Rural cabinet. (Warrenton, Ga.) 1828-18??, December 06, 1828, Image 2

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KKOllflU LKGISL \ njUK. IN SENATE. Friday , November 21, 1828. DIVISION OF LKK COUNTY. Ou motion of Mr. WILSON to re* rousiiler s< much of the journal of yesterday, as relates to the passage of tin* hill (o divide the county of Lfce and form anew county therefrom to be called Randolph. Mr. W ILSON Maid he was opposed principally, to the naming of the county after J din Randolph of Roa noke. Are there not revolutionary patriots, he remarked, who have ex isted? In tin* annals of the illustrious ded, arc there no names that would be preferred to his?—men, whose s* r viers and talents were equal, and who are, more entitled to the encomiums and the gratitude of the people? If we had desired to have selected a man am >ng those who are at present living, could we not in the limits of the Unit ed States, have selected a man who ” s more entitled to have that distin guished honor conferred upon him than John ILiiidolph?—whose talents ” ere superior—whose r* publican principle were more free from sus pieion? What lias he done to excite the admiration of the American peo ple, and entitle him to that tribute <nf respect? Tis true that he may be en dowed with a certain kind of talent, e\ euf.ririty; hut what important na tional measure, that has redounded to the honor of our country, has he ever P J *'du ed—li the whole course of his P <’• ’ I • ar*er, can there be a single in-* is.ire ,f national impirtance cited to it has reflected a lustre upon his country?—No—lie has been opposed to every administration of the general government, ever sin o the establish ment nt our constitution—ever since we had a political existence. S line tior s, ’tis (rue, be in y have been in the right; hut most generally in the wrong. ILit there is one trait in his political character, which should entail infamy on his name. What whs his conduct during the last strug gle of oifr country with Great Brit i•*? Was ho not opposod to the tlo- Ln oof our rights? Was lie found o liinating the councils of our country nod using his exertions against our inveterate foe, who menaced the de s<ruction us our political existence? N i—lie was doing all n his power to pralix • the arm of government. lie carried his opposition so far as even to vish success to the enemy of our country. Mr. W. Said he would ask if such men were entitled to receive this honor from our hands He trust ed, lor the honor of the state, that the bill would select some man whose imno and charactcrwas not so objec tionable. Mr. CRAWFORD of Columbia, sajjl he was surprised at the motion and object of the gentleman—He was surprised to think the gentleman should say that Mr. Randolph whs op p med to the struggle between our country aiul Great Britain. He wi ll know that before the commencement of the war, he ,went in opposition to the embargo and the declaration of w hot upon grounds very different l to those that the gentleman would Impute to him. But is it not known, tti a subsequent to the declaration of w at* he bid and fiance to the enemy of our country—-that he united heart Rii'lpand, in the d> fence of our rights, ami the dearest interests of our coun try. If lie th night improper to vote for an appropriation, he did it from the candor and honest feeling of his heart—But “here is the evidence that he was opposed to the war after irg commencement? If said Mr. C my recollection serves me the gentleman is incorrect. Dur ing the war Mr. Randolph entered personally into the contest, and strain ed ever) nerve as the champion of our rights. Mr. C. said lie was astonish ed at the hostility of the gentleman. Rut lie could divine the cause of it— lie could trace his hostility and illiber al fading to it* source. I consider, said Mr. C., Mr. Randolph one of the most consistent republicans. He bas been uniformly the warmest advocate for the interests of his country. True, lit; had been-- opposed to almost every administration—and doubtless in some instances was wrong—but it was an error of the head, and not t>f the heart. Mr. C. said he had not approved of Mr. R’s whole political course—but if we take his political career from beginning to end, we shall find that he has been as consistent a republican as the annals of our coun try has produced. He thought this a debt of gratitude to which he was en titled; His services in the cause of re publicanism laid i laitn, to the homage of every heart. The county of Jasper was first named after Mr. Randolph; And it was merely from caprice, from the whim of the moment, that it was changed. It was a momentary im pulse, occasioned by the violence of excitement that was at tho period pro duced, and which soon subsided. But ii was too late. At that moment Mr. R. was opposed to the administration, and this opposition created all that feeling whit Ii influenced our country men, and induced them to resort to a measure which w as without a rational cause. Trace his political course in relation to Georgia, and you “ill find that lie has ever been the champion t I her rights—that he has ever sympa tliiscd with her in relation to her injuries; Look at the cours he pursued with regard to the Yazoo speculation; that measure which has cast a stain on the history of Georgia; was he not bitterly oppos ed to it? Look at the recent contest be tween Georgia and the General Gov ernment; Did he not go hand in hand with our delegation through the whole history of that proceeding? Did he not warmly support every measure that was proposed by our delegation in Congress? If