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Cramer, 111., March 14,1895.
•* Dear Brother Simms: ,
lam now a subscriber to your
paper, and have received the
second number; Ido hope it will
earnestly contend for the laith
once delivered to the saints. I ,
feel to be one of the least in my
~z * Father’s house, yet,l would like to
write a little for the' children of
God—the readers of your paper,
and if you think it will do no
harm I hope you will publish it for
me. Ido not want any strife, or
controversy, for God knows I de
sire nothing but the peace and <
prosperity of Zion. i
Alter reading your editorial in ;
£ the last number, headed: ‘-Teach <
ers, True and False,” I paused t
. and wondered, and read it over.
NRjgg and over, and felt impressed at
once towrite you, and after trying
to free myself of the impression
and finding I cannot I am now
seated to write, I hope the Lord
may guide my pen, sathat I may
not harm or offend any of the little
ones, thot have a hope in Jesus.
Now my dear fellow-traveler 1
have had a name among the Old
School Predestinarian Baptists for
■ gbout thirty five years; I have
spent a great deal of, .time and
money in traveling amongst them
in the Eastern and Western
States, and my acquaintance with
this people—the people I love, is
somewhat extensive. I have heard
a many of our Southern brethren
preach to-wit: Aiders Gold, Has
t sell, Williams, Hanks, Eubanks
and Hardy, with others, but I
must say that in all my acquain
taiice I have never heard anyone
teach or preach that we might do
evil or sin that gbod may come,
or of anyone doing wrong and say
ing they had to do it. This is a
new thing to me. The Apostle
said of, such that their damnation
* was just, God “tempteth no man.”
Anyone doing; wrong—sinning
against God or the.-Churchy and
them to make any such defense,
X that God had . predestinated it,
B‘iMi'u viid ai
■ ■ minians had said to me-often: “If
. I believed.as you do, I would take
my fill of sm,” etc. Now I think
lin suph cases tliey prove beyond
L all question that they have nevdr
had their “fill- of sin.” There are
but two kinds of sinners-—those
fwho love sin, and those who hate
sin, and for myself I can say that I
do hate and abhor sin r :and <yyhen
I do wrong, I feel condemned I
charge not God with- having pre
destinated me to do wrong. Such
an one that would charge; God, or
say that they had t© disgrace them
selves; shows plainly, by .such talk
that they arehyprocrites,and have
never known the depravity of
their own hearts; or else they have
fotgoften they Were purged from
their old sins, I believe all such
should be delivered over -to Satan. :
“How shall we that are dead to
. sin live any longer therein” Shall
we continue in sin that grace may
abound? .God forbid.” ‘ J
Dear Brother we have the dis
cipline of the church laid down in
the Scriptures too plain to enter
tain any fear. /. You speak ot.
- - “Fatalism.” If date is that God
. determined the fiibfd destiny of all
the people in the world—that they
are safe for .whom Christ died,
then I believe in. fate. But I don’t
fate about.
it. Who shall reply against God,
for “He liatb declared . tlie end
from the beginning, saying my
counsel shall stand, an 4 I wilt dp
' all my pleasure.” Q.tir God is
,> a God of purpose—never has left
anything to fate: Those who ,'be
lieve in fate say “If I am to be
saved, I will be saved” and con
tinue to wallow in the mire. ;;
y I behevei that the -Watchmen:
and all of God’s children should
• I I
contend against all that is wrong
. and live soberly and godly in- this
present eyi] world. Should we
contend.that j t js.rjghttp do,wrong
r because others bave,.done wrong,
*•' and Gotf’s purpos^r was manifest in
it; so that the wYatft “bf " nlhli A was
AO 1
>. made to praise Him? There an
many things in the Scriptures w<
r might men!ion that is two plain t<>
e deny—such as wicked men pul
J tmg the Savior to death; they did
!i only that which was before de-
I .termined to be done, yet. it was a
S sin, but may this suffice.
3 Now deaf brother, do you know
f of such eases among our people in
; your country? Or is it like one
has said about the same in lllinos
r —-they were always a good way
r off- If there is any such anywhere
- I think they should be excluded.
