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iiu ah Ah a substitute which should I : ubtaiu the honor of the nation* II .iftv gentleman would bring forward a pioposition which should include that principle of resistance to the decrees con, Hail'd, J.Brown, Calhoun,Cham pion, Clay, Clopton, Crawford, Dcs- Ira, Eppcs, Findley, Fisk, Gannett, Gardner, Gholson, Holland, How- id’.Ir-belligerents which duty to Godlard, Hufty, Johnson, Love, Lyon Nays.—-Messrs. W. Alston, Ba-lother negotiator will be substituted, cent communication horn ts • 1 v is 11. /’I CV n A !/->•>/« nn/1 iroi'ir im.lu/liirll r/*arht*fl lis at II lute from France, the French government for tlistiv and their country enjoined on them, he would vote for it. Let us not, said he, he deluded by the idea, that after we pass this bill and thus'prostrate the honor of the nation, we maybe permitted in another way to expressjly—39. our opposition to the injurious de- Yf.as.— Messrs. L. J. Alston, taxes. No,sir, let this bill once be!Bassett, Bibb, Blaisdcll, Boyd, K. riveted on us—we may waste ounlirown, J. C. Chamberlain, W. Mumford, Newbold, Nicholson, John Porter, P. B. Porter. Rhea, (Ten.) Richards, Root, Ross, Sam mons, Scvbert, Shaw, J. Smith, Stan ford, Thomson, Turner, and Weak- portant letter we have given in our paper of this day, from Mr. Smith to Mr. Pinkney, relative to the unhappy dispute with Mr. Jackson.—The whole materials however are yet in complete. We want the correspon dence betwen Mr. Erskine and the Secretaiy lor the Foreign Depart ment. January 12.—The important news from America, contained in our pa pers of yesterday and to day, relate to three subjects : The finance of th strength in midnight sessions, hut you never would again l>c able to plate the country in the honorable attitude in which it now stands. I feel an ab horrence for the measure in the point of view in which it strikes my mind If I km :w that this amendment had been advised by a member of the ad ministration, I -.mould not hesitate to give my vote Tor hi ■> immediate im peachment., and I would charge him with treason against the liberties and independence of his country ; but the motives which produced it must be honorable. Others may have des paired of successful resistance. But, sir, let us follow the example ol the father of his country. When sur rounded by the battalions of the en emy and watched by the tories, did he despair of success ? He did not. Let us then also advance and not re- trogade as proposed by the bill. Chamberlin, Cobh, Cochran, Cook, Cox, Crist, Cutis, Dana, Ely, Emott, Franklin, Gar denier, Garland, Good- wyn, Gold, Gray, Hale, Haven, Heis- ter, Hubbard, R. Jackson, Jenkins, Jones, Kennedy, Key, Knickcrback- er, Lewis, Livermore, Livingston, Lyle, Macon, Marion, Matthews, M’Brvde, M’Kee, M‘Kim, Miller, Milnor, Montgomery, N. R. Moore, F. Moore, Morrow, Moselv, New ton, Pearson, Pickman, Pitkin, Pot ter, Quincy, Rea, (Pen.) Roane, Sage, Seaver, Smelt, Smilic, G. Smith, S. Smith, Southard, Stanley, Stephen-, son, St urges, Swoope, Taggart, Tay lor, Tracy, Troup, Van Dyke, Van Horn, Van Rensselear, Wheaton, Whitehill, Whiteman, Wilson, and Witherspoon.—81. Mr. Bacon, observed that there country’, with which we have less con January 8.—A long and very im-!which reached us at a late hour last night :— Paris, Jan. 1—“The Merchants have lately had several conferences with the ministers of his imperial majesty, on the present state of af fairs ; and have submitted to them, that trade has, since the Berlin and Milan decrees, taken quite a new di rection, and is carried on by very cir cuitous routes, and by persons disa vowed by the real merchants. “ The ministers announced, that his majesty’s intention was, that neu trals might trade freely with France cern : The conduct to be pursued inland France with neutral countries ; .1// .' Bibb remarked that the gentle man from New York, (Mr. Mum ford) who, now the embargo was gone, was singing hosannas to its prtiisc, was tlie first in the House who suggested the total or partial repeal of that measure. The object ol Mr Bibb’s rising at this time was to de clare that he should vote against the amendments of the Senate, contrary to an intimation be lore given to the J louse, because he understood that the construction given to the remain ing sections was, that they repealed all penalties incurred under the em bargo laws. Mr. Gardenier much pleased with the amendments of the Senate, and hoped they would be concurred in. He rediculed the idea of their involving submission; for, he said, that the bill was the be ginning of a manly resistance. Hither to the U. S. had clone those things which the belligerents had ordered them to do, and left undone those tilings which they had ordered them not to do. He wished to see the sys- was some ambiguity in the bill as to corny the subject ol investigation, the repeal of the penalties incurred They art unjust, in professing to deal measures proposed upon the resump tion of our Orders in Council. Th last is by far the most momentous to pic ; for upon it will ultimately de pend the question of peace or war. The resolutions proposed by Mr Troup, a member of