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PAGE 2 GEORGIA BULLETIN THURSDAY, MARCH 19, 1964
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VATICAN CITY (NQ—Pi ob-
lems connected with the "dia
logue of the Church with the
modern world" are among the
most critical still facing the
Second Vatican Ecumenical
Council, according to Augustin
Cardinal Bea, S. J.
The German - born Biblical 1
scholar who heads the Secre
tariat for Promoting Christian
Unity also expressed general
satisfaction with the council’s
progress to date, particularly
with the climate created by the
discussions of the bishops. He
outlined his views in an ex
clusive interview with the N.C.
W.C. News Service.
CARDINAL Bea, speaking in
terms of the critical problems
before the council’s third ses
sion, noted that there are al
ready a number of schemata
before the council, such as the
schema on Revelation and on
the nature of the Church.
"In addition to the questions
which have already been dis
cussed but not completed, I
believe that the most critical
problems that the council still
has to deal with are above all
the problems connected with
the dialogue between the Church
and the modern world," he
said.
As examples he mentioned
"the demographic problem, the
problem of peace and many
others contained in the well
known 'Schema 17' (which is
devoted to the relation of the
Church and the modern world)."
HE ADDED that "in addition,
there is the question of religious
liberty, of relations between
Catholics and Jews, which could
possibly be treated together
with the question of relations
with monotheists and non-
Christians in general. Last but
not least there is the question
of the attitude toward the mil
lions of men without religion,
the victims of practical or theo
retical atheism."
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Asked how many more ses
sions of the council he thought
might be necessary to complete
the work, the 82-year-old Jesuit
Cardinal said that to give a cor
rect answer to such a question
"it would be necessary to know,
many things which escape my
knowledge and, in part, all hu
man knowledge.
"However, I am convinced
that everything possible must
certainly be done to avoid tak
ing up any more of the most
valuable time of the shepherds
of souls than is absolutely nec
essary-all the more so since
the earlier sessions already
have helped the Bishops suffi
ciently to know the present sit
uation of the Church and of the
world."
CARDINAL Bea noted that "it
is difficult to avoid the impres
sion that certain questions could
have been solved more speedi
ly." But at the same time he
cautioned that "it is neces
sary to consider also to what ex
tent this would have been possi
ble, in such a large assembly,
without a certain infringement
of the freedom of discussion."
Evaluating the results so far
of the council meetings, he said
he felt that "on the whole they
are satisfactory if we consider
how much has been concluded,
how much has already been
prepared in great part and,
above all, considering how
greatly the council Fathers
themselves benefited from the
discussions.
"Indeed, it seems to me that
60% at least of the results of the
council consist in this useful
ness which discussion offered
to the council Fathers and, as a
result, also to their work."
The Cardinal was asked what
he thought about the report that,
if the third session is to be
the last, the balance of the
council’s work could be done by
post - conciliar commissions
and by mail. He replied:
"I FULLY understand both
the anxiety as regards the ex
penses connected with the coun
cil and, more especially, that of
not keeping the shepherds away
from their flocks for too long a
time. I do not doubt that cer
tain matters can also be solved
by mail or through post-concil-
iar commissions which would
execute the directives and fol
low the intentions of the coun
cil."
However, he added, "it is
necessary at the same time to
bear in mind also the great value
of the live exchange of ideas in
the discussions attended in per
son by the council Fathers. Cor
respondence by mail and com
mission meetings are not on
the level of live meetings."
Cardinal Bea indicated that
he was not in favor of removing
all secrecy of the council: "It
seems to me that what has been
done for the press during the
second session of the council is
sufficient. I do not believe that
it would be useful simply to lift
the secrecy of the Council."
LOOKING AT the question of
secrecy in terms of the his
tory of past councils, the Prince
of the Church added that it was
"sure that today there is prob
ably no danger of a recurrence
of the psychosis of the days
when theological discussions
were followed with the same
passions as the circus games.
"Nevertheless, we should not
forget the grievous influence
which the Impassioned public
PAROCHIAL SCHOOL
Pastor To Drop
Only Two Grades
MILWAUKEE (NC)--The West
Allis pastor who announced he
would close the first four grades
of his parochial school now says
he will close only the first and
second.
Father Oscar Winninghoff,
pastor of St. Aloysius parish,
announced the step after he
conferred with Msgr. Edmund
J. Goebel, Milwaukee archdio
cesan superintendent of
schools.
FATHER WINNINGHOFF said
he will drop the two grades at
the start of the 1965 school
year.
The priest proposed last
month that the West Allis-West
Milwaukee public school board
build a 24-room school build
ing on parish property which
would enroll half of the 1,154
pupils in the parish school. The
board rejected the proposal.
HE THEN said he would close
the first four grades, putting
some 600 pupils in area public
schools. But the new announce
ment means that only half that
number will be sent to public
schools.
FOR THE SICK
’This is wonderful,’’ said E.
G. Kellogg, superintendent of
the West Allis-West Milwaukee
public school system. "It cuts
our problem exactly in half.
I’m sure we can work it out."
FATHER WINNINGHOFF said
that dropping grades one and two
will mean that he can have four
classrooms for each of the six
remaining grades, with an aver
age of 38 pupils per room.
Msgr. Goebel said there are
a total of 232 parish grade
schools in the Milwaukee arch
diocese, of which 19 do not have
the full eight grades. Total en
rollment is about 100,000.
'THERE HAS been no arch
diocesan ruling on dropping any
particular grade such as is
about to happen in Cincinnati,"
the monsignor said. "Each in
dividual pastor has worked out
the formula for educating pupils
in his parish schools."
