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16 TIIE ATLANTA GEORGIAN AND NEWS. SATURDAY. NOVEMBER 16. 1907. SPORTING PAGE GEORGIA OUT UNTIL ANNUAL S. I. A. A. MEETING i EDITED BY IP. H. WHITING i NOT NEWS, BUT VIEWS By PERCY H. WHITING. Next Saturday’s football parties: Alabama vs. Louisiana State University at Mobile. Mercer vs. Tech at Atlanta. Now isn’t that an attractive football offering for a Saturday! If you can beat it let’s hear about it. For general punkness, we mean. The Alabama-L. S. U. game is strictly an event for 18-footers and will not be noticed by the rooters for the big craft. The local game is kind of a handicap affair, with Mercer try ing to see whnt she cpn do against Tech. The Jfacon team is in the position next Saturday that Tech is this—there isn’t much chance, but she’ll do her durndest. Of course the scarcity of games next Saturday is due to the fact that most of the teams aro laying back nnd preparing for the Thanksgiving battles, which come the following Thursday, The'big teams like unimportant games on the Saturday be fore Thanksgiving—something in the way of a hard scrimmnge. But the minor teams are not keen for taking on anything hec tic nnd feverish just before Thanksgiving, so there is little doing. But wait for Thanksgiving. Then there will be something stirring, nnd stirring fast, too. Our crabbed friend, The Columbia State, the ranking of which as a Sporting authority we hesitate to mention, has the fol lowing : IT 18 TO LAUGH! In connection with the 8ewanee-Tech game last Saturday, a large round laugh bursts out when one reads what the wise sport ing editor of Tbo Atlanta Georgian wroto on September 30. In the exubornneo of hla optimism, ho said: "We want to go on record as bellorlng that there la only ono team In the 3. I. A. A. that has nriy license to make one more touchdown than Tech does In any game, and that solo exception Is Vanderbilt. Be- wanco la talking loud, but right now on material and dope our money would go on Tech.” Score: Scwanco 18; Tech 0. Artd as they send the clipping to us themselves and seem to bo just pining to be noticed, we rise to remark: “Oh fiddle.” Onr guess was wrong, nnd wo have no apologies. Anybody who follows tho sporting nows of tho South knows of the striug of misfortunes which has all but ruined the Tech season. But we have this to say, though, that when the only aggrega tion of players in South Carolina that has tho right to bo classed ss a football tdara appears in Tech park Thanksgiving Day it had better play a stronger game than it has shown any time this year, save ono; if it hopes to beat that same Tech team that Scwanee beat 18 to 0. But that’s tho troublo with Clemson. That team seems to have but one object for playing football and that object is to get ready for Tech. Last year, for example, the Clemson {earn never really spread itself until it camo to Atlanta on Thanksgiving Day. Then it un corked everything in tho shop—energy nnd extra offort that had been stored up to use against Tech and plays ’that had not been uncorked before except in secret practice. Tho Tech team, on tho other hand, had to play a hard season, meeting teams like Vanderbilt nnd Sewaneo shortly before Thanksgiving. .And ns n result it was not in tho best of shnpo on Thanksgiving Day. But this is no “holler,” The best team won, and when It does, nnd wins by fair menns (which Clemson did), there will be no kick from the driver of this dope wagon. This year Clemson’s schedulo is not the easiest over, but at that tho South Carolina Tigers have an onsicr time than Tech. No team they moot or hnvo met will class with Vanderbilt and Sc- wance, the aggregations Tech meets in succession. , The point is, though, that Clemson lays n shade more stress on beating Tech than Tech does on beating Clemson nnd tho Tigers will como nearer plnying the gamo of their lives on Thanks giving Day than Tech plnyers will. But our former prediction goes, “Clemson will hnvo to play a better gamo than she has yet if she is to beat tho Tecli team that faced Scwance.” '• Now then, old Columbia State, clip thnt out nnd stick it up on the wall, nnd if we can’t wriggle out on November 29, no mat ter what happens, then wo aro less elusive and slippery than wo think wo are. GRIDIRONS ARE HOT IN EAST AND WEST THE VANDERBILT FOOTBALL TEAM TECH AND VANDY CLASH IN BATTLE t More ia tho team which the Yellow Jackets meet on Dudley field on Saturday afternoon. Unless something decidedly unexpected happens, this Nashville aggregation will hold the football cham pionship of the South this year. GEORGIA WILL BE SUSPENDED UNTIL NEXTS. I. A. A. MEET By PERCY WHITING. Nashville, Tenn.. Nov. 16.