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jOL. XXVIII 1*0 91
COLUMBUS, GEORGIA, FRIDAY MORNING, APRIL 16 188G
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New York. April 15 The follow.
Ji g i- M it pi rt i f a' O' nfprpnee 195
IP t>. v uy hr’wccri Mt Guild M
It it i Al B n:nv It. Mr P -
<1 . v. M. H ; \ s, Mr BP D w.il, Mr
It l.j • i u Mr Term r, Atareli 30,
lt'.'-G, 111. D :
Mi G iii<!—'M P< wrlerlv: A J to
Hi . ii.iuvlew Will' yon ou Bui day.
H Vvi.c wii in or!u* me ;!•»*
tbit g w p e»d v-i'iu u my e,\ provai.
1 wteut. '.rsimUo u!il rue i.
lt>dividu» : B-'-o«l <!>»' wi>M (rnspired
Yufi if! hr r.l.clly C!I flrteoMiil and if
w-y pert r f that rnrvrisu inn enmr
cu 1 , wliy the whole interview ought
to c iff.e out
Me Powderly—“ N thing h»s e,,
c jut me et «!l I i ave r.o! “bid a
word sir h! any cnvcismion ”
Mi G u .I—"I paw in th-- tapers
lit > ex jnorni. g a garbl'd unite-
in. lt o' what ok t I. co si r! I had
not r pern -i n. y m u h ”
Mr Powderly—• I did not come
fr ot”
AG GodM - “I) (I it come from Mr
M. D veil?”
M Mi Dowell- N | you know *be
report' t° niar.uf'eiuie things when
tbr y rl' r'l (f t I'.”
Mr Goo d—H re 7 s a *< k-pram that
1 r u fr m Mi H.-xie. I t.-ijrl y u I
v uld send Mr U. xic Mja’ dlspu'cb
A 's'frrB "'tie, ytetirday uirru-
irg, »h-li I got down, town, I g> f
th*"Tr' , ni MrHcx-e H-- : "I
have your me s\ s ir --eiati n to you
iD'erview wi' h Mr P w krly, mid
also thelel'er of iDstruc’intip, and
wi'l »rry out the acme ’o fbe ''e-,t of
m.y abllltj' ” I !'ec\ he i» now pro
c odli g to carry ou' the instructions
1 gave him A copy rfyour letv*r >o
Pi-wderly, and of his order to - lions
ar't to I he knights of labor now oa o
etr'ke, aleo upppiircd in th's morn
ipg’s papers heft r- I had had an ops
portunity, you si n to send it to him
iuyipif, end the following interview
with Mr P "woeriy, which is vrlr- d
from N >w Y- < k :
"Mr G u! 1 reongn'z s ur order..”
he EaiU "at d addresses me hy t‘-e
title of G M W— general mus'er
workman. There -» err g~rm: r ieur.v
dersiamliiig" which <ur C/riLretc
ch area up ulnaoat InmwdiB'piy Had
MiG uld keen at dome, wt er 1 . id
a chance to see him, this a r ke 1 utu
ceriain would not nave taken more
than two or three d>vs. I am e h,. i --
fil'd he wilt be ready ■ h ve all dif
terenoiB iiscusset! in the fu u r e be'or.
there is necessity for a s':.k> This
is a pleasant ending o 7 n unplfasu-n
bur-imss, and ope atm. ft uiways sure
to Ci.nie in when (he head, of "ppos
ing condi.ions cc e tige'ber and
talk over matiera, Mi P wderly is u*
meet Mr G uid a! 9:30 ’cl. ck Mon
day morning, and ih< n the commit
tee of arbitration will be appointed
as originally suggested by the<x cu
tive b ard, three tte .-jbe-B by eiidt
side, and 'hey to choose s B-v-nlh
Mr Piiwderly’s order includes from
12,000 to 14 000 men. employe of the
Irou Moui.'alD, M s art P oifle,
Miseoufi, K nees and lixi^ and
'ft Xus P.iCific I 1 wlso ii.cluoeo the
me'- ou the local ro-nie iu mit g i:.i!o
8- L uis ”
[Signet*] H M Hoxie
Mr MtDJWfcll —Y ,j will etc on
the face of li tht. .he luitcr p:;rt of
that is the reportff’p own Hd'iing
My uoderetandii g wn> that if un
order w.re sent by Mr Pow Jerly to
coptiiiiie work, then he order ai d
the letter sub to be given to lb*
pre. s
Mr Qru’d—I did not under..land
that there was un; ■ id-.r to he i su a
hy Mr P wderly. 1 lad no utiier
Btaini.t.g at an, Mi Pi.wd* rly said
Hist he had on hie rniuu the q s o
whether le would not revoke tt.e
charter cf 1( 1, bat !h> y usd ui - .I.ey-
ed the lawnofthe org«i z t.op Wnec
in s * < ihr.i, I .ai- : ' i -.ave no ob» |
jecu.-u to show you pow a telegr-.m
whi. h 1 h‘!:.!1 s :d Mr
Htxiti tomorrow morning I
get down town ib u 9:3U
and I shall send U when I get there,
and I road the diepatch acd Mr
Powdor.y raid tha [ he appioved of it
and aik-.d if I would not give Inin a
copy of it, which I did. N >w it is
ali wrong to niis.ronstrue me and pui
me before my b ; erlDtendeuts out
there m tin light of Laving eaul one
ttting oue day 8pu whipped around
bdU said another thing another day.
