The Democrat. (Columbus, Ga.) 1830-18??, November 06, 1830, Image 2

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TIIE DEMOCRAT COLUMBUS, S.ITVRD.IY, 1 f>, l^'O We observed in <-ur last Mint Governor Gil jner’s reenF.'ge in character wa« such as to merit our rfcciJ# approbation. There arc eeveral points, lvovcver, hhie Iwe wish to except t'roni this declaration of approval And amci g tho most important we would notice the great ’jains which the governor takes to exhibit his hos tility to the general government Although he feels himself constrained to admit ‘‘tbs* ,l “* ~r . ...re ~101 WHICH fit. exertions otthe pres ident have been yielded to extinguish the indian title; end tiie unreserved sanner in which our rights have been acknowledged, reqniro of the state the fullest confidenca,” Ac. After this confessi i), one would suppose that he at least could have no complaint to enter against tho operations of tho general government. Yet nevertheless lie reams to put himself out of his way to urgecomp'aints and to oxeite a prejudice against h«r. Now if tho executive officers of the union, g vc a right exposition to the constitution and satisfy even the governor in their cxorti< ns to do justice to Georgia, it would seem as if it was tho very existence of the government against which his hostility is directed, rather than a sys. tcin of policy which might change with a change of men; for it is plainly enough indicated that the govet nor wishes to be ranked among the friends of the present administrat n His hostility therefore must bo against the government itself But the govern >r seems perul arly unfortunate in the subjects which he selects for censure. Slaves the governor asserts are in general incapable of any but agricultural labor; and therefore he thinks the revenue system of the United State s unjust toward-, the south because it gives pe - unnent bounties to manufacturing and mechani cal at the expo se of agricultural labor Admit ting for a moment that the revenue laws do oper ato in favor of the mechanic and manufacturer still the south docs rot thereby suffer, because ex p notice fully proves, not withstanding the assoi- Mo'i of the governor, that slaves may be profitably oinnlo. ed b th in mechan ca and manufacture". Aml i:' we mistake not the governor himse'f no longer s<jo than last nesman signed an act prohib iting their employment as compositors in printing office* A fact who h shoes that even in the opin ion es his excellency, there exited no physical dllhcnl.y in tile way oftlior performing one of the most complicated operations in the whole round of mechanics There seems also to be some little contradic tion in his arguments on tl.e lottery system Ir one place ho sa\ s, ‘ the great object to be i fleeted by the state, in tho appropriation of its lands i* the increase of its population, and the excitement of it* people to industry and the accumulation of "C' l lth." An again ‘lt has always says ho been f. und trior difficult to r< strain improper ex pcndituiea arising from u full treasury, than to obtain through the powers which belong to ih.» ( government, the im ans which may ho reaby re quired for public puiposea ” Hero one would na. turnlly suppose that tho govornor considered an overflowing public treasury us a great evil; \\h le the accumulation of wealth in the h inds of indi viduals. was a public benefit. But before be clos es the paragrapli ho inculcates a different doe trine “Prodigality, says he, is the usual result of tiches suddenly and easly obtained. Mines are like the accumulation ofthe people's money in the public treasury. Tho government should manage them for general, and not for individual* advantage It they should prove exceedingly profitable, the slate would thereby be enabled to relieve the people from taxation, improve all 'lie roads, rendor its rivers navigable, and extend the advantages of education to every ch.ss of socioty ’ Uore the governor intimates that a full public treasury would be a very fine thing, while riihes in private hands would hut promote prodigality! There are several other subjects about which we differ from his excellency; and which perhaps wlieij we have nothing olse to do, we may think it worth while to notice. M. n. J £l*de Esq has resigned his interest in the l-.stablishnient of the Georgia Messenger in •favor of S. Rose senior editor, who thus becomes so], editor and proprietor of that respectable Jour nal. We confess that the receipt of the following Tetter, gave us deep concorn; we can assure our tiier.d, however, and all others upon whom simi lar circum tanees have mnde a like impression, that we have set about reforming the evils of which ho speaks; and that for the future ho will n t find a town in tho state where both man and horse will meet with more civil treatment, and whore they may enjoy more q*.iet repose; thoic is no nee. ssity at all for canying liis cot ton to Vlacon; our merchants will give the best prices and have the money to pay ter it. Mr Bartlett, Vrar Sir —No d.