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J inn i ij AIN'T A itwriui a:u; ixrjTrrj. i .nunoiiAi, i\v/\ CjAIDLIX H« iiA/i. SP ?K ,G I THINGS ARE WARMING UP IN THAI Rll NGI :R” SCANDAL life GEORGIA TEAMS HOPE TO DO WELL SATURDAY Local Players Set New Rec ord in Scrimmage Stren- uosity. (TECH) The Tech team on Wednesday after noon went through the moet arduoue practice that ever waa let looee on Tech field. Exactly 156 downs were played. To realise what this means you have to understand that in an ordinary game not over loo downs (or plays If you preffr to call them such) are made. And at no time thl« year has there been such an encouraging practice as that of Thursday. The Tech players seem at last to realise that It Is going to be possible to hold Vanderbilt very close, and they went Into the practice ns Coach Heleman hopes they will go Into the Vanderbilt game—with a vim 1 and daah that will produce results. From the time the scrubs lined up until the 115th play saw a new record set for Tech strenuoualty the game went along with a vigor and bustle that made the eyes stand out of the heads of the onlookers. Every man played like a demon, and though the strong scrub team was , keyed to the utmost, the ‘varsity frisked ! up and down the field, carrying the ball : wherever and whenever they pleased and holding the rushes of the scrub backs as though these husky youths bad been crippled children. Johnson Goes, Too. And this stirring scene waa pulled off despite the fact that Johnson, the ,husky Sweede, with whom Coach Hols, man made the "umpsteenth” attempt to fill the fullback's shoes, did not ap pear for practice, and will not be In the Vanderbilt game and perhaps not In ! any others this season. Gordon Smith was again absent from the work, but he came out to the field and reported that because of a painful but not serious Injury received In Sat urday's game he had hot been out for three days. It Is expected, however, that he will be on hand for the work 1 Thursday, and there Is little question . but that he will make the trip to Nash- vllle. Nor were these the only bad sytnp- > toms. Clyde Brown again hurt his In jured hand and wag out of the game for a while, and Sweet, though he man aged to hobble around, was In no shape for the game. To flO Johm . waa sent to fullb ; year’s fullback, was put at half. In Gordon Bmlth'n place In the line ' Inman Bell, a llneeman last year, was used. 8orimmaged Like Fiends. And with this ortnnled bunch the Tech team put up the moet spirited scrimmage of the year. Urged on by Coach Hetaman, and the team's two noted cripples, Buchanan and Robert, the bunch romped up end down the Held like a lot of frisky colts on a cold day. And on the form the team showed Vanderbilt Is going to be held close and given an awfully good game. There Is no question about that. The Tech team Is' aroused and going strong, and will mako Vanderbilt hustle to keep ahead. The Tech players feel that they have the third beet team In the South, scores to the contrary notwithstanding, and they expeot to demonstrate that fact to the people of Nashville next Saturday. Hill Will Play. It Is deOnltely settled, by the way, that Hill will be In the game at end Saturday. Whether he wilt atay through Athens Team Will Work Hard to Down Clem- son. (U. OF GA.) Hpeelal to Tbs Georgian. Athens. Ga., Nov. 14.—The unex pected holding of Sewanee to two touchdowns and a place kick Monday has Inspired the Georgia team with confidence, and hoe Increased one hun dred per cent the Interest of the stu dent body In the remaining games of the season. It was the general opinion before the gome that Sewanee would be some what broken up after the Tech game, but that nevertbeleas she would win by live or six touchdowns and then possibly have time to spare. The good condition of the team upset the flret belief and the second was knocked sky-high by Sewanee’s light score. It Is safe to say that one touchdown would have been easily averted but for fumbles of punts by Georgia. Gerogla’s offense was weak, no In terference being In evidence at any time. Otherwise, Sewanse’s goal might have been crossed, as there were several fair, chances to score. On to Atlanta. At Athens the universal cry Is "On to Atlanta, and down with Clemson!" Coach Whitney Is working overtlmo to strengthen the weak points that show ed up In the Sewanee game, and he hopes to give the South Carolina Ti gers a score at least. The men on the team have responded readily to tho eoach'a call for a superhuman effort, and are ready to repeat the Bewaneu performance. However, no matter how strong a defense the team may have, It ran not hope to win unless the offense