Cherokee phoenix. (New Echota [Ga.]) 1828-1829, May 14, 1828, Image 3

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United States Commissioners with any de gree of disrespect. We are sure it is far from the wish of our Citizens to be disre spectful. The Cherokee Constitution has produc ed a very mistaking idea in the minds of many persons, especially such as endeavor to take every advantage of the Indians.— To say that the Cheroke.es have declared themselves independent of the United States, and violated, in their constitution, their connection with the General Govern ment, would be doir g them very great in justice; for the thought of such indepen dence has never entered into their minds, as we already have had occasion to declare: and we hope a word to the wise and can did will be sufficient. This constitution was adopted for the good of the Cherokee People, as their condition made it evident .that they could not improve otherwise, in. legislation. It did not originate in any de sire of such independence as our treaties with the United States would not warrant. "We do not claim rights which do not be long to us, much less are we so blinded as to suppose, that we can within ourselves change our relation with the General Go vernments Rights, however, we have, se cured to us by treaties, and will the peo ple of this enlightened land, emphatically called the land of freedom, deprive us of these few rights? The Editor ofthe Statesman & Patriot, fa Georgia paper,) has the following arti cle—“ Though much has been said about the Cherokee civilization, we are of opin- ! ion that many strides must he taken before those Indians may with truth be termed a ^civilized people. The Phoenix of the 2d instant furnishes matter of ill omen as to 'the success of the new constitution. A sys tem of thievery, by which property is run into the white settlements, is said to exist even around New Echota; and frequent murders are committed without the perpe trators heingj apprehended or brought to ’trial.” This Editor, perhaps, is not aware that the instigators, leaders and principals, of this system of thievery are whitemcn, citi zens of Georgia. He will inform us how many strides, these must take “before they ban, with truth be termed a civilized peo ple.” We are told, (and we have no reason to dispute it) that our white neighbors, who 'have taken the place of our more honest 'nei^bors Creeks,are continually trespassing tori the rights of our citizens, by stealing "tovery species of property, and they do it Nvith impunity. Some of these men it is ’said, are ciVil officers of the State of Geor gia, the very same persons to whom the proclamation ofhi9 Excellency .Gov. For- "sythe is directed. The same Editor, speaking upon what ‘we had formerly said, respecting the right '6f the Cherokees to the lands now in their possession* 0 n the ground of occupancy, ob serves, “ Strolling over a country is some what different from a permanent occupan cy.” Query. What kind of occupancy $iave those, who have never even strolled ‘over a country? INDIAN EMIGRATION. Col. Thomas L. McKenney, late special Agent to the Southern Indians, in. a letter to’ the Secretary of war, dated Choctaw Country, Oct. 1 Oth, 1828, makes an esti mate of the probable expense of removing •the Chickasaw Indians. The utmost ex ient of cost is estimated at 494,750 dollars, including the cost of 4 visit to examine the country* the cost pf their houses, mills, work shops, orchards, fences, and their Stock of all kinds, all which are to be re placed by the United States. According to the foundation which Col, McKenney has laid down, we make the following esti mate of the probable cost of the removal of the Cherokees, (if that were to be the case.) - . The population of the Cherokee Nation, we will put down at 18,000, (which is below the actual number.) VVe will suppose (following Col. McKenney's suppositions) the families to average five souls, which ’will give 2,600 houses. These houses, we do not suppose can be built for less than an ’average cost of 200 dollars* which incur opinion is quite moderate, Most of these houses it is true, are poor* and may be built for a small amount, yet there are many which will require the double and trible of 'what we put down as an average cost.— Few of the best horses cannot be built for less sums than two, three, and four thous and dollars, including barns, eribs, 8tc.-— This part ofthe expense will then be $520,- 000. The number of mills, grist, arid saw, is fifty, which may be replaced for the sum of $25,000, supposing each mill to cost $500. Their shojre are sixty two in number, and these estimated at $50 each will cost $ G00, Their orchards perhaps rtiay be replaced for $3,000. ; 'The fences of the Chickaeaws are esti mated by Col McKenney at $50,000. $200,- 000 will then be but a moderate estimate for this item of the expense attending the removal of the Cherokees. There are in this Nation 7,083 horses* these at $40 per head, will cost $307,320. 22,531 black cattle at $10 per head will cost $225,310. 