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picketed, and when the fight comes not
ono of them would ever get out of this
town alive. We dont intend they shall
ever get outof the country. But I want
it distinetly understood’that I am op
posed to any war, and will only fight in
self-defense, If the militia atiack wus,
we will resist to the last, and if necessa
-Iy, I think T could raise forty thousand
men in five days, ready for the field.”
“Do you think, General, that Kuklux
have been any benefit to the State !”
" #No doubt of it. Since its orgaviza
fion the Leagues have quit killing and
murdering our people. There were some
foolish young men who putmasKs on thcir
faces and rode over the eountry, frighten
ing negroes; but orders have been issued
to stop that, and it has ceased. You
may say further, that three members of
the Kuklux have been court-martialed
and shot for violations of the orders not
to disturb or molest the people.”
* “Are you a member of the Kuklux,
Qeneral 1”
" “I'am not; but am in sympathy and
will co-operate with them. I know
they are charged with many crimes that
they are not guilty of. A case in point
is t{e killing of Bierfield, at Frankrin a
few days ago. I sent a man up there es
pecially to investigate the case, and re
port to me, I have his letter here now in
which ho states that they had nothing to
do with it as an organization.” ‘
~ “What do you think of negro suf
frage 1"
. %I am opposed to it under any and all
circumstances; and in our convention
quged our rarty not to commit them- '
selves at all upon the subject. If the
negroes vote to enfranchise us, I do notl
think I would faver disfranchisment.—
We will stand by those who help us.—
And here I want you to understand dis
tinctly, I am not an enemy to the negro,
We want him here among us; he is the
enly laboring class we have, and more
than that I would sooner trust him than
the white scalawag or carpet-bagger.—
When I entered the army I took forty
seven negroes into the army with me,
and forty-five of them were surrendered
with me. I said to them at the start:
‘This fight is against slavery ; if we lose
it, yoa will be made free; if we whip
the fight, and you stay with me and be
good boys, I will set you free. In either
ease ‘{ou will be free’ Those boys
stayed with me, drove my teams, and
better Confederates did not live.”
“Do you think the Kuklux will try
to intimidate the negroes at the elec
tion 1"
~ “I do not think they will. Why, I
made a speech at Brownsville the other
day, and while there a Lieutenant, who
served with me, came to me and inform
ed me that a band of radicals had been
going through the courtry claiming to
be Kuklux and disarming the negroes
and then selling their arms. I told him
to have the parties arrested.”
“What do you think is the effect of
the amnesty granted to your people ¥’
“] believe that the amnesty restored
all the rights to the people, full and com
plete. I donot think the Federal Gov
ernment has the right to disfranchise
any man, but I believe that the Legis
latures of the States have. Tho objec
tion that I have to the disfranchisement
in Tennessce is, that the Legislature
which enacted the law, had no Constitu
tional existence, and the law, in itself, is
anullity, Still I would respect it until
changed by law; but there is & limit
beyond which men cannot be driven,
and I am ready to die sooner than sacri
fice my honor. This thing must have
an end, and it is now about time for that
end to come,”
“What do you think of Gen. Grant t”
I asked.
“I regard him as a great military
commander, a good man, honest and lib
eral, and if eiected will, I hope and be
lieve, execute the law honestly and
faithfully. And, by the way, a report
has been published in some of the pa
pars, stating that while General Grant
and lady were at Corinth, in 1862, they
took and carried off, furniture and other
‘{)roperty. I here brand the author as a
iar. I was at Corinth only a short
time ago, and I personally investigeted
the whole matter, talked with the people
with whom he and his lady lived while
there, and they say that their conduct
was every thing that could have been
expected of a gentleman and lady, and
deserving the highest praise. lam op
posed to General Grant in every thing, ‘
but I would do him justice.”
The foregoing is the principal part of
my conversation, and I leave the reader
to form his own opinions as to what
General Forrest means to do. I think
that he has been so plain in his talk that
he cannot be misunderstood.
Menpuis, TENN., Aug. 29, 1868, |
After leaving General Forrest’s office
yesterday, I met Mr. Glass, editor of
the Trenton (Tennessee) Gazette, who
accompanied me to tic office of Harris
& Pillow, by whom I was courteously
received. llaving had some friendly
acquaintance with Gen. Pillow, I laugh
ing remarked as we shook hands: “That
I had come in to get his political opin
ions for publication, that the public gen
erally might know where to find him.”