Is strengthened materially. There seems tittle hope of doing this, Coach Whitney has no new backs to work In, and his present back field has shown poor form so far. Players Are "Stove Up." Georgia's hospital Met Is still much In evidence, although not quite so large as formerly. Woodruff Is In poor shape, but hopes to mako the Clemson game. He was not oven In uniform at the Sewanee game. Captain Smith and DeLaperrlere sustained Injuries that will seriously handicap them dur ing the rest of the season. Lastly, Har man Is probably out of the game now for good, as Ills doctor has positively forbidden him to play. A goodly assemblage of students will be on hand for the affair with Clemson, although the crowd that at tended the Tech game will he diminish, ed greatly. The fact that no hollday w|ll be given, aa was the case before, will prevent the presence of many. Tho cadet band wilt probably go Along, but It Is not certain. CHATTANOOGA HIGH SCHOOL PLAYERS ^From loft to right), Broxton, a stoekyjsd weighing 160 pounds, who it fast and strong enough to play with anj^ minor college in tho South. .0 pounds, who is fast and strong enough to play with any minor college in the boutn. next group ihowe the beck field. The players are (beck row), Roulston, right half; McAllister, fullback; Crouch left half. (Front row) Cochrane, quarterback; V.'iLon, quarterback. Thia aggregation ie strong and fast. The playere are well drilled at the new gems and are liable to break up a contest at any time with a apectacular plunge or broken-field run. The next group is the line from tackle to tackle. The players are (back row): Miller, guard _ „ On the extreme right ie Captain Reulaton, the lad who made sue! ey are celled the "Little Vendy’e,” and they make up the weight o .... . . . ..... . h a favorable impreeeion in Barnesville last year. Way, guard; Swofford, tackle; Gilbert, center; Braxton, tackle; f the team. to the Thanksgiving Day game another matter, but he has won the right to go to Nashville and he and Jones will hold down the end positions In the Vanderbilt game. There have been no changes in the Tech plans. The team, 6 or 7 substi tutes, Coach Helsman, Athletic Direc tor Randall and a select bunch of root ers wll) leave Atlanta Thursday night, breakfast at the Tulane Friday morn ing. go through signal practice on Dud ley Field Friday morning, rest Friday afternoon, play the game Saturday aft ernoon and leave for Atlanta Sunday morning. NOT NEWS, BUT VIEWS v reeeeeeee.eeeeesee.eeteeeeeeeee.se.eeee.ee; Vindicated, by heck! Since the football season began the writer, has been on the trail of the University of Georgia football team. His disapproval of the methods used by Georgia and his dis gust at the empolyment of ringers has been freely expressed. Since the Georgia-Tech game he lias been on the trail of the story that The Nashville Tennessean used on Tuesday and which The Georgian first gave to its renders Wednesday. He was morally eertain of about what Rice published and considerably more. But a man has to be “immorally” certain in the newspaper business. As it happened The Tennessean did not have the facts exact ly straight and the. complete story of Georgia’s disgraceful at tempt to beat Tech has not yet been given to the public. But the place that the above-mentioned “vindication” comes in is that everybody now knows to be true the condition of things thnt the writer got himself decidedly disliked for merely hint ing at. They said he “had it in for Georgia,” that he was “Wind iu his regard for Tech” and they made his life something of a bur den with “blessings-out” by mail,and otherwise. CLEMSON EXPECTS TROUBLE SATURDAY Speatel to The Georgian. Clemson College, Nov. 14.—Clemson was surprised at the fight the Unlver- • elty of Georgia put up against Sewanee, and Clemson la likewise taking notice. Up to last Monday the Tiger camp wan regarding the game with Oeorgta rallicr as a certain victory, and more a* a preparation for the fierce struggle with Tech on Thanksgiving Day. Now things look quite different. The feeling la that It will never do to be caught napping and thereby lose to the Athena bunch. The game Monday Ie therefore looked on as thr hardest fight of the ■ season. There Ie mill a hope that Clemaon may land the victory, but there le no denying the fact that the Tiger camp la In a state of nervous ex. pectancy that borders on uneaalneaa. Coach Bhaughnesaey fully realises what hla team will be up against and he Is making strenuous efforts to be prepared for any emergency. The victory of Davidson over Clern- eon came aa a surprise, notwithstand ing the fact that it waa well known that Davidson had a strong