Savannah republican. (Savannah, Ga.) 1824-1829, July 13, 1824, Image 1

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SAVAN 150,...Vol XXII. Tuesday evening, jvly ib, tss*. Whole No 44$1 tor lAverpool. One hundred baL' cut.,a are wanted on freight in the lirig CHATHAM, laving the balance of her corgo on board. Ap- l,y *° S. D. PAU1CMAN July 8 mI48 ^ ■ ''. .. For New York, (ESr.iULIsIlEI) LINE. The packet ship AUGUSTA, D Van DyKe, Master. Wilt sail on Thursday next, ti e lHliinst For fieh' orpaasage, having handsome acenmino- faUnns, apply to HAI.L fc HOYT, pity 10 M9 Testimony anil Documents, 1 ® t November, I8I9. Can you State u 1 whether there wus not another paper en closed in that letter ? he Sto sun Bout I'arottrm, ¥ lcl. on ti.'l»u»-:-day next, the *4in nisi ci.m mence runnoig bet ec Savin.nah unci anictuicler landing, opposite Rotiertville. 8 C *ave Bolton’s central wlitaf very 'flend y, j i wlitttt , at 6 o' ’clock A M-ar-j M ,„.„ ri jrave Bolton’ 1 riiur.day and Saturday hve at ‘aracmicier the 8"me days at 7, l*. M BeiUrnitiR— Leave Puracliucler every Wed lies- &ay, Friday ami Sunday, at 7 o clock A. M. and teach savannah at 4 o’clock, t’ M , She will lake Passengers and Freight to and from Itobeuville, S C—also, on her way up amt flown, to and from I’tn ysburg, Kbenescr,Sisters’ my, and Tuckasoekii g. stir will emitimie to touch at Purysburg eve- Iry day, < xc-pt Monday, at her usual hour going land returning. [ Passengers will b« provided with Breakfast land Homer on board . By this arrangement ihe.Steam Boat convey- lance connected willi.i' e Savannah and Augusta (line ot'stages is expended trom Savannah to Rob* ertvill ,SCi june 24 tUl ON THIS MEMORIAL OF Ml NUN liOWAUDS [conxinued.] Q I)i l you consider the funds of the United f ates safer hi the hands of the Receiver than r» the Bank of Kdwardsville, Ibr ninety days ? A. 1 considered the funds, ut that time, aa ate in the hands of either, with this difference, h»w ever, that the Hank might have been more liable to use them than the Ut-caiver Q Did you not. afie- cr about this time Write to u Paymaster r J'aymSsters, recommending, suggesting, or soliciting lum or them to pu.v lha trno|,s of the G oiled States in miles of the Bank of F.ilwardiviie? A 1 have no recollection of having written to any P <\ master ai -.11 n the subject I had, at that time, a*4nuch Confidence in the notes of the Batik ofE'lwiirilsville ns in any of the local Hunks •Their notes were reoeivaoichi the 1 and Office, and wore current in ihat purl of the country and, 1 should snppn e, might have been taken by persons to whom the Paymaster was to make Ins payments, as saf.ly is'any other notes In that quarter of the country, nor should I have had a ny objection to refeommend them G any P u mas er i-a rcadilv hh any oilier of the notes of the In cal banks which circulated there l t fink, a buut that time, l had Imud iifsome order having been given by th ■ W «,r Department • whicit, as well as 1 now remember required the troops t'o be paid either in Missouri paper or in specie; ai d, I iliink, l wrote to llie Secreta y of War, ami ,probably to other persons, probably tu Col Jelin tm, complaining oflthe order, Q Do you recollect whether it was before or ntV r you attended Congress, that you wrou t'l.se letters? A 1 do nut recollect the time, but I suppose it musi have beau after the first, and bel'-re tin- second session 1 st-i vod inC mg esa The Hank only got into operation a short time before my departure for Congress, in 1818. I recoil ctbm little ofthe case- nlftldi d to. I am, huWcver. sit or. ply impressoti with*, a iielief that there w.t.