Itd.atroys ali organization.
Mr McDowell—I hud not finished
when you interrupted me. My un
derstanding when Mr Powderly left
was that “I was to remain and
would receive your letter, and
then if the order was sent out
by the executive board for the men
to return to work, that the order and
letter wau to be given to the pre-s.
If line order was not sent out then
the letter was to he returned and de
livered io you,
Mr Gould—There was no under
standing like that.
Mr Powderly—As to the revoca-
tiou of the charier, I asked the ques
tion, "Buppose I did do that, how
much better would It make 1 ? These
men out there would understand that
nobody cared for them;” and I asked
the question, "Wilt it uat make ma! , «
tera wont?” Is that not tae way I
pot ItT
Mr Gould—"P ssibly you might.
I understood that that wpb what you
were going to do.” Mr Hopkins
followtd it up by saying that a y.ar
ai;o, when this matter was arbitrated
by the governors, when they fi und
that we .vere in the wrong, we Blood
by and let the newspapers say tiiai
we bad eaten humble pie. and (lint
we had been defeated. J .y G uld
was def bed, and now he says when
yoi ate in ilte wrong, and when you
ecknowledga tbs! you are in
•he wrong, you iught to take ’.he
e- netqueoctb this time, allowing
x o.-’ty h" view we look. Am I not
l ight ? Hr Hopkins and Mr Mo
D .well said these men were rebels,
-(■ist they ere rebelling - gainst the
r.’e
Mr P wderly-Ho <aid partly in
r< b hi li.
Mr Hopkins— He may hate -aid
■•a bu that s : he idea I got. Y 7 ur
gr-tn ral . ;der .hat you irsued to youi
p r p!< 'ijscoui. tel'anC'd It
M: P .derly—1 did not a Imit tha*
I vi"<s in the wrong at a'l
M H 1 kins— N a, air; I did not ad-
mi'y u were either
M' G u'.d (- Air HopkinsJ -Bbali
I lend tlie le.ter? (It 'erring to a
1- 1 h r on the desk,)
Mi Hopkt a P. shows that those
people feel in regard to it. There is
•io u-e . f riudmg tlie names that are
signtii to the letter. It simply shews
tie w ai Ihey feel.
Mr G old—Supp's you read it.
M. HopEin—This is a letter from
Omaha, eye king of ibe condition ol
t ini»a ou the Union Pacific
M; Hopk it.a read tlie letter: "The
xti.u’ive e tt m'Hee of tlie knights
of lid,or of the Union Pacific, their
ber.dq . ’■'rug being a' Dsnvtr, went
down to K.uriis Guy the other day
ou the wart.ativ.” They were r.rt-
nai ng f ;r a strike evety whoro They
g.t back to Denver ou liie 20 b.
My intormant writes ms that
; uir whole temper had changed.
In co- s erriutiou among them-elvee,
'h-y bitterly denounced -lie kulglUs
or tub .r of Minaouri and Ktusasts
beiDg "wi'hout organization, disci-
pline, b.V:h« or decency.” They add
iia''hi! K '.aas city and Misiouri
Pa.; fi : Birtkea were "without, valid
t i bs,in and in violation of the rub s
- fine order and in viola'ionofPll
kuowii rules of deoeuoy.” Powderly,
tiie>-ay, was right iu going boon;
that h" could not defend the action
<f tht mer; that their
going out was a violattoh of the laws
of the order; that tnuir deuiauds
t-ete ..u ri'genusly urjuat, und that
e> were .yraniool and oppressive
TJieir whole proceedings were iu
r.ckl ss disregard if the rules and
Iswb of the order, aud consequently
the strike was only a bull-headtd
piece of folly, ruinous to the men and
uifious to he order, imder which
hey w to pretending to act.
Mr P wl rly— Tuere is not one
wr rd cf tru h in that thing from the
beginning so the end. Nut one of
ii.-te me. '.La 1 wt-rt at that meeting
verbid (he idea that there was a
strike - They did not g' on the war
i h !., nor did they have biood in their
eye
Mr Hop^biup—They went awsy
w. h pretty nearly'he idea that you
expressed o us.
Mr P w derly —Ti ey wpre of the
idea that they were not to make any
furiher trouble 'They went back
with tlie same mind
Mr Hepkmr—This is a simple
opinion that he expresses about what
hey had iu their minds when Ihey
went there. That is in qdola.ion
minks where they refer to tire oou-
diiii.n of things on our road.