46,700 hogs owned by th" Cherokees, at $3 per head, will cost $140,100. The probab.e cost of a visit to examine the country, may be the same as estimated by Col. McKenney, $10,000, and of their removal to it, $350,000, This is bv no means an extravagant estimate, for Col, McKenney puts down the cost of the re moval of the Chickasaws, who are but four thousand in number, at $100,000. The total amount of cost, then, for the foregoing items, will be $1,783,730. And supposing we add a fourth for the expense of tlie Government, the Schools, the mili tary, and other items not enumerated, the whole amount of expense in removing the Cherokees beyond the limits of any State or Territory will be $2,229,062. If this project is intended, as we are told by its advocates, for the good and civiliza tion of the Cherokees and other Indians, cannot this sum be put to a better use?— Supposing with this money, the United States begin to establish Schools in every part of this Nation ? With this money let their be a college founded, where every advantage of instruction may be enjoyed. Let books, tracts, &.c, be published in Cherokee and English, and distributed throughout the Nation and every, possible effort he made to civilize us, let us at the same time he protected in our rights. What would he the consequence? If we fail to improve under such efforts, we will then agree to remove. TRIAL OF HOLGATE AND SUTTON. The interesting trial of Holgate and Sutton, having closed on Friday evening, by the conviction of both the criminals, and by the entire and con clusive demonstration ofthe innocence of Mr. Redmond, we give the follow ing brief history of the transaction, as stated by Stevens, one of the accom plices. On Thursday he underwent an examination of about two hours, be fore the Grand Inquest, and on Friday, in the Sessions, on the trial of the a- bove criminals. His testimony was the same on both occasions, and so perfectly borne out by facts wit!) which he could not have been acquaint ed, that it is entitled to entire confi- dcnce. Stevens is an Englishman, probably born in London, about thirty- six years of age, about 5 feet 7 inches high, well made, has the appearance of a gentleman, and is intelligent, and easy in his manners. He states that the parties engaged in these extensive forgeries, were himself, Reed, (who has since oeen convicted of another forgery in iios- ton,) Holgate, a mechanic, and Sut ton, who kept a porter House in Roo sevelt street. On the night of the 28th September, they all made an at tempt to enter Ho.vlands store but not succeeding, and fearful they uad injured one of the wards in the ionic, Sutton went doivn the following morn ing to see if the clerk found the lock so injured as to be replaced by a new one. The store being open ed without suspicion, the following night they All disguised themselves at Sutton's House, and with crow bars, dark lanterns, &o. entered the store; their object was principally to secure Bills of Exchange. Among the pa pers which they obtained in the count ing room, was a bundle of cancelled checks, and in the middle one was found defaced—“the writing was taken out of the body, by a chemical pro cess, and it Was afterwards filled in by Reed, with 7760 dollars* leaving the signature to this check genuine. On the morning that Sutton went down to see the clerk open howlands’ store, he saw floating in the dock, among some rubbish, a parcel of Osborn,s checks; from them they forged a check on the American Bank for $4950,75* A check of Mr. Abraham Le Foy’s, on the North River Bank, was forged for 700 dollars. A check of Spear, Cavleton and Co. on the Mechanics’ Bank fo* dollars, and and a check of VV H. Aspinwall, on the Merchant’s Bank, for—-—dollars. The 15th October was the day appoint ed for presenting all these checks Holgate was selected to present the following checks, viz:—Howland's on the Union Bank, for which he re ceived a 5000 dollar note, two ones a five hundred, aud the. balance iq smaller notes. The Asplnwall ctack was presented by Holg, te, to the Merchants' Bank, in the presence of Stevens, but was not paid. The check of Le Foy’s was presented by Hol gate, and the money received. The check of Osborn's was presented by Sutton, at the America Bank, and the money received. It was made Ste vens’s duty to take the Bank ftotes, and get the same changed, whfch he did at the United States, the Chemi cal, and Franklin Banks. Stevens was present at the Franklip Bank when Mr. Ebbets came up to ask the Teller of that bank to stop any person who should appear with any of the Notes, but he left the Bank without being suspected. After the money was obtained, and the Notes bxchang- ed for others by Stevens, the spoil was divided equally into four parts, at Sutton's house. The forgery of Phyfe's check was some time previous tp the others, and although by the same persons, was not connected with the present forgery. Holgate resembles Redmond in a very striking manner, and it is not to be wondereu at that he should have been taken for him by the clerks in the different banks. The testimony of Stevens, was so borne out by other testimony and other facts^ that there was not a doubt of the truth of his whole statement. The jury were out but a short time, and brought in a ver dict of guilty against Holgate and Sutton. Stevens had previously been convicted, but is not sentenced. On Saturday, the prisoners were called up to receive their sentence. From the great interest of the trials, the Court Room svas crowded to ex cess. The Recorder, in his address, gave a history of all previous trials, and stated