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THE ATLANTA GEORGIAN AND NEWS. WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 25, IDO’S
EDITED BY
SP PA™ G 1 ANOTHER UNE OF DOPE ON TECH AND VANDERBILT IP. H. WHITING
! NOT NEWS, BUT VIEWS
n
By PERCY H. WHITING.
Unless Dan McGugin performs n football miracle Vanderbilt
is not going to have anything likn the team this fall that it had
last.
The bunch that administered a moral walloping to Michigan
and the real thing to the Carlisle Indinns is a badly wrecked af
fair and it looks as though it would take a couple of years to put
it back in its old proud place.
The writer watched the Vanderbilt sqtind in action Monday
afternoon and while very little can be told in so short a time and
practically nothing definite until a game or two has been played,
still it is obvious that the Vanderbilt material is not what it was
last year.
The big weakness is going to be at the tackle positions and
at fullback.
Joe Pritchard and Owsley Manicr are men whose places can
not be filled by any men now on the Vanderbilt field.
Morton, a long, slatty gentleman from Ilrnuham and Hughes
School, is being worked at the full back position right now and
in some ways he “looks good.” lie is tall, fairly well built and
seems to get in the game with some animation.
It is n question which it will take work under fire to bring
out as to whether or not he is well enough muscled to stand tho
strain of the full back’s position. ,
The other new man in the back field threatens to he nenry
Williams, the ex-Gordon player. Williams is regarded as a bit
light for the place and he will have to work for his position, but
right now he is showing up well. He knows football and that
puts him in a class above most of tho new Vanderbilt material.
Two back field positions will be occupied by veterans—John
Craig at half and Costen at quarter. Craig is off-weight to an
alarming extent, but is hard as nailq and fast ns ever—which is
very fast.
With a new full back and n new hnlf back this year the vet
eran “Honus” is likely to have a lot of work to do.
Costen is the samo old near-bald-headed, wizen-up, old look
ing man as of yore—and still undoubtedly tho best Southern
quarter-back since the days of Frank Kyle. He is as cool-headed
a chap ns ever played in tho South, and the way he handles a
football—and tho team—is worth watching.
Stono was not out Monday, but ho will be on hand in a few
days and will very probably play center, though he may be shift
ed somewhere else in the line.
Right now the make-up of the line-up from center to the
ends is a matter of gravo doubt.
Of courso Rob Blake will play one end nnd Vaughn Blake
the other. Bob is now, as he has been since his college debut,
the best end in the South.
Vaughn has put on a lot of weight nnd threatens to rank
with Bob this year. Ho is n heady player and is coming around
in fine style. Bob will do the punting nnd place kicking this
year and Vaughn will be his substitute. Morton, the full back
candidate, seems to have some little ability ns a drop-kicker.
Of course McLain is another eertninty for the line. He is
extremely fat at present and can’t make much speed, but Mc-
Gugin’s methods of “Keep it going, boys,” will soon tak»off tho
surplus. If he can develop speed nnd aggression he will doubtless
mako
all-Southern this year—which he didn’t last.
But that ends it ns far as certainties go.
Sherrill, one of the most-talked-of candidates, will never do.
He is hewed out along the classic lines of n keg nnd his running
is like that of a suck of meal. Also he is too everlastingly good-
natured. He will practice all day with a foolish grin on his face
—and the smiling variety of footbalt players have gone out. The
game is too serious for them.
Gowan and Griffiths arc being tnlked of ns tackles. If they
make good and nre the best ever it is an awful proposition to
have n green pair of men in that position, -a
A man who is not being talked of any, hut who looks good,
is Haslock. This man has been in Vanderbilt two years, but
has not been allowed to play oy his parents. This year, how
ever, it is thought that he will be able to get in the line-up. The
Nashville papers are keeping very quiet, about it, however, for
fear that his parents will Hgain “put their feet down.” Haslock
looks rather like old “Red" Taylor, who played so aggressively
in the line for Tennesseo, and Vanderbilt, and will doubtless put
up the same kind of a game. He is one of the long, slim, alert
players and lie will certainly make the opposition hump if he
gets in the game.
