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•s-th THE ITC^ZTIL ^, V^Z'g' MOMlyO. JUNE 2 1885. MICE FIVE CENTS. HiZPAH AND HBR DBADw/ BY ASSrE CUSER, Ace Rizpab, the daughter o£ Alab, took sack* Cloth *cd spread It for her upon the rock t from the beginning ot the harvest until water dropped Upon than out of Heaven, and suffered neither the Lite’s of the air to rest upon them by day, nor the bersts ot the field by night. O’er Jpdah’s plains the sun was sinking low, 33ic barley corn gleamed iroUIea in the light Of hfelsn rays, which seemed to linger o’er The bright green sod, that tmt a short while smoe Had been so barren, wmte and weird. All hearts Were merry, for Into the fields wore thrust The sit kies now that had twen laid aside For time long years. But on Glbeah's hUl 1 Far away, the sun must another scene Behold, ere beyond billowy deep He sinks to reit. Ah! ’twas the mangled forms — / Oise nil brarc sons—sons and grandsons of him Whose hi ad and shoulders towered above all Other It real! tes. There were two Who, in the bloom 011U«, had tho* been ta’ea An ay, sud over them a form was bent - A woman’s form, in EAczdoth all arrayed. Hollow were her checks, and wan, while chis> eled On the broad, white, pensive brow, were fur- - tows, Xonn and deep. In every lineament Of that i'flie faded face was sorrow traced, , Sorrow that woman's heart alone can know, Anguish that mother’s hearts alone can feel, . Ever end anon over verdant fields Her dim and languid ejes she casts; once more Khe veils them in her heavy sackcloth folds. J-xicx who wepi o er Kama* ueau, am In bitter lamentations she broke forth. “FIST VS. BRAIN." Brooklyn, N. Y., May 31.—[Special.]—Dr. Talmage preached this morning in the Brook- Jyn Tabernaclo on the subject, “Fiat versus 2Jrain.” Before tho sermon he read passages from the book of rrovorbs and from one of tho epistles, tho ono in regard to slothfalness and tho other in regard to insoiBclent compensa tion. The opening hymn was: 'The morning light is breaking, Tho darkness disappears; Tho sons of men aro waking To penitential tears.” Tho text was from Matthew vii, 12: “What soever ye would that men should do to you, do yo even so to them.” Dr. Talmago said: The greatest war tho world has ever seen is that going on bctwcon labor and capital, not , a strife like the thirty years’ gore of which History tells us, for this is a war of centuries. It is a war of five centuries, a war Hemispheric. In this country tho middlo - claiEce who have held tho bal&uco of power and upon whom tho nation has depended as meditators between tho two extreme ate diminishing and at the samo ratio wo will Boon have no middlo class, for all tho people krill bo very rich or very poor and tho country Bo oividod beiweon princes anJ paupers, fcetwicn palaccc and hovel*. Tho two groat antsgonutic forces arc closing in upon each other. “Telegraph operators’ strikes,"“rail road employes &trikos,” “Pennsylvania miners’ strikes,’’ the movements on tho part of boycotters and dynamiters, aro only nkirmishes boforo tho gonoral engagement, or If you profor, they aro escapes through tho gaiety valvo of an imprisoned foroo that promises the explosion of society. You may pooh-pooh it and prophesy that ihis trouble likoan angry child will cry itself fo sleep, and think you havo belittled it into Snslgnificanco by calling it socialism, louricrlem, St. Simonism, nihilism communism, but that cannot hinder tho fact It Is tho mightest, darkest, most terrific throat of this century. Moreover, all tho attempts St pacification havo been a dead failure. Mo- ttopoliits aro more arrogant, trados unions more bitter. “Givo us moro wagos,” cry tho employes; “Wo will givo you less,” respond the capitalists. “Givo ua less hours of work,” pay these; “You shall havo moro” say thoso. ‘•Wo won’t work under such conditions’ cry Ihcso; “Then you shall starve" respond those. Soon tho laboring classes will havo .exhausted what littlo prosperity thoy # had ac cumulated under a better state of things, and unless there bo something douo there will be In ibis country throo million hungry men and women. Woll, throo million jhungry people cannot be kept quiet. All tho enactments of legis latures, and all the constabularies of tbe cities and all the army and navy of tbe United Stales cannot keep thorn quiet. What then? ■Will capital and labor ever settle their quar- ycl by their own wisdom? No. The brow of the one will be moro rigid and tho fist of tho other tighter clenched. But what secular wia- ' dom cannot do Christianity can accomplish if * It bo given full awing. You have heard ot medicines so powerful that ono drop would Stop a disease and restore tho patient, and ono drop of my text will kill all this trouble and give convalescence and health to all claiae3: ** Whatsoever ye would that men should do to you. do yo even so to them.” The pulpit must be beard on this subject. When Benjamin Franklin made his discoveries 5n electricity, John Wesley put electrical machines in several neighborhood that pooplo might by them be healed ofthoir nervous dis orders. Our gospel is a gospel for the body as well at the soul. Fint, I will show you how this capitalistic war won’t bo atoppod and then how it will be stopped. First, it will not bo stopped by an outcry against rich men because they aro rich. There is not a member of a trades union in tho United Btatcs who would not be rich if be could. Sometimes through fortunate inven tion or some accident of prosperity a man Vrtth nothing rises w affluence, and he imme diately becomes supercilious and overbearing, and takes people by tho throat