-übt you have been expecting Cio in Columbus bofore th a; and indo.'d 1 have entertained a strong desire to go down, not only for the purpose of subscribing to The Democrat end paying for the same (I always pay {V ray pa per in advance) as ft >r laying in my supply of su gar and coffee and salt, Ac and buying a few things for the old woman and the galls But he troth is, 1 am jubus of some of thoso wild young follows you have about your town, and have pret ty much made up my mind to go to Macon with my truck. 1 was awfully flustrated the last time I was in Columbus and as I am rather nervous 1 cover think of that place without feeling my flesh crawl, and my heart jump again i never turn Dumple's head (Dumple is the name of my horse) that way, but what he hicks up and soorts most tolotiously But he has a reason for it, «li ch von shall hear Dumple is a most capital horse, and you inav bo sure 1 was not a little proud of hnn, more particularly of bis long beau, tifii' flowing tail, and I te»k hun down to Colum bia for the purpose of allowing hint off. After seeing him well sorted down in the stable, I went invself into the tavern, and you may ho suro I was well pleased for every body was very civil und polite, oud think* I to myself, Columbus isa ye delightful place After supper, thinks Ito m>! If. I will take a v.alk and sec the town It TVJ a delightful moonlit oyening, tho murmuring „f the falls eouT.dcd like soft mimic uolhe car, am. a cool breeze from the south west, just tempered the breath of eat ly autumn; and, thinks l to my. self, it is a beautiful place to live in. In several ofthe shops I saw people some'.'hat riproiious, and a little bit of a fight was got up Ben g rath er nervous, as 1 said before, 1 hastened on; pies, ently I heard a terrible rorification. and on look ing round, saw a man come running past me with his belly ripped open, and endeavoring to hold his bowels in with both hands, and several others following closely alter him with Unites i nnd sticks and bellowing like all po sensed- Not ! knowing what might hsM““> 1 c,n r, und n | c rncr, and, thinks I to myself, I will get nut of I the wav, I will go to bcJ So I made fir mv lodg ings. But happening to pass ky a large house, and hearing something of a jollfication above. I was about stopping a moment, >ut I had hardly time to look up, when smash, stmsh, went one of the third story windows, and a moment afterwards down came somebody, plump irto the sand al most upon me Not exactly knowing his object in thus coming down upon me in io unceremoni ous a manner, I took to my heels you may de pend on it. I gained nty lodgings, crept into bed and covered up my head in the blanket Thinks Ito myself, I will go to sleep. But it wouldn't do. I had hardly got warm in iny nest, before I heard a loud and tumultuous noise, accompanied with a terrible explosion of fire arms The Indians i are upon us, we shall all be 6calped, thinks I to ] mysolf. I dashed down stairs, and mode fbi the . stables; if I can but once get upon the back o 1 Dumple, thinks I to myself, I will give any of their rifle balis leave to overtake me. But on ! getting nto tho streets, instead of Indians, 1 per ! ceived a man enveloped in a wreath of smoke and • flaine, with more than a thousand crack'-i s fasten ed to his back, and different pa-t* of Ins deaths, j and whose continuous exp sions I had mistaken ! for the roar of battallions of musketry They i had been thrust into his bosom, his pockets, and I the hinder parts of his inexpressibles, while en j joying a comfort ble snooze in a favorite lounging ' place, and set on fire. On his awaking amidst ; the blazing and cracking of the co ohu-tibles, and the roar of the spectators, he had started off j hrough the streets, screaming murdei. fire and ! brimstone, liko one pursued by the furies You : may depend on i, my nerves weie terribly co- j tlustrated by this spectacle; a.id i ordered the : waitei to bring out Dumple directly: but instead j of complying with my request, he stood grinning j in my face, as rn ch as to say, get him yourself. I Iv. as about t apply my whip to his shoulders when I wai told that instead ofthe waiter, the in'ividiial whom 1 addressed was one of my fellow lodgers, who had just been blacked in a spree! 