«Well,” said he, ““if you can take an
old, deuf work horse and force from him
’any labor, you may be able to get from
me some expressions of political’ opin
jonn". s & e ;
“Why, General, I hope you entertain
no Opin‘i.aj upon public matters which
‘you wouldwish to conceal ¥’
k “None in the world, sir; but at this
time I do not consider it cither good pol
icy or a part of my duty to take any
public part in political matters, and I
am decidedly averse in my feelings to
newspaper notoriety.” ’
~ “But, sir, Tenncssce seemsto be in a
‘very unsettled condition,.and the peo
ple of the North are anxious to know the
scntiments of your people, and especial
ly of the representative men of the
State; whether a conflict will ensue;
and if it does, what your course, ¢s lead
ers among your people, will be.”
“First, then, 1 donot claim to be a’
representative man. I haye taken no
part in political matters since the close
of the war; have not wriiten a letter on
the subject or made a speech, although
frequently invited to do so. Your peo
ple up North do not understand the very
peculiar condition of affairs in Tennes
see, and, therefore, any expression from
men who were identified with the rebel
lion is liable to be misunderstood, even
by the best meaning people; aud when
they are taken in connection with the
violyent and foolish speeches of some of
our people, we are looked upon as very
bad fellows. lor myself I desire and
\intcnd to live in this country, and I de
'sire to live in peace. I am willing to
sacrifice every thing, save honor to
live in peace and order. But T believe
in war in self-defense and in defense of
honor. From a life long acquaintance
with the people of Tennessee, I believo
they think and feel as I do. 1 regard
the present State government as uncon
stitutional, and it certainly is odious to
the people, and bitterly oppressive and
proscriptive; yetlam willing to submit
for a time to the laws, but not to per
sonal wrongs. Our Southern people
will not resist any thing but outrages.
If the militia are called out, they will be
men who cannot, or will not make a liv
ing at any kind of labor, and accept the
thirteen dollars per month because it will
be easily gotten. With muskets in their
hands, and under the present law, which
prohibits their indictment for any act
done under orders of their officers, and
upon Governor Brownlow’s proclama
tion authorizing them to shoot down the
Kuklux wherever they find them, they
will only have to call a man Kaklux to
have the authority of law to kill; and
this will be the consequence of their be
ing called out. When this occurs—
when these fellows commence their out
rages—they will be resisted, and resist
ed bitterly, although I think these
troubles will be confined in the localities
in which the outrages are committed,
and upon the persons perpetrating them.
Ilf Federal troops were stationed
throughout the country, there would be
no trouble ; their officers are gentlemen,
from Gen. Grant or Thomas, down; so
far as I can judge them.
“The State government is oppressive,
and lam not willing to submic to the
state of affairs if it continue in the fu
ture. If the people had known that this
fate awaited them, they would not have
surrendered. Their homes are burned,
their women ravished, the men assassin
ated, and when any of the guilty parties
arc sentenced to the penitentiary they
are at once pardoned by Gov. Brown
low. This state of things cannot last
and the peace of the country continue.”
“General, what are your views on
the subject of negro suffrage ¥’
“I am opposed to it, and would be in
favor of disfranchising them at once. 1
would give them the privilege if they
were found, after a time, to be intelliv-‘
gent and worthy of it. I believe in giv
ing to the negro all personal and civil
rights, and protecting him in them.”
“(teneral, was you what is called an
orginal secessionist ” I asked.
“I was not, sir. I opposed secession,
and purely upon the ground that Iloved
the Government. I made speeches
against secession, and did all I could to
avert the struggle, but when it came 1
\took the side of my people, and I do not
'regret it. At this time I can not say
that I love the Government as I once
did, but ifit were in danger, I would
give to its aid any ability 1 may pos
sess.”’ st oA BNI Bl i
Governor Harris I found to be one of
the most entertaining and captivating
gentlemen I bave met in a great while.
In stature he is a little over the medium
size, is fifty years of age, has dark
brown hair, considerably bald, a beauti
ful keen black eye, rather a handsome
face, somewhat disfigured by a stiff
mustache, but almost always wearing a
pleasant smile.