with as tight a grip at he himself was taken by the throat. Homan ’ nature is a mean thing when it comes te tho Bupremacy. It is no more a sin to be rich than to oo poor, while there aro men whohave got their property by fraud, there aro million They build art galleries and endow colleges and adorn cities ami erect churches, and if foreign despotism should threaten us would subscribe, if need be, fifty million dollars .to aink them boforo they got through tho Xar row?. By indiscriminate attack upon success you can never settle this fight. Neither will Ihfa pacification como through cynical and unsympathetic treatment of tne laboring classes. Borne talk of-them as though they woro cattle or droit horses. Their nerves are nothing. Their tastes are nothing. Their domostic comtort is nothing, and there aro men who have no moro feeling for the,toilers than the hound has for the hare or a hawk for tbe hen or a tiger for the calf, In warm slippers what do they care for cold feet. When Jean Yaljean, the grandest horo of Victor Hugo, after a life of mistortuno goes down into incarceration and doath, they abut the book in exultation and aay, ’Good for him 1* They stamp tho foot in regard to those people and say just the opposite of <Savo the laboring classes.* Their sympathies are with Sbylock rather than with Antonio and Portia. Plutocrats, their feelings are simply infernal. They are irritation and irascibility, and to ward the settlement of this imbroglio betwoen labor and capital they will givo not tho tip end of the little finger. Tho assassination of Lord Frederick Caron dish and Mr. Burke in Phasnlx park, Dublin, Irelend, in hoping to avenge Ireland, turned from that afflicted land the sympathies of millions of people. Tho recent attempt to blow up the houso ot commons in London threw tens of thousands of Irish out of em ployment and livelihood. Torches in this country applied to factorise which cut down wages, shotguns aimed at workmen who take the place of bands resigned or hands discharged lor good or bad reason, obstructions put on railroad tracks before midnight express trains becauso tho oflendera do not like tho president of the company, strikes which le&vo the •hip the hour It was going to tail or the printing office the hour the paper was to go to press, or tho eoal mints the dsy the coal was to bo delivered, or the houso scaffolding tho day when their ab sence would mako the builder fail in hia con tract—all these things have givon American labor a blow on tho head and crippled its arms snd bound its feet and pierced it through the heart. Take tho last great striko Is Amer ica—tbe telegraph operators strike, and the loss to tho operators was $100,000, and poorer wages crer since. Neither sudden trap sprung upon employers nor violenco ever untied the knots from the knuckles of toil, or put moro money into tho callous palm. Barbarism will never euro the wrongs of civili zation. Frederick tho Great wanted tho property of a miller adjoining tho grounds near Potsdam. Tho king offered tho miller threo times tho voluo of the aires who by foresight of changes to take place in markets or business brilliancy won thefr property as honestly as the plumber ever earned bis money fer mending a pips ora ma son lor building a wall. With vast multitudes of people the poverty ia their own fault. They might have been well off, but they smoked or ' drank up their earning* or they lived beyond iheir means. Men on the same wages or sau ries es they had went on to competency. I know men who complain of their poverty who keep two don tad smoke and chew ami go loaded to the chin with whisky and beer. Mi- cawber in prison for debt b reported as saying to David Copperfield: “My boy: income, ona pound; expenses, twenty shillings and six pence; result, mise ry. Income,one pound: expenses, nineteen shillings and six pence; result, happiness.” A vast multitude of the poor are tho victims of their own improvident*. I protest against the asiault of men who through economy and eelf-denial *nd assiduity have amused great fortunes. TU&k God for boa*! rick mo* as Naboth did about hia vinoy&rd whon Ahab wanted it. Frederick tho Great was & rough and tcrriblo man and ho ordcrod the miller into his presence. Tho king flourish ing a slick with which ho was sometimes ac customed to strick tho officers of state, said to tho miller: “I have offered you threo times tho value of your property and ifyou will not sell it I will take it anyhow.” Tho miller re plied calmly: “Your majesty will not tako it.” “Yes I will" yelled tho king. “Then” re plied the miller, “1 will sue you boforo tho chancery court.” Then tho king relinquished his demand. So tho most Imporious of out rage* against tho poor and tho hard-working cLlH cower before tho law. Wrongs will bo righted not by violence and against tho law but by juetiro and according to law. Yet all attempts at reconciliation belwoon labor aad capital so far hiving failed, and tho two standing with their thumb* on each oth er's throat ready for strangulation, it be hooves us to look ©verywhoro for relief. And from my text it bounds out, roscato and jubi lant, and putting ono band on the broadcloth shoulder of Capital,puts tho other hand on tbo hemespun covered shoulder of Toil, and Bays with a voice that will finally and gloriously settle everything: “Whatsoever yo would that men should do to you. do you even so to them.” That is, tho ladyoflho household will say: “I must treat tho maid in tho kitoh- cn as 1 would like to bo treated if I cooked and washed and swept down stairs andahe entertained In tbe parlor.” And tho maid in the kitchen must say: “If that lady upstair* accmamdro fortunato than I, her prosperity is not fo bo set down as a fault and I will man- ago her affairs with an industry and fidelity, euch as I would expect from a subordinate if I happened to bo tho wile of a silk importer.” Tbe manufacturer will look over his resour ces and Bay: “l mean to do tho boat for ray employes that I can, and I will treat them in thu matter of wages aft I would like to be treat ed if I turned tbo iron bar in tho furnace, or stood at tho factory wheel, or had my foot on tho treadle." And tho toiler will say: “Though my f ace ba smirched with the fur nace and my hand hardened on the wheel, I must be a gentleman and I will notact as though my employer wero an enemy and I will do my duty among these wheels as well as though I were up in the counting room among tho ledgers.