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ALEX. (JliijRoll, EDITOR
t ie vein ■ tl, Georgia, Juiy 17, lH.sa.
I3»„lu.f'.(etsi.vc BKMSbClMK
FOR L’RlfiSimC.NT,
WINFIELD S. HANCOCK,
OF 1‘KNNSVLV AN i A.
FOR VICE I*RE RlH-gX,
WILLIAM :! ENGLISH,
OF INDIANA.
—.—------
\v thought last week Ilia- we would
ho ohio to place Dr. Underwood’s arti¬
cles all before ‘lie public this week; but
or ..of boon unaoio to do so for want of
f pace. Ho has one more sboU ailMo,
vliioh w; h our comments will close the
matter. shall .-"dr nothing further
in refotenco ?<> ti- • c>r,L;;r until next
',ve. •;.
FUKIAC ^MEETING.
The democracy of White county arc
req jested to meet in the Court house on
< iiretTiv bay in A-;, m nnre , lor the
purpose of tnsnicating dole-rates to the
Congressional Convention to be held iu
Gf-iusrk; on the 10th da;’ i f August.
vv. 15. DELL Ch'r., Derr.. Ex. Com.
White County.
(. levelanp Ga., July 1 0th 1880.
doternor Brown’s Record.
At. Constitution of Juno 30, 1SS0.
It must have made all Georgians
proud to hear the distinguished trib¬
ute: tiff to Georgia's now Senator by
,
h ' 1 colk-uguos who wore at Cincinnati.
Senator Hill said in the Georgia
headquarters one morning: “Senator
Brown's speach in the Senate on tho
pension question was one of tho best
over delive odin that hall, and it should
he made a campaign document for the
Democratic party all over the union,
if our party managers a>-p wise they
will scatter that speech just as it was
delivered broadcast over the United
Slut. '. It will dispel delusions refute
glanders establish converts and make
votes overwore." Mr. Hill followed in
a warm and earnest tribute to his col¬
league in which he praised his discre¬
tion. his sagacity and his inflexible
patriotic sentiments.
Senator Lamar said to a representa¬
tive of tho Constitution-, “Tho ease and
dignity and power with which he estab¬
lished himself as one of the loaders of
tho Senate, n tho few days lie occupied
his seat, was simply manelous. in
his speech on Mexican pensions, he was
assaulted at once by Blame, Cockling
and Ingalls—three ugly customers, 1
cao tell von,, for an olu Senator to moot,
much less a now one. But Mr. Brown
never lost his balance an instant, lie
met them squarely, calmly and with
such force and frankness that Conk
ling ‘ • he sat down, said ‘j am con¬
vince.; the Senator is discussing this
Ola stio-i with fairness and candor.'
The eoc' ; was a groat one—not in
the nso of s lowy or tinge 1 eloquence,
bi • n the depth and breadth of its
statesmanship, tho wealth and apposit¬
eness of its information, and tho direct
and incomparable common sense and
common jos ice on vhich it was based.
Si nat< r Brown one of the
mo3t no: ,ble men in <] country if he
comes back o the no t session.
■- sn x Do of Indiana, reply¬
ing to T.quiry ri tho subject, said;
: of the most valuable addi
a ad. i to I ue Democratic force in
■ ;• re-re re for ,;-s. More than that
ire i. a hose influence wid
■ • Dir, all over the country. He seem
a; v> recount instantly upon coming
i‘ ■ Sun-i ere it was nor, a debat
i g '.mi strictly a practical bps
ire-re holy. He therefore became at
rnce ‘ sensible, siroightforward, saga:;
reus worker,* and won the confidence
and esteem r 1 oi .hlr- A of tho chain
i or. Ho ■ r r good in
tne preo.re,;i q--u:,rere - ;• must he
•v.’ticd how that sentimental issues
hav' died out."
Altogether our new Senator seems
to have made bin-sen wit in -'he Senate
and to have illustrated -Georgia nobly.
