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■I7IE .yfLANTA CKORGIAX AND NEWS. Wednesday, Xov. 20,1907. SPORTING PAGE NO FOOTBALL GAME FOR ATLANTA NEXT SATURDAY | EDITED BY IP. H. WHITING NOT NEWS, BUT VIEWS By PERCY H. WHITING. Now that the Qeorgia colleges are in the throes of reform, enforced and otherwise, the views of Caspar Whitney, editor of Outing and onff of America’s foremost fighters for pure nthletics, on the letter and the spirit of the rules ought to'he of interest. Here is what Mr. Whitney says: The way to make and keep the athletics of a college pure Is, first, to elect only the right kind of men to office In the asso ciation and to captaincy, and having done this to devote special time to Interpreting and exploiting the spirit of the rules, rather than merely the letter. I wish some college would hare the sportsmen's conviction so strongly that it would rise up and say to the college world. From this day we wipe off the face of our slate rules, save only three: (1) That a man must be a bona fide student of a university to*be eligible to represent this college on the athletic field; (1) That his class room record must be up to a certain standard of excellence In order for him to be given the privilege of trying for a place on any of the college athletic teams; <S) That he must be an amateur. The curse of college sports today Is Its multiplicity of rules. These three rules I hare mentioned are sufficient to oorer all cases. / We all know what an amateur Is. The moment you begin to define an amateur and say he may do this and not that and may do the other thing, and so on and so on, you are pretty sure to overlook somo one loophole which the vicious will In stantly seise upon; because to go Into this elaborate definition is to challenge the assault This could be accomplished, If the presidents of the universities had really as much concern for the , college sport as they profess to hare. Regularly, almost every year after the football season, cer tain college presidents have a spasm of sporting reform and forthwith they enter upon a harangue that has to do only with the evils of the game. Everybody knows thero are evils In football, as well ns ■ there are in every walk of life, even within the sacred pre cincts of the church, but It doesn't appeal to our common sense to damn the considerable percentage of good because of the small percentage of evil, and the reason there isn’t more co operation is that one loses patienco with the tiresome reform ers, who hammer away at the evils, without making any effort to stretch forth a helping hand, because of the good. The presidents of the universities, It they would honestly get together in a genuine sportsmanly spirit of helpfulness, could clear the atmosphere in one meeting. They have the power and they could agree that henceforth those three above rules only would obtain; that the boys should be put on their honor, just as they are in tho class room examinations, and the word of each university be accepted as to the eligibility of Its own teams. It's an unusually vicious boy that falls you If you put him on his honor. ‘The collego which deceived under such conditions would become an outcast without need of legis lation. I think tho great trouble lies In the fact that Immediately a perplexing situation arises, presidents, officials, undergradu ates and everybody, get together for more rule-making, instead of getting together for the purpose of building up the right I spirit All the rules in Christendom are not going to make spirit and sport—not rule-making—is what college athletics in these days require. CASPAR WHITNEY. In commenting on this preachment the“Sewanee Tiger "says: The S. I. A. A. will meet early in December at Clemson Col lege, S. C„ and we take this opportunity to call the attention of all the colleges and universities which composo the associa tion to Mr. Caspar Whitney's article on college athletics. Tho plan proposed by Mr. Whitney scarcely admits of criti cism. for there Is no better way to put an etld to the ceaseless squabbling about eligibility of players than to place the actual control of the athletics of a college In the hands of a student honor committee, acting with faculty advisors. The honor system originated and flourishes in the South. Let the Southern university men Instruct their delegates to the annual meeting of the association to vote for this plan for put ting American university athletics in a more honorable position. Collego athletics on the honor system might work. This system has proved its worth in college examination rooms. The writer has seen the spy system of examinations in operation at Harvard and the honor system at Vanderbilt and it is his judgment that there was leas cheating under the latter than the formor. If the honor system was ever given a trial in college athlet ics the writer does not know