I informed him of the object of my
visit, and was somewhat astonished to
hear him reply that he held no political
tenets. |
“But it is not possible, Governor, that
you have no interest in the condition of
social and political affairs ¥”
“Qh, yes, I feel adeep interest in
these matters; but my position is that of l
a spectator merely of the affairs of the
State. I think if the State Government
would pursue a paciiic, tolerant course,
that quiet and order would at once be ‘
restored.”
. “What do you think will be the result
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of calling out the militia under. the bill
now before the Legislature !’
“I very much fear the result if the
Governor should think proper to eall
out his troofs, for while thc people de
sire peace, I think: many pertonal con
flicts will result, but hope that it will not
become general. I have counselled my
friends to forbearance in every thing to
ward the Statc authorities.”
““What do you think of the Kuklux,
Governor 1”
“If there is such a thing in the world
as a Kuklux, I have never seen him.”
“What do you think would be the
proper policy for the Government to
pursue to settle our troubles ?”
“I believe that if all the people were
enfranchised, the troubles would, in a
great degree, be allayed, but I do not
believe that perfect harmony will be re
stored until the franchise is extended.
Under present legislation, the intelli
‘gence of the State is disfranchised, and
the power traneferred to the ignorance
and dregs of society. The people will
never rest under the mismanagement
and exorbitant taxation which is being
‘imposed upon them, but they hope for
relief through legislation.”
Throughout the whele conversation
the Governor seemed reserved, and de
sirous of avoiding any expression that
might look like a desire to participate in
politics ; yet he secined to fear the re
sult if State troops arc called out.
I nextvisited Hon. J. M. Tomeny,
United States Marshal. He informed
me that he never had the least difficulty
in exccuting any process from the courts.
He does not fear any trouble if the mil
itia are not called into the field ; bat if
they are, their pressence would be made
a pretext forafight. The United States
troops never had any difficulty with any
of the people. If the militia should be
sent to Memphis, a fight will be inevita
' ble. but it would be local.
I asked him if he thought the rebels
would make any attempt to intimidate
negroes 8o as to control their votes.
ITe said he did not think they would ;
that it scemed to be the policy of the
Democrats to try to win the negro, that
such had been their policy in Mississip
pi, and they had succeeded upon it.
Mr. Tomeny is a Republican, and is
participating in the canvass on the
Grant platform.
I also met at the same place Colonel
Bingham, late editor of the DBulletin,
when it was a Democratic paper, and
Captain J. R. Alexander, of Tipton
County, who served throagh the war
with Forrest. Colonel DBingham said
to me: 3
“We will not tie up the hands of our
Northern friends by resisting anything,
but we will charge up our griecvances
against these radicals until after the elec
tion, and then we will give them hell.”
I told Captain Alexander what Gen
eral Forrest had said to me. He seem
ed astonished, and answered me by
saying “that if General Forrest should
come up into Tipton County, he might
blow his bugle for three months, and he
would not get ten men ; that he had fol
lowed him through the war, but he would
not tollow him or any other man into a
ticht against the State or General Gov
ernment, or any of its laws.”
In these conversations I bave given
the names of the gentlemen with whom
I have talkedin order that the reader
may understand that they are genuine.
I informed each of these gentlemen that
I would publish their opinions as ex
pressed, and I believe each of them to
have been candid.
LEGISLATIVE.
On the 12th the resolution declaring
negroes ineligible to office was under
discussion in the Senate and upon the
vote being taken, the negro Senators
were relieved by a vote of 24 to 11. #
Radiealism is somewhat astounded :P
the results of radical reconstfiction® in
Georgia. They find that the. world
moves, and alas, for them, sometimes in
reverse of their own motion. |
In the House on the 14th,"nin'.fl__fe
Senate very little matter of general in
‘terest transpired. The Senate Rcfiej
}bill was made the special order by th¢
[ House for Thursday morning. Tg
Jury System, adopted, or likely to
adopted, will be more rigid with refer
ence to capacity and character, and will
‘be confined to the white people.
~ On the 15th the time of the House
was consumed in the [discussion of the
report of the Committee declaring Fyall
a negro ineligible. The vote was 90 to
& The Convention at Kingston of
the 7th Congressional District adjourn
ed, as we stated, without making a nom
ination. The Committee appointed re
ported through its Chairman—Col. Wm.