THE JURY FROi 18,
Mr. Editor: There so ■ to bn a
genora’ V i 3 rstandi inn law
in rog ir ; the •• revision c - Jurors,
unJer t; 1.3 new h-'Vtci ' ! X * . r rato,
Tire gen eral im pression : s’ ", f h, jury
fVJTiMUSirt '•T-- : i.-nsu pi ace ntol
>(i un: ; ; Li ' ire box.
This is •ui'o a •ni*t.do. ■ , r , of
the law us t« r! ace. si si:fiii - • i ember
d'jure,-: 3 for th* 3 purpose f irt.
j* there is {-.no u t par¬
pngj tnc oi'jacw of the lav s’ is fulfilled.
and t i? Unaeefc issary to se :ee: men who
have a i: Uvvfal excuse, or w h 1 from any
would not be -id ft > arve.
ro a p umber of ere on j who
use they * ( :ro a : solec
• i-.d-O amec west hro u out
, gi - r • cflvT 1 , , jl -•, irv box . This is t re, error. All
Xvo oaop es are t-l 5 row a out a ■ i - sufficient
number of es select".! and planed
uses to serve rr,; i now so lee-
tion is made, which is every two years.
Jury commissioners may, and do no
doubt make mistakes, hut they are
sworn officers of tho ia »v, ami do not
sustain the same relation to the public
as they do otherwise, Tho law does
not require all of the upright ami intel¬
ligent citizens, but a number sufficient
for the Court. Everyman is not chos¬
en as Ordinary, Sheriff, or Justice of
the Peace, aud if a man is not selected
to serve for one term ho ought not to
cmnplaiu, his turn will probably come
at the next, especially if ho continues to
be au upright and intelligent, man.
11 NTH ’I-’
White Co., July 7th. 1880.
Mi: Editor: And tho readers of the
Advertiser: 1 hear that some of your
Methodist brothron. are threatning to
drop your paper if our discussion contin¬
ues. My friends this is not right. Are
you afraid of investigation, truth gains
everything by investigation, imor
skulks away from the light of manly
discussion. Tho Baptist of this com¬
munity an tlio n«?t going to quit the paper
because of discussion, but will urge
others to take tho paper, we are anxious
for all to see the arguments on both
sides of this .question. Baptist do not
wish to injure the business of any one
on account of their religions opinions.
We aro quite certain that orror ce-isos
to bo eatigeions when truth is loft fro-.'
to combat it- So wo say on with the
discusion. (I heroin behalf of the Map-*
tist of this vicinity and all your Baptist
subscribers tender you our thanks for
the opportunity you unwitingly gave us
of speaking our views upon these union
meetings before your readers. It is
plain that you and your methodise
brethren have learned some facts since
the begining of the discussion that you
were profuudly ignorant of before.)
Sir, aa I did not have time in my last
letter to you to notice the communiea
tion of A Methodist, I now will giv f e
him a passing notice. And first lie
is ashamed of his effort, this 1 infir
from tho fact that ho hides his real name
behind a non,deplume. I also infer that
A Methodist is a school teacher, he coo
descends to teach mo gramm ir, and
makes known tija .fact that ho has stu¬
died grammar. This very learned
school teacher after his kind effort to
teach me grammar sets out Lv violating
one of tho rules of manly discussion.
If he did this from ignorance bo is to bo
pitied, if ho did it on purpose to hide
the real issue then he is to be blamed;
not to use a harsher word. (But sir
lie is man of learning) A Methodist
misstates my position in this, 1m says
that the only objection that 1 offer to
those union meetings is ibis, that tho
whole Gospel is not preached in them
When the fact is tho objection that 1
i make to them is that tho preachers
who engage in them agree for tho timo
being not to mention certain groat doc¬
trines that they believe to be a part
and parse! of tho Gospel, and therefore
in my opinion in effect fail to preach
tho Gospel at all. But our learned
grammarian actually soars to tho daz¬ did
zling highth of saying that,Christ
uot preach the whole Gospel in one
sermon. Why sir it does not take one
of the preachers of God long to preach
a whole Gospol when ho does not agree
in order to please men to keep back a
part of the Gospel. Bo soon human as lie does
this he begins to teach works
as tho way of salvation and the result
is there is no Gospel preached, and this
is the reason I assert that those union
i meetings aro a curse and not a blessing.