Mr P ,wd rly—"Those things come
Bicoud handed and sometimes get
d-viii-.hly twisted. That man that
y n spoke < f tbai I recognlz d in the
ffl e ( ; eaking of "G Al W”), one of
those reporters spoke of tba‘. He
-iald, "Are those your iuitiale?” He
raid, "Y'is” He fixed all that Btufl
ut. himself.
Mr Go lid—I don’t see any Impro*.
r.' ieiy if I address you hy your title
Everybidy knows that y. u are the
I t hiilent of that order I jldnk you
re ’be r ghi man in the right p ace.
T tat is wtiat I think.
Mr Powderly—That is the tilling
in oi he reporters.
Mr Gou.d—"But exactly what I
;.d -ay I thiughl wa. so plain that
i w s not moiuud-rstnnd opher l.y
y u it mo N w I will rtad (hi :
H M H'X’e. gem ral manager, B
L tt'tj 1 resuming the movement
, Hralns on (he M -s turi Pa.- flu, and
iu the employment of labor in the
revertd depariments of this company,
you will give preference to our late
t-mpioy es, wLether (hey are kuigtits
of labor or not, except that you will
not employ any peison who has in
jured lire compuuy’b property during
.tie late strike, nor will we discharge
any person who has taken service
with the company during the Bhid
strike. We see no objection to arbi
trating any differences between the
employes and the company, paat or
present or future.’
Mr Powderly — Will you explain
to me what that means, then ?
Mr Gould—That means that we
bad already authorized Mr Hoxle—
put the matter in Mr Hwxie’g
hands, fully; that a question of
arbitration which is a matter of
vast Importance, vast details to
arrange; (he principle, the gtett uus
derlying prinoiplf; that so far as the
boa-fi was concerned here, he saw no
objection to that, leaviog that, in
addition, to Mr Hoxie— adding that
to the authority he already had over
ibis subject; increasing it to that ex
tent. That la all this means and
nothing more.
Mr Powderly—Is Mr H>xle cor-
reotly reported when he says he
won’t arbitrate ?
Mr Gould—No, »lr; here are hia
exaot words: "I have your meaasge
in relation to yi ur intervkw with
Mr Powderly, and a's he letter of
inaliuotioiiB, and will ca.ry out tlie
same io my ability ”
Mr P-wderly —The pppp's tell
another sit ry.
Mi Hi-pkins- That whs not touch j
like .lie i p'y tlnif o.itue b. k niter,
your tf-h gram to go ty work
M. P wderly—Hew is that?
Mi H"i kius—Thiti dues not s und
much nk. the retul: of your m s-I
vsg« io the people io g ) to work |
M’ l'u i er—Tlie rep rt ia that Mr
H x 1 (1 .-ly refu-Pd
Mr G-.uld—There h. s got to 1 eooe
m ad to a lair-ii! cor iniraUim, »i til
its vast lannfic.itiuUN, au.t there I.as .
got to lie order ai d deecii 1 oe We
nave got ilie lives of (h • people a. d !
their properly in our ii.iuds and w
.le respui,slide for their safety. We
o* ve goi io have a beau; y< u rec..g-
i. /. - mat.
M Turner—Certainly
Mr Gould—There lias g d to tie or
gan /, in.
Mr Turner— I am only sp akingof
tt.e reports iu toe papers
Mr U uld—My rule lias always
been that il a mar. performs hisdmy
oy the com. ary, what be does on* --f
school I i’»ve nothlug to do with, If
tie is at’ O id Fe.low, or i» Ma-on,or a
Knight of Labor, or a broi ht riiood,
,'i anything, I have nothing o do
with that. I am at ihe head f --. cor
poration, and vie emp’oy laborers to
uerferm ‘heir reqili-i-e part in that
c irpoiuiti.u, aud 1 don’t want to in
quire whether a man h i n gs to one
orgmiz -I n or another That is his
pnvili god right, and I don’t want to
interfere with i'-. When the hoard
puls this letierin Mr Hoxi ’s hards he
b-entiles ilia party to d. al w. h, and
on the question of arbitration, as a
principle, I don’t think -h-re is any
body that will go farther than J
would. I consider that it ia a sub
ject that (>ught to he cart- ! ul!y can*
sidered to protect the rights of bo h
the carte nation and :ha employes,
and the public rights which over ride
the whole. It is the public duty of a
corporation anil every individual
member of it, of a railroad corpora
tion, to operate tt.e road fur a public
use. It is the duty of all the em
ployes alike iu tha 1 respect, from'.he
president down T uy rdolbe them-
-elves, so to speak, wiiu public duties.
It is unlike the employes of manu
facturing companies, or any private
organiza Ions A railroad is a thor-
. ughfare, a public organization, and
it has contract nudes to the state and
to the publiu, and from tt.e [ resident
down to the lowest employe, when
they take service with the railroad
they assume their share of these
public duties. That is mv view, and
uny law or act that can begot up that
w uld si cure to your people, u> the
employe, :o labor, the right of arb:-
ration and an equal r glu to the em
ployes, I am fir. 1 wants to be
c-urefully prepan d — sometniug thtt
would work practical r .-Mil's To tha:
ex'ent I 'hii k we u-e greed.
