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The Council oan see whether the pleni
tude of power, assigned by these two
general Councils mentioned, was sufficient
or not. Then I proceeded to say what I
had proposed to say I said to the Car
dinals, “you must allow me the frank
ness to say that you have committed a
a grave fault in not stating from the be
ginning what you meant by your dogma.
You say the i\pe has infallibility, but
it has never been decided at what time,
or how, or in what manner. I want to
know when I am to obey the Pope as an
infallible interpreter for the Great God.
Infallibility is in accordance with the
Holy Scriptures and of the teachings of
tradition. I want to know this only to
obey it when Ido know it. You have
never informed us. I say this my be
loved friends, and I think it an all-suffi
cient vindication in reply to a paper in
the East, which I will cot name, which
has greatly abused me. That paper said
I was obstinately and irreverently oppos
ed to anything that emanated from
Rome, and especially on the subject
of infallibility. To refute that I will
turn to the whole tenor of my life in this
city since I have had the great honor of
preaching under the Pope from God, and
that will show the contrary. If you will
refer to my book, in the controversy
with Alexander Campbell, you will see,
page by ['age, what my views are on this
subject, and that I maintain the right of
the Tope, when he talks in connection
with the Church congregated in Council
or disposed all over the world, that teaches
the true doctrine of Christ, and that he
has the faith and power. You will take
notice when I read to you the definition
of the dogma, that the Holy Father took
notice himself, and tells us in the defini
tion when it is lie teaches Christ’s infal
libility.
Then I said, “You tell us that there
were some forty Popes in the early ages
who taught what is now regarded as an
erroneous doctrine by some Cardinals.
Pellorming gives us the names of them,
and tells us what was taught. He tells
us what was ttie nature of their teachings
to a great extent. Now, says I there
are a cloud of witnesses over our heads—
these forty Popes. I called them one bv
one, and I said Uonorius, why do you
teach that there is but one will of Christ
when there is a divine will of Christ as
God and a human will of Christ as man ?
Now why should you say there is but one
will ? This definition has caused a great
deal of trouble. It created seisms and
differences of opinion, Ac., in the Chuch.
He never should have done so This
was his fault. He should have instructed
that the two wills of Christ were not in
compatible.
Then I said to the Council, in passing l
f ver this subject, here is another of those
Popes over our heads, as I imagine. It
was Nicholas Ist. who said the holy
name ot Jesus was all sufficient
without the name of the Fathers and the
Holy Ghost. That he should not
taught. He was mistaken in that, the
church says so now, and that lie never
should have taught the like. Here is
Johu, twenty-second, who teaches from
the pulpit and wishes others to teach
that those who died in the peace of God,
w.th the peace of God on their lips,
were in a Deatifice condition until the
day of judgement.
Here again these three great bishops,
and the sixth, seventh, and eighth gen
eral councils which called Honoricus
heretical. Were we to consider those
teachings ex cathedra on those occasions,
and pronounce anathema?
I will not delay you by adverting to
other instances of the kind; but I was
mo.'t happy to hear the entire Council,
as one man, concerning those I speak of
answer me. Those Popes never address
ed such doctrines to the universal
church, They only spoke to individuals
They did not speak as pastors of His
universal Church; therefore, they did not
speak cx cathedra. I cannot tell vou
v nat a mad that removed from mv mind
w hen I heard that expression that those
teachings were not ex cathedra, and there
fore not binding on our action, and that
cur action would not be considered as
binding on the teachingscf those Bishops
Applause 1;
I told the Cardinals in the Council
that there was another and a weightier
objection which I wish to iiave removed
before I give my assent to that dogma,
and that was, how wc are to understand
the claims of Boniface the Eighth, who
said two swords are given me by God—
the spiritual and the temporal.
I sought in the Dominican Library of
tne Minerva, in Borne, to refresh my
memory and to see on what grounds thev
claimed the right or controlling temporarily
the aflars of deposing Henry VIII, or
Elizabeth, or any other temporal Prince,
and absorbing their vassals from their
oath of allegiance if their sovereigns did
not respect the act of excommunication
by the Church. I could not find any
text of authority for that in the Bible.
Hence I wanted the Council to say
whether they asserted a right of that
kind, or assumed as a right, and the
entire Council, with one voice, cried out,
“Those popes had no authority, no com
mission from God to pretend to any such
power”. [Applause]
W ell, I told them, Thank God, I have
spoken and had it decided by this Coun
cil instead of assuming the responsibility
of those by-gone times. [Applause.]