- or that Lo,- understood it,a* order to Payitiasu.is that I considered very partial to the Bank ol Bank to the Treasurer of .he United : know wnat they were doing a-much as an* Slates, in a draft oil John II. Piatt, aectlr (other ineijibei? A. I cannot. I neither raw nor heard of another. Q For whatpurposp was your address to Congress, a d the letter to the Speukerac- dthiipatiying it aetitih a different manner ami to a different person froin the docu ments and the copy of the address, which you -tale was first sent? [The Committee derided that the ques tion should not be pu-] Q .Yotijstate, imirte if your audressoa to public, at Louisville,dated 18’h May, 1824, that vou sincerely believed, and had been kdvisetl by your most dispassionate friends and other impartial gentlemen, that it wm absolutely and essuitiallv due to your own cnarncte, to enter into this controversy wi It Mi Crawford ? I wish you to state who these dispassionate fi tends anil iinpar iiai pei sous were. A. I object to the question. [!' L’ minittee decided it should not be i if 3 A if life made that ob'C vattOn, I do Iidt. recollect it. He might have dune so. Q When you had this conversation with him, bad nut the Richmond Enqutirr oh that, or soma,day not long before, befer. re ceived in this city, containing an allegation that EdWarde, "'theautiiO'ofthe A.Bi isa tnalteriu negutialiunbr'weci) riiatstate plot,” hud been nominated ns Minister to ' ~ ' IMi " - UTflSll ed by two good endorsers; and, fio(u very recent information, I learn that this draft is now in the hands of the Treasury £)*- partOient, or the District Attorney, Mr Dewey, anti in a train to be recoveied.— A further sum of £7000 it secured in obli gatjons against the state of Indiana, which and the Treasury of the United'States Q. H ive you had Gov. Edwards concerning nianagement of the Western Banks, and concerning his authorship of ihe A B let ter* ? .tf. I have; and it was introduced by himself StBte that conversation, with the time and i-i r cutnstance*. Jl. The previse day I cannot recollect; it was petir ing his noininatinn made by the President of the United States to the Sen ate,ns Minister to Mexico; anil.it was nf jter the 21st or 22jJ of Febiinrv last. 1 make this statement, from the fact, that on Q Did nut your affidavit, before the Com* | the 21st or 22d of Febunry, I went to Mrs. Corn Jljlotit. BU flKt.*s uhiimore white Corn the cargo of he schr Haracoa, Eirnalein parcels lo accommodate purchasers— |M> lo ' GEO. F. PM.MBS, Exchange-Dock. July 3 wt4fi NOTICE. I ll \\ It.!.I t M i UK.'.Ell, having ai-aigned to the subscribe s all his s'oek in trade, debis, ho. in .behoof of his creditors generally, it is requested that those indebted make inunc- dime payment, and those having claims will please render them lo Mr Thomas Millet, who 9 appointed their agent to dispose of the stock, vhich.comprhcir a general assortment of Seasonable Dry Goods, 6ml will be si.kl, wholesale or in retail, at very reduced prices, tor cash only J.iMKS MMIENUV, JOHN H lll'.ID, GEOltGE UEI.l’H, A ssiguf-es of \Vm Turner. spvil 14 hfi -r , vv- T 1 .—r— •'■TT . -.1.4 -» liNo. B’HR stock of Dry Goods, which formerly be l longed to Mr William Turner, is now sel mg olfat pric.es much under cost. aprii 16 B8 Georgia—Chatham County. py the Huuorable the Justices of the Inferior Court of said County, sitting for ordinary pur poses. To all whom it may concern. r HF.RBAS Wm H Green, Administrator of Mary Fleming, dec. lias applied to the sionorable the Court of Ordinary, to be dis charged from the administration aforesaid. Now, therefore these are to qjte and admbn «h ail and singular the kindred and Credito 8 at Ihe said Mary Fleming, dec. to file their objec lions (if any they havej in the Clerk’s office of laid Court, on or before the tpnth of September next, otherwise letter dismissory will be grant ed, and the said William H. Green be discharged ln>m all claims whatever, as administrator of the laid dec, I Witness the honorable Edward Ilarden, one w the Justices ofthe said Court tiiis lOih day of March, A. D 1824. march 10 57 S M. BOND, c c o. EX'' unmoF Francis Jalineau. I-L persons having any iU maiiusagainst the 1 estate of Francis Jalineau, dec. are request- P'l to deliver them in, properly attested, on or fjeiore the first day of October next All ac- pounts not presented previous to that day, will f n V efuse <i payment by the undersigned exepu .inly 10 149 [OPPlCE F 1R HIIIPI’IX ; *HF> subscriber is now able to attend person ally to the duties of ripping Seamen anil the No tarial liusiness. M the office of Alexander Hunter and Wm. P. ears, at the N wj corner of the Exchange. ■*J« 106 WM.P.11BBM. Q Was the letter which you wrote, at the re- qin-Ht of Mr Btephrnson, dated on the same d.iy on which it W-bUo: i.