Mr McDowell —Have yon had a
chance 'r> lead the bill? (R-'erring
t i tin. O N. ih arbi ration n.lt.
AH G uld - I h v'-had a chance *o
lead me hi!: und I or. a Lid.gram
from Judge D 'bar that it was a •mb-'
j:-ci of very great importai.es, -w <1
that he should l.ka to have it caic-
fully considered.
Mr AIcD.iwell—You showed that,
I think, yemerduy, and he was to be
here tbi- moru'tig ?
Al Giuld—Yte; now I am pr •
rated to eay, and I u derstood Mr
1' iwt'erly to approve of that telegram
to Mr H-xie. AI. H x!e is pr ice I-
irg'o carry lhat rut a d will pro
ceed— I shall not charge it -to carry
it ou id good faith, ur.d I have not
heai d a word from him beyond tha
(pointing to tt.e dispatch on de-k)
und he says, "I have receiv'd youi
message of instructions and i will
preo ei to cutty ilie same i ut to the
best of my aPiiny ”
Mr Powderly—Well, you t-uy you
ate willing to arbitrate Ali IT x > ie
reported in lire papers a no 1 being
willing to arbitrate, and wr n’:—most
emphatically says tie won’t, b“
says to you thtu lie wi.l. J ui\ tee
liow we cau gel io ..Ik the mutter
o -er at a’l.
Mr Gould H h>.s not soid so.
Mr Powderly—If be has su'd 'hit
he will, how car we reach bin ? How
eau we get io him, and what e . . w
do to atop this tiling rig'.f r I -1 v. ? I
won’tjdo to -ay lam willing ! o»rt)i.
rate if I don’t arbitrate. It MrHtx't-
says he won’t arbitrate i.f er you say
you tire willing, what can wed'?
Mr G uld—"I iiave heard no hing
from Air H .xie, i xctpting he ..ays lie
has received that telegram, ami tie is
proceeding to carry it oui to ihe best
of his ability. I have nothing far
ther. He has given me uc. views on
the question of arbitration. Every
body knows my views, that I have
alwayB been iu favor of it. in all our
railroad meetings. I have always
advocated arbitration iu ail our
southwestern roads, over arid over
again.” *
Mr Hopkins—“We did arbitrate
this very thing.”
Air Giuld—This very question
was arbitruled a year ago ami the
governors decided s^alnet us I wan
arbitrated here since thi- strike and
the governors found Mr t~; s hat it
isnonew principle. L : us get the
report of the gi.vtrnor-. It would
bear right ou th.s question, because
it shows that this question hi-1 been
arbitrated—the qu .-stion of this
strike,
Mr Bailey—Who selected the ar-*
bitrators?
Mr G ;uid—They were aclected by
the knights of Lb >r, a year ago and
by the Missouri Pacific officers, I
th'nk.
Mi Bailey—In this last cast?
Mr Gould—I think they were
culled In by the kuigb'B themselves.
Mr Bumervllle—“It was the same
committee ”
MrO mid 'Thes»mecoramitte. ? '
Mr 8 uuerviile—"TtiR same com
miftce that ha- pass d on iht other "
Mr G >uld—"I bellev - that your or
ganization would Hint d n.uoh H'rong.
-r if when you are wrong, wh -ti any
I part of your orgHtiiza ion ia wrong,
| you would j Ht frank-.y I. M tin in so
I That Is the way to held d s pline.”
j Mr B .'.ley-"I dont think we imve
I ever failed in telling them no It i
I is proved to up that 'hey were
I wrong, let uk urhitra'.u tide qu -dlon
I io "ce wiiether they are wtoug nr
| not.”
M■• G ul l-Till" strike was mad-
| Lcnti-e toe r. cc vern rt tiie Texm-
j Pag,tin discharg'd a mi . T n-e
whb i ever a c inplaint < r a nr-tis
■hat we had dune anything O L.e
conlrsry. they said w- had not
Tney had m. e .use aga.net us
Mr Mi D .well -The practical quet
'inn rigli' tea seems to be,
Guild ex.uee-ea himself in it"
h rung, st way »h a believer iu and In
favor of arbi'rati >.'J, Mr P wdeily
asks fi.-r a-i t train.n and all sgrte v.
arbitrate N -w to have a'Ui ra
tion of Mr H x e t;> to
point out three uomipe'S, at d ttiese
gentlempri are") gi mue sod c|um
it up. iHtiytlirt all Iriq criujt thing
»e ms to ht* that tney ate ordered to
go to work and the men me 'o go P
work, and all 'tie ques'lnna sellled
bv arbitration. I? there meat y after
wards—after they are at w ok—ru’d
to have that done, if this law only
was a law, you would have it legal
under the law Mi P iwd-rly Ih a very
sick n.au at.d he wants to go away
M' G uld—I say m that snbjeii;
that I am in fiver of arhitrat'o.: a^a
p-lDcIple of s ’’lenient of wrt>"gs or
claiu s be wieu individuals. It is
really wba :he law provides. Our
law here provides a short method 1
arbitration for differences It is n d
anylbieg now. I' is a short way o!