The day has gme by when such things
were possible, and we were believed of
force, and we have done a great deal
by having these two important matters
settled.
The question was also raised by Cardi
nal V. ‘ What is to be doDe with the
Pope if he becomes a heretic?” It was
answered, there has never been such an
example, but in such a case the Council
of Bishops could depose him for heresy;
for from the moment he becomes a here
tic, he is not the head or even a member
of the church. The church would not
be for a moment obliged to listen to him
when he begins to teach a doctrine the
church knows to be a false doctrine, and
he would cease to be Pope, being depos
ed by God himself. If tho Pope, for
instance, were to say that the belief in
God is false, you would not be bound to
believe him, or if he were to deny the
rest of the creed, “I believe in Christ.”
Ac. The supposition is injurious to the
Holy Father in the very idea, but serves
to show you the fullness with which the
subject has been considered, and the
ample thought given to every possibility.
If he denies any dogma of church, held
by every true believer, he is no more
Pope than either you or I, aud so in this
respect the doma of infallibility amounts
to nothing (applause) as an article of tem
porary government, or a cover for
heresy.
The Archbishop spoke severely of the
misrepresentations that had been made
about his views of infallibility by an in
terviewer of a city paper. He also read
an extract from a Baltimore paper, which
he prmounced as insulting. The in
terviewer made him say the dogma could
not be published till after it was signed.
He said that the publication of the doc
trine of Infallibility need not wait for the
official singing of the acts of the* Council
before the proclaiming of the dogma af
ter it had been pronounced upon by 975
Cardinals, Bishop, Abbotts and Patri
archs; that the public needed not to wait
for it until it had been signed. He said
that he came, here to proclaim the perso
nal infallibility of the Pope in his own
words. He was a true Roman Catholic,
as he had said here, as lie had proclaim
ed in hisleters to the Pope, as he had
proclaimed in the. Council, as he had af
firmed in Cincinnati and elsewhere in
this country.
In his discussion with Mr. Campbell
he had indicated the infallibility of the
Church in the strongest language, and
with the strongest arguments of which
he was capable, and he was not now going
back of all that he had h itherto said upon
the subject.
The Archbishop then read the text of
the dogma of infallibility, translating it
as it read. He prefaced it thus: “I
want the editors of the newspapers and
the reporters who are here present to
send it on the wings of the press, north,
south, cast and west, that I, John B
Purcell, Archbishop of Cincinnati am
one of the most faithful Catholics that
ever swore allegiance to Rome.”
His grace said in conclusion, “The
bishops were many of them afraid that
outside influences would be brought to
bear on the church, and very often they
said it is not the Pope with the white cos
saek that we have to fear, but certain ec
clesiastics, who dress in black cassocks,
who may influence the Pope and make
him say what they please. But wherever
there are men there will be vices and de
fects, so the Holy Father has to watch as
well as to pay, and he has sometimes to
be even a little distrustful of those who
pretend to his officious minions, and who
tell him things they should not. But
my dear friends, as I have said, wherever
there are men, there will be vices and de
fects. And where will you find in his
tory anything to compare with the almost
absolute freedom from vice and error
and crime and disorder, sueh as you will
tin Tin the conduct of the Catholic Church
by the Pope, whom God has now placed
over her?
In tne tenth century there were per
sons who had political power in Rome,
and were thrust into the Chair of St.
Peter, but God soon thrust them away;
and it you are ever called to answer this
argument againt your church, von can
?ay that in the genealogy 0 f Jesus Christ
there were very bad men. and that as
that did not make Jesus Christ bud, so
in tho Pontifieial succession, also, there
were a few bad men, but that did not
make the Pontifieial succession vicious:
aud beyond this we can see the church
going on her safe and glorious course
UMI! ©I fll gWI.
or eighteen hundred years, amid all
sorts of dangers and persecutions, to a
g ! orious immortality. Or, to take another
image, wo can see the bark guided by
Chrfst and His Vicars riding through the
winds and waves, and gone to reach at
last the haven of refuge with its precious
freight of immortal souls.
WAR IN EUROPE.
Paris, August. 27 —The assertion of
the correspondent of the Daily Times that
the Garde Mobile is composed of children
under the age of IS is untrue. Every
member is from 20 to 25
There have been more arrests, under
Trocliu’s decree.