Mr. Randolph had been a member of the Hartford Con vention, no doubt, but the gentleman would have chaunted hosanna's to his name. If he had sustained Crowell, in his opposition to Georgia, no doubt he would have poured his encomiums plentifull) on his character; No; His hostility and illiberal feeling lias grown out of the circumstance of Mr. RN sustaining Georgia in all her difficulties; because he inanfullv opposed the General Government in i's unh illowed attempt to encroach upon the lights of a sovereign state. And will this Senate permit .the hostility of that gentleman to go that length? Mr. C. thought there was no dif ficulty in the question; he thought it \va? hut justice to name the county after Mr. Randolph. It was a debt of gratitude which we owed him; and we should em brace this occasion to discharge, in a measure that debt; to again reinstate him in the affections of the people. The rea son why the gentleman was so opposed to him; is obvious; he was from the East and hail brought all the feelings and prejudices of the East with him; It was his inveterate ennnty against the old dominion that in fluenced him, and was the source of all his hostility against Mr. Randolph. But when the gentleman speaks of talent, he will find himself in a minority—that Mr. Randolph possesses talent of the highest order must be admitted by every gentleman in this house, and he had no doub t that nine tenths of the people, how ever inveterate their enmitv was against j Mr. R would grant him that merit—As for talent, he stands preeminent in our country—and no gentleman can dispute it with propriety. Perhaps the gentleman would prefer that the county should be named after Gen. Newnan? For his part, said Mr. C. he was perfectly satified that the county should be named alter Ran dolph. He had been 30years in Congress and lie believed him as consistent a re publican as any gentleman in our coun try. He could not go wnh him in all his political course, he might have been wrong in numerous instances—but he would ask that gentleman, if he himself had always been consistent in his meas ures—whether he acted correctly at all times—whether he had not sometimes bfcen led away by feeling. Mr.C. tho’t that no gentleman who took an active part in public affairs could always be constant—could always be flee from bias on political subjects. Mr. Raudolph was a plain, open and candid man—and no one could doubt the course he pursued in political affairs. Mr. C'. hoped the bill would not be reconsidered. The yeas and nays were called for on a reconsideration. Yeas 15, Nays 49. So the Senate refused to reconsider. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Monday, Nov 24. The bill to amend the act to establish a Board of Physicians for the State of Geor gia, was taken up. Mr. Haynes was opposed to the pas sage of th* bill. The members of the board of Ph)*icians had been, he believed, constituted a board at their own request. And the fees now required from appli cants, he thought, were quite sufficient, vs they very seldom, he presumed, made that application with full pockets. Mr. Jeans differed with the gentleman from Hancock. (Mr. Haynes.) So far, he -aid, as his knowledge extended the in crease of expense to t he applicants, is on ly to remunerate the Board of Physicians for attending here and granting licenses. At the last meeting of the board, the a oount received did not half pay the mem bers for their expenses, while attending here. They received no compensation for their services. If they had received only enough to pay their bon id while here, they would have been satisfied- It is objected that young men applying for license, are frquintly, notable to <,ay —Is it not as hard that the members of the boa- and sbi-uld have to leave horn*’, and their business, and attend t<> the do ues of the b'ard, without receiving e nough to pay their expenses 7 It was uo reasonable, he thought to require this o them—A board of Physicians is e-tab b!ished by the state, the object of which is to m ike the profession rep j ctahle, ami to guard and protect the health, and the lives of our citizens. Yon must furnish some inducements for them to attend. If you refuse to increase the pi ice of a li cense to ten dollars—if you refuse to en able them to raise, at least enough to de fray their expenses while h re, the board sink in respectability, and respectable physicians will not take a seat in it. Heretofore they have only had five dol lars examination, and five dollars f u granting a license. The bill only propo ses to encrease the perquisites to ten dol lars. The sum he thought was altog th er reasonable, ami far less than is r* quir ed by other medical institutions. Mr. Haynes replied, that if Georgia has created a hoard of physicians to meet once in twelve months, and had made it their duty ao to meet, the state should pay them for their services He *aid he did not undar tand this system of chop logic, which would require physi cians to come here to guard the health and lives of the people of the country; and then compel applicants for admission to come here at their own expense, and, in addition to that, pay the expenses of a state institution? Then the state -h- old pay its expenses. If the state will not pay, and if these gentlemen are not sa tisfied with th° hsiior conferred, by giv ing them the distinction among their lei low men, resulting from holding a seat in the board, let them come here at their own expense. II they are to have pay —if they are to have salaries for doing the state’s business, let the stale pay their salaries. Mr. Holmes said that in all the medi cal institutions with which he was ac quaiuted, applicants for degrees, or for licence, are required to pay fom 30 to 50 dollars. Now, if the board of phyc-i nans of Georgia were to grant license for nothing, or fur a less sum than is u u al elsewhere, it would look very much like underselling others. V 4 hethrr the lund to be rais* and by the-e fi t* -In u and go to the board or not, was somber conside ration; he would leave that to the dis cretion of the state. He weu and h t the state determine. But he was dead, dlv in favor of the bill f r th- re:-m - tbit he had stated— —that nil otl er in: ti'u'icns requited from 301. 