Phillips of Cobb—a veries of rasolutions
lamenting the condition o 7 the country,
socially and politically and urging pa
triotic action for its redemptica. The
Counvention adjourned subject to the call
of its President.
THE MARIETTA JOURNAL.
Morieite, Georgia.
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Friday Morning; Sep. 18, 68.
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Mon. HORATIO SEYMOUR,
OF NEW YORK.
FOR VICE PRESIDENT:
General FRANCIS P. BLAIR.
OF MISSOURIL
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OPINIONS Of CONFEDERATE GENER
ALS. ,
We have had, within a few days,
the Correspondence between General
Rosencrans and Generals Lee, Beaure
gard and others, on the condition of the
country, in general, and the South in
particular, in which these Southern gen
tlemen avouch the pacific intention of
the Scuthern people, while they express
the desire for the restoration of Consti
tutional liberty.
We give in this paper reported con
versations with other Confederate Gen
erals, equally interesting if not quite as
reliable.
5 The N. Y. Tribune has contribu
ted largely to the sensation arising from
the conversion of one JOHN ALLEN, a
keeper of a low brothel and known lat
terly as the ‘“wickedest man in New
York.”
JouN ALLEN was low and infamous,
but by no means the ‘“‘wickedest man”
in New York, if wickedness is estimated
by the evil commitfed. There are men
in New York who said, ‘“let abolition
come though thousands perish in the
conflict,” and who now say, “let the Af
rican have political power though mis
rule, anarchy or civil war should follow.”
These men, who can conceive of no bet
ter modes of progress than through vio
lence, such as we have witnessed and
fear, surpass in deviltry the wickedness
of a thousand JOHN ALLENS.
Z°Mas. WiLuiax T. WINN, our
State Senator, defined his political posi
tion on the 10th inst., when he said in
the Senate: “I came here as a recon
struction democrat, and I believe that
this is a legitimate body.”
On the negro question we are highly
pleased with the views he expressed on
the 11th. Upon the motion declaring
the ineligibility of the negro to office, he
said—
“No Senator denied that under the
law he had a right to vote; further the
(onstitution is silent. He is a citizen
and entitled to all the protection as such.
If he can hold office, then Senators here
may as well give up their seats in future.
He feared that the desire was to retain
them in power to put scalawags and car
pet-baggers in office. [Applause in the
gallery suppressed by Chair.] He could
find nothing in that Constitution confer
ring the right to hold office. He voted
for that Constitution as a Constitution
Democrat, believing it the best we could
do; but if negroes are to hold office,
then he begged, if possible, to take back
his vote on that subject. The Senator
from the 19th had said, they being citi
zens had that right. We argue, there
fore, that women have the same, being
ewizens and under the pratection of the
laws. As to the convention, they never
50 declared. [Here Mr. W. read from
mj“:al of the Convention, when Mr.
i rrisTmoved to strike out the section
g‘upthe right—the vote being : yeas,
b 125 ; nays, 12.] Will you depart from
the record? Did they m:an this, or
something else?t They quote the Code
in defence of this lovely nigger, this bul
wark of their party, when the beginning
of it says that persons having one eighth
of negro blood are not entitled to held
office. It is a noted fact that there are
certain persons in Georgia who can not
hold office. I would mention Mr.
Toombs asone; he can vote and nof
hold office. The negroes are not alone
in this matter. There are thousands of
noble patriots who are similarly situated.
The right to vote does not carry with it
the right to kold officc. Women are citi
zens, butthey have neither the right to
vote or hold office. You seek, however,
to place over the intelligence, the virtue
and pairiotism of Georgia, the rude, un
educated, and brutal barbarian, the ne
gro. The Senator from the 19th wishes
progress. He seeks, therefore, to pro
gress from the status of that of a white
man to that of a negro. [Laughter.] I
will never scek this level, cither to gain
office or anything else. I tell you, Sen
ators, this. 1 @ white man’s government.
The Democratic party have so said, and
no matter how you act, you cannot
change it. What! is it possible. that
we should suffer those to make our laws
who are ignorant barbarians? Thirty
six willions of people, intelligent and
enlightened, will never permit it. Some,
for ofhee, pelf, and plunder, will permit
it, and would plunge this government
into a war of races to accomplish their
purpose. Fix their status and let them
have protection to their lives, liberty,
and property. Anything that will con
duce to further this I am willing to assist
in, but to make the negro® my equal,
never.”