teem and had tied Virginia. In thr first half of the game cTemson greatly outplayed Davidson, but something went wrong with the Tigers In the second half, for Davidson easily outplayed them. Gaston, the big right tackle, was out of the game In the second half, and Colee was out entirely. The absence of these men weakened the team con siderably. Colee was badly hurt In a practice recently, but It is Imped that he will be In the game against Georgia Monday. Allan, wbo at right half has a repu tation for running, did spectacular work last Saturday. With Just a little bet ler Interference he would have made i touchdown once or twice. McFadden did some brilliant work and le In fine trim for the Atlanta con test. Captain McLaurin will try very hard to win a victory that will offset the setback Georgia gave hie cube In Augusta. Clemson has been defeated twice (his year rather unexpectedly—by Tennes see once and by Davidson. She will not be taken by surprise again, at leaat not Saturday by the University of Georgia, for she is looking for the hard est fight that has ever taken place with that Institution. The showing made by the Athena team against the powerful Sewanee machine Is regarded aa the result of the pluckiest spirit shown on a football field this season, and everybody knows how much de pends on the spirit of the men. The contest Saturday between Clem, son and Georgia will likely see the two teams at their very best, certainly Clemson will fight to the bitter end for victory. Jeffries' Clerical Father Says Jim Is Out For Good Potts vine. Pa.. Nov. 14.—Rev. A. C Jeffries, accompanied by his wife, daughter and the latter's husband, of ’ I-os Angeles, the flret named being the father of James J. Jeffries, the heavy weight champion of the world, who are touring the East, were the guests of County Treasurer R. C. Lee here today. The Rev. Mr. Jeffries stated relative to bis' son entering the prise ring again that there was nothing In such ru mors. He'said that the offer of a Jlo,- 000 purse by Johnson, or even the dou bling of that sum would not tempt “Jim” to appear In the roped arena again, he haring pledged himself to his parents to quit the ring forever. Frank Yokum, pacer, who (or which) won more half-mile records than any other horse that ever mounted' In a feed box. has croaked, and now Ches ter. Pa., has to stir up a riot to get Its name in the paper. And now all the South knows about, it and doubtless the Uni versity of Georgia backers will deeide that Grant Rice of The Tennessean; Alex Lynn of The Constitution; Walter Taylor of The Journal; Billy Ewing of The Nashville American; Joe Curtis of The Chattanooga Times, and the rest of the sport-writing fra ternity of the South, “have it in for them” because they tell of the awful state of affairs in and about the Georgia Athietie As sociation. A week ago the writer believed that tho argument was dead. The “ringers” were gone from the Georgia team, the Tech game was a matter of history, the Georgia Athletic Association was practically pledged to a change of coach and policy next season, ami there was fear I hat a continued agitation would bring legis lation of some kind that would not discriminate between pure and impure athletics. Also, and this was the big point in the eyes of a newspaper man, the general public was not especially interested and it is n poor sporting editor who feeds his readers something their appe ars do not call for. But this business has assumed too big proportions to be neg lected. For the snke not only of the University of (teorgiu but of the whole South it is time that something was done. You might write one million articles on the purity of South ern athletics and not one of them would be published outside Georgia, and probably not over one there. But uncork one about athletic rottenness and it will reach the eyes of several million readers. And those people who ar&in no position to know any better will take it for granted that athletic conditions in the South are accurately mirrored in the University of Georgia. We can not believe that there was any actual conspiracy among gamblers to bring to Atlanta a team to heat Tech. A lot of men with more money than sense and with a misguid ed idea of college spirit went out after a bunch that would down Tech. When they thought they had the real goods they naturally bet on it. That they have learned a wholesome lesson is probable. The amount of money cleaned up by a few backers of Tech was decidedly staggering in amount and this money was lost, to a large extent no doubt, by the very men who paid the Georgia “ringers.” The men who tried to put through this deal are doubtless ab solutely