—Compared with Tech’s average Work-out before a game, the mild exetclee that Coach Helsman put his team through yester day was as tabasco sauce to peaches and cream. All tho members of both the Vnnder. blit and Tech teams report In good condition this morning and both ag gregations will put their strongest llne- upb In the field. Neither bunch has ever been In better shape for a game. The weather Is clear nnd cool. At 10 o’clock the men were In tlielr uniforms, and shortly afterwards they caught a car for Dudley Field. This picturesque park was In a de cidedly slippery condition, ns a result of a heavy frost, followed by a warm sun, and there wns a world of slipping around during practice. Nothing very hard In tho way of work was done. The tenm.klcked the ball- around a bit, practiced receiving punts, ran around the field at long In tervals nnd finally went through a snappy signal practice. All the men were In great trim and the signal work went off with a vim that has not been equnled by Tech this year. A large crew of Vanderbilt men gath ered at a respectful distance and, after giving some cheers for Tech, under the efficient leadership of "Fink" (Hamil ton. Jr..) Douglas, of Atlanta, they watched the practice. And this seemed to spur the Techsters on to extra goad' work. Then came the only really strenuous work of the day. Coach Helsman sat hts men down on the bandstand used during the Michigan gnme and gnve them n short talk on what they were expected to do and what they were ex pected not to do. Then ’come somo more signal work and the team went to the hotel. The nftemoon Was spent at the va rious mild forms of amusement offered by this classic burg, such as flirting with the Ward and Belmont girls, pa rading the streets, giving college yells and eating the dirt nnd smoke of which the atmosphere (alleged) Is entirely constituted. Several of the bravest of the crow Invited themselves to a basket ball game, which was taking place at Ward Seminary, a local girl's school, but somehow the deal felt through before entrance to the gymnasium was ef fected. Early last nfght the entire team turned In and the players did their best to make up for the sleep they lost on the way down. The game today Is called at 2:10 o’clock. It Is probable that 35-mlnut» halves will be played. “ Last night Coach McGugln was asked about his opinion of the game. "We expect a good game,” he said "I have a lot of respect for the Tech team. I don’t think thnt Sewnnee «■ as much better than Tech as the i« to 0 score showed, and I am sure that the Tech team will play a better gams against us than they did against Sewanee. For one thing. Luck lain the game, nnd thnt will give the plavers confidence. For another thing, thev are over the stage fright that bothered them at the start of the Sewanee game and have got back their confidence as a result of the good showing they mada Id the second half. "The Tech players went Into that Sewanee game thinking, that they wers sure to be beaten badly. When they found It was not so bad they made i great showing. "I had a good look at the Tech men today nnd I could see that they had come Up here with a lot of determina tion nnd fighting spirit. You can tell when a team comes here Just to get n nice trip and caring only to get the game over, no matter what the score. "I can see thnt the Tech players be lieve that they will probably lose but that they have a chance to beat us nnd they are going to give us a hard game. "I don’t think that the Tech team really realizes Its own strength. If they happen to get a couple of touch downs on us at tho Jump—and they might do It, for It Is a tricky team- then we should have a hard time That Is tho reason why I think that Captain Blake will Insist on 15-mln- ute halves. He wants a chance to cor. rcct nny mistakes that may be made at the start. Our team Is lq fine condition. I don't think that we have gone into any game this season In as good trim. We shall use Bob Blako as defenslre fullback and I think that It will make us stronger. Costen lias been erratic on handling punts of late.” The Line-up. The rival teams will line up as fol lows: Vanderbilt Pos. Tech. V. Blake 1. e Jones McLain 1. t Brown Sherrill L g. Henderson Stone c. Snyder King r. g.... Smith Haslock r. t Davis B. Blake, c. r. e. .....Hill Costen q. b Hightower Campbell 1. h Sweet Craig ’...T. h Fitzsimmons Morton f. b Luck W. 8. FARNSWORTH. New York. Nov. 16.