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Chief Shoe Bx.>;s* at a public meet*
m »jt ng of the Creeks in m,>/presence,
au 1 addressed to me on the day and
at the place before mentioned,
(Signed) D. B. MITCHELL
•Agentfor I. A.
* Interpreted by the old chief Shoe Boole.
It was proved before General Coffee, of
Alabama, by the Affidavit of five respecta-
tie men in this nation, that Shoe Boots
was incapable of interpreting a sentence of
the Cherokee into thejfcnglish language. As
we have net the Affidavit in our possess*
ion we think it necessary to relate this
fact.—Ed. Cher. Phcc.
General William M Intosh, some
short time previous to the treaty of
1825, held at the Indian Springs. in-
Jo’med me that there was a strip ol
Country about thirty miles in width
Ihea in possession of tho Cherokee tia-
tion. He stated it had been irt dis
pute some years and was compromis
ed by a ba|l-play in favour of said
Cherokee Nation of Indians.
HUGH W. ECTOR.
jlfilleilSeville JVo». 29th 1829.
W? have notv presented before tlie pub-
li all the testimonies on the pait of Geor
gia which have come to our knowledge,
& vW.h litv* ben coast ltrsd by that;stale
as fully establishing her claim to the line
run by Col. Wales. The reader can judge
— IVe thirik the weakness of the evidence is
fully apparent, especially when met by
counter statements, to which we shall now
commence t6 devote a portion of of our
Ctolumns.
CHEROKEE PHOENIX AND INDIANS’ ADVOCATE
James Daniel, late one of the Judg
es of the Cherokee Courts, in the
Cherokee nation, aged forty years,
has been raised in the southeastern
part of the Cherokee nation—is ac
quainted on the Appalaehy and Clint-
tfthoocliy rivers,—he thinks the High
Shoals of the Appalaehy is nearly a-
bout doe east from the Buzzard roost
bn Chattahoocby—-he knows of the
place called Satvanah Old Town on
Chattahoocby and the place called
Buzzard Roost on the same river,
nnd lie never knew of any other plac
es known by these names. He fur
ther states that he was educated in
Gr^en County Georgia, and when
there he has frequently hoard the
subject of the boundary between the
Cre sks and Cherokees mentioned a-
mongst the people of that county, as
running from the High Shoals of Ap-
.palachy a direct course to the mouth
of Will’s creek on Coosa river, and he
jfj'ivavs received the same impression
Irons the Cherokees. Given under
my hand in the Cherokee nation.
JAMES DANIEL.
6th December, 1829.
T’st
JAMES SAUNDERS,
ROBERT D. HARRIS.
Cherokee Nation,
„ 6th Dec. 1829.
George Saunders a half breed
Cherokee, aged about fifty ssven
slates that lie was born and raised in
the southeastern part of the Chero
kee Nation: that he lias always since
he was grown been familiar with
what was thought to be the line that
divided the lands of the Creek Na
tion from those of the Cherokees as
claimed by the Cherokee Nation, and
which was as follows: Beginning at
the old Cherokee corner, which stands
about 25 miles east of the High Shoals
of the Appalaehy, and to run thence to
the said High shoals of Apalacliy, nnd
thence a direct line to the mouth of
Will’s Creek on the Coosa river.—
This was the understanding of the
Cherokees so far as I have under
stood it. The above statement is
nude at the special request of Gen
eral Coffee United States’ Commis
sioner, desiring me to state what I
know of the old and true line between
the Creeks and Cherokees, and which
is as stated above according to the
best of my knowledge asd recollec
tion. I have never known of but ono
place called the Savvanah Old town,
and but one place called Buzzard
Roost, and they are both on the Chat
Thomas Woodward, a half breed
raised a company of Cherokees and
went to Easley’s Cow pen and drove'
off theffamily and burnt tbn improve
ment as being on Cherokee lands.—
lie think* this took place 21 or 22
years ago.
his
GEORGE SANDERS*
mark. <
Test
ROBERT D. HARRIS,
JAS. DANIEL,
JAS. SANDERS.
