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RyoBir tjw tap kstpaa agb A\* Gay AD ©ZPU" IrAGVAdBB DG«(T» EJ Aax> B*V* GdBV DdSB^GT P4dBA BZJdWO- ir SSAi 0°hE®G?'A TJW TAP AAA. DB kyOBt* EhtE^ Dh A8AI AK.SJ'qs A A H *ba ts idey/5 1822, scwa h-ajow ®zp- P S6VAAWO DG(iT> EJAA>5 GdBy ®P «- OBT.y, HH VCJ G«*y O’AACTR PPOB <r O0TPAA, Dtf GO BTB, h>dBSSZSZ. GW 9 EfldRAT^A, Qd?y A.9«V* DBtfbdBPdBA FOR THE CHEROKEE PJKENIX. Mr. Editor:—In the debate in Congress the 20th March on the res olution of Mr. Woods of Ohio, I see the remarks of Mr. Mitchell of Ten nessee; and in opposing the resolution, he has been pleased to notice and bring into the debate the “abject and destitute condition” of the Cherokee Indians, as a fit weapon to bear down all opposition that might be in his way. But in this he has failed. If however his pitiful description of my country can be of any service in his hands to illustrate his argument, he is more than welcome to it. But he has certainly exaggerated the miseiies that we are compelled to suffer at the instance of our “chiefs and Na bobs.” Mr. M. is “ unfortunately our neighbour,” and is guilty of a two fold crime, because he professes to have o'correct knowledge of our con dition, when indeed, from reading his speech, I must believe that he labours under a “total ignorance of the true state of facts,” in regard to the Che rokee Indians. Whereas, if he had known correctly our condition, he cer tainly could not have so palpably mis represented our situation. But per haps he is “acting from excitement, and from a misconception of facts,”— Where are the facts that have been so strangely perverted and miscon strued? lias not Mr. M. himself, “Nabob” like,endeavoured to shut ev ery avenue of common sense, that he might create and diffuse “wrong im pressions” on the public mind in rela tion to this nation? And has he not assumed false positions, the “only ten dency” of which “must be to excite unnecessary debate, to terminate at last in odium and disgust” and that up on his own head? He cannot expect any thing else, and it is a source of real regret to “hear and read such extravagant statements,” made in the house of Representatives, and that by one who professes to have a correct knowledge of the whole subject. But upon reading his speech “carefully,” we see upon the very face of it nothing but evidence of a “total ignorance of the true state of facts.” Mr. M. says, in respect to particu lar tribes, some gentlemen may be under the impression that they are rising to the “highest point of moral and intellectual improvement.” “I am aware (says he) that some gentle men here very honestly entertain such an opinion with respect to the Chero- kees.” As to the “ moral and intel lectual improvement” of the Cherokee Indians, it is but just to say that they are far from the “ highest point of moral and intellectual improvement,” and there are few nations who can claim these high sounding epithets; and we do not wish to make any such impression on any nation or individual. But we certainly have a claim on Mr. M’s candour, and to have said the least of us as a nation would have been that the Cherokee Indians were rapidly progressing in the arts and sciences, and ere long they would oc cupy an important station among the nations of the earth.* “I know (says he) the chiefs personally and am ac- miainted with the condition of the Tribe.” ThiB statement, as io the former part, may be true; but as to his acquaintance with our condition as a nation, 1 must be permitted still to believe that belabours under a “total ignorance of the true state of facts.” “ While {he chiefs (says he) are Na bobs, living luxuriously, and\exercising despotic liower, the mass ofvhe nation are in the most abject and ^destitute condition.!* Now I would Vk Mr. Mitchell f his information is no^found- ed on “a ki«conception of faciy.”— Where did he ever see a “ chief dr a Nabob living luxuriously” in the Che rokee nation, and exercising and ac- knowleding no law but that of his own will; and dealing away the lives of the “mass” just as Mr. M. does his words under a “misconception of facts?” The truth is that we only have a principal and assistant chief, nor do we feel or acknowledge any “Nabob” or “despotic power” in our government. “And in saying this 1 intend no reflection” on the veracity of Mr. Mitchell. Our “Chiefs” or “Nabobs” no more dare attempt to exercise “despotic power” over the “destitute mass,” than one of the lowest grade of Russian “boors” dare insult his Emperor. Our chiefs ex ercise no authority but what is grant ed by law, and if Mr. M. wishes to store his mind with “correct informa tion” about our nation, I would advise him to take a ride to the interior of it, and seek an interview with our “Chiefs” oi “Nabobs,” I think that he would “find” them “as frank and as communicative as he could desire,” by doing so he would no longer per haps labout under that “ ignorance,” which he s« much attributes to other gentlemen. Mr. M. is certainly at tempting to sport with the good sense of the house of which he has the hon or to be a member,—and whenever he addresses the house, they cannot but expect some specimen of his in genuity in wiping away the foul stain of “misconception” from the house “Yes more wretched and abject (says he) than the lowest hordes of Russi an boors.” In this delineation of hor rid wretchedness, which he wishes to convey as applicable to the Chero- kces, 1 can but say that I would not exchange my “abject and destitute condition,” for his “high point of mor al and intellectual improvement.'’