*’ The iron manufacturer, having taken a dose of my text before ho left home in tho morning, ia walking through tho foundry, ond passing through the “puddling room,” where are the men, besweated and stripped to tho waist, tho employer Bays: “Good morning, Donald. You look uncomfortablo in this heat. I hear your child is sick with tho frarkt fever. If you want to draw your wages a little early this weok to buy medi cines and pay the nurse, just come into my cilice." Passing along into tho “finishing room,” he aecs a young man very white and pallid acd hardly able to stand up to his work, and tho employer aeya: “I guess you don’t feel very well to-day—better rest a littlo once in a while. What aro you taking for this illness? Call at my house to-niglit and I will give you a vial of medicine tnat will set you right up.” “Thank you," aays the workman, as ho sweeps his arm across his forehead, taking off tho beads of sweat, for God knows he is more fit to be in bed than there. ] After a while crash goes tho monoy market and the demand for manufactured goods ceases, and the question fs whether to shut up the mill or run on half time or lower the wages. The boss calls all his hands together. They stand around him wondering what he is irgtodo. He saya: “Men. the times aro ird, tho demand for our work is very small. Whero luted to make a hundred dollars I don’t moke twenty. You aee, 1 am under great expense here, now what shall I do. I hate to dose up and throw you out of employment, foryou have been very faithful, and I like you and you seem to like me, and you have families totupj. n, aud tUo bairns must be take*ear*, of, and the wife must have a new dress before long. What shall I do?” Silence fora minute or two, and then one ot the workmen steps a little forward from the others and fays: “Bon, you havo been good to us. When you protrered, we prospered. Now, when you are hard pressed and propose that if you will keep the place open we throw off twenty per cen* of our wages, acd ae soon as times get better you will remember us. Boys, Ellin favor of my motion will say aye.” “Aye! Ayel” about the two hundred voices. After awhile the manufoeturer while getting in acme new msebienry takes a cold ana falls tick of the pneumonia. In tbe procession to tbe tomb are the workmen with sad feces, tbe Uera running clear down tbe ebeek and off on tbe ground, and their wives and chil dren have been waiting an hour at tbe open crave in the cemetery tor tbe arrival of tbe funeral pageant. Tbe minister may have de livered eloquent eulogism, but the most Im pressive utterances are by tbe working classes who a tend around tbe last resting place. “Dear me, is it not sad?” “Hew good he was to us all!" “We shall never havo so kind a lriC24 again.” “Don't you remember wh*a oar Charlie died ho sent hia carriage to take us to tho grave?” “Oh, ia it not dreadful for his wife and children? God pity thorn I” And tfcht night in all tho cabins where the toilora have family pravera tho wid owhood and orphanage up in tho mansion are remembered. No irate population acowllug through the iron fenco of tho cemetery, but hovering over all the scone the benediction of God and man. “Whatsoever yo would that tho storehouses, tho factories, tho rainos, tho great enterprises whero this Christly rtt'o i-* practiced and you could no moro got tho em ployer to impose on hi* men, or the men : conspire against their employer, than you could get your right hand and left baud, or ycur right eye and your left eye, or your right ear and your left ear into physical antagonism. The place to begin ia in our own homo and iu cur own itorchouscs and in our own banks and on our own farms and in our own footer i< - not waiting for others to do their duly. Aro your parlor or kitchen a * divergence? Then there Is something wrong either about the parlor or the kitchen. Ara the clerks of your store out of patience wi'.k the firm? Then tbero is something wrong either at the counter or In tho private office. What the world wants moat grievously, want* to-day and wants ovorywhero is the gold-.:: rule that Christ promulgated in his sermon Olivette. All tho political economists under thearchivaultof tno Heavens in convention for a thousand years will' never silence thi i maddened controversy between Fiat and Brain, between operative and monopolist. During the revolutionary war a piece of heavy timber was being raisod for army pur poses and a corporal was overseeing it done, shouting to tho men who wero lifting, “heave away! Yo, heave!” A horseman riding along self and help thoso mon lift: it La more than, thry can do.” “Oh,” repliod tho officer, “I’m a'corporal.” Then tho man on horseback dismounted and laid hold of tho timber aud lifted witn all his might. Tho work done, tho man laid: “Corporal, when you have not meu enough to attondtoa job liko that, send for your commendor-in-chief.” It web Washing ton. Oh, let ua givo c&ch other a lilt. You say the law of supply and demand wQl control everything to tho end of timo. No; it wh! not union Lir.,1 dies mid tho batteries -,f the judgement are spikod and tho throne of tho univereo is taken by Pluto and Proser pine, tho king and quocn of the imperial world. 