1 George G. Weatherspoon, a citi
zen of Gwinnett County, in the State
of Georgia, have resided in he coun
try about .six years—1 have
heard a great deal said since I have
been in this country about the line
that divided the lands of tile Creek
and Cherokee nations, and have had
some curiosity and anxiety to ascer
tain what was the true line between
those nations, which has led to many
conversations with the old settlors
oft Ins country on that subject, fromLall
of which 1 have been informed that
the line between the two nations be
gan at the High Shoals of Appalaehy
and run with the Hightower path
which passeth at the north foot of
the stone mountain and to the Shallow
ford on the Cliatlahoochy.
G. G. WEATHERSPOON.
Sworn to and subscribed before
me, this 9tli December, 1829.
ISAAC GILBERT Jr.
Gwinnett County, Ga.
At John Roges, Cherokee Nation.
9th December 1S29.
I Daniel Clover, a resident, of
Gwinnett County in the Slate of Geor
gia, now sixty eight years of age,
have lived in the State of Georgia
thirty four years. 1 settled near
Greensborough in Georgia about 33
years since-, when the Indian^ of both
Cherokee and Creek nations w r ere
frequently in trading at Greensbo-
rough. Alexander Dale, and John
Fuller were at that time trading
with the Indians, and went out to the
nutions on their trading tours. I be
came well acquainted with both of
them. Mr. Dale, now Col. Dnle of
Alabartia, was frequently at my house
and I bad many conversations with
him about ilie Indians on various sub
jects, 1 delicti him if lie know the line
between the two nations,—lie said he
did know it, that it began at the old
Cherokee Corner in Georgia and run
thence to the High Shoals of Apa-
lacliy, and thence with the old High
tower path to the Shallow ford on
Chattahoociiy; but I have no recol
lection that lie stated the line any
further. The old Cherokee Corner
that 1 have mentioned stands about
eight miles from Athens in Georgia,
I have seen it frequently ever since I
first came into the Country,—it is
marked on a white oak & a number of
other trees, and the marks had th
appearance of being very old when
first saw it. I do not knew by whom or
when it was made, hut it has always
been called the old Cherokee corner.
DANIEL CLOVER.
Sworn to and subscribed before
me, this 9th December, 1829.
ISAAC GILBERT Jr.
Gioinnctl County, Georgia.
affected ntuth contempt of them and
their laws. Among all the subjects
of ridicule,however, which he sought,
he.pould find only two old and stale
laws of the Cherokees, which he in
troduced to discredit their ability iii
making laws. These he introduced
for the sake of deriding what had been
called their civilization. Mr. Sprague
happHy; answered him by summarily
declaring that the gentleman had him
self brought forward the most cogent
argument to prove their civilization,
when lie introduced to the Senate of
Hite United States two printed volumes
of their law§.
Nothing could exceed the argument
of Mr. Sprague for clearness, con
nectedness, and conclusiveness. As
a Senator remarked to liie, it was like
a chain of mathematical evidence.—
The general features of this gentle
man’s countenance reSertible those of
Mr. Webster, though they are less
prominent and striking. Helms (prob
ably insensibly) caught something of
iiis manner. Nor is he so very far
from him in logical acumen, but he is
rather too slow in the impassioned
parts of his delivery: thus detracting
from tho power which would other
wise accompany the effusion of his an
imated thoughts. He had truth and
justice oh his side, and well did he
vindicate their honor. If I mistake
not, no speech on this question in ei
ther House will appear better in print
to the meditative inind of one sitting
down to be instructed. The keen
bright eye of Sprague is no deceitful
image of his mind. He must rise high
nnd have influence. Though not, I be
lieve, professedly a religious man, lie
is strictly moral, and perhaps, may
be called “almost a Christian.” 1
whs jdeased with bis very reverent
allusions to the Supreme Being, so
different from the reckless manner of
most Southern and Western speakers,
who use the name of God, as a Ro
man would the name of Jupiter. Mr.