1 waited no longer, but bolted for Dumple myself, sure enough; I jumped into the saddlo.and never looked behind me till daylight. \\ lion I became more composed, you may guess how much I was disconcerted on finding that I had left a certain article ofrny apparel, necessary to decency, and that Dumple s tail had been clean shaved, over and ub- vo anoti.or operation which had been per formed on him, which it is needle s to mention- Since that night 1 have never been to Coluinbu g . neither has Dumple. 1 remain however, truly your., JERRY FEARFUL* FOR THE DEMOCRAT. Prom the Port t’vtio of u RamlUr. Few I believe are aware of the e tent of that direct and controling influence which the female mind holds over the character and fortunes ot mankind. Man, as ke assumes for himself the prouud title oi Lotii id tins lower creation, so i,e is apt to imagin that he is the master spiiit which dbectßand controls every thing—that he holds his lolly course uninfluenced by nferior beings uncounselled and uncontioled But it is not so* The most cursory glance at the history of individ. uals wi 1 show us the impres of female influence in every situation of life The character oi the man is to a great degree made up of the examples and lessons of the mother. The good or ill for tune of the husband is in a great mcasuro in the hands of the wife Few men I imagin have ever risen to greatness, whose minds were not early im bued with the principles of virtue and incited witli a thirst after distinction by the lessons of he mother ; and it seems to me as impossible that a ruan can successfully struggle with the cares c.f life, who is unfortunate in the selection of a part ner, as that the swimmer can successfully s cm the ruged tnrront wiio carries a viper in his bosom und wh.ch is constantly knawing at his vitals. To illus rate this portion of my argument, 1 will cite a part of the piivate history of an old acquain tance whom 1 lately f 11 in with in one of my ramb.es It had been my hap in travelling thro’ one of the older counties of the state some six or seven years ago, to stop for the night at a respec table farmers, whero the extreme regularity and nicety, of all the arrang ments of the plantation arrested my attention Every thing appeared in the most exact order. The and alt appeared ten ded with the greatest care, the fences in the high est state of preservation, the horses sleek and fat, the slock well fed and thriving, the servants well clad, and cheerful, and mine host himself, roui and plump and jo ly. I was so well pleased with eve ry thing around me that I delayed mv journey several days, as much to enjoy the scene of com fort and quiet as to rest my horse Fortune again led me past the samo door bu* a few ays ago. But oh, haw every thing had changod, Instead of that snog and thriving ap pearnnee with which 1 had formerly been so do lighted, now every thing appeared neglected and ruinous. The house itself seemed teady to tum ble down ; fences were out oficpair ; stables and out-buildings were rotting away ; and the scanty stock which struggled over the field lookod hun gry and meagre I was pausing on the thresh old, debating with mvsclf whether my memory I had not played me false, when the person of m. old host plesentod itself bes .re mo. |l Ja face was the same, full round and plump— yet that look of cheerful and careless hilarity was wanting.— Ills brow was wrinkled wilh care, and his voice was sharp and querulous. ll.h welcome was equally cordial, and a feeling of curioeity induced inc again to accept of his hospitality 1 could not but wonder at the too visible change Mv h*t CO I found was fully comtemu* (if th, rs V) _„ j v.h. ii i.ad Come over him ana u.i ab tut:’.; b..t j his penetration was not deep enough to panel: ate 'thscaue “ His luck, he said, had turned” Bu t i how, or wliy, he knew not. On be ng questioned,. 