Campbell, the man who wns counted on ns n full back, will
probably turn up at St. Louis University. The entrance require
ments at Vanderbilt arc said to be too stout for him. However,
McGugin has not quite given up hope.
The Commodores nre, just at present, shy nn assistant conch.
Frank Kyle wns counted on, but has not shown up. At present
McGugin, Craig, Bob Blake and some of the veterans are doing
what they can to develop a scrub team which will give the var
sity an argument. . \
It is a shame to see tho Vanderbilt team of 1906 broken up.
That new back field, no matter how good it may become, will
lack the balance of the 1006 combination and the shoes of 0.
Manier nre not likely to be filled in many moons.
What McGugin can do with the new mnterial is a matter
worth careful consideration. He hns some big men, but the ones
with the weight are the very ones who have the least football
knowledge and apparently the least football sense.
Those new men grab at the ball awkwardly, fall on it in
gawky style, run like those unproficient at the art, nnd are more
or less raw, inapt and generally left-handed.
In these men lies Vanderbilt’s problem. If Dan McGugin can
take the heat of them and build up football players he will ac
complish a miracle.
And he will have to hurry, for the Navy comes October 12.
MERCER BEGINS PRACTICE
UNDER COACH SCHENCKER
With J. H. Schracker to coach the
Mercer eleven this fall, everybody Is
looking for . team far superior to the
one which represented the Baptist In
stitution last fall.
Coach Bchencker comes to Mercer
fr.m the University of Texas, where
have a splendid team this year.
Yesterday really began the fall’s
practice. The largest squad of the
season was out. The coach officially
announced that all candidates must go
In training regularly. ,At present Scog-
111 UUHIIIB it*Kuiuriy. yAl present SCOf>
gin. liuit year’s left tackle; Shaw, cap
tain and fullback of last year’* team;
he turned out a team ia»t year that iW 0 ?* Former, Mallory, Duncan,
lost only one game. This was under £ poison. Jameson Sutton and D.
Parker, of the scrubs last year, corn-
only one game. This was under
great disadvantages, as the team rode
l.SOO miles and played the mighty
KaahvtUe.
’■Vandy” team at
- M A-.? chen ' •w "as on the Yale team
of 1105 and HO->ed to bring his team
through mail- .lories, Considering
his record „■ Vj.e, combined with that
a " -tul year’s work at Texas,
there is no iieason, so far as the coach
“ voncerneif, why Mercer should not
V
pose the old men whoJAve reported.
Landrum, who played fullback for
Boys’ High Bchooi, Atlanta; Bell, of
Locust Grove; Spurlln, H. IMrker
Knight, Boxeman and others look good
just at s glance.
There are several candidates for each
K iltlon. At center Chapman and
Ight are working hard. D, Parker,
FOUR MEMBERS OF THE TECH SQUAD
HARD WORK
AND EXAMS!
"PIGGY” HIGHTOWER.
"SOLDIER” COFER.
JACK SPALDING. GEORGE SPEARS.
Here are four men who are practicing daily with the Tech team, Hightower is a Chattanooga boy, who played good football with tho Tech team
last year. Hs is a bit light, but vary fast, Cofsr is the big soldier, who played with the Fort McPhcrion team. He has weight and speed and ought to
make a good half back. Spears and Spalding are members of tho scrub team, who may make reputations for themselves later.
These Are the Stunts Out
at Tech These
Days.
HEISMAN AFTER
ASSISTANT COACH
Hall of Swarthmore May Be
Secured—Scrimmages
Are “On."
Scrimmage work, examinations and
the hunt for an assistant coach are
In enrnest at Tech.
And the combination Is wearing out
Coach Helsman and telling on the play,
era'.
BOWLERS
GET BUSY
Old Rivals Clash in Opening
Battles At Case’s
Alleys.
The bowling season of 1907-’08 will
be ushered In Wednesday night, when
the Atlanta Bowling Team locks horns
with the Georgia Railway team for
throe games on tho George W. Case
alleys.
With the advent or cooler weather
the boys will round Into form, and tho
bowling fans of the city will be treated
to a season of good bowling.
The Atlanta team Is beginning Its
fourth season and It may be mentioned
thnt It wns not defeated last season,
although It bowled practically every
promlnont team In the South.
