today and
told him. In no uncertain
words, that he must relinquish
full conduct of his case to her,
and also dismiss Immediately
the attorneys he had hired on
hie own responsibility.
red by
>y
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
dared Insane and eent to the asylum
for tha criminal Insane at Mattewen.”
This declaration was made today by
one of the persons who was presen 1
at tha consultation between Thaw's
mother and Judge Olcott’s law firm.
Will Resume Direction.
There were present at the conference
Mr*. William Thaw, mother of Harry
Thaw: Lewis A. Delafleld, her person
al counsel; William M. X. olcott, Jo-
slab Thaw and George L. Uarnegle. eon
and son-ln-lsw of lira. William Thaw.
Mrs. Evelyn Neeblt Thaw was there,
but took no part In th# conference.
Mrs. William Thaw' met Judge Ol
cott for the first time and Insisted
upon his reasununlng charge hr Harry
Thaw’s casa Mr. Olcott promised to Thaw’s wife.
take the matter under advlaeraant, b
said he could give no final answer on
he had conferred with the olh-t men
bars of his firm. The prababllitl
are that the firm will again t«u. 1
the direction of the defense.
Thaw Thrashed Girls.
It was learned today that the *u
brought by Evelyn Nesblt. who 1- no
Mrs Thaw, against Harry K. Tha
before their marriage, was not r-
breach of promlee', but for
for a beating admlnlst
with a rawhide whip.”
The discovery that Thaw t
been charged with heating,won
a whip was In connection with
brought by I-awyer Joseph A.’
behalf of Ethel Thomas, as
published.
The same course of Information
which le authority for the atarem. nt
that the paper held by Lawyer Abe
Hummel In a suit la the authority for
the statement that at least four w „
have been thus treated by Than-. It is
said that the Neeblt suit eats forth nl-
most the same charges as those set
forth In the ault brought by mi.«
Thomaa.
Mrs. Thinr. accompanied by her
daughter, Mrs. Carnegie, arrived at the
Tombs In an electric cab from 'ha
Hotel Lorraine a few mlrfutee b. r t» u
I’clock. Both women were seat'he,1.
Then they weift up stairs to Hairy
Thaw’s cell.
A few moments befors the nrriaal of
Thaw’s mother his wife came to the
Tombs alone, f^h* spent hut .1 f■-w
mlnutrs with him. when she drove to
the offices of Clifford K. Hariri'!**-. 1 he
lawyer Thaw retained when he dla-
mlssed Judge Olcott. It was not denied
today that a coldness has spruiut up
between the elder Mrs. Thaw and Harry