I or do you mean those who believe
in Unlimited Predestination? If so
i you brand and misrepresent many
of God's orderly walking children,
that would not for a moment toler
ate such licentiousness. If jt be
this class, I think you did them
a great wrong to speak as you
di<U There are great mysteries,
in the Bible, and I think it wronj.’
for brethren to agitate and de
bate the question, 1 think the
words “Unlimited” or “Absolute”
should not be used, for they are
not bible words. I think all or
derly Baptists should labor .for the
thing that make for peace, and
things whereby one may edify
another, and not make a brother
an offender for a word, because
we don’t see alike in all things
“Oh! that mine eyes were a foun
tain of tears, that I might Weep
day and. night for the slain of . the
daughter of my people.” -
Dear fellow-traveler, our time is
but shdrt here; then let us not
spend it in strife and confusion. |
VZe Only see in part, and through, (
a glass darkly. Division and con-1 I
tention among us does a great 1
deal of harm. If we can’t say c
anything but evil about a brother, t
ets keep quiet, live in peace, and s
when we come to die we will feel I
the better. I have seen much
confusion in my day, that has been c
heart-rending. It hurts so bad to v
see good preachers fall out and 1
separate.
Now, mv dear, brother I will a
offense at what I have written. 1
hope what I have said may do
good. May God be with you in
.your editorial labors. I am taking
■four Baptist papers—The Primi
tive Baptist, Messenger of Peace
arid The Signs of the Times and
1 think they are all good.
. “ E.D. Varnes.
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; ! Wade, ,Ga., Feb. 24 th,. 1895
Elder,Lee Hanks: , , r ,
- Dear Brother in Gospel bonds:
We had no meeting at our church
on Saturday of our last meeting
the weather was so disagreeable,
but we. had a very pleasanf.meeting
on Sunday. I desired very much
to hear Elder Hassel, but oii.the
account of the weather I. failed; I
trust you will come again through
our section when the weather is
more pleasant and we all can enjdy
ourselves together again more
comfortably so far as the weather
is concerned. I think perhaps we
will have bettor times herein the
near future than we. have had in
the past while strife and conten
tion was so wide spread in among
our churches and associations I
think. I can see a better spirit
among the little- ow of. Christ’s
fold and inquiring for the .good
old way of-Zfoh. /May the good
Lord enable us to look out of our
selves and look - to Him whence all
our help must and does comei.
May the-gdoct'Tjotd bb with job
and direct you in all yduri pijgrimi
age while.in this lower ground of
sofow desirc for the'R'edeOmi
ers • sake.,, This leaves • meo and
family all s£ll.i ’
3w ■Yours truly in hdpe^ ; -.J*
•>]’ ' KW. G
:il ';0 < j ■■ i.-*.?->ii 1
Remarks.
/l ain gUd to. hear from you all
my brother. The Baptist f£6l,
precious to me in your country. q
fiqp£ ; tb.yjst you in the tieur fq
dure/: 1 hold you and
ybvr precious family in gHtefdl
remeinberarice: /May...the.. Xorh.
bless you al] and revive, his work
among his people in your country
h.
EXPERIENCE.
Buck Horn, Ala., <<
March Ist 8195.
I Elder Leo Hanks,
Boston, Ga.
, Dear Brother:
1 will try to fulfill my promise
to you in writing some of what I
hope has been the dealings of ,the
Lord with. me.
1 was reared by pious parents both
of whom were members of the
Missionary Baptist, and have had
for years the utmost confidence, in
them as Christians, They taught
tne to be inoral, but never tought
me that morality was Christianity,
neither’did they persuade mo to be
religious in any form.
My notion of religion was that it
would do for old people who were
about ready to enter the grave, but
•is for myself, I was young, and had
thought I had the promise of a long
life; and whan I got old and gray
headed I would get religion, for I
loved the world, and wanted to'
enjoy it. But in the fall of 1874
•[ was made to realize that I had
no lease of my life, and that death
.vas liable to come at any moment,
And felt if I died in that condition
I was lost, therefore, I began to
reform for I thought that was all I
had to do to be
I veriljr thought I could keep the
law, but the better I,.tried, to live
the greater sinner I saw myeelf to
be.