the House ol Representatives, if adopted as a law, would, we apprehend, he decisive ol the determination of the Americans to appeal to the sword. Exclusive of the consideration of this melancho ly result, which must spring from th enactment of them, it will, we appre hend, be evident to all dispassionate understandings, that the resolutions are in theifisclves partial and unjust in every way in which they can be hut not yet recovered under the em bargo laws. It could not be the in tention of any one that a doubt should exist on the subject. It was suffici ent to authorise an amendment that professional men of respectable ta lents differed in the construction ol the terms of the bill. He there fore moved to add a new section to tViis effect: “ that all penalties incur- intjiscrinunately between us and the French: 2. They are unjust, in affect ing to be a more imitation of our Or ders in Council: 3. And they an unjust to the Portuguese and Spani ards. Upon the hostile acts of Congress, resulting from the conduct of Mr. Jackson, we have the less to say, be cause America has certainly.sustain- nued in full force and virture.’’ Messrs. Dana, Livermore, Quin cy, Key, & Gold opposed the atnend- declarcd himself] ment * a11 appearing to differ from Mr. Bacon as to the construction of the law. The amendment was, however, a- grecd to, Ayes 78. Thursday, March 1. DETACHMENT OF MILITIA. The House resolved itself into a committee of the whole on the bill authorising a detachment of Militia of the U. S. After progress therein (the details of which hereafter) the committee rose, reported progress, and obtained relation to Mr. Jackson; and the that the above mentioned decrees had been pointed only against the com merce of England ; and that il they had been misinterpreted, and a false meaning given to them, the mer chants should make representations, which would be favorably heard. It already appears to be agreed, that the visit at sea, a measure of poli cy adopted by all nations, is not a vio- ation of neutral rights, and that the decree of Milan was intended only to prevent the visit directed by the orders of council, of Nov. 1807 ; by which neutrals were obliged to go to Eng land, and there pay a tribute. It is al so understood, that the embargo and provisional sequestration of Ameri can vessels in France, were in conse quence of the embargo law in Ameri ca, followed by the non-intercourse act; that we therefore considered the Americans, who came into our ports, as disguised Englishmen ; and that since America has repealed her laws, ours should fall of themselves. “ The merchants flatter themselves from these communications, and from the news lately received, that Ameri ca was not disposed to yield to Eng land, that the political relations be tween the two countries, for the es tablishment of perfect harmony, wii become active; and as it seems that both nations have a well pronounced intent in their success, they will pro bably agree on some provisional ba sis, and permit trade to resume its relations, reserving the ulterior dis cussions on the great question or ma ritime rights red under the several embargo lawsk'd no ordinary provocation in thi mny be recovered and distributed inlinstancc. IVe have never yet given like manner as if said acts had conti-Our opinion upon this subject, & shall tern changed. There could be no ra tional objection to the amendments. Gentlemen might have a question of leave to set again consistency to settle with themselves, if they voted for them ; but he begged of them not to surrender the vital in terests of the country to the preserva tion of their reputation for consisten cy- ; —consistency in evil could pro duce no benefit. Nothing but folly and obstinacy, he said, could urge to a perseverance. Gentlemen must know the system could produce no good. Let them then do a noble act and recede at once ; it will be a sacri fice of their own consistency to the safety of the country. It was acknow ledged on all hands that the non-inter course ought to he repealed. Mr. G. then suggested the propriety of pass ing the bill as amended, & reserving the part stricken out for a separate bill. Vessels were waiting at a great expence for the passage oi the bill to go to sea, vet doubtful of the course which would be pursued. Injun must result from this uncertain w a vering policy. The citizens of this country, Mr. G. said, had more rea son to be afraid of the restrictions of their ou n government than of the acts of the belligerents. He wished an assurance to be given, by putting an end to these restrictions, that com merce should no longer suffer inter ruption. Mr. Ross was opposed to the bill a- it went from this House, for he thought he saw in it not only pas sive but active submission. H thought he had seen in it an agree ment on the part of the U. S. that the orders in council should be adopt- * d as part of the laws regulating the commerce of the l T . S. Much as he wished the non-intercourse repealed, he said he had rather it should ex pire by its ow n limitation at the end of the session titan have it coupled with any iniuriou's restrictions. H tin i i-lbre moved t<3 postpone