S. Imd the advantage of Mr. Freling-
huysen in his—may I term it—strong
coolness oj manner, and in the lucidus
ordo—-the masterly arrangement ofliis
arguments, presenting every consecu
tive part and the crowning whole in a
manner that could not be mended.
Mr. Webster was seen to take
notes during a part of Mr. Forsyth’s
apcccli, but (i oevure cold lias occa
sioned his frequent absence since tile
commencement of the debate. Per
haps he will sum up.
“William Penn” is seen silting a-
mong the spectators, taking notes of
the speeches.
An attempt has been made to bring
forward the question in the House,
but without success.
The funeral of Alexander Smyth,
late of Virginia, w r as attended to-day.
His body reposes among the distin
guished dead, (alas! no more distin-
girishcd,) where Gerry, Pinkney,
Howell, Gaillard, and others lie, to
await the summons of the Great Arch-
nngcl. Yours, &c.
tably an orator in the best *ense of the
term. He is a man of inild tempera
ment. Calm and deliberate io his or
dinary method of speaking, I did not
think he could be so rouseu as he was
on Saturday. But when I perceived
his eye lit up wifli a uew fire; his ac
tion* almost vehement; his voice ex-
ptessivc of the deepest feeling, the
conviction was irresistable. I said, it
is the influence of a holy cause upon a
high and noble mind, that has produced
this energy. In every appearance be
fore the public, Mr. Sprague has been
characterized by eloquence and good
taste. On Saturday, however, he
seemed to excel even himself, iiis
reasoning was rnbst logical nnd con
clusive. He took up the arguments
of his opponents, onte by one; and iri a
gentle, manly hiahner showed them to
be mere “trifles light as air.”—
Througout Iiis whole speech there
could be found no weak places, or a
single point, which in a fair controver
sy would have been objectionable.—
Mr. Sprague has many resources, and
ho brought them all to bear on this
subject. Experience,observation, mo
dern history, ancient lore, Biblical re
cord, all contributed to strengthen &
illustrate the sontimehts lie was ex
pressing. Some portions of his speech
were specimens of the keenest satire.
There was no coarseness; he wound
ed his adversary most deeply, but it
was with a polished weapoil; not as an
assailant, or in a revengeful spirit, but
simply ai a necessary Self-defence.—
The natural right arid tho legal claim
of the Indians to their own land, were
made perfectly clear to every candid
mind. After he had brought forward
the usages, the laws, the best feelings
of mankind, in favor of the Indian
cause, Mr. S. finally riiade the most
successful appeal to tlie sanctions of
religion. Me carried the cruel per
secutors of this unfortunate people to
a higher tribunal; he reminded them
of that day of reckoning, of whose re
alities they riiuSt take a part, and that
just Judge, with whom cruelty and
injustice willjineet their due and aw
ful reward. Thus did Mr. Sprague
prove himself the eloquent defender
of the oppressed Indians. How this
debate will terminate 1 know not. i
have boen told that there is not enough
of righteousness in our land tn prnteri
the injured—that the oppressor will
triumph. 0, my country! can it be—
must thou be thus disgraced? Shall thy
peaceful borders be disturbed with tho
tear of anguish, the cries of distress,
calling for aid, arid there be found none
to succor? Unworthy of thee as are
too many of lliy sons, still whilst thou
hast a Sprague and a Frelinglniysen to
ift up their voices in behalf of jus
tice and humanity, thou shalt not be
without honor; iniquity and oppression
shall not go on with impunity, and un
disturbed in their desolating career.
Adieu—Yours, &c.
R. T. Y.
persons, and that the offence was co<n*&
initted.by a couple of trifling white
men. They are pursued by active
enterprising white* and Indians, and
no doubt they are ere this arrested.
The unfortunate man was shot in the
left arm near the shoulder, and but for
the brillet glancing by striking the
bone would have been killed upon tlie
spot; it ranged across the breast bqt
without- woundifg the same. He
suffers very much, we are however m
hopes he will recover.
CHEROKEE PIHENIX.
■ ■V
NEW ECHOTA MAY 15, 1830. ‘ •
From the New York Observer.