I scon saw that 1 could not keep
the law, consequently my doom was (
sealed, which was eternal death.
I would go to meeting and the
preachers would say the sinner
must believe in Christ inorder to .
be saved eternally. ! thought that
lof myself must perform these, j
conditions; therefore I tried with ",
all my power to believe he would
save me,bvt for my life I not ,
believe that He would save 'sne.;.
I bcliqyed that He would save* t
others, but I was too wicked and j
vile to believe that He would save ]
me.v'-'i : 1 ',• ■ *
I continued in this condition for
about six months,and never expect
ed to be able to tell of the trouble
and anguish ofsail 1 LRI uugft W 1 IIVN
[ passed. I Would often seek some
secluded place where no eyes but
God’s could see me and try to beg
God for his mercy ,but ail that .1
could say, was: “Lord be merciful
to me a sinner.” This was pay cry
day and night: Finally I attended
protracted meeting at Shiloh
church of Which father and
mother belonged, rind offered for
prayer every opportunity,but I still
got no relief.' It seemed that
there was no hope for me, but I
must sink forever beneath the
frownsofa sin avenging God. One
night after la.aving the mourner’s
bench and- returned "to my seat
feeling worse if possible than j
had ever felt, the preacher began to
talk and that burden of sin and
condemnation that was weighing
so heavily upon me rolled away,
and I felt rs light as a feather, and
every body looked beautiful, and
seemed to be praising God. I
felt like I wanted to tell some one
of my feelings, and I went to one
of my uncles that was present and
tried to get him to go home with
me, but he refused to go, not
knowing my condition. I started
bomb by myself, a distance of
about five miles, but I soon.fell in
company with a man that went
my road about two miles, and he
talked all the time about some
thing, but .I...d|d hdt know what.
Shortly aftori we. separated I found
myself aiu giiig: ' : ; /
’’Amazing grace:how sweet the sound,:
’’That sa yes a wretch like me.
I think if I cvor, sang with the
spiritand with the understanding,
: it'’was that night;'-:I fee! like I
would never see any more trouble
and could / . " : ‘ ”
i• J f ’■ . . .i.i.G .' ' . . £ ; -
.Sail to Heaveif on flowery beds of ease,
'Chough to win the prize,
And sailed through bloody seas.
I thfwght when I reached home
1 would MU fat icr and mother but |
before I reached home, it seemed a
voice spoke tdWe' and said,“you are
deceived, ’? and from that- moment
I began to doubt and never told
my 'parents “ for fear I should
deceive them. I felt like I
wanted to jjoin the church,
Upd did offer myself to the Mis
sionary Baptists and was received,
'• but I soon ..began’ to be in great
'• trouble, I was so weak and sinful
I knew I was certainly deceived in
the whole matter, and the church
had no buisness with me. Satan
3 made mo believe that I would live
i free from I was a Christian;
3 and it give me a great deal of
trouble. In the midst of
1 this trouble mind was directed
5 tb read the seventh’ chapter of
Roman? in which Paul gives his
1 experience. T found that he told
; my experience, and it gave mo
' J comfort. IthJiight if such a man as
1 Paul could not live free from sin
certainly the Lord would not ex
pect such a being Us I was to live
perfect. I still have my doubts and
fears, and I c?<pectts have them as
long as I live. :
Dear BrotKpr Hanks,this is a part
of what I hope to be the dealings
of the Lord with me. I may soon
give my call to the ministry, and
reason for living the Missionary
Baptist. I hbpe you and ail the dear
.children of God will remember me
at a.th rone of grace. Your little
and unworthy Bother in Christ
| U. W. Harden.
■ Ji'
Wp hope you will continue to
write to us Hear -brother. —H.
’ Dade City, Fla., March 12, 1895.