This team won the Southern Bowl-
e to take care of Itself.
There will be a number of teams,
composed of live men, In the city this
season, and a committee Is now at work
organising a city league. The teams
already formed are:
The Atlanta, Georgia Railway, Ath-
Ictlet, Soldiers and Piedmonts.
These teams are nil composed of good
bowlers and arc able to give their op
ponents a warm reception. Games be
gin Wednesday night at »:20. The pub
lic Is cordially Invited.
"1 lost s gold bracelet out of s esr win
dow. I placed a 30c want advertisement In
The Georgian sml got It hack.” A want nd
and 40e box of Wiley’s candy, 30c, Friday
nnd Saturday.
BURNS CHALLENGES
AL CHRISTENSEN.
Sporting Editor Atlanta Georgian:
I wish to challenge Al Christensen
for n wrestling match, to take place at
any time In the nenr future at any
place where a suitable purse can be se-
cured. KID BURNS.
TECH REGULARS
PLAY RECRUITS
The Ter': regulars and the Tech re
cruits will play a game Saturday aft
ernoon, which wilt open the football
season for Atlanta.
White this game will be more or less
of the faculty will bo admitted free.
Just how the teams will line up has
not been announced, but on one side
will be last year’s regular players and
scrubs and on the other will be an
eleven composed of the new men.
BENEFIT
BATTLE
of n practice affair, ndmlsslon will be some of the best of Tech’s material is
charged to all except Tech students, [among the new men. the game Is'likely
These men can secure admission free
on matriculation cards. All members
. , y
to bo more even than would appear at
first glance.
FINAL STANDINGS OF
SOUTHERN PITCHERS
How the Twirlers Finished Up the Season,
and Our Dope on the All-Southern
Slabmen.
The Anal dope on the standing of the
pitchers In the Southern League Is sat
isfactory to Atlantans, for It shows Moc-
kenxle, of the Cracker elan, on top. and
Caatleton, of the same brigade, tied
with Guese for the leadership nmong
the regulars. Zeller Is third among the
regulars, Spade sixth and Ford seventh.
And Schopp, who Is nn ex-Atlanta
man and who will be with Bill Smith’s
corps next year, Is second among the
pitchers of the league, being led only
by ’’Corkscrew Scotty" Mackenxle.
question of the pitchers of the ull-
WIRELESS CLEAR
TO EUROPE SOON,
SAYS MARCONI
will rrinnlu hor«‘ until wlrcIrMii rommnnlrn
tlnn with Europe him Iiren put n blinked on n
commercial ImihIm. II* expect* this will lie
done within three week*
lie Minted that the average apeed lined In
minute, and that the rate would \*e 10
a word for ordinary ootnmerela! nieiwageii
and 5 rent* a word for nreaa dleputi he*.
Thla rate, be aald, would be cut In two
The meaaagea tent In the atatlon nt Glace
Hay will !*e received on the other aide of
the Atlautle at Cllfdeif, Ireland, where a
new* plant baa been.eatnldlnhrd.
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00000000000000000000000000 j Southern team which the writer atarted
I to plqk some time back.
We have long had a sneaking notion
■•WHITEY" GUESE.
He tied with Cnstleton for first
plare among the Southern League
pitcher*.
Scoggln, Dunaway, Mallory, Salter,
Sudderth, White, Farmer, Ball and
Gellespte are lighting hard for the line
positions. Melton; H. Parker. Spurlln,
T. Farmer, Melton, Boxeman and Sud
derth arc making the race warm for
the ends. At quarter Jameson. Sutton
and White have It. The back field has
a many-sided contest, with Shaw, Lan
drum, Newman. Griffin, Nicholson and
Malone as the chief contender*.
(ley's candy, Me, Friday
that the real teat of a pitcher’s merit
was h|s ability to win games. We have
never sympathised much with the
claims of those who put Suggs, for ex.
ample, on the all-Southern team, be
cause he was such a wonder.
It Is,, hard to see what help fancy
curve* and marvellous control are to a
man provided they do not win game*
for him, especially when, he la on the
team that finished second In the league
race.
