The Royal Georgia gazette. (Savannah, Ga.) 1779-1782, June 22, 1780, Image 1
TH E Agl ROY A E Georgia Gazette Parliamentary Debates, HOUSE of COMMONS, March 13. H fe went ir.to it Conuuit ce m ■■ ‘d ot Mr. Burke’s bill, and Mr. ’ \ Eiwes toi-k the The li it ,A clause difcufisi vmf that which ft 1 W. abfi!ilh?s the K-s d,of Trade. M”. Eden ob'erveV, iLat fame 4 corfuleration (hculi behui far v t/*ei W a ,jarc * l-ng and cutiftituikn ally elhbfiffied, a:,d thatiiuiight not t'’ be abolifhad without caolV. If the honour able Member who had framed the b!l v. iflied to have evidence rel t'.ive t • its utility ha could fumith him with it; he had evidence on record, cot lifting of 3300 volumes, containing the t:a Tift ors of the Bond, and likewise the oral evidence cf Mr. Pa*., nail, who had been 30 years Secretary to it. Mr. Bu See treated the idea of the 23c© volumes in Ift very laughable and ludicrous a manner as cf f-rded the Houf’e no fin; II amufemeot. Mr. Pownsll f-joks at greet length and with much ht’m ur and vivacity cn the question, and lhewed that the Board of Trade was totally inadequate at the prefect time to the fu meses for which the Hon ourable Gentleman had said it was adapted. After grifat attention on the fubjfft, he was convinced that judice, policy, propriety, el! requited that that e liabb’fhmert thould be ab liflied. SirEdwaid Dcering advcited to the conduft of a Honour..ble Gentleman refpr *i g his prin ciple fuggeifed on Wednesday la ft, that the II use had no controu! ov-.r the King’s Civil Lilt. Mr. Rigby obfci vrd, that, when hr fiitl the Par liament had iiocontroul over theKr g’s Civil Lift, he never meant to fay that tiiey had o over-ruling r. wfrir. • .a/s -.kai/* ■•* - ; r -y-w-• riv rdt iitg.if to ds Late unuT- : •’*.* . - . - firti proved. * L If the Judges salaries, for instance, were unpaid, or rtfufed, thatwou and bean abuse, and Parliun'nt could have a right to enquire ir,jo it. With lefpeft to the People of England, hr than h their petitions tru’y rtfpeft ible, and that the Miriifter could nrt decently remain in office, if the voice of the people was agiit-ft him. Mr. Fox declared, that he would rot rotracl from the declaration he had made on a former day, and he wished inlfantly to meet him on the grout and, and decideaipon it. He had declared, th it if fu h a doftrine was cftabulh 3 ;!, thev must go to aoothcr place, and refeue themselves from (Itvsry by other arguments than * o;ds. He called upon Sir Fletcher Norton, as the hightft legal authority in the kingdom, to tell his m-iiion, whether there was not, in the conffitution of Padia mmt, an inherent right in the Reprcfentatives of the people to contrcul the cr.;;cife cf ary power in the Crown that tended to fttpport a government by in . fluence and corruption against the voice of the people, agair ft the redress of every national grievance, and n fubve’fion of the freedom ar.d independence cf Parliament. The S peaker proceeded to give his opinion on this great cot ftitutior>al question, ftate.l in th : s critical fituatiou of pu hek aftfti s. He fi.-ft allude.’ t > Line private tranfrfli’ ns betwixt himfeif and the Mmif ter, which had , teved the noble L rd to he no friend to him; ard that, rei h r in his pubiick nr private capacity, c-uid he ever be a frier and to Lord North either as a MiTfter or a man. H stated with the uitrmft la'i'ude h* rieht of the lubjeft to a ‘d ihe duty of Psrli merit to give the u ;n.;ft atten tion to the drfucs cf iheir cmftituenfs; Suit that i t the prefect tnftanc*, the known integrity, app~ rr.