IV asiungton, April 19; 1830.
Dear Sir—To the information
contained in my last, I have little to
add this week, except that Mr. Fre-
lingliuysen was succeeded on the In
dian question by Mr. M’Kinley, of
Alabama, who took tlie opposite sido
of the question with considerable ap
pearance of argument, but whose in
feriority to bis predecessor in debate
was palpable to all. "He possesses,
however, a quality always commenda
tory—the appearance of sincerity.—
A voice of unwonted harshness or ra
ther hoarseness impairs Ids elocution.
He served to prepare the way for Mr.
Forsyth, who debates well even on
UUU a„ .—j ... | the wrong side. He has an air of
tahooeby anti are generally known by much courtesy, dresses wi<h peculiar
those names. He further states that j neatness, and between his head, which
his brother Alexander Saunders was
living at the old Survanah town on
the Chattahooehy river about the
year 1807 or 1808, and at the same
time a man by tho name of Rhode
Ens'ey. a citizen of Georgia, who for
merly had a store at tho High Shoals
of the Apalaebv, and he fcad also a
.lock of cattle and established a cow
pen on tho west side of the Apalacliy
about 4 or 5 miles wtst of the High
a
is quite grey, and the rest of Iiis per
son, which is more youthful, there
seems a struggle for the mastery. In
this debate lie exhibited much* cool
ness of manner, and a kind of confi
dence of success which probably a-
rose from his knowledge of the views
of the President and a ma jority of the
Senate. I was sorry (o hear him call
tho Indians repeatedly, '•'•these poor
devilsJ 11 It was language unbecoming
Shoals nnd settled a stock keeper i a dignified Senator, an orator of pure
\i«re—that Alexander .Sanders and;speech, or a man of delicacy. lie
From the American Spectator.
The Indian Question—Mr. Sprague.
Washington, April 20 1830.
My Esteemed Friend: Pursuant
to your request, 1 will now commence
our correspondence. Without apolo
gies or promises that my letter will be
filled with erudite or interesting sub
jects, discussed in a sage-like manner,
I will write to you on matters and
things ip general, on whatever is
transpiring in our great Capitol, or in
deed, on any thing under the sun that
interests me.
To your inquiries I would reply, the
subject which at present is occupying
our Senate, is the Indian Question.—
This mode of expression you may not
understand. Situated as you are in a
retired village,and unacquainted with
the intricate arts of hypocrisy and
double dealing, you may think it
strange for one to cnll the appeal of
(lie Cherokees a question. You would
rather *ay a hint to remind the legisla
tors of the United States that the
Cherokees will now avail themselves
of thoir plighted promises. But, in
credible os it is, the assembled wisdom
of our nation are gravely deliberating
on the question, Shall wo fulfil what
we have sworn to perforin? Shall we
prove ourselves honest nien, or the ver
iest clenarters from truth that ever in
habited our planet?
I had tlite pleasure on Saturday of
hearing Mr. SpAague, of Maine, take
a part in this present debate. lie had
indeed the aids of humanity, justice,
nlid religion, tosupport Iiis arguments;
but never was a cause more eloquent
1j advocated. Mr. Sprague is indispu
Our readers will perceive, from the pro-*
ceedingsof the, Semite, that the bill re^
ported hy Mr. White has passed that bo
dy and the amendments proposed by Mr.
Frefinghuyscn rejected! So we feared it
would be the case. It lias been a matter
of doubt with us for some time, whether
there were sufficient virtue and indepen
dence in the two houses of Congress, to
sustain the plighted faith of the Republic,
which has been most palpably sacrificed
by the convenience of the Executive-,
Our doubts are now at an end—the An-
gust Senate of the United States of Amertv
ca, (tell it not in Gath, publish it not in the
streets of Askelon,) has followed the heels
of the President, and deliberately laid a-
side their treaties.. They have declared
that they will not he governed by these
solemn instruments, made and ratified hy
their advice and consent. When it comes;
to this, we have indeed fallen upon evil
times. Very soon the House of Represen
tatives will decide, if it has not already dc
cided, on this important question. It is
much to lie feared the Representatives of
the people will not respond to the views
and feelings of their constituents, hut de—
liver their weak allies to their enemies .