it. He does feel that it could not possibly work any worse than tho present one. He is of the opinion that, under a system where they were put on their honor, Qeorgia men would not have tolerated “ring ers” on the team; that Tech men would have been so quick to in vestigate the rumors Against her men that tho matter would have been settled a week after college opened. He does not believe that under an honor system Sewanee would have stood for Shipp and that under the working of an honor rule Vanderbilt would have dropped Prank Wynne off her football teams even quicker than she did. Maybe an honor system would not work, but it looks to be worth a trial. If it came to’ a choice between it and the must-be-in-college, onc-year-beforo-you-play-on-nny-team rule we would vote for the former. Y. M. C. A. WILL ORGANIZE BASKET BALL LEAGUE The first stsps toward the organisa tion of the Y. M. C. A. Basketball League were taken Tuesday night at a meeting held in the Y. M. C. A. gym nasium. Definite plans hare not yet been made, but It Is practically certain that a strong league will be organ ised. Basketball has been popular at the association since Its first Introduction a number of years ago, and It has been the custom for some years to hare a league composed entirely of associa tion members. The most successful league to date was that of last season. Some of the old players are gone this year, but a sufficient number of men are In the association this year to Insure a league equally as fast and successful as any In the past. Any member of the association, pos sessing the physical qualifications to play the game, may play, provided he attends the regular gymnasium classes. ''PHONY” FOOTBALL TICKETS FOUND BY PORTLAND POLICE HERE’S A BUNCH OF FAMOUS PREP PERFORMERS IMHIIMIIMIHI SMITH. TAYLOR. G. M. A. TEAM. WHITLEY. MOORE. Smith plays quarterback for tho Gordon team and put up the most brilliant game shown by any prop player in Atlanta this year. With a little more weight he would team in the south. Taylor plays right end for the G. M. A. team. He was snapped while making a forward pass. The members of the G. M. A. team shown in the picture are (top row) Colley, Alford, Pendleton, Clark, Schingler, Beard; (middlebrow), Taylor, French, Whitley, Tarver; (bottom row) Johnston, Brown, Bartleson, May. make any Sparkman, Captain Whitley la shown kicking goal. He is one of the stars of the G. M. A. team. Moore is the fullback of the Gordon team. He has shown up well this year. THIS MOBILE SQUABBLE IS GETTING VERY COMPLICATED NO GAME HERE SATURDAY, BUT ONE THANKSGIVING DAY The Situation as Seen by a Man Who Was On the Spot. Cambridge, Maas., Nov. 10.—Boston aad Cambridge, within a day or two, have been flooded with bogus tickets to the Yale-Harvard game. Except for the timely dlacovery of the counter- felten* plot by the police of Portland, serious complications might have resulted. Harvard's management today sent a representative to Portland to aid In prosecuting William Leigh ton, alias Brooks, and Fred Patrick, an engraver, who was arrested after a block of boxwood waa discovered bear ing a draft of_a Harvard-Yale ticket. This block waa found In Patrick's room. WHY, CAN IT BEf Cambridge, Maes., Nov. JO.—Harvard has rallied. The crimson team has •hown big Improvement under stren uous practice and one of the biggest surprises of the season may be sprung on Yale Saturday when Etl’e sons meet Harvard. The Cambridge team has been put through stiff work and dis plays good team play, particularly as regards Interference. All the coaches are present to take a hand In the breaking throogh, punting, storting and drilling of Individuals. 8peclnt to The Georgian. Mobile. Ala., Nov. 20.—When the question of letting Mobile enter the Southern League was first agitated last summer but few people foresaw the squabble which Is now attendant on the attempt of the Alabama club owners to protect themselves from the would-be financiers of the Cotton States League. evident, from various reports sent out from time to time, that tho aim of the Cotton States moguls Is to force Mobile to pay 12,600 for her freedom. Thfl Cotton States League would willingly relinquish Its claim to the Mobile territory If they could there by be enriched In the sum of 12,600. 