6upply and demand havo joined part nership and put their wits together to rob tho world. You are drowning and thoy stand on tbo shore beside tho only boat aud aav: “Pay what wo ask or go to tho bottom l” You aro failing in business for lack of Hyo thousand dollars. They aev t “Pay ua usury or bccomo bankrupt I” This robber firm of supply ond domand says: “Tho wheat, crop Is short and wo havo bought It up tied put it in cur bin. Pay our price or starve I" Supply and demand own tho lar gest mill on earth, and it rolls ovor its whool &U tho rivers and puts into its hopper as many men, women ond children as It can scoop up out of tho centuries, and their blood and bones redden all tbo valleys os tho grinding goos on. As euro as tho ages roll toward milennial re lease, that diabolical firm will have to stop aside for tho law of love, tho law of coopori- tion, the law of mercy, tho lnw of Christ. As tho law takes swny you will see m< n men consecrating thoir life to humanUar ! r:i and evangelical purposes like James Lt-r. t end William K. Lodge, «ud Polar Cooper Gcorgo Peabody. More parka and gardens and picture galleries will bo oponed for thd people’s. holidays. Tho pallor will go out of. thg cheeka “lihe wqjVmen and tho frown ofli hia brow anu*the guifluiug oa*' of his tceUjV That day will surely como. Once crossing tho Alleghany mountains it was said that Henry Clay,while tho atago coach was halting, went to the edge of tho mountain and put hia hand behind bis ear as if to listen and aomo ono asked him what ho was listening for and beiaid: “lam listening to tho coming on of thefuturo millions of this country.” To-day I stand On this mountain top ot Christian privi lege and on tbo Bock of Ages, aud I listen to the coming on of tho happy industrioa and tho consecrated fortunes, anti tho smiling popula tion* and the innumerable prosperities of tho closing nineteenth and tho oponing twentieth centuries. While I speak there lie* in atato tho great author and patriot of France, Yiotor Hugo. The ten thousand dollars ho left to the poor of Paris in his will woro only a hlntot the grand er work ho has dono for all nations and all eges. No wonde r thoy allowed ton days to elapse between his death and burial, hooping him under triumphal arch, for neither Franco nor tho world can hardly afford to lot him go, though for moro than eight decades hia un- pru.-iTlclfd genius has blessed it. II iB name thall forever stand the terror of despots, tho encouragement of tho struggling. Ho has made tho world’s burden lighter and its darkness less dense and its chain Ices galling and its thrones of iniquity Ices eecure. But after all ho was not tho groat nnd over towering friend of mankind. The greatest friend of capitalist and toller ond tho one who aball bring them Into com plete nrrord was burn on a Christmas night while the curtains of tho sky swung as thero moved among them tho wings angelic. Owning all tho universe, tbo great continents of worlds and the aialca of light, the capitalist of immensity, he erotica over to the poor man's condition, coming into our world, not by palace gate, but door ol barn, tpeuding hia first night among shepherds and afterwards calling fishermen from their nets to be his chief attendants, with tho hammer, and adze, and saw, and ax and chisel of a carpenter’s shop, showing him self a brother tradesman, accepting ontortain- n.cnIs at tbe houso of ono who tanned hides living, and though having own ed all things surrendering everything for others on the hillock back of Jcrucalem, and without a ihcckcl left lo pay for his obsequies was burled by charily in tho suburbs of a city which had cast him out. Assuredly, ot tho cross and £77vo of mch rapitniin and carpenter, i ll men can afford to shake hands and worship. Here ia an every man’s Christ. None so high but ho was higher. None to poor but he was poorer. At his feet the hostile extremes of so ciety will renounce their animosities and countenances that glowed in tbe pnjadieies end revenges of centuries shall brighten into the smile of heaven ss he says to them: “Whatsoever ye would that mon should do to you, do yc even so to them.” POINTS ABOUT ATLANTA. SAM JONES TALKS, AND TELLS THB STORY OF HIS LIFE AND MISSION. The Beasen why H* Speaks la the Vernacular of tha People-Zrrors About Hie Life Corraoted-Tao Effect of His MiMlonsry Labors-the WseiUUcs for Qoapel Work. AUaslaisthetbJidtraslestclty In America. See ccmp«ndJaia of census, page 1132. Lawrence, Lowell and Fall Elver alone o! all American cities equal Atlanta in proportion of artisans to popula tion, Atlanta has a higher elevation above tbe sea than any American city of moro than 20,000 people except Denver, Leadvllle and Omaha. Atlanta has never failed In anything she under took. The artesian well looks a little doubtful, butwcsio within a few uDc-s of China with that and wc are going ahead until we strike either water or tea. Atlanta received 1L0G$ hake of cotton la veil In 1M4 over ICO,000. Next year she will get 200,000. The Hon. Philo Parsons? of Detroit, said: “If I was 25 yean old I should move to Atlanta at once. I shall advise all young men I have an Interest tn, and who are not bound by local In ter