50dnlLrs; ami to re qutre less here would look like under-el ling them, and degrading both the state and the profession. Mr. Ryan said that if he understood the bill it was to encrease the fees from ten to twenty dollars—ten for examina tion and ten for a license. If the bill was read again the house would under stand it. He did not know that it was necessary to have a board of physicians. But it has been established; and now here is a bdl to encrease their p -rquisites; and if he was not mistaken, there was a bill somewhere to incorporate them too. He did not know to what use they intended to apply their funds when they got them; —but he must look with a jealous eye on all incorporations and privileged orders. I he bill was then read—providing that the fees shall be $lO for examination, and $ 10 for licese. Mr. Janes said, the gentleman from I Hancock seems not to be able to under stand the ‘chop logic’ of this case, and says it we want pay we must go to the statu for it—Sir, ggjd Mr. J. so far as mv knowledge extends, that geutlemau’s views are directly a f variance with pre ced* nt. In all the other states, the mem bers of institutions of this sort are paid bv perquisites. The University of Pa. is a state institution, yet young men there pav S2O lor ea h ticket, and there are 0 of them* For a diploma they pay S4O. I And they are required to attend 2 courses t! lectures. All this is something thrown upon students independent of their expen ses here. If students are able to pav 6 or 7 hundred dollars before they come here tor a license, is it a matter so very oppressive that it cannot he borne, that they shall pay g2O here for the privilege of pursuing the practice of their profes sion among u-*? Mr. Stewart thought that the institu tion of the Board • f Phvncians was an or nament to the state; but, said he, when. ) l: make th-*t board oppressive to rhe s ate, its benefits must all be lest. The tyalogv which was sought tube made be l-.- *en ibis nu other medical institution he bought was not a fair one. In a re *; dar insti utron you derive essential vtirfit. ILre there is no essential b< n etit received by those who pay for the pri vilege of practicing medicine. If you f ace young men here to pay heavy f ea tin s he privifge of practising medicine, • ou fierce them from nero fitting the siafe. \ -uog men who apply h re, are nine ca ■” s ou t of ten, pennyless. If you force ,h in to pa,) hi avy fees, you will deprive ti.e siate of their services altogether. Air. Carter hoped the house would sustain the b.d. He vvetdd inform the gentleman from Warren, and the house, that he had conversed with a gentleman who was on of the board, and he had been intoimed that ut th last meeting, the per quisites were scarcely sufficient to pay tor stationary. It will be recoil* c ted that these gentlemen receive no compensation foi then sei vices, and the institution was an important one for the character and s aiidmg of the stale—And before the bid is filially rejected, 1 do hope, said Mr C. that, some gentle-man will give some reasons, (with all deference to what gen tlemen have already said) why the bill shou:d not be pass* and. J Mr. Ryan said he was not vet convinc ed, notwithstanding all that had been said—He was not y et satisfied that the bill ought to pass—Gentlemen speak f bits us paper—certificates, diplomas—attend* a S . a ,L < T 9 , e ° f lectures,'and such tbir gs. And hat their they must come here to gel a license to kill or to cure us accord ing to law. He thought a great favor had been granted when a board was allowed to be firmed. Bat now they ask for a greater, which is to be the ground wcilr of a pecuniary fund. And then they are to get an a t of incorporation—Sir, incor porations are already too plenty for th* I übiic good. Yc t he d;d not dread them much ’tdi they got money. Th*-y are, however, to numerou*— whether bank in. corporations, or incorporations for inter na! ....pros ement, or for any thing else. \\ e have h. of log-rolling in legis lation-corporations, sir, may log-roll it In t.us ca>e hey have rien to S2O hat is a pretty extensive stride If t-ey warn to keep up the hoard, they r u-t agree to devote a littlejnf their time to it without compensation. He meant no ui&re.pei.t to th honnroble profession, but ,e knew men who had no raners. n r parci n.ent with aft of ribbon tied to it u.ih whom he would trust Ins life just a* soon as w ith any of > cur graduates. (Mane gent eman called out—‘reflec tions. ) said Mr. Ryan. 0 sir I make no nfloctr.c.s-I spe , k n 8en ’ tl . ments freely and undid-y, aid honestly, but pel haps a little too plainly. Permit this thing to go on—give them exclusive pmileges, aid men who have exh usied their little patrimony in qualifying them selves for the profession, will be compel led to succoti.b, perhaps, to them. M r K said he meant no reflections, but all men when they have power, will exercise favoritism. .. J h * (alien no ih bd|? and it was lost.