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THE ATLANTA OEOEGLAN AND NEWS: WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 15, 1911.
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SPORTS I GEORGIA FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP DECIDED SATURDAY
EDITED BY
PERCY H. WHITING
NOT NEWS, BUT VIEWS
Some wholesome advice, entirely unsolicited, of course, is
handed out as to the coming Georgia-Tech game—What ought j
to happen if race track gambling invades Georgia.
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For the sixteenth and last time:
To the athletic authorities Of Tech and Georgia—Gentle
men: Don’t let the students of either college go on the field
before, during or after the game Saturday.
If you do, you are inviting trouble. And a few nice foot
ball ructions will result in the suppression of football in the
state colleges. The game doesn’t stand any too blooming well
with the iawmnkcrs right now* anyhow.
Also a word to the students of the two colleges:
Try to bear in mind that you are- the representative
young men of the state of Georgia. You are recruited from
the best families, you are educated largely at the same schools
—fact is. you are identically the same sort of folks.
There isn’t any just cause for ill feeling between the rep
resentatives of the two colleges, and there is no reason why
the athletic and other relations should not be friendly. .
It is up to the athletic authorities to try to promote friend
ly relations, for if not, the time must come when games be
tween the two schools will not be tolerated.
There's too much betting on these football games—not so
much among the students, but smong the alumni and friends.
The less betting on sporting events the better. The colleges
especially should frown on the practice.
By way of South Carolina comes the announcement that
the crowd of race horse folks which is inflicting horse racing,
and with it race track gambling, on South Carolina, is plan
ning to hold a meet in Augusta. If it is held over the river
aud, on South Carolina soil.
Georgians can only bewail the
laxness of the laws in the sister
state. But if it is held on Geor
gia soil, something ought to bo
done.
It might not be a bad thing if
some racing was shoved off on
Georgia. It might wake the re
form element up to the need of
protection from gamblers. The
present lack of an anti-handbook
gambling law is notorious and
disgraceful.
SOMETHING DOING SATURDAY, EH?
WELL WE SHOULD SLIGHTLY SAY!
Climax of the Local Football Season Will Be Reached When T ech and Georgia Meet to Play
for Championship of the State and Incidentally to Settle a Few Old Grudges—Both Teams
Are Thoroughly Wrought Up Over the Contest (and a Bit Scared, Maybe).
The Atlanta football season consists
of one same.
Tou can talk of the Thanksglvlns Cay
struggle, you can orate over the an
nual battle with Auburn. -n < ran yell
youraelf pink In the face uL.a the Ala
bama game, but you can't change one
rock-bottom fact, which la that every
thing before the H tch-Georgia game Is
merely prellmliihf y—that everything
after is antt-cllmax.
The Tech-Georgln game Is Atlanta's
whole football season, rolled into one
grand, grinding, glorious game.
Is there any wonder that Atlanta Is
pl-eyed wild and crasy right now over
the coming contest and that this mania
Is Increasing by tbe minute?
Wherever men congregate there Is
one real subject of conversation—that
game. The hardest crimp that the po
litical campaigns of the gubernatorial
candidates are getting comes from the
fact that they are second In Interest to
the real struggle.
It has been a season that has lent
Itself to a working up of Interest In the
game.
Tech Hat Surprised 'Em.
The day practice started It was about
twenty to one that Georgia was going
to win. After the Georgia team had
trimmed Sew&nee It looked like a three
or four to one bet. And now It'e even
money—with the bettore both waye
scared to a blue flunk over the out-
The recent Princeton-Dart-
mouth game ought to wake the
football rules committee up to a
change that must be made in the
code. In this famous game, with
the score 0 lo 0, DeWitt tried a
drop kick. It was a failure, and
the ball at the start did not get
over ten feet from the ground.
It bounded twice, tMn took a
weird bound and went over the
crossbar and between the goal
posts. Referee Langford called
it a field goal, and Dartmouth
was beaten out of a game that
should have been a tie. Of
course, the rules must be changed
so that flukes of this Character
do not count.