I But one voiy learned Grammarian says
that where the different denominations
! meet in union meetings that God more
abundantly pours out of his Spirit upon
i them, i hen you in effect say that a
mutilated Gospel is more effectual in
' saving sinners than a whole Gospel.
The Gospel is a whole truth, and one
of old said “if tho truth shall make
; you free you shall ho free indeed, but
you contradict this and say a part of
! the Gospol is better than a whole Gos¬
pel. What a nice thing it is to be a
; Grammar! m. I will give our learned
| friend (A Methodist) a scrap of history.
Somo timo ago a certain Sabbath school
was in need as they thought of some
catechisms and they took up a collection
and got some money and placed it in
the hands of Mr I. who was going to
Atlanta, iu due time the catechisms was
in hand, but horror of horrors, endorsed
: upon the hacks of these little books was
these words, Presbyterian Shorter Cat
| aebism. And what was more desperate
j still when brother M, began to read
j ! from the one seventh of these question books and and got down he
to answer
| found decrees this of lanuuage, God. Answer. “What “The are de¬ the
;
crees of God are, his eternal purpose,
■ according to the counsel of his will
: whereby, for his own glory ho hath
| foreordained whatsoever comos Sabbath to pass.
(Reader bear in mind the
I school aliuded to is a methodist school,
that people you know are loud in pro¬
claiming to the world that they aro not
sectarian and that they are more liber
1 al than other people ) Now tho ques¬
tion with tho brethren was what aro we
so do with these catacbisms, it will not
do to lot them come into our Sabbath
j school, here is horrid Galvanism taught
this will poison the minds of our
| children. What shall we do. one bro¬ and
ther suggests that John take them
1 try to sell them, willing to let others be
! poisoned if wo can get enr money back.
Well John did offer someof them, at least
for sale, but no one wanted to buy. so
the last we heard of the matter Brother
M. offered to pay tho postage unou t hem
if they would send them up to N. Now
brother A Methodist what does this lit¬
tle scrap ol‘ history teach--does it not
teach that i. 1 a .Presbyterian minister
who engages in one of these union meet¬
ings was to tell or preach what he be¬
lieves to be the whole truth as it is
Christ Jesus,, that the piethodist of tho
meeting wqulff break up the mooting
or cast out the Presbyterian minister
out of tho meeting. You will not dare
to say that error is less dangerous when
taught by preaching than it is when
taught by tho catechism will you! The
fact is these union meetings aro a de¬
vice of tho Jesuitical kind to fool Bap
list, and Babtist who aro deceived by
them aro not, wise, by going into such
meeting they In--so .character, influence
and numbers, and this our Pedo fiiends
well understand, hence their groat anx
ioty to decoy P ibtist into tho so called
union meetings 1 say with David.
‘Behold how good and how pleasant it is
for brethren to < w II together in unity! '
but sir how can two walk together
except they \ agreed, is it your idea
that we aro one when we never speak
iu presence of each other ot our differ¬
ent opinion.-G” And when wo aro apart
bo charging that tho other holds to
doctrines that is dangerous to the fu al
salvation of tho soul is th : s tlm unity
that David speaks of. Ni v.-rdy: A
t- 1 odist says that ho Las been a co \
stant reader of the Advertiser atm he
never noticed that the Editor ever
pressed Ids religious views upon his
leaders. Now 1 ask what, is tho fair
import of the following language.
‘There has been quite a revival of re
hgioti going on in Gaiiwvillo for some
timo. H see : s that Biplist, Methodist
and Presbyterians have united their
forc-s to ipnbat tho groat enemy of
souls. Tins t-7right, aud mi love to see
such united meetings. They always
prove which a b’essipg to tho community in
they are hold. Lot r.s have one
in Cleveland.'’ Now sir wh,at is tho
fair import of t(Tat the above language—does j
it, not touch those union meetings
are good things roligmuslv speaking.
