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Bates: I disagree.
R&B: Why? I imagine people would say, ‘Anytime
when you have two people who are predicted to be
successful and you want to choose someone of a spe
cific racial group because of that racial group, that's
Bates: Well, I guess I’d have to say, what about
all of the other criteria? To me, that's just one of nu
merous criteria. There’s talent. There’s geographical
area of the state.
I’d say that if two students are exactly the same,
but one’s female and one’s male, we have a need to
bring in that male because at the University right
now, well over 60 percent of the student body is fe
male. Well over 70 |>ercent of the African-American
freshman class was female. To answer your question
— race, gender, geographical area, athletic talent,
musical talent, artistic talent, thinking talent, debate
skills; all these are things you look at when you build
your freshman class. You know what’s ironic? We’ve
always looked at those things. Always. But when
somebody says there’s race out there, then it’s a to
tally skewed discussion.
R&B: Nancy McDufiT, the director of undergradu
ate admissions, said this is the first time factors oth
er than academic criteria are being used. Is that
right?
Bates: It’s a hard call. If you had a standard for
African-American students and another standard for
European-American students, is that race-based or
not? I’ll say this, we’ve always had special criteria for
special students.
R&B: What would happen to campus if the at
torney general is successful and race is not a factor
in the admissions process?
Bates: Two things are going to happen. One is
that the University will find alternative means of in
creasing the number of students of color If I didn’t
feel as though people are working toward that, this
wouldn't be a place I’d want to work.
So, I think there would be some other ways of
dealing with that, and that may mean, for example,
coming up with some scholarship aid for outstanding
African-American students The second thing that
will happen is that there will be a dramatic decrease
in the number of African-American students here. A
dramatic decrease.
R&B: Do you think students would leave because
of the change?
Bates: 1 don’t think people will leave because this
is still the top public school in the state. There will
still be students who will want to come to the
University because you can get a quality education
here, at a fairly reasonable cost. It’s close to home. All
the reasons why people come down. But that student
on the cusp won’t get in, and that’s where we’ll begin
to see the decrease.
And you’ll have people going around saying. The
reason I didn’t come to the University of Georgia is
because they’re racist there.’ You know, you’ll get
that negative word of mouth going. We have some
negative word of mouth going right now that we’re
trying hard to overcome.
R&B: What if race-based scholarships are elimi
nated at the University?
Bates: I think then we'll see a dramatic decrease
in the number of minority students hen*. I really
think that in a state that’s 30 percent African -
American and growing that the state has a need to
have trained African-American professionals, busi
ness-people, educators. If we don’t, we lose them
They go someplace else. ITie state loses You’ll then
have a less educated populace who are then getting
lesser paying jobs, paying fewer taxes or they're not
getting educated at all and they’re going out and
stealing, hitting people over the head and they end
up in an institution and we pay that way. I’d rather
pay for this institution than a penal institution.
But if you’re that white kid out there and you had
the 1200 (SAT score) and the 3.3 (grade-point aver
age), and you hear about somebody black who gets in
with a 1000 and a 3.0 and you don’t get in, you’re go
ing to be pissed. You don’t see yourself as part of the
conglomerate, you just see it as you — not a part of
the larger picture — so you’re going to be upset, and
it’s going to lie very difficult for me to convince you
that the University has a greater need to bring in
that black male than it is to bring you in.
But the University doesn’t have any problem
telling Tanner (Lumber Co.), ‘Get your ass off that
land over there because we want to build a high-rise.’
Tanner didn’t like it, but the University has a larger
need and that was to build a parking deck, so Tanner
had to go. But Tanner’s going to have other opportu
nities. lie’s going to get a nice piece of money, and he
has other options and that’s what I would tell the
white guy. You probably have more opportunities
than that black guy who got in here. I know it’s tough
to understand this.
I sometimes think white folk want to have it both
ways. They want it all. I think the University has to
decide what its needs are, and I think it needs to have
a diverse student population that reflects the popu
lation of the state. And how you make that happen,
I guess is where we are right now.
TRENDS
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“A lot of people see it as a roadblock
that they have to get through because
it’s required,’’ he said.