—It's big league day In' football. Nearly all the big gridiron teams are Interested today nnd by (he time Mr. Moon puts In an appearancs tonight soma of tho roost exciting battles In the annals of the great sport will have been played and winners probably found. Of course tbs big gams In this sec tion will be that at New Haven. Never ■were there two elevens better fitted to tight for the championship of the East than are Princeton and Yale. Every man is fit to put up the battle of hla career and will fight with every ounce of strength In him to bring victory and glory to the university which he rep resents.. The llno-up is as follows: . Princeton. Ysls. Wlster. Is H. Jones, Is. Buckingham, It Page. It W.ill. r, lg Cooney, lg. rhllllps. Congdon. c. McFayden, rg. Ooebet. rgl Bo .th, rt. Bigelow, rt. Brown, re Olcott, re. Dillon, T. Jones, q. I {eiian, th. Brides. Ih. Tlbbott rh ; .. Bomar. rh. McCormick, t • • .. Coy. t The overage of the Princeton line, 1,11-2 pnunda: * feet 8-4 Inches In height; age 111-4. The avenqre of Princeton bsckflsld. 144 1-4 pounds. 8 feet ,8-4 laches In height: age 81 8-4.- Aversgo Yale line. 18* 8-4 pounds: I feet In height; age 21. Average Tale bsckScld, ISO 1-2 “FREEDOM” Dr.a. B. Wilmer SUNDAY AT 3:30 P. M. Y.U..G 1‘E’i'S CHR STIAX ASS3C ATION. pounds; 8 feet 111-4 Inches In height age 201-2. Official referee, M. J. Thompson, Georgetown; umpire, J. L. Oakson, Le high; field judge. A. E. Whiting, Cor nell. Time keeper, Charles C. Young, CornelL Away out In Ann Arbor there will be s struggle that will surely make the fur fly some, for on past perform ances Michigan and the University of Pennsylvania elevens look to be pretty evenly matched. Both rely on "old football." although of late the noble sons of William Penn have been mak ing advances wltb the forward pass and the other new-fangled plays which go to make “new football” a success. The nlmble-flngered, fleet-footed In dians will "cross bats” with Minnesota, proclaimed champions of the lend sit uated west of the Mississippi. This game will bring together two teams which are seniors In "naw football' and both are sure to rely upon the for ward pass for the gains much more to than on line plunges and regular end rune. Within the massive walls of the sta dium at Cambridge, Harvard and Dart, mouth will struggle and this game should prove one worthy going miles to witness. The crimson Is not nearly so strong as usual while the Hanover eleven Is traveling at a hot pace these days and Is likely to give the Cam bridge chaps a tough run for their money. For reasons beet known to himself. Jerry Driscoll of Ben Francisco, thinks that the climate of Chicago It not so rotten. DO IT NOW! Bmoke EE-M. medicated tobacco, cure for colds, catarrh, asthma. Sold by drug and cigar stores. By PERCY WHITING. Nashville, Tenn., Nov. 16.—The sus pension of the University of Georgia football team by the Southern Inter collegiate Atb' tic Association will last until the next annual meeting of the association, which wl|l be held In Clem- eon, beginning December 18. And maybe It will last a lot longer. But that will depend on the University of Georgia. Dr. Dudley’s life was made a burden for him today by the efforts of Pro fessor Holmes, the man who suspended Georgia, lo get a little moral support, and by the efforts of Professor Riggs, of Clemson, to get the punishment of Georgia suspended until tho end of the present season. Vice President Holmee first wired that the Georgia faculty claimed that they knew nothing about tho use of “ringers” on the team In the game against Tech. Not satisfied with this, he called up Dr. Dudley at lunch time over the long distance ’phone and put the case up to him. Dp. Dudley assured Professor Holmes thnt It was up to the vice president nnd that the president did not get Into the argument unless there was an ap peal. After hearing the argument which Professor Holmes had. however, he offered It as his advice that the sus pension be kept In force. ■‘It