8o the whole controversy seems to be hinged on the deslrs of tho Cptton States' League to get the coveted 12,600. There has been, ever since Mobile became a member of the lengue, a feel ing among the other league members that Mobile should be put out. In fact, attempts have been made to se cure that end, but they were always unsuccessful. As a member of the Cotton States League Mobile has been a money-maker. Mobile has also con tributed more to the support of the league than any other town. In fact, the contribution bn the pert of the Mo bile club the past season was twice us much as any other club. Not another club In the Cotton States League made money last season. The visiting clubs In the league re ceived HO per day as thalr sharo of tho gate receipts, rain or shine, small at tendance or large. The balance of the :o Into the coffers of the home traveling, to lose money. When a was at home and the attendance good there would he a balance each day on the right aide of the ledger, tout with the exception of Mobile the home attendance waa not large enough In any of the other tawna to offaet the loaa of the rood trlpa. Now a change la proposed. The BIG SIMS TO BE STORM CENTER IN INVESTIGATION OF TECH FOOTBALL It Is understood In Atlanta that the | fight to sustain the suspension of the Georgia School of Technology football i team is now centering around SJms, the j ex-Dahlonega player. It Is reported that a number of ad- • dltlonal affidavits In connection with ! his case have been filed and the Tech i authorities, as soon as they are sure upon this point, will demand to see 1 them, in order to prepare their de- i fense. It Is the gossip about town that the! charges against the other members of \ the Tech team will not be pressed. You ; can take this as a rumor, und for: what It Is worth. Nothing definite has ' been stated. Stnis will be the Tech .storm center on Saturday morning when the execu tive committee of the S. I. A. A. meets. That much Is certain. The Sims case, as stated by the, friends of Tech, Is as follows: Sims, Wrestler “Gets His”in Chaingang Special to The Georgian. Spartanburg. 8. C., Nov. 20.—The wrestling match between "Kid” Pat terson and Joe Wonnlck is off, as Pat terson Is serving a sixty-day sentence on the city ch&lnganrf, he having been convicted in tho police court Monday morning on the charge of larceny. f who Is a man of some means, worked ■ last summer In Atlanta. He was laid off shortly before college opened nnd put In some of hls spare time visiting Tech, Mercer and Georgia, with a view of going to the one of the three col leges he liked best. He last visited Georgia. While there he wns seen by a Tech supporter and was offered some | Inducement to go to Tech, Here the stories of the Tech friends .and the Tech enemies separate. The > Techsters say that Inducements were legitimate, such as the Job with Dan iel Pros. The antl-Teohs say that the i inducement was not legitimate. The public can take their choice as ! to an opinion until Saturday, at which time the evidence In the case will be Introduced. The Piedmont announces that the assembly hall has been reserved for the hearing and if It Is open to tho public you can take It from us that there will be a. standing-room-only crowd. Piedmont Bowlers Defeat Orioles The Piedmont bowling team defeated the Orioles Tuesday night on the Geo. W. Case alleys, by the close score of j 2l f pins. These two teams are bowling a se ries of nine games nnd will bowl three games at each meet. The next games to be bowled Thurs day night. These teams are composed of good bmvlers and are working hard to get In good condition. EMORY TEAMS WOULD BE GLAD TO PLAY IN ATLANTA THANKSGIVING DAY Special to Tho Georxlan. club owner*of Meridian. Vicksburg. ,,; mory College , Oxford. Go.. Nov. 20. jackxon, Gulfport and Columbus want ” . nmark . ye „. to divide the fate recelpta—60 per cent to the vlaltlnr club and a like per cent to tho home organisation. Such an arrangement would work beautifully for every club that came to Mobile, but when Mobile went to other towna ahe would rarely get over the HO guaran tee money. Under ouch an arrangement Mobile would be practically eupportlng the league and would be paying out money at home and when abroad. It woo the fear that they were to be thrown out of the league that caused the Mobile mogula firet to aeek admls- alon to the Southern League. If the Cotton Btatea League thought that Mo bile would be without a chance to get Into another league, they would vote to cancel their franchise at the very next meeting, but knowing that Mobile can get Into the Southern and that the local ownera will never consent to a division of the gate receipts on such a basts as proposed, the would-be finan ciers have decided to demand 12,600 before they will consent to give up this territory to the Southern League. But. to the observing man In the branches of the tree. It appears that the local magnates have the whip hand In the light nnd cku fun', the Cotton States to modify their demands. Secretary Colsaon, of the local or ganization. says positively there will be no Cotton States League ball In Mobile In 1606. and that if the South- ue Is kept out there will be iut Independent bull played In this city. In the event that the Cot ton States League place* a club In Mobile, and their right to do so Is not questioned, they would be forced to find a location and build a park, as f>r. Inge nnd hls associates have control of the Monroe Park ball grounds for next season. To secure grounds within a reasonable distance of the city, erect stands and other necessities would re quire an outlay on the part of the Cot ton States League of fully 620.000. And where la any one connected with the Cotton Slates League going to get 620,000 when there was not a club In the learue last season. Mobile except ed, that could raise money enough to buy twelve mileage books at 640 per book? Quite a difference between 620.