1 gath red from him the following particulars,! w hich 1 will r -peat in nearly his own words: — “1 commenced the world, said he, with just noht ing at all I had but one shirt and a piece to my ! back when I got matried ; so yon see, 1 had to-j work or s arve. 1 had been thrown from iny horse, and broke my leg, and dislocaleJ iny hip— j and I lav six moths on iny back without b’cing a- , ble to stir I had been promised to my wife be- j fore, and it sort <>' seemed as if we couldn't wait J any longer ; so Polly just left her people and | camelioine to me. and we got married. Both our j paients were mightv poor, and they couldn't af. ; ford to give us any thing at all; but that didn’t J make any and fference Wo had neither a bed nor j blanket ; but it was getting warm weather, and we didn't mind. Wrented a cabin and a bit of . land and went to work—as we hadn't a crectur to plow, wo determined to make it up ourselves ; we dug up the ground and planted it. Polly took her hoe and went into the field along with me; and j ! it a sort o' sccncd as if I felt twice as strong and could do tviee as much work when she was bv, ilist to showthat [ could beat her. But it was i I a tough match she was a little bit of a body-, but 1 lord o' me, she had a heart as big an ox—she was j mighty spirited \Vc suffered deperateiy for rain i that year ; but we dug the ground the more; final- j ly made a very good crop. Polly too, took in some j cotton on the i-hares, which she spun in rainy ; weather, and odd times, so that before winter we i had enough to make a bed and cloths Corn cold j big. th t .ear; and I was enabled to cell enough j before sprirg to buy a cow and a ereetnr to p-ow j Polly by t lxs time had brought mo cur oldest boyi i and couldr’t help me in tho fold , but mav ho rhe j didn't keep the wheel and the lo m agoing We made ano her good crop; and I bought a piece of land and moved out on tho road I had three j years to pty fir the land and I worked inigh-' ty hard o make up tho amount; and in or-! der to sa e all our money determined to sell every thing we could spare, and buy nothing at all—and if we could not make an arliclo within ourselves,! why we just dne without it In this way we fudged along together, a id finally made oat to pay j tor our land and get out of debt. As we lived upon the road we could always sell our truck fir a ! good price ; and we sometimes took in travellers, i and turned a penny that way And as we stuck to oiu resolution ot seiimg all and buying nothing! every year we gained a little. By and by. we j bought a negro, and then another, ai dso on. My | boys go: log enough to work and 1 turned them i ail in the field i bought more land. Our slock j mqieased and I began to find niys .If pretty com fortable. Polly kept oveiy thing as streight as a Bliiogle within doors, and I and tho boys knocked away without. In this way we accumulated, and there were few of my neighbors who kept a snug er corn crib, or a bettor lined smoke house, as you may chance to remember. But about five years ago my luck began to torn. Polly got sick and 1 1 had the doctors to pay ; finally she died. Some how the seasons were always unfavorable. We didn’t make as good crops as formerly ; the stock didn’t do as well ; they got poor and died off Some flow oi offer. 1 got in debt, and the sheitffs "*•■<l constables begun to bother tne Every tlnng seemed to go wrong Our meat always sp lied in curing The lu gs would bro k into tho cornfield-., and the woods g ,t afire and our fences burnt down anu in short, it seems as if we must ail come to poverty. My present wife is a mighty good sort of a woman, 1 set a heap of store by her ; but body o’rne, she isn’t like lather one foi keeping every thing streight.’’ Phut ended the old man’s story; and it was ea sy lo perceive that every thing had indeed altei ed with him His luck had indeed changed. But how ? His misfortunes might all be summed up in ! a very few words He had lost his w i;e—That, j kind and tru friend who had so long watched over his interest; whose avgus eyes had been around , and about his household ; whose ever sleeplrss j vigdenee was over ill his affairs, and who had | even infused a pottion of her own ardent and . active spict who has more lethargic frame, had 1 departed from him. The dull and heavy temper j of mu e host, when the animating principle -vhich i had so long inspired, it was withdrawn, became ! incco.npeteut