honest in all business dealings. Probably the ethical side of springing a team of “ringers” on Tech, after betting money on the game, probably did not occur to them. But it is time to realize that the difference between a deal like that and actual dishonesty is not very great. Now one thing you can put down as practically eertain: THE S. I. A. A. IS GOING TO BLACKLIST GEORGIA. Under the circumstances there is nothing else for the body to do. This means no intercollegiate athletics for Georgia for two or three years at least. That ought to give the University of Georgia plenty of time to think it over. The writer is not disposed to criticise Professor Holmes, who passed on the eligibility of the Georgia players before the Tech game. A district vice president of the S. I. A. A. is little better than mi athletic judge. He can hear evidence and act on what is furnished him. As we understand his job that is about all he can do. • Perhaps the S. f. A. A. would do a better work if the district “v. p's” had a bit more power. But this fact is not going to save Georgia and a S. I. A. A. blacklist seems certain. VICE-PRES. HOLMES, OF S. I. A. A., PRESENTS HIS SIDE OF THE CASE Marnn, G«.,.Nov. 13, 190?.-1*. II. Whiting, Atlanta, 8lr: I hove Juat road Grgntlam! Illri'** »!n!*mi*nt with rrfi»ren<*p to the Georgia football team. In the Hrat place, wo all wlah Mr. Hire had furnlahcd hla Information earlier. The trouble he complain* of could then have been easily corrected. It la not my Intention to defeud the athletic policy of the University of Geor gia; however. I do want to atate one or two facts. I.lke no many others who prefer charge* against college athletes, Mr. Iilee tan* made statements concerning Georgia's *<t<wd and her athletic representative which go wide of the mark. Mr. Rice state* that the •gin manngei In formation *********••***••*•' IHHHIMHH, Georgia management rpfnneit to give out shy Information regarding the lineup of her team. Ttal* I* not true, and the stnte- rnent does Professor Haiifonl nu injnstl. The fact Is. I‘rofe*«or Hanford sent to me week before the game with Tech the •IMllty statement of his players, each glbllltr statement of bis play* . . duly Oiled out Hnd subscribed to. In this list the name* of two men appeared against whose record I had secured evbleuce. One of these men was promptly dropped. The charge against the other was ••playing un der an assumed mune." 1 reiiuested a sworn statement from the young umn on this point. It wn* secured and given to me by ITofessor Hanford, with his own us* seem* to be ret|ulrcd. There Is no way to surnnee that he considered the .voting i thoroughly honorable and upright. I furnished Professor Handel, of Tech, the list of Georgia players. Just as It hnd been submitted to me by Professor Knnford. Ution the request of Professor ltuudcl, I met him nnd Professor Hanford at the Pied mont hotel. In Attaint*. Friday night tie- fore the game ou Saturday. At thin con ference. both these gentlemen were ques tioned closely regarding the eligibility of their respective players. They both stated that. Insofar as each of then) had lieen able to learn, no man would represent either college who could not meet the ellglhinty requirement* of the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association. Each of these gentle men then rend the list of the players who wer** to represent them. Poach Whitney, I was told, declined to gin* out to the reporters the respective po sition* the ptsjer* would occupy, but aa I knew of no particular Impropriety In this, I did not feel called upon to criticise either him or Professor Hanford. I knew that both Professor Ratidel and Professor Hanford had furnished each other with a list of their players, nnd that both of them had previously forwarded to me the eligibility statements of each man whose name appeared oti the two lists. I bare found It o rather difficult task to secure convicting evidence against college players. Everybody' knows a great deal, nut few ari> willing to vouch for the nccurn- of their InforumtIon. In fact, I remem ber that Just a white ago, t'aptaln Wil Hams, of Dfihlonega, gave expression to some belief* he entertained regarding the amateur stnudlng of some college play, and that Mr. Rice very promptly sty him a ••calamity howler nnd boldly wrote It down that athletics In Southern colleges were pure nnd gotnl. And ho It goes. Ah n mutter of fact, until the faculties of the different colleges make It their busi ness to keep out “ringers" nnd profession als. It Is useless for an outsider to attempt to purify them. Since the football season opened, rumors hnv fast to the effect thnt lioth Ah i as I could