[c iingata rosult, and I atn in favor
of that as h principle, and I t. Id Air
Hoxie, who 1“ the great head of- tins
corporation, who has this wbo'e ub
j-ctund r till control, that so fur as
tlie board of directors are concerned
here, they s-e no obj c’lon to arbi
tration between the employ saud 'he
company Now, this arbitra loo, a I
understand It, should b bn! wetu en
individiial and ihe company. We
have gut 15 000 employes, nn I what I
K«i.i h.-re applied toevery one of these
15 000 employes, thai if they have
r.oy difihrene-’S wiih ihe Missouri
Pacific company, 'ha' ind'v d ml, b”
tiiere oneora hundred, so far as the
huard are couc-rned, we_ar« ready fo
arbitrate (hose difTarenoss wif.li those
men.
Mr MoD well —1 don’l sen lhat you
d.fi ir ui anything Id that whether
the arbltr .tlou between the emuloyes
and tlie ruilmal or be’w.eu the
iitiighlK of labor and 'he railroad; do
y u, Mr P .wderiv ?
Mr P - < derly-N >
Mr AlcD>well«i Only in the tro I od
of -ie uppointinen: f.irbi ratoi.--
AH Gould -Thi-- very bill r v'd -n
for individual arbitration Tn- i .1
voluul cannot merge his rights, U,-
r ghu are as ail iudivitlu He can
not merge them ft ba> got to bu
passed .n as an individual
Mr Hopkins— Y iu ougiit (o reooT
lee in ihe first place it is a very ini-
oortaut thing, I think, that toevery
moment there was a shadow > ven of
a.'iiffl 'ulty that came tip be' ween the
K . qu.u ul Luih'-r, that We support’d
were our friends, and this railroad
oumparty; that instead a telegram
was sent from her« saying: "W are
old by the employes that they have
no grievances, are s riking not ou i o
ceuotol a g r ievai.ceof tiieirown, t.u'
by an order IribUud hy an organ z i i-o
ssyii g ‘you must strike wheth-r
you want to or not,’” anil
we said now if there is
any grievances, come and talk i'
over, and Hee if you could fix II up.”
A few days af er tin*! w« go 1 au ins
-wei' |o that message and three weeks
afer ‘.hat —i f or our men had be n,
wo or th e of them, 1* jured— at
•ur.pted to kill th'.m. and ir ju; -d
'Ik at very badly—our bridgfs hav-
toe buried, our cure have b -n
sma ll rl up, our I rc'-m - i vi-s dt>
HTfiye-J and our buelrose i re 1 y muc’
ru'ned—then Mr Powd -r y mur- ih
i■ ere aud says, "I would Ilk • io add
' a’e.”
Mr Bailey—Well, T don’t think ii
is any use for u» tn be hair-splitting
ar rl cross-firing. W<* have made our
i.' tuita ioos I think the nr-x'
'hing to do is to say, “A r e you will
ing to make yours,” or dues it end
right iie'e ? We have (old wba’ v e
have dont and what we are villi: g
to do. We want to settle. Wo want
'o have everything d ne for the pru
de: inn of the cent pan y’s property
and the protection of our people.
Mr McDowell—Mr Gould, you
were goiDg to read that
Mr Gould—Let him read first the
report of the governors.
Mr McD'well—I don’t think I
would. Erery one here has seen it
Air G »uld—Mr Powderly said he
hud not seen it.
M- McD'well—I took the paper
down there and he had it before him
Mr Gould—I seems to me an im
portant matter to show that 'hese
men have been over this aud what
their verdict ia.
Mi AIcD .well—It Is settled.
Mr G/uld—Let us see what they
say
Mr George J G .uld—This is the
letter of Gjv M trmaduke and G jv
M .rtin (reading): “After careful
investigation we are unable to see
wherein the Missouri Paoiflo railroad
company have violated the terms
and conditions of the agreement
mads on the 15 b of March, 1885
touching its employes,” etc.
Mr Gould—N >w that Is tno report of
the two govern rs.
Mr Gtn J Gould — To whloh Mr
U xIp rep.leil - bat be w uild do It, ex-
oepitiip- slone the people win? hurl vlo
la'ed 'he rw of thv r--ntn--, a-id that wp
would - o dlHObarco m n whom we
r a ‘ r ranlovet! nnoe i bo «!r !ko
M G u*'i — I n ub-rs -od you Io e >v
ou Hot.day Al Puwdarlv, it a no fiNl
as We fur 1 '-o-ed you - iis ii .ii-solth e°
ha: bs-l I jured onr properly, 'be'
v il w>u d one that I boy weroexpoll-
e I.