eat, tods juit that thing.” Atlanta put over 1900*00) in talM’nn last year outside of the Kimball house. In spite o! the hard lines. From tho Nashville, Torn., American. After tbo ovangolist’s remarkable talk to tho negroes had closod yesterday morning, a representative of tho American accompanied tho modern Bav&narolo to his comfortable rooms at a rcsidonco on Spruce stroot and while a lemonade was roviving tho jaded forces of tho revivalist, tho conversation balow ensued. Aa you ait in thfs kind of close com munion with tho man a refinement is ob served in his features and general bearing that do not appear in tho pulpit. Ho la a little distant at times, seeming to think and spoak from an inner impulse rather than from tho dictates of sifted reason. Hia reliance is man ifestly at all momenta and under all conditions in this hidden force and its friendly and ro- liablo guidance. He is a man who evidently observes, thinks and talks In the concrete. Details ore nothing with him bnt as stops to tho object sought for. Onco when a telepnono call waa being answered in an adjoining room from which the worda of tbo speaker could bo lKArd distinctly, bo was for tho momont all afctorfccd in tbo telephone and aiked to havo a question repeated, whioh was being put at tho moment. Tho sadness of counten&nco no tices bio at all times is intensified on a noarer view, excopt when tbo features light up whon tho whole man suddenly becomes transformed from a dreamy, fagged boing to a buadlo of octlvoness acutely attentive. Mr. Jones readily responded to n suggestion that a few word* for tho gonoral public would be of interest, and replied courteously to tho questions pot to him. Baid ho: “1 have gone through this in miniaturo be fore, but tho facilities here tor rovival work excel 1 thoso of any place I havo ever proachod In.” “How BO?” “Well, as to room and tho centralising of tbe forces. I havo also had thousands ot friends in other places who have focalized their influenco on my effort here by prayor. Letters from everywhere havo como'to mo. At least 100,000 pcoplo havo been in prayor for ua while this has been going on.” “v\Js ia explanatory to tho orthodox, but explain it from a more practical or worldly point of view?” “Why, tho whole work la inexnlicablo to him who confines himsoli only io natural phenomenon and material things. But to him who takes tho wings of faith and soars Into the supernatural It Is perfectly eioar. Thero is no uso trying to oxplain the inexplicable, you know,” ho said laughingly. “What will the results here bo?” “They will reach, aa I estimate it In my rn mind, about 2,000 conversions, though ft may bo more, 1 do not know. It Is tho largest ceccourso of pcoplo I havo over spoken to, not excepting tho tabernaclo at Brooklyn, and it could havo boon larger if moro apaco had teen provided.” “Ilad you anticipated anything like this?” “Fully expected it. It hasn’t boon beyond y oiith and expectations an inch, and tho ;nUi*riug will lie consIdcraVdo hero for weeks. Tiii» I say because it has invariably been do at other points whero I hive boon. And as to tho ponnanoncy of tho work, I be liovoit is of God, nnd will last forover, “HOW ABOUT TUK LEACTIOX THAT I'KOl’f.K PRI } MCI?” “Well,” (pausing for «onto mol and healthy for a man who cats heartily to-day to bo hungry again to-morrow. Tho fact that reaction in tho way ot coldness and lethargy may como is only a proof that wo need another work that will warm us into renewed life and activity. Tho emotional featuro may dio out, but tho great principles on which wo build aro as permanent as God la Immortal. Some always go back, but I havo never know a reaction, becauso thoso moot ing are not run on omotions. I havo proachod right living, tooling or no fooling, and whoa feeling is gone righteousness, or right living, will abide.” as to ttAsnrrur. “Nashville Is tho most solid southern city I buvo bccomo acquainted with. I aeo tho twi ddle# of this in tho multitude of first-class business mon and cltizono about her. I havo been struck*, too, with tho interest tho mon bare manifcttedln these meetings. Now much of tho langusgo used by ino in talking from the j.ulj.it, if nmimirod l.y tho ruins of rd l logic and rhetoric, seems harsh and unkind, but me mured by the love I bear those people I havo felt always that my words would loro much of this harshness which logic would give them. I havo adopted tho languago of tho pcoplo-~tho lan guage of tho street, tho office and tho shop. When a man means business ho takes all tho nigh cuts to thu object in vfow, oven in hi* language, and so do I. I am always In a burry.’’ “Do you believe that you are going to loavo behind you much prejudice against ycur methods?” * “I cannot object to criticisms of my meth ods so long as thoso methods aro successful. Personally, l cravo tho good wiU of all mon. Bat l b&vo r.cvor asked tor indorsomont; I havo asked only for co-opera tion. I might cover your question by saying that l thank God for til other methods than mine by which men are won to a better life, and for every church and pastor that Is doing Us work well in Its own war. Whilo a Methodist, I aco much that’s noble and good in all churches. I can aay to you that tho reason to my mind why tho masses tako hold of a work liko that ia becauso it seems to be a V.