get anything like sufficient deuce to call In um-stlon a man's amateur standing, I Immediately communicated the charges to the physical director of the college Involved. In return, I was Inform* charge, nnd not attempt to dobnr n man by “French court trials.” In other words, the spirit of eo-operation lias not lieen conRidcuous. It has been sltnply this: “You Is guilt—maylie be le, but claim the ten day tootle him, anywny." Ah I have said before. It Is practically Im possible to secure the sort of evidence that ini 4i in imriir mi wh* rnris inev may give you, aud the attempt to rule off ti umn In till* state without sworn testltnouy designating specfftcslly every detail of the charge will be resisted and resisted with nil the strength and enthusiasm thnt can be mustered. I have always stood for pure college atb- years during which she has been In Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Associa tion will attest, but I ran not guarantee the ntrlct amateur standing on other teams when I am requested to submit such evidence a* would hold In a court of Jus- tier. bet me say again before elosln Professor Ratidel was furnished by sor Hanford with a list of the Georgia play- era. nnd that Professor Hanford was given by Professor Rnndel the list of Tech play ers. Neither gentleman objected to a sin gle player, and both of them vouched for the eligibility of each of their playtrs. While I hnd strong suspicions against tnemlters of each team, suspicions which I hnd previously discussed with President Mntlicsoii, Professor Rnndel und Professor Sanford, they did not appear to the* tlemen sufficiently strnog to weaken •ontldenee In the players* ’eligibility., and is I could not submit sworn testimony In |a I hesitated to debar a man. EDWARD 8. I r J*r« '• ami Florida. COTTON STATERS TO LET MOBILE CLUB CO Gulfport. Mias., Nov. 14.—President . 8. Compton, of the Cotton Stales League, announces that the winter meeting of the board of directors will be held at Gulfport December 1. The several towns that have been considering the matter of asking for franchises are expected to have their propositions In readiness for the Gulf port meeting:. Mobile will be declared out of present company, having ac quired a franchise In the Southern League, and as a proposition Is pend ing to enlarge the circuit to an eight team affair, this will make room for three more towns. DO IT NOW! Smok. LE-Jf. mrfdle*t*d tobacco, curt (or cold,, catarrh, asthma. Sold by drug and cigar store*. CUBS AND ATHLETES MAY MEET IN SPRING Chicago. Nov. It.—The world’* cham pion Cub* and the Philadelphia Ath letics will likely clash in a big spring eerie* at New Orleans. President Mur. phy, of the champion*, ha* written Manager Frank o( the Crescent City Southern League Club in regard to get ting the use of the park for the game* and asking Frank to .twist In arrang ing the series with Connie Mack, the Athletic* boss, who I* wintering In Cal. Komia. Mack has always been willing to pit hi* team against National League chib* in the spring, and the president of tho cub* anticipates no trouble In clinch ing arrangements for the series. The series will be a departure In spring training work for the Cub,. Heretofore they have prepared for the coming season by playing exhibi tion games with minor league clubs only, but Murphy figure* that games between the Cub* and Athletic* would Prove a great drawing card In New Or. leans and does not fear that hla team will suffer In the series. ! ONE CHANCE I I FOR REFORM I The following latter .was »qme time ago sent to the sporting editor of The Atlanta Georgian. The letter was marked "person*!" and was not. therefore, published at that time. Since then It has been given to the press. It Is, therefore now set forth , here and will be of Interest to all those In Georgia who have the Interests of decent ath- tetlcs at heart; Dahlonega. Ga., Oct. !9, 1»0T. Mr. Percy H. WhltlngrSporttng Editor Georgian, Atlanta, 'Ga.: Dear Sir—My attention has been di rected to the suggestions made by you In the Issue of The Georgian of October 25 with reference to the article which I have recently addressed to The Con stitution relative to the matter of clean athletics In Georgia, and I note the suggestions you make therein. 