The full findings of the Na
tional Baseball Commiasion in
the case of the appeal of the
Giants for a share in the receipts
from the moving pictures has
just reached our hatidg. And,
now that we have perused it
fully, the commission’s answer
seems more futile and ridiculous
than ever before. The facts are
these: The Giants wei*e playing
in a scries' of games in which
they were entitled to a certain
specified share of the receipts.
Moving pictures of this series
were taken and the National
L'ommission pocketed the re
ceipts. After a somewhat long-
winded defense, the National
Commitaion did not get any
where at all. The substance was
that they got the money because
they got the money, and what
were the Giants going to do
about it?
Of course, it is a trifling mat
ter to the players, but the prin-
'•iple. looms big. If the commis
sion is to declare itself in on cer
tain money and everybody else
mt, on the sole grounds that it
's able to do it and get away—
well, what ia baseball coming to.
anyhow?
come.
The Georgia team haa played ball,
with a couple of depressing exceptions,
all the season. The Tech tearh, after
n weak start, ran wild and Is now play
ing a wonderful game.
A couplo of star men are Injured and
will be kept off each team. In this
things are about evened up. No Inju
ries thus far have disarranged the
amizing balance of things.
On Saturday afternoon the Tech and
Georgia teams will enter the game on
as even terms as they ever* did.* And
yet somehow nobody on earth Is really
looking for a tie game. It appears that
the team that gets the jump will win.
Hard Scrimmage at Tech.
Tech held one of the hardest scrim
mages of the year behind closed gates
Tuesday afternoon. The varsity and
scrubs went at It hammer and tongs all
afternoon.
Tho scrubs gained considerable ground
at times, but could not pull off any con
sistent gains. The varsity cut loose
everything to try out their ofTense. The
scrubs stopped some of It, but were be
wildered by some of the new plays.
A number of experts have claimed that
Tech was badly deficient in the use of
the forward pass, but from the form
shown yesterday Tech will enter Satur
day's battle, with some passes up their
sleeves that will work.
Tech Men A re Wild.
The Tech students are tremendously
excited over the game. Nothing else Is
talked of; everything has been dropped In
the preparation for this game.
The yeU leaders are working overt
and claim that by Saturday they can
a bunch of noise-makers In the field t—
would make the Indians ashamed of their
war whoops.
Mass meetings are being held every
night after supper. Friday at 11 o'clock
the biggest ■ mass meeting ever held at
Tech will be pulled off. The atudents and
teatn will then be worked up to the high
est point of enthusiasm.
The team os a whole Is In splendid con
dition and every man Is going Into the
Georgia game determined to put up the
fight of his life.
Any Old Victory Will Do.
Tech men are not estimating the score.
They will be satisfied to win by any score.
It Is believed here that the students will
be proud of this year's team, win or lose,
because of the splendid fighting spirit
they expected the team to show next Sat
urday.
Correct Weights of Men.
The following Is the correct weight of
each man who will start the game:
Black, le.. 165; Thomaaon. re.. 1(S; San
ches. rt.. 180; Sinclair. It.. 187; Means, nr..
165; Luehrman. Ip.. 158; Loeb. center, 141;
Goree, lh., ISO; cook. rh.. 160; Pfttterson,
fb., 176; Coleman, q., 154. This gives an
average of 164.6 pounds to the man. If
any of the subs are put In the game the
average will be ‘brought down consider
ably. as the heaviest sub wslghs only 160
pbuiids.
The Georgia team will probably weigh
170 pounds and Is considered faster than
the Tech bunch.
If the Jackets win It will be their supe
rior fighting spirit and staying powers.