lo the management of his busines with thcfaccust mied success His work was al ways behind hand; his seeds wore sown at tho wrong time, and his fields were badly tilled. H:s stock were neglected, and the f ot-teps ' f ruin wen every where visible. Yet he was not aware that Ire had abated in the le ist of his usual indus try ; he worked he said, as hard as ever. But as he had never teit the influence of his consort over his conduct or affairs, so he was now slow in per ceiving the wa.it of it. Gen. D. It \\ illiams positively refuses to net as Governor of S. C and C l. J CheMiui, ol C .inden, whose popularity m Die upper ili-ti icts is considerable, is spoken of for that office, Carolina, to put the fi nal seal of reprobation on Nullification, owes it to her consistency to place m y ot hoi respectable citizens, other than James Hamilton, JunV. in her Executive Cuair. VV| hope the di-interested conduct of Judge Huger aud J~m .> L Pmtigru, who liteiv thieiv <£f then coats and rolled up their sleevps, to fight tiio Nullifiers, will meet with clistiugiiinhed homes m their native Sine. Sich citizens are the salvation of every country, should be their pride. ~ , ( Ale g- Oar We onutc'l to notice (says the United S'.-iten Telegraph of the 21st j,, S |.) ,h, ; arri val in this City of Gov. Brown, and Doctor Hamm, Represent, Hives of this Govern mem, near Dios.- of Brazil and C’litli—Doc lot Ilainm, having received Ills instructions, is now in New York, whence hr will sail in a few days fir Chili.— G v. Brown is now here, and on his way to Brazil Spain* The Editois of iho N. Y. Daily Anvoi user have ben: favored from n higlf l> r» specia le source with an extract of a Idler, dated Liverpool, Sept 3f. “In consequence of an understanding 1 within Spain and without, it is expected' that u C.nsi it ut ion a I movement will tike i luco by the last mouth, and that nil the p i. ; rustles and oppressors *vill ho p Ut .Jowit,*’ Cca.'.,•• J Legislature. —Fiom the to c ctiitigs of until bi duclies of the Genera! Assembly cur readers will perceive that riot'inig of importance lets been as yet done. The ci imiiittee nn the Slate t-f the Repub lic is deeply engaged upou the business confided lu theru it is with anxiety tin people arc wailing for tho resu t of it- de liberations. Tiie Cherokee question is one which is of vital interest to Georgia ; uni which should not be lightly approached and J examined. The conimil.ee which has tni question under its care, is composed of scum j of tiie best talents ol the legislature : it is j therefore expected that the polity it will recommend, will he founded oil prudence wisdom. Another subject of importance, and w hich has been iutiusted to a select com mittee, is tlie reorgoniz liton of the judicial circuits cf the State. The im qu <|i(y of their present orgamz ttiou, is so mauifes', that the legislative could nut avt id to take tho sub* ject uoucr consideration, and endeavour to apply a leiuedy to the evil. ,N.i doubt the committee will discharge its duty faithfully, and place all the citctnts on a more equal footing than at present. 'I he subject of altei ation in tire legislative branch ol li.u government, is regards the number ol tm tiiuers, is also under the it:ve-> ligation ot a committee Tne legislature have much to do : bu liny have plenty linto to despatch all tm business before them with credit to the members and benefit to the State some time before Christmas. [lt, cord.tr From a letter in the Taimyr-(N. Y.)AJ vc itise., we select some paiticul-rs ol a re cent evident sit Rochester. “We had a dreadful ne list night at Mr. Penny's Church. M Penny was to preach there, and toe house wt- crammed ti totally full.— M lute All. Penny was making the pravet oefore commencing the rxeictse a piece of timber over head gave vv iy and fell upon be plastering and knocked it elf; making a noise like a sudden hoisting rs ihurdri. lit an instant the whole cotig,< gation ms-, j nd here the scene beggais all d< script>o, i A general .'-creaming and rushing tow-are j he door followed, and hundreds were ti am- I d down, rtioso silting neai tho window ' below, stove tl»i in though and went nut; i three men jumpied, though excessive frigii from the galleries into the body of th-. church—aud one man vety much iujtnoi. another heU w, by jumping on him Then wt-to U‘ it ki le.r—but a great many iiuit.