Mr Piwderiy — I sr-id 'hat, nor organ
IZB'.ton a’wi'VB M ! when e tnaovio ated
' lie inw or o'm "'t" c'i nil no of vto
letio«, a>iii il .nev were foui.d g-.illiy
of guv n -iduo:, ih.it was t ot proper we
Hhott'd pr - e el ag.l r .Hi. (hea-; - i 1
-i-v now 'f : o me-’ hnw b n e yui 11 y r f
ilOHin. 1 g proper y, burning bridges
r Biiylring of tli.it kb d, J i t hb bo m
a wo Hi - I 'l-fi. d 'bo', -h-y r’l i i’
j w Bosoo'i vi i wb pat Hu m out rif
beorgun z l"ii Wb ctnnn, pa-don
.1 vl.r.Ov bit (i.'PS BUV bl-g of Iba
liin.t \V ev r »-i ve. Wo hive nit
•urselV H oo reoont in H. I. u i, We
took tbe oli.tr.wr array irotn an aascui
b’.y brie use of h ir ..('Is
Mr Hoe- — S oposo wo Bo'eoi n imi*
mi ties 'tom tho employ, u . u ; tiers,
v. .il vo'i notify Mr -t x Iu oicot them
and nr t , o ,l.e .lia* ', ?
Mr P.iwdpv'y — To • > 1 1' h words if onr
0 Kimt-’eo, I :.ba I o-ir.i wi.l go out here
u>t l Mr L! x - •■■mot ;-. «n ar’il re. on T
Mi U u 1 W i ,’hi’ I i .n’t know
Mr Po'd.ry 1 will submi' any
rr.a'.trrio’ ui. Ho hue got the fill! oon
rot of Uis »*s I writs you I leal in
his hoi d-, a-al in B.l.li ion theqn n ton
of arbUrs l-t. in in his hands, so - b«' he
om-> ir , whole thing now. I have m-
o' Joe l-.n to aak Mr Lioxlo any point
:n-»- mi went, mo '«
Mr vii li 'vo'I— Y o nre in telegraph
er norn no nation with b'm righ li re
a-en'i i-o- 7
Mr Gouid-Tbe wires »re down to
day Ttnro is ii tremendou- aLoriu.we
n «vo heard no* hi eg fr >,i\ the wis' 'o
day yet. (-r M U-iorgc Gouhl) How
i.ro the wire. ?
Mr Go > G u'.d—Tire wiren nre in
irouble between herb und Pi is urg.
Mi Q ,u J TI. ro h a ;or ible sterna
vug uk belwttiu lreru slid lui. wusb, bu-
1 o-io »Hk (dm to do it during tie day,
mil loin ge. his views ou tha q .-s
tton,
Mr Bay*—Wall, the m i ter balug
placed in (lie IihiuIk of Mr H xlo, ft Ih
l-mced, of .lourne, lu his bauds bv tho
rnneea'of loo Uireolors hern timid
not the dlreetore say to Mr H xie to
moot Mm board out there, or meet the
oommiuee, i i or.! r to ir g toil nut-
inr lo a Bettlomon T 0 »j du’t h-i obey
ths'T
Mr Gould Tbs’BO’lnn of 'be board
wa- liken vfldle I ww awav I h d
nn UP.<’eralan'Uog -»( Is M V w er'.y
1 Ht A Pilin' 'n*'. if ' "«'!■ wan any q iea-
i| ,n came up ut d 11 vouo'i .ha thorn
should be UoH’rlk,, ha: M> P.vlnr'r
w u'd c mo r'gli‘ to mo and we won!rl
'n'k K down nnd mlm. U
M. P.iwderly—Thai, b « w»-nr tbt'
1 a Dr nut clear noon N w, yoo iron
t'enieo w-.,e present f > - >u , m m-
te rabm' an agrenme- T L 1 ,>n>t nn*
,l< rBl^nd [‘ < 'inrneghly
Mr G o-go G u cl Mr Hrx'e h:»B
am-/ -.aid lathe was w.iiing n meit.
a oi.moQl tee of aav .inip'oyes. aesald
th -r whi'.'- you w ro away.
Mr Gou d I -(id n't know about
■‘at I tiavo hon a wav an a i hsyg yot
rn.i(d unya'.tee'.ion to ills -hing, t dll
no' even know loa . she gova-nor* bad
orb' late l i.ho van' or u,iLil Sun toy. I
happened >o take II up j.nl bof .ro you
on me in and read l I dido", know
tl.ar thev hul p-i- -ed m It a', u'l
Mr Ha ea—Y m are awnro that Mr
FToxie reinsert to nonet our oh'cf under
hi* T
Mr Powderly—He refused to meet
mo ns a olt'z o He refused to meet
i.'B own emp.oyea
Mr Hopkins - H" dirt7
Mr Powd nriy—H.i does. Tooy told
ueempba :c.liy that they went to see
Mm, ,»od he refuBorl adnuit'anoe I
-bl-ik iri'i wld hrvo to lnvo.s:ig»te Mr
H x*-. L would ud vise it. 1 think you
will fi : i oa', it wi 1 d . von goo -
MrSi.ub. villa - i I * v eu’t y ou g ■». Mr
't x ' a‘rer ion
Mr P wder'y—Mr Hox e may say
•hat a umri w lio g' e np on a pule and
'ben gri'isn* it »)l the way dawn after
'urn and thru invites you up, h iw are
- ou to go' u i ?