Public school head Kellogg
estimates it will cost his dis
trict about $125,000 more a
year to accommodate the pupils
turned away from St. Aloysius.
Marists Planning
Lourdes Pilgrimage
The National Rosary Pilgri
mage for the Sick to Lourdes,
sponsored by the Lourdes,
Bureau of the Marist Fathers
in Boston, Mass., in conjunct
ion with the Catholic Travel
Office in Washington, D. C„
will depart on September 28th
from New York via Alitalia jet
flight to Lourdes. The pilgri
mage will be for nine days and
the Novena for the Sick will be
gin with solemn Mass in New
York the morning of Septem
ber 28th with Benediction and
Blessing of the Sick prior to de
parture at the Chapel of Our
Lady of the Skies at Kennedy
International Airport.
EXirlng their stay in Lourd
es, the sick will be cared for
and accommodated at either
hospital or hotel. Daily will
participate at Mass at the Grot
to of the Apparitions, will be
taken to the baths each day,
assist in the procession of the
Most Blessed Sacrament and
Blessing of the Sick each after
noon, and the Candlelight Pro
cession each evening.
Reservations for the National
Rosary Pilgrimage for the Sick
can be made by contacting
Reverend Rudolph Deziel, S.M.,
The Marist Fathers, Lourdes
Bureau, 27 Isabella Street,
Boston 16, Mass., or the Cath
olic Travel Office, Dupont Cir
cle Building, Washington, D.C.
or their local Alitalia Office.
discussion on papal infallibility
undoubtedly exercised on the
discussion in the council hall
during the First Vatican Coun
cil."
And bringing the point up the
the present day, Cardinal Bea
asked pointedly: "Did not cer
tain papers, during the second
session of the Second Vatican
Council itself, set themselves
up, with suspect zeal, as de
fenders of pontifical primacy
against the conciliar Fathers
themselves?"
TURNING TO the subject of
religious liberty, a subject dear
to the Cardinal's heart since it
was one of the five chapters
on the schema on Ecumenism
prepared by his secretariat,
the Cardinal stressed that "I
absolutely wish to respect the
freedom of movement and of
decision of the competent di
rective organs of the council.’’
While pointing out that the
arranging of the agenda of the
council belongs to the various
bodies named by the Pope, the
Cardinal added that "neverthe
less, considering the fact that
the second session of the coun
cil was concluded in the middle
of a discussion of a schema,
of which religious liberty is a
part, it seems logical to be
lieve that this schema should
be among the first on the agen
da of the next session."
He said he has no doubt that
it will be discussed. Further
more, he stated, "religious lib
erty seems to be a theme so
dear to the Church, and of such
importance for our relations
with non-Catholic brethren and,
indeed, with Christians in gen
eral, that I do not doubt that
it will obtain a very wide ap
proval." In connection with
this the Cardinal singled out the
interest and support which the
chapter on religious liberty has
received from many of the
American bishops.
Asked for his opinions on the
council's consideration and ap
proval of the chapter dealing
with the Church’s spirutual re
lation to Judaism, the Cardi
nal said his thinking is the same
he had just expressed on the
chapter on religious freedom
"both as regards discussion
and approval."
CARDINAL Bea further said
he trusts that "in Schema 17
(the Church and the modern
world) there will be a firm
though necessarily brief state
ment" regarding race rela
tions. He said he thought such
a statement should be made
"on a matter of so much im
portance and that it should be
in accordance with the solemn
declaration of Pope John XXIII
in his broadcast message
September, 1962, a month be
fore the opening of the coun
cil," and also in accordance
with the thoughts expressed on
the matter in the council’s first
message to the ’world in 1962,
at the first session.
Asked if a world senate of
bishops might be established to
assist the Pope in meeting ser
ious world problems, and how
the consequences of the concept
of coilegiality might be enfor
ced, the Cardinal said he pre
ferred not to guess.
He pointed out that Pope Paul
VI has made various references
to these matters in both his
opening and closing speeches
of the second session. "It is
nevertheless difficult to fore
see its form, perhaps also be
cause the question is partially
connected with the question of
the reform and the 'aggiorna-
mento’ of the Roman curia,
which has also solemnly been
announced by the Pope." Car
dinal Bea stated that the form
depends on what the Pope de
sires and that the council can
not limit the Pope.
ASKED about the fate of the
notion of married deacons, Car
dinal Bea, said: "I do not be
lieve that the council will take
special decisions in the matter
for the simple reason that the
situation in various countries is
very' different with the result
that a uniform solution does not
seem possible. It will therefore
'be necessary' simply to leave
the way open for further de
velopments."
At some later period, he not
ed, the question may be left to
the discretion of the national
episcopal conferences.
ARCHBISHOP Egidio Vagnozzi, Apostolic Delegate to the United
States, presents a four-foot candle bearing the Pope’s coat-
of arms, to Msgr. Thomas J. Grady, director of the National
Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in Washington. The gift
of Pope Paul VI to the people of the United States, it w ill be placed
in the shrine as a reminder for all to pray for the success of the
Vatican Council.
Protest Action
By Pakistan
CALCUTTA, India (RNS) ~
A resolution adopted at a pro
test meeting sponsored here
by some dozen Christian
organizations urged the United
Nations Subcommittee for Hu
man Rights to "set its machi
nery in motion immediately to
give the world a first-hand re
port of the treatment of Chris
tian minorities in East Pakis
tan."
Ed Curtin
Presents
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