Be that as it may—let both Houses of Con-,
gross deride as they may, wo confidently
think justice will he done, even if the Che*
rokcos are not in the land of the living to
receive it—posterity will give a correct"
verdict. But we are not now making such
an appeal—we hope we aro not yet at the
end of our row—we hope there is yet a tri
bunal where our iujured rights may bp de-.
fended and protected, and where self in*,
terert, tarty and sectional feelings have,
nothing to do.—Let then the Cherokees!
he firm and united—Fellow citizens, we
have asserted our rights, we have defend
ed th-m thus far, and we will defend litem
yet by all lawful and peaceable means.—\
We will no more, beg, pray and implore;
but we will demand just ice, and before we
give up and allow ourselves to despondency
we will, ifivecan, have the solemn ad
judication of a tribunal, whose province is
to interpret the treaties, the supreme law of
the land. Let us then be firm and united>
From the Nashville Whig and Banner.
INDIAN HOSTILITIES.
Extract from a letter to the editor, dated,
Columbus, Miss. April 23.
You have no doubt heard of the
great dissatisfaction that at present
prevails among the Choctaws, between
the several districts, in consequence
of tho late proposition to Government
for the sale of their lands, &c.
At their late council held at Wil
son’s, in March ult. two of their chuffs,
Col. FuIsomi and Mr. Garland resign
ed, and Col. Lafloor, as they say, was
partially declared Chief or King of the
whole nation,—it having beicn done by
a minority of the natives thereof: and
there being a great many opposed to
selling at any price; and Laffoor hav
ing many personal enemies, in conse
quence (parily) of having their la\> s
enforced, which aro very severe, for
drunkenness and other vices. The
tattlers, therefore, had ample gronnds
lor indulging the news-carrying, and
no doubt adding greatly thereto. The
opposing parties are therefore vio
lently incensed at each other, and the
districts adjoining ufi, are hourly ex
pecting the commencement of hostili
ties, and in fact there are various con
jectures as to the final issue of this
matter.
Yesterday morning a traveller,
whose name is Hamlet, was shot in
the nation about twelve miles below,
on the Orleans road, by some person
ill ambush; and from the intelligence
received we were at first satisfied
that the outrage was committed by
Indians; we are however happy to say,
that w'e are now convinced the Indi
ans are clear, to the satisfaction of all
The following needs no comment.. It
seems the laws of Georgia are not rigid e»
nough—the citizens must therefore resort
to the rod, without trial or jiiry, to correct
the poor Indians.
Hail Columbia happy land!
From the Columbus Enquirer.
At a meeting of fifty-three citizens
of Randolph county, called in 24tU
district, for the purpose of adopting
some rule or regulation to put a stop
to the Creak Indians hunting and pil-
aging our country and destroying out-
stocks. The meeting being formed,
the following resolutions were erter-
ed into:
Resolved, That in future if any Ii»
dian or Indians he found in this county
hunting or passing with n gun or gun*
and camp equipage appearing for
camping and hunting, it shall be the
duty of the person or persons, 60 see
ing or finding said Indian or Indians, to
give immediate information to a suffi
cient number of tlie above citizens,
and they shall proceed to lake from
them their arms and all the property
found with them and inflict oft theft*
backs not exceeding fifty lashes with
a hickory or cowskin and ordei them
over the Chattahoochee, and if they
do not immediately proceed to go and
is found lurking or apparently way lay
ing the party he shall receive double
his first punishment.
Resblved, That all the arriis and o-
ther property taken from the Indians
hy this company, shall be publicly ad
vertised and sold to the highest bidder,
and the proceeds to go to the use of
the county.
Resolved, That if any member of
this company when called to turn out
refuse or neglect to turn out to assist
to detect Indians shall pay the sum of
two dollars for each offence, unless
be'can give sufficient excuse.
Resolved, That the proceedings of
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