Mr 8 mcrvlMe—Y ’U «re doiny now
w 1 .,-, you ■ uld a !• w m ..uBnia ago
' .ould not ()■■ liuiir—:u. ; ki g iiowbo-i
pr-r 'aik Mr ti xl bos not sail tha'
:o yon or Ri.yb ..iy cdee.
Mr H*ys -‘-Bu'. the men wh » wer
cm ploys* do not stildo by it, 'he organ-
z i. Ion Is not word) anything.
, Mr MoUoweit - he boHt guarantee in
tbe wot Id Ih that they go right to work.
Mr H- morvlllc —Hut that le not It.
Win tbo> tunic, by the dooisiot ?
[Che oouleie.uio oontl-iuea at great
tn g: ti and in its orurhe Mr Guuld aug-
gi-ets that an arbi ra’ion bill bo drawn
up satisfactory to boil) parlio*, and
■ ha- I's pr vIbIo. e bo legmd .'ailiiw
wh''lb, r eiv’gr, sa pas«6H it or not. A
tobgiatn is al-o re'-elvnd fr nu Mr
H xlo, <\>mnr.ltlh g b in ti ft-, arbilra-
H.v wlicrtv.ir lusio iuu be shown.
Biifiimont gr.’Und for It Tbe report
nr tbe remainder of th o ufere .0° oor-
aina no uiuoo ra-'Pii-.iou anil ia so
voiumtubu i ib.it i. is ,.ut ui -Lie q tea-
,.inn ti put) ic-U tt in del UI. T.iea ove
g'V ■ i h pnleo' id'a of the pt.st'tor-sof
tbuo/ii c-.-dl.iK P» ties. Bj:h pr i isa to
no iu lavor of arbi ration, bu: ih'y
,i i-ie|[M)i ab..u whs’ 1 a | im’ oanse for
-.u<•;i a ciiiTPe, and ike oonfovenoe
p ;> t-i e r/.n'ti--’ Tn(»-i" 'ers'ao in-r, —
Niu t liurr n 3 3J a. m J
LABOR TROUBLES.
Tie- Sltu.cOoii *u cl.a lUlUomli- * h'B
Kum. li* U-.iw i,u Wo
Mr:
-lie-.’ ■
p .per;
m • r v 11
' ii : k v
‘ «
"B it v n are rn«-kl «
' h: 'Ug/i tlio no /fa
Mr P, w 1 r'y--*Th»y wore ou
■ !.e -e ”
Mr Gi'ild— ‘Ii> you nay that M
H- x'e hi-.a r-f'u ed tu see a coiximit'ee
of y nr m-'-i ?"
M. P wder'y—"That; *ls what they
c ulm ”
Mr G iald ('.-■ Gao 1 g* J Gouid) --"Just
er.ake a dlapa'ch ard lurk him that
q-v sdoo ”
Mr M -I)* v'l”—Aa I uederitaud It,
the men have ooi.fi le ion In the egrt.e
menl. to arbllra e. or aoy r.gre. rneot to
arbl'rs’e msrtn lore They bs»e no>
ouDflleuco iu nn ag-e 1 merit not au
agreome t to srbtlra'.e, but on ap
proval of srbltra'luh as a general prin
ciple referred to Mr Hoxle there
Mr Powde-iy —There Is a inleunder-
Btsurtl’ g to s me plpecs b | around,
Mr Guild to Mr Goo J Gjuld— Can
- on whistle np stalra aud use If Judge
D 1 Ion la b ok to-devT
Mr G J Guild—Ys;Jdo you want
him down If he ieT
MrG.it 1-J Y a Now, another thing.
Thequ'-stb n ol arbitration. There are
two par ies to an arbitration. If wo are
going to arbitrate we should know
trorn the men wbeiber they wanted an
arbilra.or and whether they would
submi' to and abide by arbitration.
Mr Have*—K' iui your employee?
Mi G iu d— 1 Tb«re will have to be »n
ogreomeut by the oimpaoy and by
each imp' 'ye, n ' her wise it would be
ol no bin ing ' 1T-Ct.
Mr Hives-V/e aay the etmpl-yus
Wl'l ar tilt rate *nd are wililug to give
an agrecmc it to '.hat (<7<ot.
Mr Gon'd—(Jan you present evidence
to that eff ir T
Mr Hayn—W» can aland upon pnb'lo
opinleu i" regard to that point. If lie
IprrHat to Fmn&tr
Prill,ADKL.i'itiA Ap'il 15 -Grand
Music r W'likmn-i L’ wderly hos to
day issu'd a circular lo all members
o- ihe lv lghls of Labor, app-alitig to
;! onr '■ contribu e ev, ry dollar lliey
ca,i hi,ere to ir. Ip carry ou the tdriko
in Hi L uis i.ud viciiiliy and ou the
h u.h/esiern ruilroud™.
money kok the strikers.