— He may be an excellent model, but I for one do not envy his talents or his situation, and no doubt if the recom mendations of Mr. M. were carried into effect, we would sooner or later experience the slavish state of the Russian “boors” in all its horrors, and “abject” wretchedness, and ere long be driven in “hordes” to the wilds of the Mississippi. And so long as Mr M. “ continues” to labor under such “ignorance,” “the practical effect of which goes only to make false im pression through the country,” it is to be feared that the condition of the In dians will never be bettered. I always thought that it was better to advance the truth at all times, no matter how desperate the cause upon which we plead; and if Mr Mitchell had taken truth for his guide he would have saved himself from much “odium and disgust.” He does not wish to oppress us, no, not he good “neighbour” likj, but would ra ther come forward and “adopt some plan which would improve” our “con dition instead of riveting our chains and suffering a few chiefs and head men to trample down the rest into the dust.” Mr. Mitchell need not trou ble himself about this, because if the Indians saw cause to tie up every day one of the “mass” and “give him hundred lashes, it is only a matter in which the Indians alone are concern ed,” and Mr. M. “for one” has business to interfere.” A bad excuse is better than none and I suppose that his condescending friendship to unrivet our “chains and improve? our conditions,” is only to oh tain our lands; but he never can make us believe that we are so “abject and destitute” as to be unworthy to re main and ocenpy our present homes Yes, as long as the Cherokees remain jnst and peaceable in their intercourse with their “unfortunate” “neighbors” and retain a true sense of the value of their situation, so long will they con tinue to occupy the lands of their fore fathers; hut as soon as they become over burdened with “moral and intel lectual improvement,” so as to be “under a total ignorance of the true state of facts,” it is then to be feared that their dissolution is nigh, and that they will experience the “practical effects” of Mr. Mitchell’s recommen dation. I fear that Mr. M> has ex perionced the debilitating effect* of disease, for I think the powers of his intellect have grown weaker, and that his conceptive powers are about to take their flight. I hope the “con duct” of Mr. M. “proceeds from right motives and good feelings.”— But I say that he is “ignorant of the true state of facts,” and in saying this ’ intend no reflection. I do not charge this ignorance as a reproach, it is mere absence of correct information, ‘and this” I am sure “implies no re flection on the powers of Mr. M’s mind, or the feeling of his heart.”— I am persuaded his conduct origin ates from a good heart.” And as Mr. M. is a gentleman of finq “taste” and feels a delicacy “to attempt to draw dark picture, even of a savage,” I would conclude that he did not in tend his remarks as applicable to the Cherokees, and upon the whole, in all probability, he is not serious in his manner of communicating his ideas. conclude by wishing him a speedy reformation; for this is not the first time, he has been charged with incon sistency about our situation, and I am induced to believe that the remarks of are from Alpha to Ome ga entirely destitute of any foundation . I hope he will excuse me for quoting so much of his lan guage, but I am so much under the impression that he was “acting from excitement,” and that too under the influence of “ignorance,” that I could not forbear to take his own weapon to lash him in return. He certainly deserves severe handling, but being of the opinion that it is more becoming to spare my “ unfortunate neighbor” than to triumph over his ruin, think ing, too, that his conscience is suffi ciently mortified, and that it will hereafter act as a silent monitor to guide him in the path of rectitude, I am One of “the mass.” * Provided however, the strong arm of the United States protect us in our rights, and not disorganize us by recommending projects of emigration, when it is contrary to our wish. We do not expect ever to be a great nation, in the common sense of the word, for our population is too trifling to entitle us to that appellation. We may, nevertheless, by our improvement in the various departments of fife, gain the res pect and esteem of other nations. Or, should we blended with th United States, (which perhaps may be the case,) we shall enjoy the privileges of her citizens, and receive in common, the regard due to her from abroad. • Edi FOR THE CHEROKEE PHCENIX. t am informed by your eleventh number that marshal has appeared a- gain, in support of his former position, that the council and their treasurer did not abandon their principles The reluctance with which he appears to be so prudently possest in the on set of his canto, in coming before the public, a second time, I am sorry has had so small an influence on the manner in which he has shivered his lance against the late President of the committee. If marshal’s known pru dence had been endangered, by my accidental introduction of his name to the public, he would then had a hap py right to have maintained any ques tions without his visible perplexity If marshal had been actuated by an honorable zeal in the efforts made for the restoration of bis principles to their radical situation, I would have remained silent, to the adequacy of my last piece to have given me all the support due my position. The mild ness with which lie has endeavored to canvass the questions, compared with his former storm, should be highly