S >m • of your readers Mr. Editor are of
a d fforent opinion, heuce tho present
di-cussion bet weou us. Let both, sides
be heard. A Methodist charges it upon
mo that I made a wicked assertion when i
1 asserted tljat father these than union meetings blessing, | j
were a curse a
sortions None but that a wicked wicked. man will I make here as j
are say ,
that made l am not surprised at this charge j
bv A Methodist. 1 expected this
mode of wai f're to be pressed by the
advocates ot*. these union meetings.
All who do Vv agree with them in
opinion are wicked servants of tho de¬
vil' <&e. None <ff these things move me,
orrorest of old said of my Iff sued Sa¬
viour, that lie cast out devils by the
prince of devils, and lio says to mo,
“if they do this iu the green uee what
will they do in tho dry tree/
1 see Mr- Editor in your last issue
you style me your antagonist, I antag¬
onize no person. I hero say to Observer
that Liia communication whilst it is not
to tho point in iesuo, that he manifats
no bitter spirit towards me. this is man
ly. So with this 1 dismiss him. I will
notice Yonah next weok. if something
that is looked for doos not happen
But woo to somebody if it does happen.
Mr. Editor fairplav is what the honest
people want. A. F. UNDEll.WOOD.
Mj:. Editor. I now proceed to no¬
tice; Yonah's articloq Yonah sets out by
saying in effect that, somo affirm for one
to preach tho Gospel all tho truths of
the Gospel must bo on all occasions
preached, nono affirm this to my knowl¬
edge. All can sec that his whole arti¬
cle is based upon this assumption. Any¬
one can see that, Yonah has totally
failed in the object he had in view. Ho
evidently meant to assist you Mr.
Editor in the discussion that wo are en¬
gaged in. But sir he missed tho point
under discussion so far that if tho point
had been suffering from sma'l pox he
Yonah would have been in no danger,
not tho least of contracting the disoaso.
(But I suppose that Yonah is a kind
hearted Local preacher and seeing your
distress, concluded to try to help y«ou
ail that he coaid, so you must accept
tho will for the deed-) In Yonah’s
stumbling around he did stumblo upon
this truth that to preach the Gospel one
must preach Christ and him erueiliod.
We have never denied this as all can u-o
who read my letters to you. But after
giving Paul credit for preaching Christ
ho then turns around and charges it
upon Paul, that ho was a sectarian.
For Paul did say to the Saints at Rome.
•For I am persuaded, that neither death
nor life, nor angels, nor principalities,
nor powers nor thnigs present nor things
to coine ; nor height, nor depth, nor
any other creature shall be able to sep¬
arate ns from tho love of God, - ’ And
in saying this taught tho God-honoring
doctrine of the final salvation of all woo
oueo believe in Christ. And this. Yo**
nail calls mere sectarian preaching.—
Yet this same Paul says to tho church
at Galatia, 1st eh. 8;b vr., “But though
we or ;m angel from heaven preach any
other Gospel unto yo i than that which
we have preached unto you, let him be
accursed.” Yonah seems to take the
absurd position that nothing is the gos
pel or any part of the gospel that men
differ iu opinion about. If this is true,
then there is nr. gospel and ibo world
is without a Saviour, and tho Bible is a
humbug -just what infidels toll ua that
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it is. Lot mo say to you, sir, in all good
feeling, that your lltio of reasoning is
well calculated to make infidels and is
now making infidels daily. Sir, permit
mo to ask you this question ; Will you,
upon any occasion, preach what you
boliovo to be a mere sectarian opinion ?