theJirr- FOREMAN. Nnu-Tork March 5. VERY LATE FROM ENGLAND. Last evening arrived at this port, the British Packet Eliza, from Fal mouth, with the December and Ja nuary mails. The packet sailed on the 15th of January, and brings Lon don papers to the 12th of January, in elusive, from which we have copied the most interesting articles. The paper of the 12th states as pro bable, that the French decrees would very speedily be revoked. The United states ship of war John Adams, had arrived in England, France and Holland. We learn from the passengers in the Packet, that not the smallest ap prehension was entertained that a war would ensue, in consequence of the dismissal of Me. Jackson. Our London papers are mostly fil led with the correspondence between our government and Mr. Jackson. Further extracts shall be given in our next paper. AMERICAN AFFAIRS. The Pi Mrs of January 4, says— The skein ol American negociati- ous becomes everyday more puzzled, and every day are we more convinc ed that great faults and blunders have been committed by both par ties, or the disputes might long ago have been amicably adjusted.” January 1—The rupture, at pre now therefore state it. First, then, assuming as a fact, that of which considerable doubt is still entertained, that Mr. Erskine did act in u manner contrary to the spirit of his instructions; yet whence originated the necessity of imputing the knowledge of this, our minister’s deviation Irom his directions, to A- inerica ? It is sufficient according to the doctrine cited from Vattel, bv Mr. Smith, to frustrate the validity of an engagement that the minister forming it shouid have violated the instructions given him : it was not necessary to prove or to aver that the other contracting party knew this. “ To refuse with honor, (says a high authority on public lawj to ra tify what has been concluded on by virtue of a lull power, it is necessary that the government shouid have strong and kolid reasons, and that it shew in particular that its minister had violated his instructions.” Hence it appears (if this argument be well founded, of which we have no doubt,) that the offence given to America was perfectly unnecessary and gra tuitous : the real merits of the ques tion being this : “ Did Mr. Erskine violate his instructions ?” Not “ did the American government know he iolated them ?” And in the esta blishment of the former position, Mr. Jackson would have found ample ex ercise for his talents, without under taking the task of proving that men knew that, which they declared they did not know. The last topic upon which we shall touch, is the financial statement of the Secretary to the American Trea sury. We* omitted to observe, in our remarks on this yesterday, that the thirteen hundred thousand dol- whereby the expenditure last year exceeded the receipts, was co vered by a sum already in the Trea sury, the surplus revenue in the pre ceding years ; yet whoever considers that the expences of America have thus, without doubt, been outweigh ing her means, and observes too, that she acknowledges her inability to commence a war (which will impose no sensible burthen upon us,) with out negotiating a loan, for the bare interest ol which she cannot provide, The public relations between this country and America, such as they appeared upon the face of the last A merican news, will, as we before hinted, be materially altered, by the contents of this important letter from France ; the ruler of which here, as we see, gives up the whole grounds of dispute with America, and con cedes not a little to us : “ It already appears to be agreed, that the visit at sea,” (or in other words the right of search for which we have so long contended,) “ a measure of policy adopted by all nations, is not a violati on oj neutral rights, and that th decree of Milan, was intended only to prevent the yisit directed by the orders of council, of Nov. 1808 ; by which neutrals were obliged to go to England, and there pay a tribute. Warmly as we have ever defend ed our orders in council, we cannot still believe that this our enemy change of tone has been entirely pro duced by their operation upon his commerce ; and are not without our suspicions that there is an indication here, of a more general tendency, real or pretended, to accommodation, between France and America; how ever, if the preceding intelligence be authentic, little now remains for ad justment ; and if, on the removal of the American embargo towards France, French commercial edicts fall to the ground, our orders of council, (for which the promulgation of those edicts was the avowed and just cause,) must of course drop with them, without the necessity ol a spe cific treaty.— Times. January 1. It is said the troops embarking from Portsmouth, which were intended for Portugal, are to proceed to Halifax ; another embark- sing this country. I hey also agreed •hat Holland should give every aid of which it j¥»s capable, in any way to the French finances. In this re presentation, some ol the principal commercial houses are said to have joined. It is possible the propositi on maybe accepted, but we doubt whether it will prevent the eventual incorporation with the French em pire. ; , Mr. Oakley is about to return tt> America. Wc believe he leaves town this day in order to embark? January 9.