- 000 and 64SO. And from the antl-Cot The sporting editor*# remarks In yes Lrday afternoon’s Georgian relative to a Thanksgiving Day game in Atlanta between a couple of Emory class teams la being widely commented on by Em ory students. Some take It os a joking Insinuation that Atlantans should en joy a scrub game on Thanksgiving Day In view of the fact that the 8. L A. A. can furnish nothing better, but the vast majority take It seriously and are anxious that such a game should be played. _ Of course Emory Is not In the S. 1. A. A. and Is not even allowed to de fect a prep team occasionally; but the athletic material, here Is up to the stnndard and the class games are far ■ rom being devoid of Interest. As an Illustration of the material Emory turns out. take Billy Wilson, of Tech, and Tom Fleming, who Is at present one of Georgia’s best gridiron men. So enthusiasts here argue why not give Emory a chance on Thankegivlng tc show the public what kind of games are played here every week? The Juniors and sophomores art the most evenly matched teams in college. Twice this season they have clashed and each Rattle has ended In a 0 to 0 score. Why not have these two teams play off the tie In Atlanta? Or why not select one eleven from the upper ar.d one from the under classmen for the holiday contest? The game is probably looked on a huge joke and will result In nothing, but the Emory student body Is thor oughly nrouxed and Is anxious to adopt Mr. Whiting’s suggestion. It Is cer tain that If at the meeting of the S. I. A. A. executive committee next Sat urday Tech Is not reinstated an Emory game will be an excellent, substitute for the onq which scheduled to take place on the 28th. (Note—Not a bad Idea, either. The ball played by the Emory teams is aald to be high class.—Sporting Ed.) PRESIDENT MATHES0N STATES HIS SIDE President Matheson's statement In regard to the presept athletic muddle, as far as Tech Is concerned, will be found below: "A* the executive committee of the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic As sociation will meet the latter part of thltf week to Investigate and decide these matters, of course It Is not In order for me to make statements rela tive to same. In view of certain per- States officers seem to think that draft Is legal, and. therefore, demand the hold-up price. The situation Is In a tangle, it Is true, and It Is rather hard to determine the outcome, but there Is one thing that la as certain as the sun rises and sets— Mobile has seen It* Iasi game of l-'otton Stales League baseball Will the fffi . Southern League be able to play In Mo- ton States League sentiment among the I bite next season? Is another perplexing local fans It seems improbable that the I question, and ons that time alone can organization could Interest that amount' answer. , of capital to finance a club In Mobile. It is hard to understand where the Cotton State* League gets the idea that 62.500 should be paid by Mobile for her release. According to the law of base ball, the Southern League can not draft Cotton States territory; but the Cotton Chicago University suggested* to me sonal Items which have been publish ed, however, I think It Just that a brief statement should bs mode Immediate ly. When the committee meet* I shall Insist upon every detail being made clear. It is but Just to state that during my Incumbency I have made diligent effort to assist Indigent and deserving student* to earn honest money to as sist In defraying their expense* while at school. Dr. Butler, president of the Columbia University, employs a hlgh- snlaried official whose sole duty It Is to secure remunerative work for stu dents. When I was taking graduate work there four years ago It was esti mated that over 60 per cent of the 6.000 students were either paying their way In part or whole through the uni versity by their efforts. This expe rience in connection with others at establishing an employment bureau here, necessarily on a smalt scale. At present, for Instance. 