< rk <.l tho nisfEc ;.” Bat you have attracted men of tho higher walks of life In this city.” “It has always been so. The question of rrachiog the masses has always been a ques tion of room. Wherever I have preached I have bad first to penetrate an intellectual strata, in order to get at the maasee. Human ity, Intellectually, nos its mountain peaks and low valts, but on questions ot conscience hu manity ii a limitless valler# and ia on a level (run ahore to shore.” “Bpeak of yourself. The people want to know lomcthing more definite about you per sonally.” “Well, for inttanee, I never was a barkeeper ncr a gambler as somebody has said. J have been a somewhat wandering star without a purpose. I was for eight years a pastor In varfeus part* of north Georgia, doing a good deal of work, most of the tune outside or my own charge, and u my mental resources sc- curomuJ&tcd, IT TAKRS AX IMMEXtl RCSZBVK FOBCI FOR WORK LIKE THIS, mr Bold broadened, tor men know as well a nether there is more to folfow ae a horse knows when his driver's afraid of him, and know in the same way—hr the inherent rower of fnstfhet. I eventually took the financial sgeney of an orphanage in Georgia, which gave me aa broad a field a* demands for my lerviecs could ask. That was four years ego. Last January, a year ago, at Mem phis was tbe moat extensive work up to ibat time, and it was then that the news papers outside of my own state began to take notice of me.” “Did you realize at that period the control yea have over people, and the reliability and extmtof ycur iLi!ucncc,aademon»irntedhere in Nashville?” “Well, air,” replied the evangelist, alter a ptuie, prompted by a modesty of feeling at tbe abruptness ot the question, and using one of hit apt illustration* from the mechanics, I “tho distances a engino will run is alwavs de termined not by the pressuro of steam iu hor boiler, but tho amount of coal and wator aho has in her tender.” “If I had been called upon to givo proof of tho accusations I havo mado here. I would havo replied that gonoral, not special, knowl edge ia at tho bottom of my accusations ns to city life, and I would havo asked why Nash ville claimed to bo unliko other cities, for I havo found that cities aro aa liko and unliko as two men aro aliko and yot unlike. I know nothing, absolutely nothing, about Nashvillo when icamo hero—never was horo ton hours beforo in my life.” “Why did yon not accept tho proffer of a homo hero?” “Well, tho moro I thought over the gener ous proposition of tho pcoplo of Nashvillo the lest I was inclined to como. If I had boon more inclined as I thought it over l would have yielded without any longer delay, and I am as much at a lota to know why my thoughts went off this way as you are. But tbnt'sjust the truth about it. And speaking about giving rao a homo reminds me that I BATS HOARD MUCH OF XT SUFFOSID FIVAKOIAL HARVESTS frem the work fn which 1 am engaged. The fact is. I have never mado merohandiao of tho S os pel. 1 have never mado a contractor a emand. 1 have always received enough for my family to livo comfortably on, but 1 havo accumulated no money.” “What aro your plana?” “Well, my plans are definitely made. They f o till March ntxt and carry mo into Texas. take 'ora in tho ordor I shall go—Missis sippi, Alabama, parts of* Tonnossoo, South Carolina, St. Louis, Baltimore, Now Orloaua and Galveston. 1 want to go to California in December, bnt I don’t know about that yot. They have mado strong petitions for mo.” “Do you expect that your health is going to hold out?” “I am frequently tired, air, but novor sick. I bnvo noticed that within tho last twolvo months my voico has given way, and has now a tendency to grow husky at timos; but with rest it cleaxa up in furty-oight hours. Thoro can be no organic trouble with it, or it wouldn’t rally ro soon. I havo been worn down lower tnan 1 am now. I am much atrongor physi cally now than at any timo of my life. My sleep ia perfect. 1 think I havo health and stiCDgth enough to do my work, and rejoice iu it all the day long for years to como.” Closing, the evangelist remarked that, wore he to undeitako a second campaign in this city, ho would adopt a different method from Unit which ho has followed on thi • occnMiou. Ho knows tho pcoplo now and would ap proach them in another vein. Tho ovangolist soya ho docs not ccmprehcnd tho powor ho has over men. His wifo, who lovos to hoar him preach, oiten sales him if ho can explain why tho multitudes gather fo hear him, for aho cannot; and ho answers her that ho, too, Is at a loss to givo a roason for it. Ho trusts that any hard word ho has lot drop will bo forgotten, and that only his lovo for hia follow men will bo treasured up against him. half-a-dollar island. The fctorjr of IIow Uncle Bandy Hashes Made an Island. From tho Elbcrton, Ga., Leader. Many years ago by an unsuccessful attempt to divert tho water in a large bond of Coody's creek into a straight channel, an isolated pioco of land wbb found which goes by tho nnuio of tho Half a-Dollar island. Its naino origina ted from this circumstance: Old “Uncle Bandy” llughee nnco had it planted in cotton and having beon to look ot it one <la9 fold hi* wife it wav so good that it was worth n hall dollar just to seelt. Ua this pioco of Innd thero in a raised spot nbout hail au aero iu area which is suppoedfi to ke»an Indian meund. Borne years ago a boor had this spot I 'fivtfd ir\ ran. It proved well adapted; the corn thrived and bid foir to jura but a band* come harvest. As soon a* toe corn thrlvod, however; tho boor took to boatclag, and the moro it thrived tho moro ho bonatod, till at length hiB neighbor* bccamo heartily woeriod and ditgusted with his song end sot to devising i>< In niCB by which thoy might silonco him. Tho result wob a report soon sprang up that mi old Indian chief had boon scon to conic up < ut oltho mound einl utter angry iin procation* on tho bead oftheonowho whs donee ruling