UVA
The non-Westem required course
has been at the University of Virginia
for about four years, said Ray Nelson,
dean of the College of Graduate Arts
and Sciences.
“|The courses) an* not called multi
per se," Nelson said. “They are very
gingerly defined”
The implementation didn’t require
any new courses, but some had to be
adapted, he said.
UF: Had it for a while
One of the problems of implement
ing a new requirement is acquiring
funds for new faculty and resources.
The University of Florida added a
cultural diversity requirement to its
general education core five years ago
with little debate, but after budget cuts
this fall, the requirement was inte
grated into other core.
Under an International Studies
and Diversity program, students must
take six hours of classes in social stud
ies and humanities, indicated with an
“I" prefix on the list of class offerings,
said Keith Legg. chairman of UFs
Curriculum Committee.
Pat Maroney, a sophomore at UF,
said it hasn’t been a problem, but that
core classes are a bother.
“All the general education require
ments are a burden on people," he said.
UT: No money
The University of Tennessee is an
other school where funding could be a
problem.
Linda Maxson, associate vice chan
cellor of academic affairs, said the idea
has been considered, but budget cuts
wouldn’t allow for it.
Maxson said many current courses
are identified as culturally diverse in
their course description.
“I have mixed feelings,” she said. “I
think diversity is an important issue at
the university, but I don’t think (a di
versity requirement) is the best way to
achieve it."
Maxson, who worked at Penn
State, said it had a diversity require
ment that didn’t offer enough courses.
Texas A&M: No room in the core
Texas A&M University also looked
at the requirement, but had to post
pone the idea because of concern over
fitting the class into the core, said Jim
Ashlock, executive director of universi
ty relations.
“What was being proposed was the
insertion into the core curriculum ...
we have to be careful with core cur
riculum,” he said.
No requirement hasn’t been a prob
lem, because 75 percent of students al
ready take diversity classes, he said.
“There are already a multitude of
courses that can be classified as multi
cultural,” he said.
Ashlock said Texas A&M President
Ray Bowen has told the faculty to in
sert a multicultural approach into its
coursework.
Amber Clark, a senior at A&M and
a member of the Intertribal Council of
the Native American Student
Association, said it’s too bad the re
quirement didn’t happen.
“Had it gone through, it would’ve
been very beneficial," Clark said.
USC: Schools decide
While the University of South
Carolina has no overall requirement,
some of its schools have one.
Their College of Liberal Arts imple
mented a three-course cultural aware
ness requirement effective Fall 1989,
said Mary Ann Byrnes, associate dean
of the College of Liberal Arts.
The addition was part of an over
haul on a 20-year-old curriculum.
Byrnes said.
“We felt that the world had
changed drastically in 20 years,” she
said.
The requirement makes students
take three courses that address the
culture of the student’s foreign lan
guage class, a North American culture
and a course which has non-Westem
and non-American material.
Ole Miss: Maybe in the future
While the University of Mississippi
has no requirement, it is starting a re-
evaluation of its core this summer,
which increases the possibility of
adding a requirement to the core, said
Gerald Walton, interim vice chancellor
of academic affairs.
“I think Imulticulturalisml is an ex
tremely important part of an educated
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person’s education, perhaps more in the
deep South," Walton said.
LSU: Maybe in the future
Louisiana State University has no
plans for a diversity requirement, said
Bill Jenkins, vice chancellor for aca
demic affairs and provost.
“We promote multiculturalism in
may ways,” he said. “I have some reser
vations about making it a require
ment.”
He said that giving students a di
verse education is important and that
this is promoted on campus, but still is
a very sensitive issue.
UA: Couldn’t decide what to do
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curriculum committee has discussed
the issue at length, said Gail Hasson,
director of admissions and registration
in the College of Arts and Sciences.
The proposed requirement failed when
it reached UA’s University Council.
She said the faculty had trouble de
ciding what the requirement should
encompass.
“I think there was no agreement at
what (the requirement) should be."
she said. *There’s always a problem
deciding what all of them should do."
She said discussion about the re
quirement may come up again.
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