ALAS, POOR MASCOT j
Charles Victory Faust, Giants’ repudiated and unsuccessful j
luck-bringer, swears he will never go back to the farm—May go {
on the stage if the baseball mascoting business goes bad. :
New York, ftov. 16.—While baaeball mascoting la somewhat of a loat
art juat at present, con't Imagine for a minute that Charles Victory Faust,
the prise mascoteer of them all, haa any notion of packing up hla duds and
returning to the old farm at Marlon, Kans. No, Indeed!
The bright lights have lured Charles Victory away from the btieollc
tastes of his youth, and, by Ginger, he's going to stick.
As the man who made Marlon, Kans., famous lounged In id parlor ,-»r
chair the other night with his head resting on a strip of white linen, it
might have been that he realized that his days of Idle luxury were at an end.
We might have Imagined that he was dreaming of the day when he would
have to return to the plowshare. But If you had guessed such a thing you
would have lost. Charles Victory not only sees a life of maacotlng ease
ahead of him, but ho Is now trying to hunch the bet a little by suggesting
to McGraw that he haa a brother who can pitch and mascot Just as well as
the redoubtable Charles Victory himself.
ISN'T GOING BACK TO THE FARM.
"Are you thinking of returning to the farm?" I asked Charles V. as he
lighted a 60-cent cigar that had been given him—not by me.
"Naw," he replied, “I ain't thought uv that for a long time."
"Well, now that you have seen Broadway, do you like that better than
the farm?"
"I was dumed tired of the farm long afore I left It." answered Mr.
Faust. "And the more I see of New York the tlreder I git of the farm. I
ain’t goln' back at alt.”
It was suggested to Charles V. that as baseball was at an end and as the
Giants had lost the championship, there would be little work left In his tine.
"I ain't botherin’ about that," he replied with a knowing smile, and his
eyes almost closed In a wise squint. "There’s plenty of work for me on the
stage If I want to take It. I've got live weeks offered me at $100 a week, but
I ain't certain what I'll do.”
"You had better grab that money while you can," spoke up McGraw,
who hod been listening. “You know the snow falls pretty thick around here
In the winter.”
"That's all right,” replied Faust with that same mysterious smile. "I'll
kit thru It some way."
"Don't you want to go on the stage?" I asked.
"Yes and no," was the sage reply. "It's all right In Its way, but they
make me show my spikes to the people to prove that I am a real ball player
I am mightily afeered that I'll hurt my leg doing that some day, and I won't
be able to pitch for Mr. McGraw next spring.”
HAS RICH BRIDE AWAITING HIM.
At the thought of having to put up with Faust again next spring Mc
Graw fell bkek with a groan. This wai
CARTOONIST MARTIN’S IMPRESSION OF THE GREAT GRIDIRON MATCH
local Car Will Be
In Savannah Races
prize
. tug racing u
tttabliahed along the grmi...
at Savannah, the moat Interesting
;® will be that of the Studebaker
^rporatlon, three of whoae E-M-F •*30"
?.[* hav ® °®® n entered In the race for the
'iweman trophy—the even for cars of
«** than 281 cubic Inchex platon dis
placement.
The Studebaker coterie wit be unique
n tha fact that the factory itself la not
directly, three cars being tn-
•jed by private Individuals, all of whom
'oun[ry Went * d!ffer * nt P* rti of tht
.,,2®® the care la the property of C. H.
^rr.freon, of West Hoboken. N, J.: one
fcY George W. Hannon, of At-
Ga.; the third Is the private road-
«»er of Paul smith, of Detroit,
pa.f "Iraeraon la known all over the
M a sportsman whoso chl*f delight
r. T 10 !** racing. His E-M-F ‘'JO.'* with
[•ck Tower at the wheel, made virtually
v* “weep of the events In its class
’7’he eastern tracks this summer, wln-
a total of fifteen races out of twenty
•r’* and virtually destroying all cont
ention, as. In the latter part of the sea- page.
GIANTS START
TOWARD CUBA
Will Play Few Games in Florida
and Then Jump to the Is
land for a Month.
N.w York, Nov. 16.—The Giants, un
der tho leadership of Frank Bancroft,
of Cincinnati, started today for Cuba,
where they will play agalnat the leading
teams for a period of about one month.