This morning’s j mrnals persist in report
ing a serious engagement within the past
few days, resulting In favor of the French.
The r o are now in Paris 150,000 sheep,
40,000 hogs, and 25,000 beeves. In case
of a seige the authorities will prevent
unreasonable prices for the necessaries of
life.
Jxveral more spies were executed to
day.
The Prussians approach causes mtense
excitement.
Dispatches from the various provinces
announce the sudden and immense increase
of volunteering tor the defence of the capi
tol.
The railway stations at Rheims were re
cently pillaged by bummers, and the Im
perial baggage was stolen. It has since
been disposed of to various dealers here.
The value of the property taken is im
mense.
The Emperor is with MaeMahon, who
is on his retreat by way of Vouziers.
The Presse affirms thrt Steiametz is cut
off from Frederick Charles and driven
northward, and also that the Prussians
have been decidedly checked at Mtzieres.
R is reported that the Government is
preparing a note to its representatives an
nouncing that France will prosecute the
war to its last extremity, and no proposi
tion looking to peace will be entertained
while the enemy is on her soil.
The following official is furnished by the
Minister of the Interior: a force of the
Prussian cavalry was at Areis Sur
Aube. [Note. —Areis is thecapitol of the
department of Aube, 10 miles north of
Troyes, and 25 miles Fouth of Chalor.s. ]
A detachment of Uhlans attacked the
railroad depot at Epernay, while the
others ot the main body entered the
town. The National Guard attacked and
repulsed them, killing 17.
A strong column of Prussian artillery
entered Chahms.
The garrison of Strasburg yesterday
sortied and captured a convoy of cattle and
some munitions of war. The city still
makes a vigorous resistance.
A Urge body of Germans, supposed to
be from Lindwehr, lately passed through
Nancy, Van Couleurs and Joinville, for
Chalons.
The reported appearance of Prussian
scouts at Chateau and Thierny is uncon
firmed. Detachments are reported to day
at Ilheirns, Varennes, Verdun, Pfalsburg,
Par Le Due, Stenav, and on the railroad
between Soissoos and 11 helms.
Bretagne, August 27 —The Prince
Imperial is at Bethel, twenty-three miles
from Meziere.
Bazaine officially reports the French
loss at Rezonville at 23,000.
Representatives of Prance, England and
Prussia binned the Belgium neutrality
treaty.
The Times % reviewing the Prussian re
sources, says: Their army reserves are
formed to await events —one on the Rhine,
under Duke Mecklenburg Schwarn, and
one at Berlin under General Constaine,
and one in Selcsia,under General Tor
rentzerg.
According to French report 15,000, and
according to Prussian report 20,000 French
soldiers are disabled by hospital and
typhus fever.
The Prussians are intensely incensed
about firing on flag.-? of truce.
The famous cigar steamer, probably
Wi nan’s, passed Dover eastward.
The Prussians say half the journey to
Paris is accomplished, and that all ob
structions are left behind.
The English Government, while its
militia and volunteers are only half armed,
ships 40,000 rifles to the Continent, and at
the same time the English people send lint
and bandages for the wounded.
A movement for the aid of French and
German wounded has become universal in
England,
The northern movement of McMahon
has been fully confirmed.
A fight occurred yesterday, near Mont
medy; between advanced detachments of
the French and Prussian armies. The
Prussians were repulsed.
Large reinforcements have been sent
from Paris, by the northern railway, to
McMahon’s army.
The tactics cf McMahon appears to be
to reorganize the broken corps, thereby
swelling his ranks, aod then sweep along
the borders of Belgium, avoiding a battle
until he makes a junction with Metz from
the north. If successful, he will cut the
Prussian’s communication at Arwold.
To is ie supposed to be the policy that Pa
hkao hintec. at in the Corps Legislatif a few
days ago.
The Prussians captured General Mon
taign, heretofore reported wounded.
. A meeting at Sligo, to form an associa
tion to aid the wounded, manifested strong
sympathy for France.
Henry Labouchere writes a telegraphic
dispatch from Paris that the Emperor is
actually suspended. His Cabinet remains
in power only because its chief thought it
possessed administrative capacity. The
Corps Legislatif is supreme, but is con
sc ous of a lack cf national confidence,
owing to the manner of its election.—
Trochu anc the Committee of Defence is
ruling France absolutely.
The Marquis of Heretford, who died in
Paris, bequeathed to the Prince Imperial
a largo sum.