-il ? A 1 do i.oi recollecti liu< I presume it was. Q Did y>. « « e lion, on that day, enclose printed copy of your publication? and were both in the same package ? A. It way oh the same day, and, I think, both lett .-r mid paper wore , o iii one cover. Q. Was the l and Office, then, kept in M i>te)iheiiKon’s houst ? or in a auperate building ? A It was in u seperale budding, not far from his house, H Did you see him carry the letter to the Post Offisr; or do you know that l,-.- did so ? A. I did not sec i' put hi, nor do I know tlmi it was The Pn-t Office waa at a considerable distance fiom the pi»ce Q At -a liai time of the day, in the morning ov ibe afternoon, uas the copy taken? * 1 do not ■'•■collect. Q Did yon make the d'aft'at the office, or i. your own house. In fore you went til re? A. I think it was written in m* own house. Q. Was it made on tin--aime day on which it was conii-d, or the d >y liefnrc? A. I d > not recolb ct, but I think it was on the same <!r-y Q. At wliat hour of the day din the mail leave Edwardjtvi'de fir Wnshi’.gton Ci"- - , nt that time ? A I do not remember the hours of arrival or departure. Q. How long does it usually take letters to reach Washington City, from Eilwardsville, by mail? . A Fr- m 16 to 18 days, I think, in regular course ot Mail, and when the weather is good— but it may be very much delayed when the we t- tlier is bad The mail ha., been very irregular. Q Wliat is the average time in which you have received letters from that place, when you have been in this city? Would 20 day s be an unreasonable allowance? A I do not know bow to mnke an average; miscarriages are more liable to happen in the winter time, not only from accidents, but. from the accumulation of letters, and I cannot now specify in how long a time I have received a sin gle - ne of my letters after it was mailed fiom there I think I have rtet-ived much fewer in twenty days than those which have taken s Ion ger time The mail has been irregular in the wintertime during ihe sessions of Congress, letters at least have arrived very irregularly Q I understand you to have said, that, but for the Secretary’s report to Congress, on the 22d of March, you would have gone quietly to Mex ico, without disturbing > ourself with any of those charges against him ? A I believe 1 have stated, and I now state gain, that I should not have made the attack up on Mr Crawford, if I had not considered him as atiactingme Question, by Mr Webster Have you been pretty well acquainted with the general opera tions of the Treasury, in the Western States, for several years, in regard to the collection of the public debts ? A I have been, -in regard to the collection from the sale of public lauds, but of the special facts contained in the documents, I had no other means of knowing than every other member of Congress, except wliat I knew from being a Di rector of the Bank of Bdwardsville, while I was such. . „ Q t hen did you first become a Member ot Congress ? A 1 was elected in 1818. Q Have you continued a member, without in- tenpissidn, from that time until your recent di plomatic appointment ? A I have Q Have you, generally, attended the sessions f Congress? A. I have- Question, by Mr Livingston. Do you know a- ny thing farther, of your own knowledge, m support ofthe facts and specifications against Mr Crawford, contained in your memorial? A Nothing that I recollect, at this time, thai relates td the matters specially alledged in my address to the House. NIVIAN EDWARDS, June IG.,1824, Mr Edwards being again called. Questioned, by Mr Forsytlf. You state ■that you received from the Gasliie' of thy; Bank of Edwartsvilld itu ehcjb ure, co> tained in a letter from Mr Crawford to him, I - < miitbe nt investigation of the last Congress, wi'h respect tu thi* correspondei.ee. which you allege took place be ween the Secre.a- y of the Treasury and Mr Stephenson, iin- poieupon iheS. c.ftary the necessity,when he made his final tepo.