— One hall i.fihe females had t über lust th-. .i shoes, shawls, combs, bonnets necklaces or handkerchief:;—and such an ai.x ety a* tuosc iii.iiuf." ' j who were out was terri ble. 31 it it .is were crying ‘Oh! where ue my c lie ree,’ and chihhen inquiring in •> ns 1 t thou mothers, «fce.— One man politic, iff onied from the gallery w-indt w to the is. und J was sitting in the galleiv in i.i , • unli the ministers, and could see ah. Ah itioividual supped forward an., cried lo Dio top of his Inngs, no danger! o prevent those below from trampling ... e - n-'iher to death. But it nid no go.-d. I ima gined the roof would tall instantly—and On ! .1 li Im.l, « 1,.,« a sa.-r.fico would h.iVi been there! ! My neives tremble whet. 1 think ot it. One u>m;m had lo r aim brakeo, and many weie b ully bruised, le. being trampled ort. O.i the whole, we hav« great cause of thankfulness for tm pit servant i). Undoubtedly all th it saved us w s getting up so quick. A committee have examined the chuith to-dav— they It ve fonnd new cracks in the w ills, aim It.ve condemn, and the chttt-r It : It is to be torn down and rebtifli, on another spot.” rim total number of inhabitants in I Chari' ston S C. liv a recent census i.iken s compil'd ed at 30 289. i’* niciease dur " g l he [i s ten years 5 509. I rtF.vcu 'ujffereks. l’hc contiibutions 'biained in, ami r omuiices made from 1 hi, •litlphni, ii the* »uflorets by the recent co fl cis m I’m is, .mo uut to 20,140 francs, wuereoi 5,0.0 ft ants were fmiosoed by \ Otic in iiviiiuhi 1 1 one*# l iifs f however, is 111.1 p, n lent if .he sums subset ib< and ihroug me Consulate of France, by French gei. tleuien. I.iem. S.nds, Mus. K E. V. Robins n, Dr. W. Joiinaon, ami AI . \V 11. Pen.il - tor, iiave arrived ai N. York font B z ,\ having been sent home iit consequ, jjee ~! being coiueiued in the duel, in which D. 11. W. B 'ssui wa>ki!.p'j, Fullm, who übsc.i oml with § 10.000 ol the funds of the United St ms Branch uitnk at Boston and afterwards surrendered it, as been tried in the U. States Couit, and '.anieticeil to pay a find of fifty dollars, ami bo imprisoned m ttie Boston jail for two years al hard labor # I H f *M ' tnuAt.TAK. — Gibraltar papers to tile 1 Dll ol S» (Member have been received ai B .ston. They confirm the account ( .| the hoisting of the tri-colored fl ,g at A -and adds that the Ftencli troops hau evacuated Bona, and left the (.face in charge i f the Governor, on his paving a yearly tiibute, as was agreed upon with the Roy of Oran. Gen. Bourindnt was wait mg at Algiers f. r his successor, (General Cl 'use I) who, lie had been effii.ally ■ formed liom home, would shoitiy reliev* liim. Tlie Arabs from the interior contin ued in a hostile attitude at no preu dis t .nco horn the town. More treasuro was otinsiuiii.l y discovered, and fl lo tot„i at", unt of wh it had already b«. JU f oullll said to be very considerable, Tl.e law for ptiuuni .g the return t. , of those who had peen banished In H»»! law of the 16 h J muary 1516, ands,, th« restoration of their piopertv, was nas sed on the Ist Sept, * * A Po'i Often has been rstaWished i. J. nks Bu lge, Bryan Ceu uy, Charles \ nn.ly, Esq. Post Master, LEGISLATURE Ol- GEORGIA. HOUSE OF KEFU&SENTATIVES, Tuesday October 21. CHEROKEE LANDS. At°r the reading of the Journal, t ,e speaker remirKed that Mr. \V .-Ifird’s re - ■lution in relation to the survey of ihu C ieiouee 1 inds was befme the house Li the appointment of a committee. Mr WcfTuid rose and stid he would of fer a su stitute which was to this iftect that a committee be appointed to join tho like committee from tne Sena e to take im, consideration so much of tire Governor’s Message as relates to the survey of the Cherokee lands, with leave to report by biil or othei wise. Mr. II lytics remarked that lie thought the disposition of the house seemed to bu yesterday to make the reference to tho joint committee on the State of tire Re public. It had b-eu moved to lay the r< s olutioti on the table fur the purpose of refer ing the subj ret to that committee. 11.- 1; i J introduced a notice for a committee to pre pare and report a lull on the subject at »nce, but as many geot.etr.r-ti thought that ue proper committee, was the joint .stinti ng committee on the Slate of tiie Repub lic, he was content to iot it take ihal course. Mr. Wofford remarked that he did net knowhow the gentleman from Hancock knew the wish ol the house tu give the sub ject that reference'. I know; said be, that ■,uch a disposition was manifested bv setnn gentleman. 