Bearing this In mind, the writer
would put Caatleton, Guese. , Zeller,
Wilhelm and Ford on his pitching staff.
Over Caatleton there can be no ar
gument. He Is the best pitcher In the
league, and as good n left-hander as the
league has had since Breltensleln's lire
went out. Curves, control nnd nerve-
all these things Roy had In good meas
ure.
But Guese nnd Zeller—the "Yellow
Streak Twins"—do they "belong?" We
think yes. Maybe they haven't enough
nerve between them to start a nerve
factory, but they won games. Up to
the time that overwork put Zeller to
the bad he was quite Invincible, and
after that he was a fairly satisfactory
■pitcher.,
Guese Is an old wonder. Let him get
a good start and npbody can hit him.
Besides, he has the most marvellous
control In the league and ran win
games somehow. Now nnd then he
gets his wallops In awful style, but he
will win enough games to help some.
Wilhelm gets a job easily. On a
weak, disorganized team he pitched
great ball, and with Atlanta or Mem
phis would have come near leading the
league.
Ford gets the job because he Is the
best spit-ball artist In the league. The
only man who has an earthly chance to
get the place away from him Is Bob
Spade—and It hurts to leave Bob off
the team. On his form at the close of
the season he could outpltch any man
In the league. Moreover he could hit
anil field. As a utility man he had
only one equal in the league—Sid Smith.
If Shields had pitched through the
whole or even a large part of the sea
son he . would doubtless have won a
place on (he team. But not much could
be told by what he did In ten games.
The final average* of the pitchers
follow:
Game Between the Amateur
Champions Should Be
a Hummer.
That the fans of the city were going
to see some fancy amateur baseball
and that the Old Ladles' Home was
due to get a boost was assured St soon
as It was announced that the Sun
Proof team, winner of the pennant In
the Commercial League, and the Carter
& Gillespie team, winner of the pennant
In the City League, were due to elash
for tho city championship.
This game should really be a big
event. Both teams arc made up of
fast ball players and should put UP *
great fight for the championship of
Atlanta.
On the strength of having Ed La-
fitte, who is really a big league pitcher,
the Carter & Gillespie team rather has
nn edge on the Sun Proofs, but Harry
Harmon, the Commercial League star.
Is no slouch, and he will be backed up
by a team which has hit tho ball and
fielded In fine style all the season.
The friends of both leagues—and they
are very numerous—will be out In
force to see the champions battle, and
they will be reinforced by the fans
who want to see the game played nnd
by the people who want to help along
the Old Women's Home.
The game Is to be played Saturday,
and starts at 3 o’clock.
I lost a gold bracelet out of a ear win
dow. I placed q 30c want advertisement in
The Georgian nnd got It hack.'' A wont ml
* ”V* 1v of Wflnv'a I'nnilv 9IV> FpIJhv
WHERE THEY PLAY TODAY.
National,
Philadelphia nt Chicago.
New York nt Pittsburg.
Itrcsiklyn st St. I/mls.
(iuelunall nt Boston.
E. Duggan, Nashville
Keith. Little Rock . .
J. Duggan, Nashville .
Hickman, Shreveport
Breltensteln, N. O. .
Yerkes, Nashville
Oraham, Shreveport ... .11
Purdue, Nashville . . . . . I
W.
.17
Mnckensle, Atlanta .
Schopp, Nashville. .
Shlc'ds, Memphis . .
Cat ton. Atlanta. .
Ouom, New Orleans.
Zeller. Atlanta 1*
Crlstall, Memphis 12
GaskMI, Shreveport. . . .12
Wilhelm, Birmingham. . .19
Spade, Atlanta 18
Walters, Little Rock .... 3
Ford, Atlanta It
Bills, Memphis 18
Maxwell, Montgomery . .14
Fisher. Shreveport 11
Clarke, Birmingham . . .17
Fritz. New Orleans
L. Pc.
2 .818
2 .750
3 .700
8 .680
8 .680
9 .679
6 .667
.633
.633
.600
20.600
11
12
Fritz. New
Phillips. New Orleans
k . .
Kyler, Little Rock
Suggs, Memphis . . .