Before Anally leaving the state., the
Giant, will atop off at Jacksonville and
Miami and will play aeveral games In
order to get In condition. At Key West
they will play one more game and then
cross over to Havana.
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NEWS OF THE “BIG THREE” TEAMS
New Haven, Nov. 15.—Yale Is in
her usual color on the eve of a great
game. The largest aggregation of
roaches seen here this season are
today in an unsettled frame of mind
and the varsity will be given a hard
day's work aa a reeult of their poor
showing yesterday. Indeed, It was
so disappointing that the coaches
ordered the aquad out for evening
drill last night and they were kept
at It for more than an hour In the
hope that Individual coaching would
be able to correct some of the glar
ing defects In team play.
Home of the formations which are
being banked upon to beat Prince
ton on Saturday have been tried
with but little success, and yesterday
their execution was so ragged that
the coaches gave up trying to make
the team work, finally ordering the
evening rehearsal.
HelTelflnger, Yale's greatest
guard, has arrived from St. Paul
to aid In the coaching. Among the
coaches now here are Ralph Bloom
er, Tom Shevlln, Dewitt Cochrane
and HelTelflnger.
HARVARD 8CRIMMAGE8 HARD.
Cambridge, Mass. Nov. 15.—Con
trary to expectations, the Crimson
varsity Is going to have a couple
of hard scrimmages today. Follow
ing the sturdy work of yesterday,
when the first-strong men received
pretty rough practice, the eleven
will be given workouts today and
tomorrow In the hopes of smoothing
out the plays that are being worked
for Yale.
The Harvard rush line has again
been changed. Storer waa shift -
ed from center to right tackle, and
Parmenter went to center. Par-
menter Is a good player, but has
had little opportunity this season.
TIGER KICKER8 PRACTICING.
Prinoeton, N. J. Nov. 15. Willi
one more day for real work, the
Tiger team turned out for a long
and hard practice for tht Yale
game. ,
Careful attention Is being given
to tbs punters. DeWitt and An
drews are coached to kick In scrim
mage formation, while the new flnd,
Baker, practices at drop kicking.
Baker dropped over a few neat
goals from the 10-yard line yester
day. DeWitt, Vaughan, Hart and
White ure not allowed to gel Into
scrimmages and the coaches do not
Intend to take any chances of Injur
ing uny of the best players.
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HANDSOME PRIZES OFFEREDjGordon-Sfone Mountain Game
FOR CLUB’S CROSS-COUNTRY
Entries for the Atlanta Athletic
club's cross-country run of Thanks
giving morning close In slightly over a
week and at preaent only a few teams
have formally been named. However,
a large number of entries have been
promised and perhaps 40 or 50 men will
get away for the dash around' Atlanta.
The Athletic club haa decided to offer
a cup for the winning team and gold,
silver and bronse medals to the men
who finish one-two-three In the event.
Maris: college will doubtless lead all
Institutions In the number of entries
Probably there will be at least fifteen.
Five men will constitute the regular
team and the rest will run Independ
ently. The Athletic club Itself will not
have more than a couple of entries, ac
cording to present indications. But
these two will be Carl Smith and Joe
Gridin, who finished first and third In
the prep school cross-country run last
year. Teams will be put In by Stono
Mountain. Boys High echool, Tech,
Boys club, Y. M. C. A. and the Capitol-
ave. Athletic club.
son. enough rival cars could not be found
to fill out a race program In this class.
Mr. Slmerson was the one who started
the ball rolling by making the first entry
at Now*Savannsh Is In Georgia. So la
Geo. Hanson, s sportsman who cher
ishes proclivities much like those of Mr.
Slmerson. Thru Georgia and the western
South, Mr. Hanson I* everywhere recog
nised a. ne plu. ultra In speedmaking.