-t either to pioduce ihat coriesfiOiidence or to account tortile omission to produce i? ? A. I submit the question to the Commit tee. IV- Committee derided it should not be put] Q l)e you think it pmdble that, iu the yerif 1819, a letter should have come by mail, from Edw trilsville to VVas)ungton from (lie I6tii of October tu thu 1st of No- vembe foliowmg i A. Judging from the StAtemei.t I have il-.y -teen, from the Post Office De.part- ment [ d.ould think it was nut: but, if the lett'T (il the Receiver did not leave Ed- wa'dsville bel'o e the 16th of October, I do not believe Ihat Mr Cr'avvford’s letter to the Receiver, of the 1st o( .November fol lowing, was written or sent on the day of us date, unless the letter uf the Receiver was »ont. by private conveyance to Louis ville, and mailed there. Question, byM- Floyd. When, in your deposition, heretofoje taken, you mention the name of *• Colonel Moo r e.’' to what CiV. M mre did you allude. A To u representative in Congress from AI diaina. Q. by Mr Floyd. You state that you had p epai-rd another address to the House of Representatives subsequently to writing die first, which, should Congress have ad journed.you intended to get published in tiieNatiun.il Intelligencer, il y»u could. What w is your object in wishing to have il so published ? A. I ihouglr I had obtained sufficient testimony to establish* my innocence of the charge or imputation which I underslond .VI Crawford as having made again.t me; and i wished o lav hat tes imony and mv tdtlresa before (lie people of the United States. (June 5 0tl(. Mr Edwards farther exam iiied) Q. by M* Forsyth. Have you, not h«l, in your po-sessinn, the paper which y u say Lippiucot found in the Receiver’s offi ce in your hand writing, if any time since the 12th of October. 1819? A. I presume that the d aft ofthe letter oftlve Receiver of the 12'b of October is •llutled to. IVre is nothing Ihat l more firmly believe than that I have never seen that paper from the time it was copied by the Receiver, as has Deen before stated un til it was found b> Mi Lippincot in the office, in April or Miy la»t,ashas also been stated. I then held i i my mods and read ft, I believe, more than once, but never had it in my possession, out of the office, after it was so found by Mr Lippincot Q Do you know who prepared the rough draft of the letters from the President of the Edwartlsville B ihk to you, of January 7.1810. to the Secretary of the Treasury of the same date, and to (he Secretary of Ihe Treasury of the 18th of April, 1620,^or eithe- of them? A I do not, NINIAN EDWARDS. .. . .... exicu? nod cad you say pusitiwiy tl k^ uny conversation with'the denial of the authorship on the part of ^rinug Mt C'Awfmd’* Mi Edwards did not relate to the plot in stead »f the wiitings themselves Under that signature? and did nut the conversation grow «ui ol that publication? A T sow an article in the Riclimocd En* quirer,slating that Niniatt Edwards, the ^•author of A. B ”^)r‘*ofA. B.jdotmetnmy, rt (l do not recollect which,) had been an no* minated. The paper I saw at the boauilng house of Mis Queen, and thinkinthe hands nf M Elkins; whether it was before the conversation with Guv. Ed wauls, or a I era wards, I (To not distinctly recollect. 1 am inclined to think it was after the conVe -a- tion; but 1 am very well satNIi.