Eld Lee Hanks. "
Dear Brother in Gospel Bonds:
Y6ut Christian letter to hand some
days,and I should have written you
before now, but have been on the ■
Wing most pi the time. While I
have souw desire to write, or
answer your letter this evening, <
I fear that I have no thoughts to <
impart that would be of interst to <
you. ; -
1 was forcibly impressed with your I
manner of fishing out, and hunting <
iup all thdMtitle ones. I believe J
rhe Frihiitive Baptist above all i
people love those who feel th be <
less than t&£jeast of All slants, yet i
they do ni th n t in f ereaf I
ih trying > get to the <
church of od, that
tionsof th day work
and seeking that rest that
tb the pebf|le of God in walking in
obediencq./They are thus caught in
the mesh or the drag net of worldly
instutitions, some are entangled all
their when if the church
had given them proper encourge
mept and admonished them in love
and meekness to “Go'home, tell
thy friends how great things the
Lord' hath done for thee, and how
he hath had compassion on thee,”
they wouhji. have been loosed from
the grave clothes of error arid sup
perstition. How : sensitive the little
ones 1 how" they prize a kind word,
arid when we speak it riot they
think we do not cate for them.
How one is d-awn to those who are
sharers of his spiritual secrets,thbse
who mingle prayer with him before
the throne, those who never forget
him. when within the veil,oh !there
is something cheering in the light
of. their kindly eye I Christians have
tiqs ’ sweeter than any love the
world knows. They have therii in
their hearts,in as much as they are
partakers of one grace, washed in
one fountain, filled With the same
Spirit, having one heart, members
oiib of pother, yet some of the
Lord’s anointed appear luke-warm
toward the secret Christian.
You say that yoit will return home
soon, and tha Eld. Hall, who is
with you will fill the appointments.
Now,l regret this trirh df you rs,for
I feel that the Lord has and will
continue to bless your labors in the'
churches of this couritry. Because
.you were brought low last Monday
and made to weep and feel that
your entire life was a dismal fail
ure is no more, than What is com
mon umppg the . servants of the
Lord. If they were not thus ex-’
ercised, how could they comfort
the littlb ones who often get into
Straits that are made to cry.
“Is.there any one like me?”Mornipg
al ways follows .night,. David says,
“the Lord’s anger endureth, but a
moment;iii His favor is life. Weep
ing may endure fora nighty but
joy cometh in the moTning.”::ocu; '
’ . Whenx.. Israel was travailing
through the wilderness, they came
. .KA/ . - “
r&
to bitter places like Marah, where
the waters Weik bitter; there was
no rest, but they Were journeyning
and must not return. i.Sometimes
they come to sweet refreshing
places like Elim, with its seventy
palm trees and twelve wells of wa
ter,and yet they could imt sit dbwn
and say: “this is our rest and here
we will abide.lt was sweet when
the manna fell around the camp
every morning,and when the water
followed them, nevertheless it was
a wilderness and a land of drought,
and the shadow of death. So the
servants that are commanded to go
into all the world, and preach the
gospel, toever. creature, cannot
throw their armorbyin this world,
and say, “here I will take my
rest.”
When a traveler is journyciug, he
sees many fine estates and beauti
ful houses,and flowers,and gardens,
but fie does not set his heart upon
them. He admires and passes on.
Neither should the Lord’s minis
ters twine affections around any
thing pertaining to this sinful
world, nor should they set their
affections on home lands, or keq
dred. That example of sejf-sacri
fices arc taught by the lives of
Abraham, Isaic and JaCob who
lives in tents, declareing plainly
that they sought a better country.
But why should I be thus writing
when I am,perhaps,the most timid
and egsily oyer whelmed by the
bitter waters of Maran of any that
bears the name preacher, and when
I find a refreshing spot like Elim
I would linger long in such a.swept
place.
I was glad to find that you had no
excusses to make,or apoligies to ren
der, but seemed to serve the breth
ern with a ready mind when called
upon., But not so with me for I
find my self shirking duties kt
every converted opportunity; stay
ing and going ; trying to preach
and trying to quit these are some
of the pharses of this poor sinner.
Since. I have drifted on to self a
poor subject, I will close these in
coherent thoughts. Remember me
Kindly to your wife and little
ones.
h- : > .. ~ ;Moz EXE 1T GJLUeSt
Write again rriy Brother, I shrink
from duties too realizing my great
weakness.
H.
A Comforting Letter.
Eld. Lee Hariks.