Is difficult for me to believe that a faculty should have known of the existence of a state of affairs such as I am told wot obvious to everybody who saw the game,” said Dr. Dudley. “If the faculty did not know to what a pass things had come then It Is my opinion that they SHOULD have | and suspended the football team for known It. I can not conceive that such the rest of the year. We did the same a thing could have happened In Van derbllt without my having known It "To begin back, the Cox caae, which Is admitted by Georgia, was enough to Justify the suspension of the team for the rest of the year. "As I understand, It, Cox, an admit tedly professional baseball player, was run Into the game against Alabama. It Is put up ss a defense that the athletic director was called away during the second halt of the game and did not see Cox put In. But that hardly makes any difforencs. The coach was there and the act was done." "In.this last case—tho use of the ’ringers’ In tha Georgia-Tech game, from all I hear—and there Is no doubt. Ing the facts of the case—It was the most flagrant thing that has been known In the South In a long time, and If the B. I. A. A. did not act upon It at once It might us well retire from business. "I am sorry for Clemson and for Au burn. It knocks them out of good games. But It can’t be helped. ‘T had a telegram from Professor Biggs, of Clemson, today asking that a punishment be withheld until after the game In Atlanta Saturday. And while I hate to see Clemson lose the money, I can nnt-see how I can go be hind Professor Holmes’ ruling. Nor do I desire to do so. I am surprised thnt the Georgia fac ulty* did not act on the case of Cox at the time It occurred. The altuatlon might easily have been cleared up then. The case of Rose Polytechnic was an analogous one. That team played u professional ball player against us. As soon as the president of the Institution was notified he discharged' the coach thing here once, not so many years ago, when our team played a man Ineligible under the one-year rule. When wo found out that It had been done with the knowledge of the captain of the team and the players, we disbanded the team, cancelling all dates for a Georgia trip we had planned. "I understand that the Georgia au thorities claim that they could not let a man go because he was under sus picion. "But Vanderbilt did that thing last year In the case of Wynne. We could never prove that he was a professional ball player, but there was r strong suspicion that he was and after wt found It out and were convinced that, though It could not be proven, the case against him was a good one, we did not let him play again. "To me that sterns the only way to get out of a case like that." When asked how long he thought the suspension of Georgia would be con' tlnued, Dr. Dudley said: "The case will doubtless be taken up at the next meeting of the association. What will be done then I don’t know, but it Is presumably up to Georgia. If we get assurances from them that they are going to get a coach they can de pend on and* we can depend on, and If the faculty will promise to supervise actively athletics and keep them clean, and If the students are In favor of the upholding of the S. I. A. A. rules, then I see no reason why we can not take them back at that time. They will be punished by losing two of their three best games of the season. I Imagine this will mean a pretty bad financial loss and will be a strong object lesson om to the desirability of athletic purity. Chattanooga May Join Bush League Special to Tho Georgian. Chattanooga, Tenn., Nov. 16.—A apo dal from Little Rock printed In a lo cal paper today states that the Little Rock Southern League franchise may be purchased by Chattanooga for the sum of 818,000. According to the statement of thoso Interested In. a.baseball franchise for this city, that sum. nor nothing like It, will bo paid for the Little Rock fran chise. Sam 8trang Nlcklln, the New York National League player who has been after a Southern league fran chise for several seasons, Is now oft on a hunting trip. Chattanooga, It will be remembered, was bodily kicked out of the league some five years ago. and nothing was received for the franchise. It would, therefore, hardly be fair for this city to put 818.000 Into tho ooffers of an or ganisation which so summarily ejected It less than a