Stockdale. Memphis . ,
Malarkey, Montgomery
Beeker, Shreveport . .
.14
.16
Sorrell, Nashville
Reagan, Birmingham .
Walsh, Montgomery ,
Manuel, New Orleans
.593
.593
11 .560
8 .550
14 .548
11 .542
12 .538
11 .536
15 .631
11 .631
9 .526
11 .522
4 .600
10 .474
It .467
20 .459
It .448
CLOSE IN AMERICAN LEAGUE
PHILADELPHIA.
Tied with Detroit.
8 points ahead of Chicago.
19 games to play.
12 games at home.
With Detroit 4, Chicago 2, Cleve-
Detroit 4,
land 3, New York 2, St Louis 1.
• 7 games abroad.
With New York 1, Boston 1,
Washington 5.
DETROIT.
Tied with Athletics.
8 pointr ahead of Chicago.
15 games to play.
N Nc games at home.
.15 games abroad.
With Philadelphia 4, New York
1, Boston 2, 81. Louis 4, Washing*
ton 4.
CHICAGO .
8 points behind Philadelphia.
8 points behind Detroit.
12 games to play.
2 games at home.
With Cleveland 2.
10 games abroad.
Witl. Washington 1, Philadelphia
2, Detroit 2, Cleveland 1, New York
3, Boston 1.
Turner, Birmingham
Weems, Montgomery . .
MeWeller, Birmingham.
.429
.429
.421
.400
.400
.417
.399
.364
.236
.280
.000
‘ ,,t . K ° ne ‘han the strain before
the biggest game of the year-thl,
watting to see -what examinations do
to us.” said Coach Helsman Wednev
day afternoon. "We can’t help beiq.
uneasy until they nre over.”
Right now Coafh Helsman has a
marvelously good squad of men—big
strong, fast and willing workers. If
they can par, their entrance examina
tions or dei.iollsh the conditions that
might keep them off the field, then
the coach can feel sure of turning out
a good .team. But the examination,
may cut down the slxe and strength of
tho squad very materially.
No assistant coach has been scrured
ns yet. Hall, of Swarthmore, had been
practically engaged and seemed very
anxious to come, but recently nothing
has been heard of him. He may come
or ho may not. If he docs not, some
body else will be secured. The assist-
ant coach will handle the scrub team
and will devote his energies to building
up a machine for Helsman's regulars to
tear to pieces.
Scrimmages have been the order
since Saturday. Tuesday afternoon
there was a warm engagement be-
tween tho first team and .the scrubs and
hair flew.
"Chip" Robert and Charley Sweet
of them will doubtless see their
best soason this year.
was worked at half and show
fairly well. He has a good deal »
learn, notably about following Inter'
ferencc, but he will learn It all right
and ought to have a place cinched. ■
Hill played a nice game at end and
i like n regular this year. Ruchan
looks .
an Is showing up well and may be given
the quarter back Job, and Robert shift,
ed to end. ,
year.
No possible line can be got on the
team ns yet. Coach Helsman Is shift
Ing the men from one position to an
nnythtng definite will
tho arrangement of the men.
Standing of the Clubs. !
.CLUBS—
Philadelphia . . ,
Detroit
Cblcaco . . . • •
Cleveland . . . . ,
New York . • • •
Botton
Hf. Loala . . . . ,
Washington . . •
l’Ittfttmrir . .
Sow York . .
I'hlludelphla .
Brooklyn ,
Cincinnati 142 SO K
Bouton 139 53
8t. Louis 142 44 M
TUESDAY’S RESULTS.
American.
Now York 4. Cleveland I
Chicago 8, Philadelphia 3.
Detroit 8, Bouton 1
St. Louis 10, Wnnblnffton 1
National.
Ittslmrg 0/
rinrlnnntl 16. Bouton
Brooklyn 6. St. Lnuln 1.
Cblcflgo-i’hilnrlelphla, postponed; <*old.
WHY NOT SI6N ITT
To the gentleman who wrote to til
a lot of questions about the pre ,en ‘
location of Jimmy Smith, Frank, ad
Powell and some others:
The Georgian pays no more nttentlM
to unsigned queries than It does to un
signed communications.
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