1 know of sixteen students of small means who are pay ing their way through Tech by their personal efforts. It happens that not one of the sixteen is on any athletic team. Along the line of our efforts, when I was asked at the beginning of the term If there would be' any objec tion to a student on the football team securing an agency at Tech for Daniel Bros., of Atlanta, said atudent to re ceive a commission on sales for bona, fide services to be rendered, I replied that I could see no objection to such a plan. I was positively Informed also that this plan was in operation In the case of a football man each at Vander bilt and Sewanee universities, and was approved by the officials of those in stitutions. As for some eight years we allowed students to pay their way through school by acting as agents for the various book companies from whom we purchased text-books, and as the plan had only been commended and never criticised, I felt further justified in my opinion. > "To be absolutely safe, however, when Professor Holmes, vice president of the 8. I. A. A., was In my office shortly after the plan was suggested, I submitted It to him. and he gave It his entire approval. This was my sole connection with the matter In hand. The atudent referred to was shortly afterwards taken sick, and now conva lescent at hls home. Some few of the card* provided by Daniel Bros, for him had been distributed, so I was Inform ed on Sunday last, though I knew ab solutely nothing of ihe matter until that time. Any of the cards secured from the etore In question which did not bear the signature of our student were entirely worthless, and would not be honored If presented for payment at Daniel Bros.’ store." Such Is the Prediction of the Local Tech Football Rooters. Because there Is no chance that the executive committee of the S. I. A will be able to clean up the case against Tech by noon on Saturday, It Is certain that the Tech-Mercer game will not be played Saturday ax scheduled. It Is not unlikely that Mercer and Clemson will play that day In Ma con. They are both short a game result of the suspension of Tech and Georgia, nnd will try to make It up by a clash In Mercer's home town. Both the Georgia and Tech teams am still at practice. It Is believed that the suspension of one or both of the teams will be iarsed when the executive com ndttee meets here Saturday, and both teams are doing everything possible to be prepared for Thanksgiving Day struggles. Tho Tech athletic nuthorltle very positive In their statement that they will be cleared of all charges made against them. It Is believed here that Tech will be back In good standing In time to play Clemaon Thanksgiving Day. But lr is likely to be a badly crippled team that lines up. Exactly five regular first team men were out for practice Tuesday after noon. They were Hill, Henderson, Smith; Brown and Fitzsimmons. Soma of the rest of the wreck* of November 16 were on the field and watching the play. "Chip" Robert waa also on hand and had an eye on the work, though he did not get In the scrlmmuge. Unlee* he gets a set-back he will be able to play Thanksgiving Day. Robert hopes to bo In the game by then. Davie Is hob bling around fairly well on hls bad ankle and threatens to bo In shape In a few days. About the rest of them there Is considerable doubt. Everybody here Is awaiting with In terest the meeting of the S. I. A. A. on Saturday. Local newspaper men will probably be barred from the hearing, but The Georgian will attempt to give Jhe fight by rounds. YALE WILL USE TRICKS. New Haven, Conn., Nov. 20.—Yal» will depend on trick football to win from Harvard Saturday. The team hat had no hard work since the game with Prlncjton, and signal practice has been poetponed for a few days. However, the 'varsity Is scheduled for today and this will be tho only scrimmage of the week. The squad departs tomorrow noon for Auburndale, near Cambridge. The work today will be aimed at de veloping the defenalve power of the eleven and the acruba will dash Har vard formation at them. Today the players visit Yale field for the last time this year, nnd the scrubs will burn their bandages, trapping* and odd bits ot uniform In the pltcur- e&que ceremony annually held as they dunce around the bonfire. A CHALLENGE. To Sporting Editor Atlanta Georgian: I am now back In Atlanta after a trip to Memphis, and am ready to meet any one between the weights of 111 and HO pounds—BUly Slim, Khl Kelly or Joe Trent. Prefer the meeting tj take place at once. I am under tns direct management of Jack Foy, Atlanta welterweight. Yours. EDDIE HAYES, Champion Featherweight of the South. Atlanta, Nov. 18, 1907. MERCER SCRUBS WIN. Special to The Georgian. Mllledgevllle, Ga., Nov. 20.—G. M. A and Mercer Scrubs met on the l°e*J gridiron here Monday In a well played game of football, Mercer Scrubs wh^ ■ling by one touchdown. Score 5 m ■ Although outweighed by roe*' pounds, the O. M. A. team he d tww heavy opponents at every point kept the ball In the Scrubs’ terrltofT throughout the greater part of hot* halves. STEIN KNOCKED OUT. Reading, Pa.. Nov. 20.—Before » crowd that packed the Natatorluni h* to the limit. Wlllla Fitzgerald, iw fighting harp, knocked out Kid F' elB j 1 Philadelphia. In th* sixth round a • bout scheduled for ten rounds.