1 am not Interested In this matter In any personal way. nor do I court newspaper notoriety on this subject I happen,to be a Georgian by birth and education, and. as an officer of the United States army. I happen to be temporarily detailed as commandant of cadets at Dahlonega. My Interest however. In athletics, particularly Geor gia athletics, has no local bearing and Is not confined to Dahlonega; but mv desire, as a Georgian. Is that there should be clean athletic* In sll of the schools of the state. My temporary local connection with Dahlonega has revealed to me certain information which I "generalized" In the article which appeared In The Constitution, I did not care to bo more specific be cause my Interest was not such as to cause me to bring any given school Into question, my real concern being for all of them alike. You. however, call upon me for more specific Information. It may not be proper or expedient to give this Information for publication at this particular time; but I take It that, like me, you are concerned In clean athletics. I think you are In a position to bring about a situation that would yield this result, and I, therefore, sug gest to you, as representing The Geor gian, the following; That you put yourself In communi cation with the authorities of the five colleges of tho state, to-wit: Georgia, Tech, Dahlonega, Mercer and Emory, with the view that a board be organ ized consisting of one member of the board of trustees of each of the named Institutions: and that said board he clothed with authority to Investigate the matter of unclean athletics, as I have charged, and upon which you wlah more definite Information, the ex penses of said board to be met equally by each of said Institutions. Upon the organisation of such a board, If the same can be had within n reasonable time, say within thirty days, I will undertake to place before the board the Information on which my charges are based; and upon failure to establish before said board and to the satisfaction of said board, that the athletic conditions In this.state art not ■clean," I will see that the necessary expenses of the members of the said board are defrayed without taxing the colleges therefor. 1 have been expecting that some answer would be made to the charges, i though they were preferred In n general way. No answer having yet been made, I reserve the right to pub lish this Istter In the event you do not succeed In organizing such board, not withstanding It Is addressed to you personally, as I bellsve that Its publi cation may more acutely bring to the attention of the sport-loving public the condition of college athletics In this state. In order to avoid the sensationalism and notoriety which so often attend such Investigations, I would make n further suggestion that the Investigat ing board go Into executive session, keeping secret Its proceedings, and only publish their findings. Such proced ure would prevent any possible Injury to an Institution which might result from a publication of proceedings. Very respectfully, E. J. WILLIAMS, Captain 5th U. S. Infantry. At the time tho above letter was received the sporting editor of The Atlanta Georgian could not clearly see how he got In the argument, and asked that he be given the right to publish the letter, after which he could apt on Captain Wil liams' suggestion without too much appearance of "butting In." It Will now give him pleasure to write the letters suggested by Cap tain William*. He doe* not sec that Emory enn be Interested. »s this college does not play Intercollegiate baseball nor football; and he expects that Em ory will wisely decline to get In the argument. . But he does believe that the other four .colleges will be willing to take It up nnd that they w take any steps to Improve the quite deplorable condition of athletics in certain—and- perhaps In ail—Lew* gia colleges. It Is his belief that the only re form that can help will be started by those Inside Instead of those outside, but It begins to look now as though th* Georgia college would Have to combine to presene their own good names. O GEORGIA’S DEFENSE. | O Word comes from the Unlveisi- O ty of Georgia that a defense u O against the charges made W O Grantland Rtee, of The Nashs llle O Tennessean, against Georgia Is oe- O Ing prepared and will be publish O ed soon In Atlanta papers. ~ OOOtKHWOOOOOIJOOlWOOOOW 100 ® O ATLANTA SIGNS MEN- | O Bill Smith has signed H. e- O Holmes, of the Canton. Ohio, v O team, a catcher, and Oscar Bur O kett, a pitcher, of the Braddock g O team. - p OOOOQiMJOgOOOOOOqtWOOO 00008 It Is by no means a certainty '6** John J. McCIoskey will again htnd!* the reins at SL Louis. Mac h ash, sled. A good Judge of ball P|*J3J and a strong leader, McClo*l«*» "i; r . harmonised with hi* men. and tbf ' , f dlnals certainly did not pat * TJj* best effort* in his behalf. « knows whom th* Robinsons all 1 as Mac’s successor, but there « r 'I . ty of good men open to •pSfff'X- They would Ilka to have Frank that much Is an open a<* r , to Frank’s health will not permit >* lin leave the mountain atmosphere.