the enormity of the crimes which had been committed. He clos ed in a very affecting manner, and pronounced the judgment of the Court, which was, that the prisoners be con fined in the State Pris n, to work at hard labour, DURING TIILlR NA TURAL LIVES. Holgate was greatly overcome, and wept bitterly; Sutton was less affected. The most interesting part of the plot, however, was developed at the Bridewell. Previous to the pi isoners being removed to the State Prison, Holgate made a f ill and complete confession that he was GUILTY, and was the person who presented the ihecks at the various Banks, as stated in the testimony of Stevens that all the Clerks ofthe Banks were mistak en in their testimony as to Redmond, who was a perfectly innocent man. N. Y. Me, nate woman, with medical aid, survi ved a number of days, and left hei miserable husband and three children to mourn their loss. Mr. Love was so terribly affected by the first shock as never to retain his perfect senses, & on the day of her death left his house in a state of derangement; and though searched for oil the day of the funeral, in every direction, by an hundred men, has not yet been foiind.— Win chester I Jerald. Since our last, London and Liver pool papers have been received here to March 1st.—JV*. Y. Obs. Signal Triumph of Liberal Senti ments.—The London times of the 28th of February says, “the majority of 44 in the House of Commons, on Tues day night, in favor of the repeal ofthe celebrated Test and Corporation Acts, is in truth what may be called a thundering event. It will sound from one end of the kingdom to the other, and the echo will be heard in foreign parts.” London, Feb. 28.—The most cur rent rumors in the afternoon were, that the most dreadful excesses had been committed at Constantinople subsequent to the departure of the mail, which arrived from thence to day, and the Franks were all put to the sword, and that Government had ordered that the several regiments of infantry and cavalry should he imme diately put on board transports for the Morea. These rumors tended very much to add the uneasiness in the public mind, occasioned by the pros pect of w ar. M Old Skip.—The New Bedford Courier announces the arrival from the Pacific Ocean of the ship Maria. She was built in Massachusetts during the revolutionary war. Her register is dated 1782. She has performed 4 voyages to London. 3 to Brazil, 1 to the Indian Ocean, 1 to Faulk land I- slauds, and 15 to the Pacific Ocean— has doubled the Cape of Good Hope twice, and Cape Horn 3U times.— She was the first vessel which dis played the stars and stripes in the port of London. Montgomekv, Ala. April 11. Mr. Benjamin Hawkins, a half breed Creek Indian, has returned from the Arkansas, whither lie w ent in com pany with the emigrating party, lie reports, that the main body oi the em igrants are much pleased wall their they finding .9 Story of Lake Erie.—An Indian woman, and her child, who was about seven years old, were travelling along the beach to a camp a few miles dis tant. The boy observed some wild grapes growing upon the top of the bank, and expressed such a strong de sire to obtain theory that his mother, seeing a ravine at a little instance, by which she thought she could gaiu the edge of the precipice, resolved to gratify him. Having desired him to remain where he w r as, she ascended the steep, and w r as allured much far ther into the w - oods than she at first intended. In the mean time the w iud began to blow vehemently, but the boy wandered carelessly along the beach edge of the bank; sbe sprang forward M catch ids hand, but the ground ;.<y which he held giving way, he w as pi e* cipitated into the lake, and perished among the rushing billow's! A GOOD NAME. Their majesties of Sardinia, ac* cording to the Genoa Gazette, lately stood sponsors to a noble child, w ho was baptised, simply and shortly—* Charles Felix Joseph Marius Chrisli* us Denis Paul Francis-de-Puula Ber‘ nardin Anthony Raymond Gaetanus Jean Nepomucemis Andrew Avellitt MariusMes-Miracles Diego Peter d Alcantura. When this young gem tleirnm, wdio is the son of an ambassa* dor, c< mes to sign despatch notes, it will be, for brevity, in initials, C. F. J. M. C. D. P. F.-de-P. B. A. R, G. J. A. A. M.-des-M. D. P. d, AK cantura. Curious case in Medical Jurisprrt* dence.—A gentleman married & in cur harassed circumstances, suddenly dis appearing, it w as concluded that lit* had gone off to avoid his creditors, od which they met, declared him a bank rupt, ascertained the amount of hid property, and declared a dividend.— Among this property was a jointure ol‘ 200Z. a year to his wife, which they could legally claim, if he was a bonliV rupt. But if not, it continued th& property of his widow. Five weeks and four days from the morning of his disappearance, bis body was fount! floating in a neighboring river, and so putrid that it was identified chiefly by the dress, and the contents of the pockets. And here arose a question - , was he dead at the time he was de- t lared a bankrupt, and if so can a dead man be declared a bankrupt? One of his relatives, a veterinary surgeon, discovered, on carefully examining the body, that part of the flesh on the loins had been converted into a r.dipo- cire, this he cut, carried it off, and. showed it to l)r. Gibbs, who was? at that time superintending the Insti tution for the production of adipocire* and the result of w'hose extensive ex perience was, that it. was never form ed in less than six or eight weeks — This evidence was produced- on ti e trial, and was conclusive, and it. w as clear that the drow'ned man must have been under water since the morning of his disappearance, and consequent ly, that he was dead at the time when he was declared a bankrupt. In law';, a dead man cannot be made a bank rupt; the bankruptcy was set aside, and the jointure of 200/. a year re*' stored to the w idow.