-d, that, in the conversation with Gov. E whvn ho de clared himself not to be the author uf AD. and pledged his honor to the declaration, that 1 understood him to have an rk\ licit reference to the numbers signed A.B •Inch appeared in the Wasnington Republic-mi and 1 so understfod him, because he had reference to the reports of the two commit tees who examined into that subject a* die previous session of Congress. No allusion whatever was made in this con vernation to the article in theRichmond E quir-r. Q In the course of the cunve> sntio-i, was Q jeeo’s to biumi, where Governor Ed wards resided, and this conversation was after ( went there. He stated that he was iibuu’t to hu attacked in the Senate of the United Slates for the purpose of defeating his nomination; that party and political spirit was now high; that he understood that charges would be exhibited against him, and ihat it hud been so declared in the Senate Chamber. I remarked to Govern or Edwards that he Well knew, according to the rules of that body, while on Execu tive business, secrecy was required ; that I was not ut liberty to mention any occur-1 reference made to any particular numbers rence, or the remark of a single member, of the publications signed A. B. James Noble, ofthe Senate sworn, on the part of Mr Crawford. Q. You were employed by ihe Treasury ,in some arrangements with the Bink of Vincennes, were you not ? Will you be so good as to state whether, iu yuur opinion, the debt due by that Bank to the Govern mentis secuied, or any part of it, and, if any, what ? 'Jl. So far as I lad the agency in it, which is to the amount of about 826,000, 1 be lievt* and consider the debt as secured. Q Du you consider the claims of the United Mtates on that Bank, apart from the collateral security, as being safe? . j3. .As to the residue ofthe clajm which ■the United Mates has against the Bunk of Vincennes, 1 know nothing of it, except from information, which has been derived from the Directors, who say that the Bank is able to pay the deot, and has secured ita payment. A pa'-t of that debt, consisting, of 310,000, (not in dud-d in t 1 * 826,000 bijforemtntiqnedJ'Wfit trgasfer-cd by th»I excepting so Isr as related to myself; that I was not governed by party or political feelings or motives; that i adhered to the expression made use nt by Jefterson—and the only inquiry with ine was. ft. he capa ble and is he liuueet? Gov. Edwards then remarked that, although secrecy was re quired in that body, yet he was informed, almost every day, of the transactions and arid remarks of individuals when his nom ination wus called up;aud he added, "No ble, I shall not forget yqu-’' I then re [died, that I diu not understand his mean ing He said it was unimportant—he was satisfied l was not governed by the paity feelings which ware then prevailing; It was on that day, in the evening of which this conversation took place, that 1 had moved to take up his nomination in the .Senate. This must have been hi* mean ing, when lie said he would not furget me; for he explained it the next day, and said he had heard that I hud done so. Mr. E. farther remarked, thnt he knew me to be the decisive friend of William H. Craw ford; and, said he, I am considered as be ing his bitter enemy—and I am charged with being the author of the numbers sign ed A B.; but, fraising his band,) I pledge you my honor, I am not the author, not do I know who the author was. Crawford anti I, said M- Edwards, have had a little difference,hut 1 hove always considered him a high-minded, honorable, and vigi lant < fficer ofthe government; he has been abused about the Western banks and the unavailable funds; (l-ai<ing forward and extending his hand,) he added. Now d—n it, you ki.ow we both live in states where there ure mSny pour debtors to the govern ment for lands, <ogether with a deranged currency. The notes nn various banks being depreciated, after the effect and op eration ofthe war in that portion of the Ufiion, and the banks,by attempting to call in-their paper, having exhausted their spe ; cie, the notes that were then in circulation became of little or no value. Many men of influence in that country, said he, have united to induce the Ssc-etaiy ofthe Trea sury to select certain banks as batiks of deposite, and to take the notes of certain banks in pavment fur public lands. Had he not done so, (meaning Mr, Crawford.Jl many of our inhabitants would have been turned nut of doot.s and lost theirland* and the people of that country would have had an universal disgust against.Mr Craw- fmd; ind I will ventrne to suy, said Mi Edwards, notwithstanding I am con sidered his enemy, that no man in this