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m. K UV i ijv,. -iio’ Monary Idaptisis i u... ..one; but the interrogative was intended to know ray objections to joining them, and after telling him some of ray objections for not joining that Fraternity, this Missionary or Missionist thought my objections trifling, or of but little weight. Missionaries generally believe and advocate that man’s will is the pivot upon which his soul’s eternal salvation depends, that is, man is left at option to will or not to will the salvation of his soul. This is Arminianism, is it not? Armin ianisin is to ray understanding, the belief of the unregenerate world, hence, there is no need or ne cessity of the new or second birth, and if so, what Christ said to Niecodemus, “ that ye must be born again,” has no meaning. This belief (Arminian ism) is as far from supporting my experience of grace, (if any I have,) as the east is from the west. And hence, a serious difference occurs or is made manifest, and how can we walk together except we be agreed 3 This Mr. Missionist remarked that there was not as much difference between the two sects of Baptists as people supposed. A few days after we had this little talk my companion was over at his house, and he told her that he would not consent for his children to go to hear one of the old order of Baptists preach, that there would soon be none of them. Why Mr. Missionist, atone time you say, there is but little or do difference be tween the two sects, and yet can’t even consent for your children to go to hear one of the two sects. My companion being a Missionary Baptist it suit ed your taste to eome out iu full against this sect every where spoken agaiust; but when with me better to keep back part of the price. Enticing words and excellency of speech can’t or won’t catch the “Tried,” (those who have been made to trust in Christ for light and life, the only safe refuge.)— Here is the only difference between you and me. What you can’t consent for your children to go to hear preached, my poor soul loveth and feasteth, yea, liveth upon, which is Christ and him crucified as the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and when one has been taught experimentally that Christ is the Way, the Truth, aod the Life, he or she is a saint of God, and no power on earth can make them less; neither is Arminianism food to their souls, but is to them lies in hypocrisy, or lies of hypocrites. — This is plain language, but Christ cannot preach through all the different preachers of all denomina tions without constituting himself the author of con fusion, for says the Apostle, we preach not our selves but Christ, and we your (the churches ) ser vants for Christ’s sake. I am no preacher, but there are more preachers of the old older of Baptists than the world is aware of, yea, more than you Mission ists would believe, for they need not jour mission ary machines to learn them to preach, for if they have the axe, the hoe, the mattock, the plow-han dles, or with spade in hand, and half leg deep in mud in the ditch - they ean preach or talk, and tell how Christ is made unto them Wisdom, Righteous ness, Sanctification and Redemption, thereby glo rying in the Lord and their joy unspeakable. ’ b ALEXANDER G. McKENNEY. verse o . And he saith unto u.~, hither not having on a wedding-gan*.^.. he was speechless. A. G. M. ——< o > i Mount Morris, N. Y., June 23, 18A0. Brethren Editors —It bas pleased the Lord to place me among Arminians, where I can hear noth ing but choose life or death, and what is more con trary to truth, they contend that there is three Gods in the Trinity, the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. They say their bible plainly shows it.— Well, all I can say to them is, their bible does not agree with my experience nor with my bible. My experience shows me that I was born in sin, and that it was my great delight to serve in sin with all my might. I well remember when God open ed my eyes to see myself I saw then that of all the earth I was the most wicked creature in it; my heart was 60 opposed to God that if it was in the power of the flesh, the flesh would dethrone the Almighty ; but how soon I was brought in sub jection to God’s will when in the hour of great des pair, when all hope was gone, when God’s veugeance was so just in my condemnation, and I crying God be merciful to me a poor helpless, hell deserving sinner; when an Old Methodist preacher came to me and asked me how I felt, and I told him ; he asked me if I did not believe Christ died for me, I told him no, if I could believe that this mountain of agony, I thought, would be removed; be then said do you believe Christ died to save sinners 3 I an swered 1 thought I did. That is enough then he said, and immediately rising on his feet exclaimed to his congregation that bro. Thorp had passed from death unto life, and now was rejoicing in the Lord Jesus Christ. 0, how miserable that word made me feel, when I was yet under condemnation, they made me sink deeper than ever. Then every thought of my heart arose in enmity, I could hard ly keep from swearing, and in fact before I was aware an oath would break forth, which again made me miserable beyond describing with the pen. But at last l raised my whip to strike my horse, for I was driving a stage in New York City, the lash of my whip returned with great force and struek me in my left eye, and then instead of an oath, these words came to me, It is better to enter into life with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into outer darkness. Ob, the joy and peace then flowed into my heart that it appeared that everybody was praising God. I immediately want ed to see someone who loved God to tell them what God had done for my poor soul; previous to this time of deliverance I was a Methodist in prin ciple, but after my deliverance I wanted to follow my Savior’s direction and example, and in seeking them I found Christ was a baptist and all his Apos tles, and all the Apostolic Church were baptists, and so I could not help being a baptist, although des pised by all other denominations. Dear brethren, I find that it requires the same power to keep me from serving the flesh that it docs to raise the dead sinner to give him hope in Christ, own w 1.., dom to this little flOc*., ~ for Christ has chosen them out of the wonu, - they are hated by the world even as their bead was bated, and this little flock are they who love the doctrine of free grace and contend for the faith once delivered to the saints : and for this very rea son they are despised by those who call themselves disciples of Jesus, while they spoken of in di vine revelation as heaping to themselves teachers, having itching ears, preaching them to heaven on flowery beds of ease, while God’s word in opposi tion to them said his people are a tried people, and are drawn in the fiery furnace, and view themselves the most unworthy of all beings, seeing their entire dependence wholly on Christ for salvation. They have no where else to go but unto Christ, for they know by experience that he alone has the words of eternal life, and came to seek and to save that which was lost. C, brethren, what a glorious thing it is that we are not our own keepers, but are kept by the power of God through faith unto ls 1 were to believe my hope of salvation depended on my good works, I would be sure to be lost, for I never as yet have seen one good thing that I ever have done that would please God. I believe the bible teaebes me that the sinner is dead in sin and transgression, and that there is no life-in him. Now if this be true, and it is, for we have the word of the Son of God, who cannot lie, for i‘, i. is just as absurd to try to teach our children literally be fore they are born as it is to teach the sinner the way of righteousness ; for none but God can teach them that, and he teaches them first that he is God and besides him there is no other, and that they have sinned against him. God has bid these things from the wise and prudent, and has revealed them unto babes. Brethren, bear with me, for this is the only way I am privileged to open my mind freely upon this great plan ot salvation, for I have no ope here who can bear the truths of the gospel as I view them, and I find in the columns of the Signs and Messenger whose God is the Lord of hosts, whom they love in the truth, and who they try to serve while strengthened by grace to love and com fort one another. Dear brethren, though not acquainted with both of you in the flesh, I leel to love you for the truth’s sake. It pleased God last summer to let me hear the gospel preached by bro. Purington at the con ference at Dansville, Western New York. All the preaching 1 have is what I get through the Signs and Messenger , and my prayer to God is that he will fill the hearts of his dear children with grace and love, so that they may have the sword in their right hand to face their enemy, trusting in God who is able to keep them from falling. Brethren do with this scribble as you think best. Your Brother in Christ, WM. J. THORI\