■ ‘ 1 • Boston, Ga. ;
Dear Brother: After reading your
dear letter of the 25th I was made
to think you felt like one of old,-
whose groanings cannot be uttered
and this morning my first thoughts
were with the poet when he wrote:
‘‘Judge not the Lord bj feeble sense,
Buttrust Him for flis grace;
behind a frowning providence
He hides a smiling face.”
Dear Brother there’s not a shad
ow of a doiibt in my mind,but that
sweet rest is for you, which awaits.
God’s dear children when life’s
toilsome, weary life is. over. If I
could feel to put my trust in Jesus,
and be led by his dear hand, and
fol lbw where he bide you, how glad
I would ieell But lam so rebel-.,
lious and do not bear the mark of
one of God’s children and sc> often
fepr I have been mistaken about
having a christain hope. But he
who tempers the wind to the shorn
Lamb will keep and support you.’
Trust Him, praise him ever mote.
.1 am enjoying the company of
your dear, wife and famiiy.l would,
be glad to have you here with us if
it was the master’s will, as it is rio|t
I feel thankful that~alt-are-as/ well
reconciled as they are. ■ Brother
take courage. . Rik: ?ir k' ;/
The.storm of- . life will soon be
over with many of us, “
Your Unworthy Sister,
Mrs. J. khnton. ; ,
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Additions.
Elder P. G: Mdtloriald writes
That three joined at Mt. Beazar—-
at .ttieir last riieetidg/
■ f t lLlu’* L/i’-j 1 ’ - »’■ til G 1 t' r ' ,r ’ *■**• ;
Two joined at Harrriony, March
one joined ‘at pleas,ant
■ ifZ’II if!'’>7’. 2P*' 1 .■ j/’-i'-I
Grove, March 27tb and one joined
at Live Oak, March 31st. —jl,
on* ot btimojb i«3 ,
3 Medela, Fla., March 17th 1895.
3 Elders Simms and Hanks: Very
> Dear Brethern in hope of ..eternal
* life, with which God .who cannot
> lie, promised before the world was.
I have been thinking for several
■ days that I would try by the help
; of the Lord to write a short article
’ for the Banner,and try to eacour-.,
1 age you.m your good, work. J, have
1 not seen but two copies of ,it as i yet,
and must say that I am wel I pleased
1 with the matter it contained, and
more espcially the editorial written
1 by S. on the subject ot predestina
tion,your views exactly suits me. I
have always observed,there are two
' extremes to every question; and
poor feeble man is liable to Like
. one or the other.
It seemes to me that the doctrine
of predestination is so sqblime
that we should be content to preach
and,write about it only as God has
used the word, and cease to cavil
about things that are unteVealed.
We know that Go<l has predes
tinated the salvation of all His
chosen ones for word, teach it,
when we attempt to go explain or
contend for a thing God has not
revealed WEtbecome comforted and
mislead others and cripple the lit
tle ones.
We who are called of God to
preach, should have,all our lives, a
disposition to comfort and instruct
Zion’s little ones and never consid
er self; for self would show smart
hess.self wants to be a big preacher
self wants to diiv.j deeper into the
hidden things of Gpd than anyone
else, self loves,the faltering xyords
from the listerning masses and
oh I what has self not done?
I confess'd have had Somoiuch
experience .with self but new.being
humbled asi hope by the grace and
mercy of the Lord .1 am rxqw xvil
ling,l think, to be the Lord’s little
anything.
Your little unworthy And afflicted
■Brother. ’ i- He
T. J. McMullen.
N £ne breihern and sisters holdiiig
letters of dismission from differ
ent Primitive Baptists, chuches
called a presbytery consisting of
Elders Levi Starung and John
Mjarmur . - ' -
and were duly
separate body and were pronounced
a church of QBhst.After which the
church went unto conference and
brother John N. Bass aiid J. L.
Townsend were ordained to the
bfijeeof Deacons- Elder Starliqg
was called to serve the church as
pastor. The chqrch was pained
“Union”Pqst officeßegister Taylpr
County Fla. Regular meeting time
Saturday before the first Sunday
in each month. Our little church
is situated in a desolate spot of the .
country, the nearest Elder living
thirty miles away and the dearest
Primitive Baptist church twenty
six. We will appreciate the visit
of our brethren at any time, and
hope they will come to see us.
Samuel Register.
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