government could have conducted the fiscal and financial concerns of the gov ernment with more integ’ity and propri e'y than Mr Criwfn d did I farther remarked to Governor Edwards, iti speaking of his nomination, that. nas- muchag he was nominated by the President, unless some charge was brought against him, I had already evinced in the Senate my disposition lo vote for the t confirmation of his nomination, without any previous consultation wi<h hint; but added, if I had the power of making the nomination, I would not have nominated him; and, as an evidence of it, I had written a letter to Mr Monroe, urging the nominition of Wm. Henry Harisun, and with that lette,* l had enclosed the unanimous recommendation of tlie members of the Legislature of Indi ana in favor.of General Harison. Question by Mr Cook. When Gov. Ed wards mentioned lo you that he knew wliat . the Senate was d »ing, did he not at tlie same tinie of"“—♦*'“* 1 ° that lie was a had a right to A There was not. Q Wa- the name of Gen.Cocke at all in- trot!tired ? A It was not. Q When did you first mention the enii- versation you have now repeated as having passed between yourself and Gov Ed wards? A According to the best of my recollec tion, I never repeated.it to any person un til the evening i.fthe day thatl was infor med that Gov. Edwards address was pre sented to the House of Repiesentatives~ on that evening, in conversation with sev eral of the ntembes of that House, amongst whom were Mr Reed and M, Nelson- some of whom said that Guv. Edwards had avowed himself to be the author of A B and others said that be had done so, I re marked that they must have misunderstood the address, for G»v Edwards had pledged his honor to.me that he was not the vufhnl* of A B—in the same evening I made tho same remark to Mr Elkins- Q Did you mention the subject to any member of the SeDaty. A Not while his nomination was pend ing, nor before his addross appeared—af terwards 1 spoke of it'without reserve, Q I preceive from the Kiehtnnod En quirer that a le'tei .purporting to havr been written in the senate Chamber, and dated April 26, 1824, states, that “Mr N. Ed wards declared to Mr Noble, Senator from Indiana, that he was not the author of the A B publiraiioi.—he did this pending his nomination as Minister to Mexico; in i on- sequence of this declaration Mi N"ble states that he voted for him”—did you make any such connnunica ■ ion to any mem ber ot the Senate? [M, Forsyth objected to this questien— and the Coinmittes decided the question Was improper.] Q Did you ever have any conversation with Col. Benton of the Senate on the sub ject ol your conversation with Mi Ed- ward-? A Yes. Q In the conversation you had wi'h Mt 1 Ed wards, did he speak of the original plant adopted bv the Secretary ofthe Treasury fur the relief of the people ofthe WVat, otf did he speak of the manner in which that; plan was executed? A He spoke of the conduct of the Sec* rotary of the Treasury generally. Q Did you understand tho conversation you have mentioned as intended to affect your vote on the then pending nomination? A I did not suppose that that was its design,nor had it.any such' effect upon my self I considered him as shaking as an hur.est man : If he had told me he was the author of A B it would not in my opinion have hid the least weight with me what ever in relation to my vote—for I.cofisid* ered that matter as done with, and I had already taken ait active partifor him in thq Senate; Question by Mr Forsyth. Whatdo y<ta now understand as having been the effect intended t« have been produced by that conversation? A Guv Edwards having' pledged his word 4nd honor to me* unsought for, that he was not the author of A B; aad having expressed his opinion ofthe integrity aud vigilance of the Secretary of the Treasury, and mentioned that lie expected an attack inthe Senate, I now suppose from thq friends of Mr Crawford, I consider him as having expected that I would take this in formation that he gave iqe into that body and it would be the means tif securing'ktfia cokfiitoationqi httsoomiijjttioni