The Prussians wi’l send no more flags of
truce.
The Prussians are still endeavoring to
divert the river 111 from Strasburg. If
they can succeed the moat will be left clry.
Berlin, August 27 —A note from
Berlin has been addressed to the Prussian
Envoys is regard to the flag of truce ask
ing the cessation of hostilities to bury the
dead, which truce was refused, and the
flag insulted three times Prussia, there
fore, declares its resolution to offer no
diplomatic negotiations to the French peo
ple until the empir* is declared at an end.
London, August 27.— Ratification • of
treaties guaranteeing the neutrality of Bel
gium exchanged here to-day by the
various European powers.
The junction of Bazoine with MacMa
han has not yet been effected.
London, August 27.- The Prussian
Prince Royal has issued a proclamation
saying that Prussia makes war against the
Emoeror, and not the people. The people
have nothing to fear. The Prince an
nounces bis purpose to .restore every line
of travel intercepted or destroyed by army
operations so that labor and commerce
mav everywhere be renewed,
French officials are ordered to remain at
their posts. Personal safety guaranteed.
The Hessians, according to the French, are
distinguishing themselves by their tradi
tional pillage and brutality.
Pams, August 27. —The Moniteur says
the Prussians wish to invest Paris, but
France will invest it before them. Every
department is without loss of honor, and
with that unanimity which alone promises
great results, and forms corps’of volun
teers. In 184S an important movement
that took place, and an order which then
saved us, saves us to day. It is the safety
of our native land which rouses us, and all
the country is degenerate if in less than
forty-eight hours our enthusiasm don’t
make itself widely known, and the
provinces don’t send Paris at least 50,000
defenders. Our material interests as well as
love of country, invite us to make all sac
rifices. Ought we not be more willing to
expend our resources in driving out the
enemy than to be compelled to yield him
victory and disgraceful tribute?
Paris, August 28, midnight.—The fol
lowing intelligence is published: On
the 23th, at 9. a. m., Verdun was attacktd
by the Prussians 10,000 strong, command
ed by the Crown Prince of Saxony. After
an ardent combat of three hours, during
which 300 shells were thrown into the
city, the Prussians having suffered heavily
by our artillery, were repulsed. Their loss
is considerable. The Garde Mobile served
our guns. We have five killed and twelve
wounded. The enemy fired cn an ambu
lance train. Two peisou3 belonging to it
were killed. The citizens made a vigorous
defence.
The Journal Official to-day publishes a
decree adding Thiers to the C:-mmittce of
Defence. This movement seems to be a
very popular one on the part of the
Government. Many of the journals to day
dwell on the necessity ot this appointment
and to fortify tho right bank of the Moselle.
The Prince Royal slept night before las’
at Chalons.
Government officials, other than Ministers,
whil go to Tours, Bourges and Lyons
Thursday morning.
The Prussians have captured ten guns,
Two battalions of the Garde Mobile were
annihilated by the Prussian cavalry. Sev
enteen French officers and 850 soldiers
were captured. The Prussians had one
major severely, and three troopers slightly
wounded.
The movement of the Prussians along
the Aube seems to have bvn arrested.
They are falling lack on Sr Dizier. Large
bodies of enf'antry are passing through
Luneville and Baron.
The Journal Officio! states that the
Governme: t is aciing in c ncert with the
Chambers on the quest! nos preparing
Paris for a siege-
Orders have been givpn to admit wines
*nt-j tie city free of duty ; also, other
merchandize
? A letter from a certain point also sav«
that Belgium has announced its determi
nation to oppose all violations of her terri
tory by arms, if necessary.
Ihe Gonstitutionel says the order calling
out ail former soldiers between the ages of
25 and 35, married and unmarried, creates
considerable uneasiness. It adds: “It
were better to incorporate 350,000 Garde
Mobile in the regular array.”
It also adds that the Prussians act not
only against ordinary military laws, but
aLo those of humanity. At Strasbourg
they force young men to work in the
trenches under threats of death, while
shots are being thrown from the besieged
city and kill them. Thus Frenchmen are
forced to kill their brethren. Such acts
rtie unworthy cu this age, and it gives a
gular idea of the Prussian civilization,
and only tends to increase the French
hatred and augment determination against
the Spanish and Prussians.
The Gonstitutionel says GambetG and
two distinguished lawyers, have already
recruited 12,000 workmen, and are re
quested to go to the defence of the fort De
Btcetrc, on the southern border ot the
city.