His exploits with rsclng E-M-F "W and
FUnders '•»" ears have filled many a
As manager of the famous l-M F
"Bullet." the 100.000-mlle car. h* won
national fame.
With everything shaped up for a neat
duel. Paul Smith took a hand. He Is the
general soles manager of tha Studebaker
corporation, and he still shows with pride
the trophies he won as sn amateur In the
early days of rsclng around Indianapolis.
The speed Infection broke out again. Ho
handed over his own personal car to
Frank Witt, the factory's race driver, and
told Frank to dlf '—
and get tbs car
To Decide Prep Championship
What the Tech-Ueorgla football game
Is to the college athletics of the state
the Gordon-Stone Mountain contest Is
to the preps. And with the prep cham
pionship set for decision Saturday
morning and the college event that aft
ernoon the Gate City will certainly
have one full day of football.
Preparations no less vigorous than
thoee for the college battle are being
made by the prepe. From Gordon comes
the rumble of scrimmages and from
Stone Mountain the thump-thump of
hard practice.
Coach Graham's Stone Mountain
team has played In moderately hard
luck In loelng two great players Just on
the eve of the game. Both Blaslngama
and Norton, the former the team’s cap
tain, are out of It. Blaalngame hes
been called away by the Illness of hit
father. Norton Is down with appen
dicitis.
However, Coach Graham has not de
spaired and Is doing the best ha can
by filling the gaps with substitutes and
by working the team twice as hard aa
ever before. It Is a cinch that Stone
Mountain will make a grand showing,
no matter what the outcome may be.
Championship Bout
May Be Called Off
Lot Angtltte Nov. 16.—'That he will re
fuse to accept Jack Welch aa referee, that
"Cherokee" Tom Jonea tampered with the
articles of agreement after they had j been
signed, and that the Thanktgltfng day
made by Freddy
plonahlp may be .....
ntartllng statement
Welsh.
"After seeing tha way Welch allowed
Wninst to 'rough house’ Owen Moran. I
that It would be suicide for me
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Baron
vising me
r tnai it wouin oe suiciae ror me
d for Jack as referee," said Walsh
Long tlegraphed me last night ad-
me to rail off the match rather
DOBBS TALKS
OF HIS TEAM
Looks for a Strong Bunch of
Pretzels Next Year, But
Has Gaps to Fill.
the first Intimation that he had re
ceived of Faust's Intention to be on
hand for spring training. But what Is
he going to do!
Charles Victory Fhust Is Just ns sum
to be at Marlin when the Giants get
there next March ns you are of getting
a rent bill. He can’t be stopped ns long
as there are railroads and people to
talk to.
“What Is It you have on your mind,
Charley?" several of us asked In nn ef
fort to flnd out what thought lay be
hind that mysterious smite. Red Mur
ray came along In a minute and tho
secret was out
"Are you thinking about Lulu?" naked
Murray, who, by the way, Is Faust's
manager when he makes speeches on
the trains.
"Uh-huh," snickered Faust at he
bashfully admitted the corn, “that’s It."
In case the public Is not so familiar
With Faust's private affairs as are the
ball players and the newspaper men
who have traveled with the team, it
might be well to explain that tho same
fortune teller who told Faust that he
was to be a great ball player and Join
the Giants also told him that there wns
a rich bride waiting for him somewhere
In California. And Faust believes ll
sincerely. Her name Is Lulu, but that
Is all that Charles V. knows. He hasn't
got her last name yet.
Now that his mascoting days are a I
an end, Faust Intends to use eome of
the money he gets out of the world's
aeries—Just how he's going to get It he
doesn't know yet—for a trip to Cali
fornia In search of the mysterious
Lulu. Ho think* ho will flnd her In
Los Angeles. At least, that Is the pres
ent dope.
"When I git out there," says Charley,
"I'll go to all the moving picture shows
with my dress suit on. and I flggcr that
111 see her In the pictures. Then I'll
git her." And there you are.
“I ain’t goln' back to the farm, tho,"
he added with determination. "'Cans-
there ain't no change to git massaged
and manicured there."