that sacred ground. To this rumor Wat addod wild conjectures such as that spells would be practi ced mi the boor; ho would ho caught and beaten by witches, his corn or hlmsolrbo spir ited lt.ay, or somo such sad fate would bofall him. Theeo rumors and conjocluros boing every day exaggerated, filled his infad with dreed ona apprehension eo great that he grow iifruid to go near tho mound. Having ar ranged everything in readiness for their m !h me, however, our friends, somo of his neighbors, ono evening by taunts of cowardice, mceccdcd iu getting tho hour tn go aud look after hia corn. Aa ho stopped on tho island ho h> > ii.cd an if ».r» enchanted ground. Ho looked about him wildly and proccoded slowly toward Urn mound, troubling in every limb a* if in *"f jroing to meet some supernatural boing. did it affect him, then, whon in tho midst of hia corn suddenly from out of tho ground arose a polntod old Indian chief beforo him and confronted him with these words: “How daro you palo faco thus lo desecrate this mered ground with your accursed corn.” Tho boor vouchsafed no reply, nor waited to hoar more, but turning on his heel fled as fast as his feet would carry him. After this it was ail our friend* could do to picvuil with him s^iiin to visit tho mound: it —By with tbo nromiso to go along with ad stand by nfm to tho last la any mis fortune. When thsy reached thero thoy found the corn all vanished; no sign remained bnt a pile of shnekf and stalk* over the hole oat ot which tho old chief had arisen. Thus had his corn been actually spirited away, as had boon conjectured. Tho boor waa now compiotely crestfallen; but, a few days after, when those same friends, sympathizing in his misfortune, inh.fo him up a Hufnciout purBxn to replace thu corn spirited away, and assured him that tbo ire of the spirits was now appeased, ho became again lighthearted, but waa cautioned nev er to reiumo the practice of boasting. BDMUNES’S VISIT TO HNOLA.ND. THE REBEL LEADER. Interview With n Alan Who Knows Kiel— the Fresent Situation, Winxhtc, Man., Mny 2'*.—liov. Mr. Pit Mado, of this city, was on board the steamer North Goto, whon Biel was boing convoyed to Saskatoon. Ho had eomo conversation with tho rebel leader, and tho following is extract ed from a report of tho trip wnich ho has given in private letters. Fitblacfo dcecribes Iliol as a cunning, intel ligent man. Jllel said ho did not know what tho authortics would do with him. Ho was forced "to fight, ho said, by tho raountod police and too Jludson bay officers. Thoy tyrannized over tho half-breeds and abused their power. “Thoy would tako everything from us excops tho noso.” ho sold. Tho fol- ti lowing relates to tho fight at Batoucho: “Is not this a bad job for you?” “Yes, very bad, but Good How the Vermont Senator Gninn to be In vited Over hy tbe House of Lords, WAfiniROTov, May 29.—Thera is b great Joal of interest taken by public men in 8enator Edmuud’a invitation to go to England to tea- tify before tho houeo of lords. It has been in correctly stated that ho would appear beforo parliament. He la not In tho city. Henator Mor rill, from Vermont, lays that tbe house of lords is sitting row •« a court for the examination of rarloua questions. Its sittings correspond to thoee of our supreme court. He save that It is entirely without precedent to invite any of our public men or fawyers to appear beforo it as witnesses to explain away any of tho topies considered by them, llo has no idea of the subject to be explained by Mr. Edmund. The Junior Vermont sen ator fs very well known In England m.<i bar quite a large acquaintance In the b'.uie of lords. When the high joint commis sion was hire Mr. Edmund* became very well •cqcafated with the English members, and he baa visited England several limes and has been very generally received In London sccitty. ITe met Lord Coleridge when be was here. His wide ac quaintance with English law and hia petition as chairman of the judiciary committee fn the renate would naturally make bits tbe lawyer to be selected if the English ferda should desfra to eo&fult any American authority upon tho subject of our laws. HU wife std daughter will a'company him. It is raid by some that there i* • certain bit of diplomacy behind all this, and that Mr. PhelpaU retpomib’e for Mr. Edmunds’* invi tation. Thu theory, however, la accepted by very few. u* uwm Providence has prevented U from being worao. Had tho Indians wo expected joined us, wo would havo boon much stronger and better able to rcsiit.” “How many men had you in tho fight?” “About fivo hundred. I expected an attack on tho north sideot the river, and left 150 mon to resist it on that side. This weakoned ui on tho other aide.” “Whero were you daring tha fight?” “At fint, when the mist was on tho river, I was on tho north tide, but when tho attack was made I went every whero, among the mon and all through the pits.” How many of your men wero killed?” “Eight, and two wounded fatally, l tear. Ono was wounded in tho breast and the othor in the abdomen.” “Wore the priests friendly to you?” “They woro not, nnd thoy insisted on us bo ing submissive to thorn. They wero against our trying to redress our own grievances. Ever rirco the d<-< trine of tho infallibility of tho popo was propounded, thoy havo been very tyrannical. Thoy did not wish tho pcoplo to do anything, but tho priests to do all. If thoy had beon m tavor of peaco I would havo beon with thorn. Thoy wero in favor of fighting for tho priosts, but not for tho peoplo. Thoy used doublo edged swords. They turned tho pcoploagainst them bccauBO thoy assumed tho civil functions. They turned thu l’rntchtiintfi ngaingt thorn because thoy opposed thorn. Tho priests sook power- for themselves, not tno good of the pooplo. Thoy aro against tho Protes tants, both politically and religiously. Thoy • ro against me now, not bccauao I robollod, but becauso 1 did not auccood iu holplng tlwra.” Kiel further said that tho pooplo compell ed him to fight, and would not let him go back to Montana. Ho was on hfs way to givo himself up to Middleton whon capturod by th*' scouts. Another extract from tho conversation reads? “Will tho Indiana fight?”