St L uis April 15 Bu.ee iho e.r-
viva ut u.e genera! committee con-
Iributio is now runuiug up to thoun-
aiida of dollaie h .ve been received
tvery day uy tlurn f r Hie la-u week,
They have averaged over a day.
All this nuu ry lia-' liceu aeut out to
heels / bu ed among the strikers at
every point on the cysteur wliere it
iv needed, aud It has been suffirieilt
l„ meet all denrau i s s-r far without
calling on (ire reserve fund of the
r ider or order rig an aaievimeiu, hut
p.wdc-rh’s liiteitiious for a call
fir con ritiution* lu-e'H *»■ i’lc theaii-
pr v*l ol tir.i board, b cause it will
prov to lie public that the s'.riko
I,as the eodorsem' nt n( the order in
genera!. The hi >m y Rf'" dire- t!y to
the Htrikei’s 'hrougli their a setnblie®.
'Ihe rout unc. board of si g!e men are
paid, and men with families are paid
what ti ej med f>r clothing, rent
and groceries. The money is fur-
nteU.-d them directly in sum. cases,
a,id iu others their biiiii are
paid, Alru wlio are riot k iightu
I uejor are helped iu the so mu way.
f ioak a no ditter-uce wl o iitr or
not iii y are ki.igbta of labor, if they
are out. Th- knigdle have plenty
of money so k- ep all of the msu wiio
will iielp in the strike Mure than
ihi-, they in end to p» men for not
work ug wrio are i-ow a*, work, and
who have- Pteu lorcsd to go tn work
Blue- i lie Hi tike begin, and who not
b iug K .util s "I i .b.-c, til ug 1 1 tiiat
<*;■ c. -u d u-.t depend ou :bc knights
for tc/UH.aocG
ANOTHER UI 0 STRIKE.
Alll/vVAUKEli, Apr.l 15 -The
iargrtti striKe ever known iu AI:|-
*aukoe i.at, beau inaugurated by tho
strop tnil'-r-d uui m. I. iu r ss rted
(bat over 4Ul)(I operatives are afiect-
«d, aliir ugn a large minority of
lit esc nave no interest iu lire uinke
aud are. id fac', opposed to i'« Tiro
H.rike ia io stc.iio Ihe adoptiou of the-
new scale of prices. Ad the whole
sale is ttbliulnm>u'e in (he city art.
v/ilea'.o.i by : he ttnku. Oulsi ie of tho
lununeia of the «.h ip tabors’ union
is a lone -uuibt of single bands,
msu and women, who (/.fe - wflrk di~
r-C' Il'UUl the whole ale de-heed TuiS
class, it lb entitle uecJ, make on an
aveiage m i e uiuuey tha.i the
ah ji w. rk rs, and is tirerefure,
riot in sympa'by v.i h the strike.
I'hey li ve ad q li work, liowcver,
'r-.rn ; ar <-f vml-nce on :be part ut
tu- stuk- rs Tut-re ei t m-, s far »«
cai I.* 'e ir--.nl by tuieiviewa with
•a I oit’ui- ilea!'"”, no likelihood of
c ,y O'.iirp'o'i::b., and after ineusuai
• xiiih r.v. o m.d : xcimmeul at the
n.ieptiou of u s.r k -, both sider wili
hi tut- d w to a a ubbo.-ii teat uf
which io the airougest. A j.roiniueut
wh ifbuit cle-i.er mil, ui upcukiiig of
:..e mw satie, that ihe <1< akrs could
cut Uc h ir w .ili, s>>id il tail to
•n made up, and icfur paying
all (‘xp-nsoH, inclu Img ex
press cha'g u, the o wt would
be lees lb.au to lit.ve it made under
1 he new scale of pru er The cutlers
arc J'i dug forces wt h the tailors to
st cure a reduc(on of hours with a
ontinuiiuce of the pres.ut wuges.
B I'ipcs r< igus urr.img the wholesale
Hires, ur rl die (ill e force ia e»clt
e-tabhoUtnent haa uolhing L ido. T e
Oaiuage to the olnthing tiade by tho
strike, if it is lung continued, will, it,
is tdleged, be ooneiderable, as Mil
waukee iB tho largest ciolhiug manu
facturing centre iu the west, uutside
of Cuicago.
A GENERAL TIE CE.
Baltimore, Mu, April 15 —At
noon lo-day the officers of the
Krrights of Labor or Jert’d a tyiug
up of all cars of the Union, People’s
ami Central companies, and the work
was rl ou- as rapidly as ibe cars reach"
ed their htables. The police author!"
tii s vore a once uotifled and forces
were feat to all tlie ntabies to pro*
ltd tne property of the CJiupa-,
nies and auy persons who decided
to accept employment. These in
clude ail the lines of the city, known
as "bob-taUs,” and leavs* but the
lines of two cuuipaoiss running. No
demonstration of violence has yet
b-en made. .Thu entire polios force,
nearly seven hundred men, is on duty
and auy attempt at violence will he
promptly suppressed.