15 *t he hoped the house would pursue the course in such cases. \' hen a survey was to bo made u was a member.. It is wi ll known that there is usuully a large mass of business referred to that coni* m-ttee This nouse has seme feeling on mis subject, and his object was to have a ,committee tc investigate tho whole matter at an em ly day, and fetch it before the egislatu e in a shape proper to be acted on, and -hat every m m might vote on it as ha • ought best- lit had some feeling on trta subject, and therefore he urged it. Mi. Hudson rentalked that the question ►as no important one, and if tile lact v> s ’--item that we hail tiie right to survey, thu lurse pointed out by tho resolution was t’ u ■ toper one. But ho appealed to the good nse of eveiy gentium.in, whether there vas not an enqt iry now going on, whether ■%e had the r gtit or not. Refer tho sui> ject to large joint standing committee, and that committee will collect the facts as tc the ngtit of tiie survey ; and if that right be found to exts 1 , thru the course of the g'-n* Inman from II bersliam is correct. But it we think we have the riglit.it is due to the people of the U. States, that cur reasons should be laid before them. He hoped the subject would be referred to the committee, on the State of the Republic The ques tion involves no) the single point of survev, nut rather a system of measures. The whole sin uld bn combined and arranged, ’ogi tlrer - itli tin lacis rid reasons tin w liich they are loin (led, so that w hen n biil is re* ported, the mesons :or it should be repoi ted with and go before the people for their satislui ticii, M, Murry hoped tint from the expression of the bouse yesterday the diihculty would be easily g >tlen over IF, was able, lie thought, now to bring the question in such a shape as Wool) embrace his own views, mi the vie -.vs ( f other gentlemen. ll'- had ta ' ii up s--me resolutions which would not only cover that particular object, but the whole of the Govenrno’s 31essnge. This was in conformity with tho usage of tho house, and was due to ilie Message itselL IF. therefore offered his resolutions ns a substitute for the one on the tabio. The Speaker decided that it was not now in o der. Mr. Wofford remarked that lie was r.p» prised of ti.e n,flounce of the opposers ot his resolution. But ho thought their reasons | wore Die ve.y reasons why it should be a [dopled. His object was to have the sub ject iln i,uglily investigated. Where will me committee origiuate f Will not the speakei appoint them. And cannot he ap point those whose immediate duty it will be He was on the committee on Dm Slate of the Republic. And he mew the usual course with that commute© '.T-t refer subjects to sub-committee—- " her.' they are kept fur some time. Hij nj. ct was to bring the subject before the .mum at once. Mr. Ryan remarked that as to the right of ■in vey, he thought there was no doubt. Fo mm it appeared to be a question of ex pediency altogether. It had been well ob eyed by the gentleman from Putnam, *hat .iiformation was necessary for persons at a distance.—The whole subject should be mauaged with great caution; and after a <if*cisinn is had upon it, it should be pursued with energy. As to the proper committee, he thought it should take the usual course. Hie main object was to ascertain the sense of tho house. There wet© a number of matters so intimately connected with the -object, us to make it dangerous to carvd them out to different committees. Thfl subjects were so blended (bat they ould not well be separated. The com 'mttee on the State of tho R> pubic, be bought,should be charged with the whole subject. Mr. Dougherty remarked that lie thought the house should pursue precedent—lay bo resolution on the table for the'pris til, and when it is called up, the gentleman bum Lincoln can offer his substitute cover eg the whole Message. lie thought tho views if thu gentleman from Warren were ted, while those id tho gentleman from • I ibersliaui were without foundation. Ho .olds that if we refer it to the joint ntnnd ug committee on the Stnte of Die Ropub >>-, would lose lime. Nmv 1 would ask, id JVlr. D. what obligation von linvo on n. member ot this house or of an) com •tulieo, but Ins sen e of duty to llte house, ‘•id to »ho country. By what aurtti rii?