. “I don’t know. Otter’s attack on ths Indl- »t:h presented them from joining us. Had thoy come as thoy were expected the fight would have beon worse. I had about twonly- five ol them with mo.” Did you land messengers lo them oyor the country offer the Fish creek bnttfe?” “Yes, 1 sent to Q’Appello and Battleford.but not to Colonel Garry.” As to religion, llov. Fitbludo says ho had several long conversations to-day with Kiel on tho subject of his roligious views. Ho scorns to bo quite willing to talk, and declares that he is now done witn tho church ot Homo, lio Is evidontly trying to create sympathy for hiiuself among tho Protestant*. 11 im great antipathy to tho priests consist* in his hatred lor their interference in many mat ters. They hdve too much to do with civil af- tslra- The council at Ba touch* passed a roll- ficus creed of distinct aoetrraaa, whioh'' Wished to teach tho. psopte. Pit- ' gave a sketch of the creed thus promulgated, irotn whteh.it. i* evlU'it th-J^ Kiel hoped to gain the support of ail danomi nations nn religious grounds. In tbe second letter, Pilblado gives a conversation iu which Kiel set forth the claims of tho half broods ns follows: “Why should you rebel lo got this grant ed?” “Wo did not robol. Thin matter is not robollion. Wo have novor yet been treated with about our right*. Tho hall broods of Manitoba havo enterod into a treaty. Thnt treaty stipulates that tho arrangsmetiU to bo made with tho hulfbrccds of tno torritorici would bo similar to those mado with Manitoba. No troaty has over been mado with us. We novor transferred our rights, and boforo thoy n ro taken from uh wo wish to havo tho treaty mado, and think wo havo a right to expect that tho conditions of that treaty will bo similar to tho one niado with tho half-breeds in Manitoba. No, my frlond, this is sot rebellion. Wo simply defend our selves. Wo don’t l>«long to tho Hudson bay company. They sold thoir interest iu tho country. “Tho Indians who took tho treaty sold what interest they had in tho country and tbo halt bri edi ol tho territories nro tho owners of tho soil thoy occupy. They havo no interest in tho country with which thoy have novor parted. Thoy deaire to have an equitable ar rangement for ibtir intercut. Thoy defend themedves.” llo concluded his statement by saying: “I have sot rebelled against tho KagUsh government, and besides I am a citizen of tho United Stales. I have my papers all right, and n riti/r.u of tho United Ktales can m-.ireely bo a traitor to tho dominion government.” JMPBACH MHNT IN MEXICO. 'll '1 he € nicer* of th« Lata (lonzales Admin istration tn Trouble, City of Mrsico, May 29.—The hostility which has long threatened a rupture between President Dlszacd ExPrcrtdent Gonzalez has finally cal- mlnated In an order adopted In congress lor tho impeachment of tho two secretaries of the treas ury under the Gonzelez administration, and also of tho minor treasury official*. There wai great cx(!umtnt In congrcM during debate, and the articles In tho anti Gonzalez newtnapen havo Keen very bitter. KzHecrctary iuontes J Muniz, who held tho trea>>aty portfolio iluriDR tho early part ot thu Gonzalez admtuUtra. tion, m an Interview u>-*i«y with a press repre- killative, raid he waa w tiling lohnvetilM account* examined, and that although according to the constitution ho was exempt ircm impcuchment, Old wsIvohJ* rJahta In order to have h(s itloti vindicated. Public opinion regards fcchor Foentca Y. Muniz a» tin honuat man, and LI* frnnkm aa In tide trial* confirm* thu public judgment. He la now manager of tha t,ht.or.nl hank of Monte du l'ienal. Political and burincM circle* aro earnestly dis- ni>ftlng th* situation. It is generally thought that cx President Gou/ali-/. will endeavor to vindicate himrclf. IIIH friends arc reported a* saying that he will precipitate a revolution beforo submitting, •* *—*rs a* II tho government had boon preparing - conflict, and as It the Gonzalez party will If the matter bo prcaaed to an end. Tho houto of deputlea has pasted a bill authorizing tf i preridsot to extend the extstteg railway era- iocs 1 ho bill will probably pass the senate. i j bciitcof deputies has voted to refer to a A ju.y committee of thnt body the ii'ieatlon a* LttLi-r there baa btcu malfeasance In office ou the part of any of the member* o! the Gougalaz f-.'n.lr.fot atlon. This committee mint comlder where there fs sufficient prima Milo ground lor nrtu»iruany one. lithe committee reports in tho affiiinutlve the bouse will be formed into a Brand jury of &<* luatlou, aud If, In this capacity, ti.Ht the ateuxed f* guilty, tbe aexute. tensed Into a jury of sentence, will determine tho appropriate penalty. A Visit to the Old OhlelUklA. From tho LaGrange, G*., lteporter. Mr. L. M. I’ark and wile yisitel the Hon. Jcllerion Davis, at his beautiful home oo tho ulf, Beauvoir,en route to the exposition. Mr. 'ark said h# wanted hi* children to have the proud satisfaction in future year* of bavin; shaken the hand of th* president of the south era confederacy, aud therefore too* the -iUl* boy i irithfetau N Dv