half dozen years ago. Local partita who are Interested say that the remainder of the league will have to pay a pari on any franchise which Is brought here, especially If It costa anything like 818.000. Chattanooga Is on the direct route from Nashville to Atlanta, Is but 144 miles from Birmingham, and much closer to every town In the league, ex cept Memphis, than Is Little Rock. As Little Rock has never been a paying ball town the trip out there will be a dead loss now that Bhrevepori Is out of the league, and the advantage of having Chattanooga In and Little Rock out Is very plain to every business man. Chattanooga, however, will not be held up for 818.600. and If better terms are not offered this city will centctft !**•!» with a fast Independent any league or Join the outlaw league which Is said to be under consideration. As soon as Dick Dwyer returns from his honeymoon be will exchange a few posaes with the Inventive, yellow tinted genius who said he won hla bride through giving her tips on the races he was starting. Full Statistics Of Given Tech’s Players ‘The full statistics of the Tech team, weight, age, height and the like, arc hero given for the first time: Clarence E. Jones, end; age 88; height 5 ft., 9 In.; weight 160; home town, Atlanta; prep school, Peacock; nb previous football experience. J. Clyde Brown, tackle; age 28; height S ft. 111-2 Inchei; weight 178 pounds; home town, Barnesvllle, Go.; prep school experience, Gordon Insti tute; football experience at prep school, t,years; previous football ex perience at Tech 1 year. Albert J. Henderson, guard; ago 19; height 8 ft. 10 in.; weight 216; home town Ocilta, Go.; prep school, Ocllla High; no previous prep, school football experience; previous experience with Tech team 1 year. William R. Snyder, center; age 20; height 5 ft. 11 In; weight 188; homo town, Atlanta; no prep, school expert ence; football experience at Tecb, : year. Gordon Burton Smith, guard; ag< 18; height 6 ft. 21-2 In.; weight 171 pounds; home town, Atlanta; prep, school, Q. M. A.; prep, school experi ence, 2 years on O. M. A. team; Tech football experience, 1 year scrub team, 1 year sub. John Ryland Davis,, tackle; age 24; height 6 ft. 10 in.; weight 188; home town. Burton, Ga.; prep, school, Amer ican University; prep, school experi ence, 2 years; previous Tech experi ence, none. Dean Hill, end; age 19; height I ft. 111-2 inches; weight 148 pounds; home town. Qloversvllle, N. Y.; prep school, Exeter; prep, school experience, some as end on scrub team; previous ex perience at Tech * years. William Harrison Hightower, quar terback; age 18; bright 6 ft. 81-2 In.; weight 127; home town, Thomaston. Oa.; prep school, R. E. Lee; prep, school experience, none; Tech football experience, 1 year. W. Foster Fitzsimmons, half back; age 24 years; height 5 ft. 11 In.; weight 188; home town. Atlanta; prep, school. Trinity, New York city; previous foot ball experience, 2 years at Trinity; previous Tech football experience none, Charles Atwater Sweet, captain, half bock: age 21; height E ft. 10 1-2 In.; weight 166; home town, Atlanta, Go.; prep, school, High of Providence, R. I.; some football experience at Providence; previous football experi ence 8 years. Felton Luck, fullback: age 20: height 5 ft. 10 In.; weight 177; home town. College Park, Ga.; prep school, Dah- Icnega: prep school experience, class teams at Dahlonega; previous football experience-at Tech, 2 years. Of the men on the team which faces Vanderbilt— Six are Atlanta men. ' Ten ore residents of ths state of Georgia. , , | ■ Eight were In Tech previous to this year. THE SUBS. 8. Inman Bell, guard and tackle; age 20; height S ft. 11 In.; weight, 160; home town, Atlanta; prep school, Q. M. A. and Peacock; prep, school experience, G. M. A., 1 year: Peacock. 2 years; previous football experience, Tech scrubs 1904, Tech varsity 1906. Cherry Logan Emerson, back field; age 19; height 8 ft. 8 In.; weight 141; prep, school. Boys’ High School: prep, school experience, 1 year B. H. 8.; previous experiencs at Tech 2 years on scrub team. _ L°ol* B. Wilcox, end; age 21; height S ft. ll ins.; weight ISO: home town, Macon, Ga.; prep, school, Gresh am High School; prep, school experi ence at Gresham High School; previ ous experlehce at Tech none. Cber!»