—Medical Gaz. location, they finding game in the greatest abundance, mid the surround-j seeking for shells, till the rapid rise iug tribes of Indians perfectly friend- of the lake rendered it impossible for ly. Col. Brearly may be expected in a veiyTew days; and we are induc ed to believe that the time is not fur distant when the whole Creek nation will remove west of the Mississippi. It is a fact not generally known, that the tribe of Creeks called, the Alabamas actually speak the same tongue as the Osages, and that a large body of them emigrated about forty years ago, whose descendants now form a part of the Osage Indians.— How the Alabamas could have sepa rated from the parent tribe, it is now matter of curiosity and conjecture. While on the subject, we would notice that some disturbances have lately taken place in the nation.— Capt. William Walker, of whose abil ities the government had availed them selves to induce emigration, lately e- rected a building for the purpose of storing the public property of the U- nited States. A party of Indians, of about thirty professing to act by the directions of the present authorit ies of the nation, have burned this build ing and threaten to destroy all others which shall be put there. The whole affair has been properly represented to the government.—Journal. Dreadful Occurrence.—As Mr. George Love, in Barre, Orleans County, on the 18th ult. was cutting wood near a maple sugar manufacto ry, his wife dodging from the flame which a gust of wind blew in her face threw* her head under her husband ,s axe. which descended upon her neck, and sever'd the muscles »ml tendons g,nd entered the bone. The iiafortu- The child that is permitted to not^ habitually from temper, is in the pros pect of ungovernable passions and the swing of the gallows, and its blood w ill be required at the bands of its impru dent parents, whose folly and wicked^" ness are equalled, in magnitude, only - by the momentous consequences that ensue, and the awful responsibility’ which the parents incur. The great* - est calamity that^ever befel ajehild, is an indiscreet parent who knows notlV ing of family discipline. ftCF* We are authorized to announed Richard Fields of Creek Path, a Candidate for the Committee, for Chattooga District. $0* o=»P!r Jtoo-zjj rjj, esy ssy i-ft SPK? DB TG-PotAar!. 0V1C=. Icp - We are authorized to announce Messrs. Walter Adair and Jonff Ridge as Candidates for the Commit tee for Cooseu'attec District. AlsO' Major Ridge, Tesahdaski, and James Foster, as Candidates for the* same District. We should like to receive the names of other Candidates. P an riespffwy c~iz ehi- CPhAOs 541VJ DhBjJji TG?P«6A U* lr(P8^ T.A0J*»th J.4. fcC3=* so-tLy, ae-rts-yz, tcrPiuz Uh* W®y TGr*P<»Aa^ O’hJlCs Irr»ei,A0T 5 tilfc. him to return to the spot where he had been left by bis mother. He imme diately began to cry aloud, and she be ing on her return, heard him, but in stead of descending the ravine, has tened to the edge of the precipice, from the bottom of which the noise seemed to proceed. On looking down, she beheld her son struggling w ith the waves and vainly endeavor ing to climb the bank, which was fifty feet perpendicular height and very slippery. There being no possibility of rendering him assistance, she was on the point of throw ing herself down lhe steep, when she saw him catcji hold of a tree that had fallen into the lake, and mount one of its most projecting branches. He sat astride upon this, almost beyond the surges, while she continued watching him in an agony of grief, hesitating whether she should endeavor to find her way to the eamp, and procure assistance, or remain near her boy. However, evening was now about to close, and as she could not proceed through the woods in the dark, she resolved at least to wait till the moon rose. She sat on the top of the precipice a w hole hour, and during that time oc- insionally ascertained that her son was alive, by bearing bis cries amidst the roaring of the waves; but when the moon appeared, he was not to be seen. She now felt convinced that he was drowned, and, giving way ii lespair. threw herself on the turf.-i- Presently she heard a feeble voice cry, (in Indian,) '‘Mamma I m here, CHEROKEE ALPHABET, come and help me.” She started up, [Neatly printed and for sale at this Office^ and saw her boy scrambling upon the <»vvy du fz*. DhZ AJvSCS«W©- an JC5h h>C4 <*>xa t* lri-Ry o^acr-iwy jAtd* D<xsd*- Jt-tfO-ir* O J 0-G DI-BZ Ty RX i)ri* RJi 0\W>- I' 4*4 JA^(T>. ■■j?” 1 . 1 !’." '■■■■■■ ■■i*t?"-!* 11 . 11 » NOTICE. T AKEN un on Tarripin Creek, by* Zachanah Simmons, on' the 19th inst* a BAY HORSE, With a smalt white on his forehead, about six years old, and five feet; and two inches high, and without any, •trand. J, VANN. April SOlh, 1828. 11-9.’