—An immense force it would seem, is proceeding to Spain. Exclusive of 15,000 conscripts that have been trained at Bayonne, vete rans to thrice that amount arc on their march fur the Peninsula. The Russians are said to have been defeated near Sillistria anti compel led to recross the Danube. The Turks are under the command of the Grand Vizier. The Princess Charlotte frigate, with the Lord Keith, Earl Spencer, and Monarch, homeward bound East Indiamen, arrived on Sunday at Portsmouth. They bring the agree able intelligence of the capture oftha Isle of Bourbon. London, Jan. 12.—The American frigate, John Adams, previous to her arrival off Dover, touched, at St. Maloes, where she landed a Mr. Fenwick with despatches for Mr. Armstrong. She lias since-proceed ed to a Dutch port, (after landing a messenger with despatches for Mr. Pinkney,) where she will wait for General Armstrong’s answer. It is also said she carries to Holland the annual interest in hard dollars, oi the loan contracted with that government during the revolutionary war. Col. Burr, formerly Vice President of the U. S. arrived at Hanover on the 16th December. Deal, Jan. 10. The American fri gate, John Adams, arrived here last night from N. York, in 34 days, with, despatches of importance for the A- merican minister at this court, which were immediately forwarded by the 1st Lieutenant of the frigate to Lon- lon. She landed a messenger & des patches at Havre for gen. Armstrong it Paris, and is now to prpcced to Holland, to wait the answer. sent, is not between America and England, but between the American without having recourse to so novel gov ernment and Mr. Jackson. (Times.) London, January 1.— Ministers have been busily occupied in delibe rations upon the last dispatches from America, having held two Cabinet a method as internal taxation ; must hope, at least, that she will not has tily or unnecessarily encounter perils so incalculable. The importance however, of the preceding observations, though w i f r cansid ration cf the amendments Councils between Thursday and trust notthpir correctness, (as lound- tr, the lull indefinitely. Saturday. It is said if the Ameri-jed upon an assumed state- of things ) i he motion was negatived by Yeas lean government refuse to renew theirjwill be materially altered by the ibl. md Mays, as follows: ...... | t- by the fol negotiations with Mr. Jackson, no lowing most important and more re- Raltimore, Feb. 24. By the arrival at this port yester- lay, of the sc hr- Fawn, Capt. Young, In 75 days from St. Sebastians, the Editor of the Whig has received through a mercantile friend, Paris, Bordeaux and Bayonne papers, bring ing Paris news to the 16th of D ec * We have only room for the follow ing to-day. More important articles on Monday. What concerns the U. States more particularly is the following :— On tlie 12th of Dec. the minister of the Interior submitted his report or expose of the situation of the French empire to the Legislative Bo dy ; towards the close oi which he sketches the relations of France with other nations:— C Translatedfor the IThig.J “ His Excellency terminates his report by the examination of the po litical relations of France with foreign powers. The report announces, that a treaty with Sweden will soon be signed ; that Holland equally bruis ed by France and by England, will' undergo some changes—that our re lations with the U. States of America arc only suspended Jor the moment, and will immediately resume their na tural channel; (Marche naturelleJ —that the part of Poland added to the Grand Duchy of Warsaw, and freed from the yoke of Austria, is a- bout to prosper under the laws of the king of Saxony ; that a true friend ship unites Russia to the French em pire—lastly, that the kings, allies of Franee, will receive an increase of ter ritory ; and that France herself ac quires new sources of prosperity, and .uion is immediately to take place at new openings for her*coSmJ^ b? Cork. IOr lllP milDP Cl- _l ... I* « . * Cork, for the same destination. Sir G. P. Provost, in consequence of th uncertain state ot our relations with America, deemed it imprudent to withdraw from Nova Scotia, any part of the military. January 10. Accounts from Hol land received yesterday state, that it was hoped they would be able to \ert the fate with w hich they are me naced. Alarmed with the threat oi annexation to France, the Senate and Legislative Body were understood to have represented, through King Louis, their readiness to adopt and enforce any measures suggested by the means ol the countries incorpo rated With the empire.” On the prospect of speedy resto ration of intercourse with America, cotton fell in l 1 ran.ee to a very low price. Madrid, Dec. 4. His majesty makes; known to the army, that the Spanish army commanded bv the duke DvL Parque, which had imprudently ad vanced on the right bank of the Tomes, has been completely defeated on the 28th ot Nov. at Albaby the 6th corps of the army and the 6th divisi on of Dragoons. 15 pieces of can non, several waggons full of am mu-