« A. Adamson. Jr., backfisld; age 10; height 6 ft. 11 In.; weight 180; home town Carrollton, Oa.; prep, school, O. M. A.; prep, school experi ence, G. M. A. 2 years; previous Tech experience, l year. J. Albln Johnson, tackle, and full back; age 21; weight 178; height 6 ft. 2 In.; home town, Stockholm, Sweden: prep, school, Ferris Institute. Michigan; prep, school experience, 3 GEORGIA’S i STAYS 8peclat to The Georgian. Athena, Go., Nov. 16.—The sentiment here Is that GeorglA will not be black listed, as other teams are In the same fix. Abundant evidence Is In the posses sion of Professor Sanford. The faculty and the athletic man agement were suspicious of tho situ- ELEVEN IN ATHENS atlon, but were powerless. Nice, Mc Duffie, Martin and McGhee were close- ly questioned by the committee and the committee was satisfied as to thl requirements. Tho team rests todey, but will practice Monday. It Is thought here that Tech and Sewanee will sure ly be blacklisted. • ’ Davidson and A. M. of N. C. Clash on Charlotte Gridiron Special to The Georgian. Davldaon, N. C„ Nov. 16.—The Da vidson eleven left last night for Char lotte, where they meet the A. A M. of North Carolina today at Latta Park. The players, with the exceptions of Clark and Cluts, are all In grea’ shape, and a great game will result. Practice during the past week has been fast and furious. The stubborn resistance of an unusually strong scrub team has failed to check the ‘varsity's offense, as It hns done before this season, ha Injuries were sustained In the Clem** game, which was not as hard as wai expected. Coaches Pollard and Kei zer have been asslated during the part week by Mr. Roper, of Yale. The line-up for today’s game will be Captain Edgerton, center; Axford and Daniel, Ruards; Moore and-Dunn, tack les: Sadler nnd Wilkinson or ClutA ends; Elliot, qunrter; Dsnny or Clark fullback. The subs will be Wsrllck, Rankin nnd Shaw and Clark and Clots Mercer and Gordon Teams Will Meet in Macon Special to The Georgian. Macon, Ga.. Nov. 16.—A football en tertainment that Is due to be pleasing to both old and young alike is billed for this afternoon at Central City Park. The affair of the day will be a’ friendly clash between the Mercer University eleven and Gordon Institute. The gnme will begin promptly at 2 o’clock, as It will be necessary for the Gordon team to catch a train for Barnesvllle at 4:40 o'clock. . As It now appears there will be noth ing simple about the scrap. If Mer cer’s ends nnd backa can put a crimp In the Gordon forward pass, one-half oj Gordon’s offense play will be wrappw up and placed away on the shelf. , The two elevens will line-up abootal follows: _ . Mercer. Goroen. Bussell, Prout, captl.a Underwood, rg. Johnson, rt Scoggins, Zelner.lt Poole, rt Lawrence, rt. 1 Davis, It. .. ’ Mercer. It. 1 Hicks, re 1 Spurlln, le ' 1 Landrum, • S™ l “ v r S 1 Farmer, rh Cochran, r 1 Mullary, t 1 Shaw, f. Moore t 1 FOOTBALL I GAMES TODAY Yale v. Princeton, at New Haven. Pennsylvania v. Michigan, at Ann years at Ferris Institute; high schooL 8 years. W. Leckle Mattox, mascot; age 9; height 4 ft.; weight 62; prep school Camp Luckasugee. THE AVERAGES. Average age of team, 2010-11 years. Average height of team, 5 ft. 10 4-1L Average weight, 170 2-11. Average weight, tackle to tackle. 123 4-5. Average weight of line. 176 2-7. Average weight of backs. 1811-4. Heaviest man on team, Henderson. Lightest man on team. Hightower. Tallest man on team. Smith. Shortest man on team, Hightower. Oldest men on team, Davis and Fltx- slmmon*. Youngest man on team. Smith. Arbor. | Indians v. Minnesota, at Mlnnoapou*| Harvard v. Dartmouth, at C.mibrWI* j | Cornel! v. Swarthmore. at Ithaca. Annapolis v. Pennsylvania StatA Annapolis. Lafayette v. Syracuse, at Syraeora Brown V. Vermont, at Providence. West Point v. Tufts, at West PM Williams v. Amherst, at Wlius^i t0 Tri'nlty v. Union, nt Schenectadf’ Wesleyan V. Colgate, at Utica. Holy Croas v. Villa Nova, at won*- tC Bowdoln v. Maine, nt Bninsn'ict Bucknell v. Dickinson. at Lenl* Haverford v. Franklin and Marsw* nt Haverford. _ u >«tera Washington and Jefferson v. > U. of P.. at Pittsburg. „.t!lie- Lehigh v. Urslnus, at South hem. _ c I. Gettysburg v. Steslton T. at Steelton. „ .-hniettl Serin afield T. B. r. Msseacbweu* Aggies, at Springfield. v.irdMS Kordhntn v. Medico ChL at 1 F C/ C. N. Y. v. Seton Hall, at ®‘ wt * ° North Carolina v. Richmond CoWI*j ^ttln v. Purdus. at^jf Tech v. Vanderbilt, at Noehuu* ■