-t ability, and tx=e live property, rendered tlie prefmt p-titfos ;l g ref; cftable sif they ;iro . ceeded f twi the gn era! voice cf the peo le of Eng. land. Aft ctattons and committees h* thought be yond the line cf cor.ftjtutional application, and r ig!;t rtm to ex; ITcs that were dangcrua to pub lu k peace, and the fiecu:ity of the (We itfe'f; but the petitions drferved abetter trea inert than they ladl u and ; they ought immediately-to have bten referred to a Ccm.tdttre, and the people of E gland cuglit t have beet, fetisfi and hew far the piayera of the oetiiirris c~ u!d or could not be e mpire.i with. With rt gatd to the question ©f tight whether Par- Lament ! r;d 3 right, he whs ft re to declare, that as Parliament had grated tUe Civil Lft for life, and given it in trust, as I ng as the conditions of the cruft were cbArved Pa.liament night not, a .d therefore he would fay could mo: interfere in the ex penditure cf that revenue which they had given in tiuft. The conditions cl that t uft were but two... to maintain his hcumold in dignity,-- and to /im port the civ-i gorct; ment of the country. Had it been proved, or even suggested, that the civil go- SAVANNAH: THURSDAY, JU! r E 22, 1780. vrrnmonthaJ been ft jpped, or the King’s buftitrld not properly maintained ? We have no riglt, .h n, at thi r tim ,to irtt:fere with the controu of tae K ng’s haulhold, much Id's to itn )..fe condt ir.> *n the management •• f ;bia own domeftick rff .is, jn a manner that the meanest lubjeft cauld not ber‘. stit the qu;ttion h.fore us uiv dved, not only a u ft n •sand nitftick am: g::nent, but a qutition <■ j 5 and such matters were in ewry it tt iKce lia .It e i fpcft-.C'K, a-d A'it-e the ; m men fare o : -j. •( control'.! cf Pa. itameut. ‘l'he If card or i . V'uj a department of state, ne t of the hcufitold; ft .m* become cot or ly uLlefs in its ftinfti r.s, but uif chievous in iu eff clr; it anfwercd new no ptuqafe whatever but t< bring seven or sight pensioned um bers to v->te in every qurffion th.it came btfor fir • liamcnt. He was theief .e clearly, coi.fcienußtiJy, and fi.miy of r.pinion, that the Board of I'tade cujht to be al o'illie.di In regard to the it Htierc® of th® Cmwti, h; was as much ado tilled th t any man Ih.uid have .it. ef fror.te y t ? < eny its ire e. f-, as that any mu:, tvho heted to re in a repute tt- n cf puhl ck or ~ vate iitegri-v, c- uid rif- i Import of it. lufluen h&d grown up n the we.tknefs cf < u country 5 antiper brps cur cor.lt tution had more so fear from it yier ricious p.ogr fs (ban the foil of our country ltd to fe tr from he urn It r's cf cur united ym.mirs. H* hi:nk!f edit It s dtlr and principal duty u op pose the influence of corruption ; as !o-p as it was in the .hair he would aid oily wiftr f r the .i.-reale cf the ir.fluenc* of the Ct'owo ; &. J if h tlie chair, hi# inert zealous < ffarts sh uldf r evo I em pfoyed ‘o eltablilhing and cementing :he it:d|;eod enc? cf Parliament. Lord North said, tint the II rctuabic Gs Itma.i Fad declared he hid nut treat #d him as afrit. , :ird • hat he.ccultl ntjt in tern n look u on him v,iu:h. lie dtd not know, hr flcl. : , y- -a> j tfie |j t ft .'y-. - vi. tiil- 4 ,r y caule for cum .t.i'U'j •. Tioi oroke any 1 rrtaife with him. They bad, i deed, had f me wovds leading to a cea ’ciatloo, bu: th.: II incurable Gentleman and ire c j\jAi not a g ec; that was all. . The 8 >ealtet in reply t-v';>rd all ci t-.juu’a"ces of the negocktion. He Lid, was appointed to the Chief Julticcfliip in Eyre ire had rtipniated that he ftrni s d uot go out of the line of his prnfefli on. A meffige was fsnt to him by a Right Hvo-. curable Gentleman then in his eye, ir>ti*eattag him to accept of the chair of that H uife. fie ac cepted of it, under the express condi ion thtii lie ftr;u!d succeed to the fit ft high office in tire law that sh Mild become vacant. Af-er this he bad heard from au'hority which he could not difb iieve, that the Chief Juft.ce of the Common Fieri was to retire u on a per,lron, and that a Gentleman whole prc.fertianal knowledge, short standing, want of experience, atul (ize v.f Hin lities, were not equrl to tliofe either of the poefon who was to 1 elite, or to many who had a better title, to succeed. This intimation, he laid, not a little furprized him. He went to the Murifter and took a friend with him, to infill that they (hon'd come to an im plicit explanation. The r.ob.e Lord avowed the f ft, and ftiuffled and cut through a multiplicity of arts to com pro mile