creditable for entering upon the du ties of his political hyperbole in a propi tious temper, to trace and establish the charter line to the great touch stone which he has so acutely de tected to be removing, but the mate rials which he has employed in the performance of that work, is better adapted to the productions of mistakes and fruitless arguments, than to pro duce conviction of the correctness of his cause. As he has introduced some certainly unfounded charges against the late President in not availing an opportunity to preserve the principles alledged to be violated I have a right to appear again. Permit me then to respond particularly to some of his prominent flounces, and other opin ions, to which f cannot subscribe, do contend that principles can be a bandoned when they exist in theory When they become in this situation they commence the government of the individual posseser in his civil pro ceedure. For what purposes are principles imbibed? I presume for the express object of substituting such for his future guide, in the usage of which, all others to the contrary, should be subsequently obsolete. And then to decline to carry into effect the substituted principles, and resume those ones into practice, antecedently decided unfit, i fearlessly pronounce such a course a departure from prin ciple. An instance may be found in the United States when persons high in the road to preferment have been censured for abandoning principles; if I am correctly informed, transpired where they existed in theory alone.—* For when principles are in lawful exis tence, &. a collision arise against them, or an appointment of an officer is made against the standard that is to govern^ it is then a violation or an unconstitu tional appointment. These princi ples which I consider revolutionized had their origin in a convehtion after ' every member was duly qualified be-- - fore the mighty Omuiscient. After discovering inveterate practices exist ing of one person holding a plurality of offices to be unadvisable, and the cus tom should be discontinued, and con tinue an extravagant surrender of ma ny offices to one person, is a circum stance calculated to prove, a disposi tion, reluctant to conform to the pro claimed principles. When there was existing every inducement to bring into exemplary use, their solemly a- dopted principles. It undoubtedly was easier for the council and their treasurer to have brought into prac tice their principles which then exist ed in proper form, than recede to the extreme in the use of the old customs existing almost in an indescribable confused mass, for I know there was nothing that would arrest them from such a course of consistency. The aspirations of marshal to know to what extent the President of the commit tee, exerted his patriotic influence as preventative, to the abuse of my fa vorite principles, can be informed to his satisfaction if it be in the bounds of possibility to place him in that de sirable condition. As to the quantum of patriotism that he might have been possest at the time will be a little difficult to define. But it will suf fice if it can be shewn that he bad at least as much as would have been a * contravention to the judge’s election. When this distinguished individual was announced a candidate for the treasu ry, the President called the attention of the Committee to the case, and ♦ob served to them that the judge had come out a candidate for the treasu ry Deptartment, and holding other of fices as he did appeared to him a course exceptionable, besides the con stitution was about to take its force from that council appeared to him to be setting aside principles. The com mittee did not examine the question, because no doubt they saw through their imagination that New Echota was the unsafest place for the treasu ry. What more could the president have done with propriety in support of principle than he did, I wish also to be informed. He was not asleep on the watch tower during the contest, but was seated on an old pine bench in the chamber of the National Commit tee. Likewise I am disposed to dissent from the probability that the Presi dent’s office was in analogy to the judg e’s. This offer happened in tile fatter part of the session. The President had to serve but a few days longer, and then his office was legally out of existence. His offer was in anticipa tion of taking the department when the council ad journed, which was close at hand, and which will be ponfirmed from the circumstance that the trea surer had of necessity to serve until the rise of Council. Admitting he had been elected treasurer, he would have exereijed the duties of but one office, the former treasurer could not surren der the treasury until "his settlement with the Commissioners had closed, which lasted to the eve of the s ession, this act appears to be plainly accept ing an office after another one had le gally ceased. Common capacity will fall short of understanding this case td be a resemblance of the Judg’s ex ercising the duties of four different of fices, and the keenest discrimination in the investigation of this subject, would arrive at its weakness to step on the side of marshal’s scale of justice to make a judicious decision. Another Ponderous charge again, a- gainst the late President, Appears to a- rise from his local situation at N Echo ta as the principle by which he has as pired to seek for the treasury De partment, but if magnanimity was the only tribunal requisite to pronounce bis offer, a public condemnation in or der to benefit his position 1 , I hope the same cannot view less culpable the la»>