Be It known that Charley must have
his massage and manicure every morn
ing or he can't pitch.
Colton States Will
Stick to Six Clubs
Montgomery, Ale., Nov. 15.—Mont
gomery will have a strung team In
lilt as In 1»U, say- John Dobbe, the
manager of the locul ball club. Dobbs
•pent Sunday In the city. He waa on his
way to San Antonio, Texas, to attend
the meeting of the National Aegodatloa
of Baseball Clubs. In speaking of the
prospects for next year, Dobbe spoke
enthusiastically, an daatd:
"Montgomery will have a strong, if
not a stronger, baseball team In 1(1?
than It had In 1(11. I am on my way
to 8an Antonio to attend the meeting
of the National Association of Baseball
Clubs and while there I expert to make
several deals for players for the coming
season. I need two or three pitcher^ a
first and second baseman, and two out
fielders. These positions are the weak
places of the team at present, owing to
the fact that Graham, Pratt and Daley
were either sold or drafted and Bill
Bailey recalled by St. Louis,”
In speBklng of the team. Manager
Dobbs said: "At first base l have Web
ber as the only man to depend upon,
but I want another good man and I will
let them fight for the position. Second
base le vacant. Derrill Pratt will very
likely make good In the majors, but If
he does not he will be sent to eome
other club. 1 do not expect that he will
be returned to Montgomery, and, there,
fore, I must hunt up material for the
keystone position and expect to get a{
least two contendere for the place.
“At short 'Humpty* McElveen will be
back, and at third the old reliable Bill
Elwert will evidently hold on to the
ofr-etde base. In the outfield Joe Bills
and Happy Smith still remain, but It
will be hard work to fill Jud Daly's
place, and I will have to huatle for ma
terial to fill hie place in the outer gar
den.
"The pitcher's box, however. Is my
chief worry. Of course I have Frank
Sparks, who won over half rt hla games
In the past season; Doc Thomas, who
was In and out, and Lellvelt. I am
sorry Ve slipped up on Bagby, aa be
Jackson, Mite., Nov. 15.—While several
srrri" r T" L or f ™ nch L*«" "> > h « cotton
league have been made recently.
President A. Lewis has not as yet re
ceived any formal applications and un-
less the matter Is brought before th.
board of director* In more tangible form
the organisation will remain a six-tenm
circuit.
It has been Intimated to the league dl-
1/MnPH rim» < * ..In. rt^i.. .
rector* Unit Greenville, Columbus
hatches, In this state, Baton House
Monroe and Alrxnndrlu, In Loulalana. and
Pine Bluff and Helena, in Arkansas, might
desire to Join the circuit. None of these
tentative proposals Is likely to receive
admission.
For Instance, th* director* would douht-
less grant franchises to Green Wile and
Columbus, should they apply Jointly, or to
Baton Rouge and Notches, os the admis
sion of these towns would not odd heav
ily to the season's mileage.
It la not probable that there will be anv
developments In th* matter until nfter
the Cbrletmas holidays, aa It la a difficult
matter to atir up baaeball enthusiasm
anywhere when a cold wave Is keeping
the public mind far removed from the Sal'
park*. *
Mercer Will Play
Game in Columbus
Columbus, Ga., Nev. 15.—Manager Smith
of the Mercer football team, has wired
hla acceptance of the offer to meet the
Clemson college team hare next Vatu
U. S. B. TEAM 8CRIMMAGES. +
-I- Stone Mountain, Now. 15.—The +
+ first real scrimmage In prepara - +
+ tlon for the Gordon game In At- +
+ lanta Saturday morning, wns +
+ held by the Stone Mountain play- +
+ era on Tuesday. The supreme +
+ effort of the season Is being nude +
+ to get In trim for the Gordon +
+ game. +
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would have made a great hurler f<
next year. I am going to try hard
the Ban Antonio meeting to get I
Bailey returned.”