it. Lord Njrth find that lie had not breke th; con trast. It was made by his predecelTor in office, arid he did not th:’ k hin.ftH bound to observe it. At the fame time the Committee would not difeovet any thing criminal in all this trarfadlien. It wss no more than one Judge going out of office and another G<* tb.nian succeeding. Tite Speaker Ltd it was famething more, ard the Committee would call it an abominable traulaftion., when tliry weie tv,ld thatthe change was to be made for money. Lord North said, if it was so, he was to touch rone <fit; it was, lie fu; posed, to go tt the guitß - man who whs to teti e. The Attorney General fa'd, it was to him the Horouraole Gen’l .man had alluded, as the peifon Lippi led te have the pioroifeof the Chief Jufticelhip of t'-e C mm on PUas; h; couio, however, fayw'itii truth, that he had rtver tnacle any contract with the noble Lore, nor expefted from hi.u any favourwhat ever. He had indeed reject If me prepofals which lie did not think adequate to h'.s lervicfs aud his ia bour, a.,.! he would h.: happy to receive, wnhg.a titude, the fav .ur of his S^veretgr. fie admitted the inf. ri rity of his talents, and acknowledged he was unable to rank with that Ge. Leman. He adverted to the question and . poled it, becauie a Council of Trade wculdjre in ccm i etent, precarious, and uncertain ; and he ob j fted to inter feiir.g with the King’s revenue at all, b'eauU it would render the King de, endent on ids M ciftetr, and destroy the monarchy of ihe empire. Mr. Dunning replied, and cicfed tae debate. The Committee divided upon the clause at tw* o’clock. A er- 207. Ne: 199. The fuppo t.rs 1 the bill th.nt ;rc have carried the claui'e for aboi lhtag the Baard of T adc. G E O R G I A. By his Excellency Sir JAMES W R I G H TANARUS, Baronet, Captain- General and Governor in Chief in a*ui over his Majeflj’s Province of Ge Chancellor, Vicc-Adaiiral, and Ordinary of the fame, A PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS I have received in: formations that a set of infa mous thieves and plunderers have for fome time pall, and Hill are going about this province, robbing, plundering, and sometimes murdering, the loyal and peaceable inhabitants, fe vtral of whom call themfclves, and ac tually ar^, M‘Girt*s men or people, and pretend to have ?uth riry for going a bout armed in companies or numbers mo-ether: AND WHEREAS the fame ftatu oceu, at tnc wcmv.is n<>< l. id Savannah, preiented by the Grand fury as a grievance: AND WHEuEAS many other icile and diloi'derly pe<)ts)j, steal, drive, and carry away, the cattle and horles belonging to the inhabitants aforefaid, and in the above informati ons are mentioned Jahn Bonnel, Wil liam Powell, Honor Powell, Henry Wiibarns, Eliphas Stanley, Wim berley, - Hart, Arthur Rials, James Brown, V incent Carter, and James Johnson, who was lately found guilty of the murder of John Philip Ritter, and broke gaol: WHEREFORE, in order to prevent such villainous depre dations ;n future, and to bring to con dign punishment the afarefaid persons, and such others as may have been con cerned in any murders or robberies, I have thought fit, by a id with the ad vice and content of his Majefly’s Hon ourable Council, to lfTue this my pro clamation, off-ring, and I do hereby promise, his Mujelty’s pardon, to any one of the offenders who may inform and give evidence againfi. the rest, (un less such informant'hath been guilty of murder, in which tale he can only be reprieved;) also a reward of fifty pounds sterling t®fuch offender, or any ether person or persons, who may ap prehend and deliver to the keeper of the common gaul in Savannah, and prosecute to conviction any of the of fenders in the premites; the fame to be paid on the convi&ion of the party or parties. AND WHEREAS the bring ing such offenders to justice will con tribute greatly to the peace, quiet, and advantage, of all his Majesty’s good and loyal fubjt<fi.s, they are therefore hereby required to be aiding and a{Tift>, ing in the apprehending and giving c- [N®. 69.]