God help tho poor deluded man that
would dare to do it, ! Sir, I affirm that
God calls all who preach tho Gospel to
the work, and further affirm that lie
makes no mistakes, all that ho calls
preach tho Gospel, and do not preach
mere sectarian doctrines. I _wih most
gladly go into that meeting whore the
brethren aro ofono apeord, in one plac'e
to preach that ono Gospel. But sir
how different it is from this when men
come to ono place and agreo not to
preach wliat they believe to bo tho
whole Gospol, and then, cry out that
wo aro of ono accord. Q! what a farce
And there are men who will not join in
lauding such meeting as great blessing
to oo denounced as wicked, intensely
wicked sectarian bigots &c., &c,, by
these brothron who are advocates of
theso union meetings. Old what lovely
creatures they are. Yonah tells ua that
lie has heard quite a number of promi
nent Baptist preachers preach and pone
of them claimed to preach the whole
Gospel, (Well this is nows.) Therefore
ho argues for union meetings where
they will agreo not to preach what, they
believe to be a, whole Gospel. I will
here relate a little anecdote that illus¬
trates this whole question. Dr. Broad
us and a Methodist preacher were onco
holding a union meeting. Neither one
was to introduce anything denomina¬
tional. Broadns opened one day by
reading the (>th etiapter of Romans,
whereupon the Methodist charged him
with violating the contract by reading
a Baptist chapter. Now sir here is
where the rub comes in—none of tho
preachers who engage in these union
meetings i. esiro that the whole Gospol
should bo preached in them. This
would spoil their little game of pleasing
each other and the unthinking people.
And therefore they fail to preach the
Gospel at all, and the meeting is a curse
to tiie community. And if one should be
saved from siu who was attending the
meeting this fact is looked upon as
proof conclusive that the meeting is of
God. This process of reasoning will
prove that persecution of the Saints is
of God. None will dare in so many
words to affirm this. Why sir this only
proves the sovernty of God in tho sal¬
vation of sinuers and is all that it can
prove. Youah tryes to make mo say
that the persons converted at these un¬
ion meetings aro a curse to the commu
nity. My dear sir you miss tho mark
greatly in this. Paul was not a curse
to any community though bo was con¬
verted whilst persecuting tho Saints.
Gome brother, Yonah don’t beg the
question that way. God brought good
out of the wicked act of Joseph's breth¬
ren all will confess—but does this prove
the act was a righteous act. Can it
he truthfully said that tor ten brothers
to conspire against one of their brothers
to kill him, and then soil him into cruel
bondage by way of compromise is a
goiid act and a blessing because a sov¬
ereign God, work good out of the wick¬
ed act. Why sir the proposition is
monstrous. The point that tho whole
G ’spelis not preached in these union
meetings is yielded in the argument.
And tho Editor and his proxies are now
trying to sustain them upon tho idea
that, a little Gas pel is preached theiu
and much pnoing done. We.;; /.ir it iu
tho first time I have .ever learped tint
where men or preachers prayed much
that ther were relieved .from prem-.l.,; ig
a whole Gospel. But men are wise ij
theso duv-. they are frying tp improve
upon.Gods pi,-in. lie said go pm:pX
the gospel, men say hold union meetings
and keep Inc.ke some things iliac w.o
believe to he a part of the Gispol In
order not to offend any one—jjloase men
so that tho world will procslaqp in as
■ pr at and good men boe.ausu w.o d > not
offend the world The woild tyill Invp
its own these union meetings aro of tho
world lienee tho worhl'v press are loud
in their pra s,e Sjrmjo f the n o t amus¬
ing thing Unit lias i-hiiio under mv obser¬
vation js th;)t the Editor of tho Adver¬
tiser./, party to tins discussion continu¬
ally cries out no argument pi educed i>v
the Lev. JJr. U . And yet three non rte
plume brothron volunteer to help him
out iu the discussion. Is ic nuntv bre¬
thren when a man is down for three or
four otjier mon tn pounce upon him.
If tin- editor had already ll mrod mo in
the discussion wjiy this haste of A
Melhonisr Oteerver. and last ot all
this Locate V'nnah, to com - into the
fight. Semetliing in tho wind brethren
so now ii Yonah ro ts here I rest, article
for article is what I claim. If A Meth¬
odist rests'with article far article so 1
rest, I (bqnatni of the Editor even
handed justice. The pe >jale makes the
same demand. So ms body is getting
very tired of this dissussion, I knew at
tho stait that this would be the ra-o. it
ii not beet r.p hollow b foio one gots out
of the woods. Well brother Yonah I
close th is letter by wishing you well.
A- F. UNDERWOOD.
Cleveland Ga.
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