The Constitution el adds: We must pre
pare as though we expected the enemy at
our gates to-morio *. We mu**t be calm,
resolute and ready to face all dangers.
When plac*« like T.ul, Strasbourg, Ptlas
bourg and Metz resist so bravely, r hall not
Paris, so strong, so difficult to surround,
keep back the enemy ? We ars more than
300,000 strong, not counting all who are
able to bear arms. Our city must be the
rampart of civilization.
Berlin, August 27. —The general head
quarters are temporarily at St. Dizier.
Great quantities of 3tores for thft Prus
sian army are at Nancy.
Metz is completely invested. Bazaine,
who is in command there, makes no effort
to force a passage. Deserters report the
extreme demoralization of the garrison.
The Prussians are strongly entrenched
before Metz.
Os three new armies just organized in
Germany, one will m»rcn on Paris, with
the Prince Raya!, the other will remain to
picket the roar.
World's special London reported
that a battle occurred yesterday near
Rheims. Heavy cannonading was lie ard.
No particulars. The engagement was
probably between McMahon and Prince
Frederick, or the Crown Prince. The
Crown Prince at Bar le Due was joined
by a portion of theJKing’s force. The united
army is moving rapidly, and will probably
reach Paris Tuesday or "Wednesday.
The King’s object is to conclude the
campaign as speedily as possible.
Napoleon is with McMahon, but Mc-
Mahon’s whereabouts are unknown.
The public feeling in Paris is very hope
ful.
All vagrants and bad women are turned
out of Paris.
The Russian Minister has rebirned to
St. Petersburg from Vienna. The object
of his vidt was to express on tnc part of
Russia a strong desire to improve their re
lations with Austria. Austria reciprocates
and is anxious to contribute to its fulfi 1-
meut.
Paris, August 29.—A letter describing
the preparations fora siege, says f wo hun
dred thousand good troops are in Pain,
and fresh thousands well armed, arrive
hourly. A lew corps from Lyons has arrived
Gendearmes, policemen, franestereurs,
foresters and custom-house servants are
coming from all departments.
Preparations for defence continue. All
the French palaces have been appropri
ated for hospitals.
Russia and England are strongly op
posed to French dismemberment.
One hundred and eighty thousand gun
ners from the fleets are ia the fortifica
tions.
The city is swarming with troops.
The cocvicrion is strong mat the enemy
will bo checked.
IRELAND AND THE WAR
THE MUNSTER CATHOLICS FOR FRANCE.
Our Cork correspondent telegraphs;
Eight or ten thousand people assembled
at Treaty Stone, Limerick, yesterday
to express sympathy with France. A.
brass band attended, and a profuse dis
play of banners was made bearing various
inscriptions, one being, “God save France
and our Holy Father, the Pope.” Re
solutions were passed expressing the
hope that Fiance would come victorious
ou: of the struggle, and declaring that
the splendid example of France, whose
people surround the flag in irrefragable
unity, should admonish Irishmen to sink
their differences, and unite for the in
terests of Ireland in a spirit of patriotic
devotion. A speaker who ventured to
say (he Irish would defend Queen Vic
toria evoked great uproar and indignant
denials. Another defied England to go
to war, and declan and her forces were
shattered end disorganized. After the
meeting, two thousand persons paraded
in military order, preceded bv a band,
and carrying an euormons French tri
color. The police did not interfere at
all.
In a Belfast telegram we read: Some
disturbances occurred in Derry on Satur
day night and Sunday morning. The
working-men had an excursion, and on
their return at 10 o’clock Saturday
night, their band played national airs,
and a crowd which followed cried,
“To hell with King Willian,” and
cheered for France. The Protestant
party responded, “To hell with the
Pope,” and cheered for Prussia and “no
surrender.” A riot ensued, stones were
freely used, and shots were exchanged.
Two men were seriously wounded with
with slugs; others were injured. Houses
were wrecked. The military were called
out by the Mayor, but the authorities re
framed from firing on the mob. Order
was not restored until daylight yes
terday morning.
Pall Mall Gazette.
Death of a Catholic Priest. —The
Rev. Father John Shanahan did in
New York on Monday. The deceased
was known throughout the United
States, and at the time of his death was
the third oldest Priest in the Union,
Father McElroy, of Boston, being the
oldest and Father Kiernan, of Lancaster,
Pa., hJns the next. lie was born in
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