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' 7" The N. Y. World speaking of the
late action of the Georgia Legislature in
‘the expulsion of the negroes says, “itis
“demonstrated that the whole thing (the
restoration of rightful State govern
ments) can be managed without resort
ing to any action outside of the new
State Governments, or to insurrection
against them.” Of course it can.:
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ADMINISTRATORS SALE.
BY virtne of an order of the Honorable the:
Court of Ordinary of Cobb county, Ga., will’
be #old before court house door in the city of Mariet- '
ta said County of C obb, during the legal hours of
sale ou the first Tuesday in November next the fol
lowing real estate to-wit: i
Lot of land Number 229 in the 20th Distriot and 24
Section containing 160 acres more less, and the
South West Corner of lot Number 230, in the 20th
Distriet and 2d Section, containing 40 acres more or
less— both of said lots lying and being in said county
of Cobb. -
~ Sald at administrators sale as the property of the
estate of James Parks, deceased, late ut‘sai({c«nmty,
for the benefit of the heirs and creditors of said de
ceased, Terms Cash. This September 13, 18687
E. M. PARKS, Adm’r. ©
GEORGIA COBB COUNTY :
~ Whereas, Margaret R. Leavell applies to me for
letters of Guardianship of the persons and progeny of
Julia A. M. Leavell minor orphan of Jasper Leavell
deceased, of said county and of the persons'and prop
erty of Lucinda J., Josiah J., and Anderson J. Lea
vell, minor ophans of E. T. Leavell, late of said
county deceased.
These are therefore to cite and admonish all per
sons concerned to file their abjeetions it any they
have in my oftice on or before the first Monday in
November next—otherwise letters of Guoardianship
will be granted the applicants at that term of the
Court of Ordinary for said ecunty.
Given under my hand as Ordinary at office in Ma
rietta, this Sept. 7, 1868, "
E. A. DOBBS, Ordinary.
NOTICE.--T\VO mouths after date application will
be made to the Honorable the Court of Ordina
ry of Gobb county, for leave to sell the lands belong
ing to the estate of John Kiser, late of said ocounty
deceased, for distribuiion among the heirs. %
Sept 11 1868. M. C. KISER, Executor.
NOTICE TO DEBTORS AND CREDITORS.
ALL persons having claims against the estate of
John Kiser, deceased, are requested to present them
in terms of the law and those indebted to said estate
are requested to make immediate Ipa}fmeni. ,
Sept. 11, 1868, M. C. KISER, Executor, ..
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NOTICE—Two months after date appiication will
be made to the Court of Ordinary of Cobhb
county for leave to sell the real estate belonging”to
the estate of E. F. Leavell, deceased, for the “benefit
of the heirs and creditors of said deceased, this 7th
of Sept. 1868. 2
: ia JOHNSON WILLIAMS, Adm'r.: :
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NOTICE-—Two months after date application
will be made to the Gourt of Ordinary of Cobb
county, for leave to sell the real estate belonging ta
the estate of James M. Johnson, late of said county
deceased, for the purpose of paying the debts of said
deceased. H. M. HAM%!ETT, Adm’r.
Sept. Ist, 1868.
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NOTICE—Two months after date application
will be made to the Court of Ordinary of Cebb
county for leave to sell the real estate belonging to
the estate of Mary A. Manning late of said county
deceased, for the benefit of the heirs and creditors.
Sept. Ist, '6B. H. M. HAMMETT, Adm’r. .
ADMINISTRATOR’S SALE.
’“HLL be sold, by order of the Court of Ordinary
of Cobb County, Ga., before the Court House
door in the City of Marietta, said County of Cobb, on
the first Tuesday in November next, during the legal
hours of sale, the following Real Estate to-wit: Lets
of Land Nos, 7,8, 67, 136, 137, 216, 217, and 20 agres
off of the East half of Lot No, 138, and 30 acres off
of the East and North portions of Lot No. 79, and 24
acres off of the West portion of Lot No. 66. All of
said Lots lying and being in the 16th, District and
second section of said County of Cfind said whole
Lots containing 40 acres eack m less, and the
whole of said iand amounting in the aggregate to
354 acres more or less Sold as the property of the
Estate of William Gresham, deceased, late of said
County of Cobb, for the benefit of the heirs and credi»
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