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2 mSEYDENIES raws CHARGE I Only the Expense of Investiga tion Discussed at Dinner, He Says. Answpring the charges of Hooper Alexander that the grand jury’s course of action in the investigation of locket clubs hud been outlined at a confer ence with superior court judges in the Capital City club, Solicitor General Hugh M Dorsey today denied abso lutely that there had been any agree ment reached. Mt Alexander In a speech last night st a tally In the Lyric thea ter, address also b\ Seaborn Wright, the prohibition o a tor, charged that the judges, a committee from the county rommlsalonets, members of the grand jury and the solicitor genera l , had conferred on the locker club prnb em in tCapital City club "unfor tunately.’’ He asserted that as a result of this conference the grand jury in dicted locker clubs outside the pale and .est the so-called respectable clubs i strictly alone Mr Dorsey de»' l H r ed toda\ that tin “conference” probabb referred to wus 1 a dinner given by T K Glenn, foreman of the jury on which he served, at tin I Capital City club It was learned at • that dinner that the solidtoi general’s office had no funds for the prospeu : i* n ■ of locker club probes Glenn Offered to Pay the Expenses. Mr. Glenn then offered to pay the ex. penses of an investigation himself and put up the money out of his own pock et and as a result Indictments were brought against a number of dubs. Mr. Glenn himself confirmed the so licitor general's version of the affair. He declared that the locker club Inves tigation was merely one of the phases of the grand jury’s work discussed. He said that the county commissioners had promised to pax him back the money he advanced for the probe, but that he didn't rare if he did not recover a pen ny. His bill was held up yesterday by the county commissioners. The commissioners present at the dinner were S. B. Turman, H. E. W Palmer and Shelby Smith. The three superior court judges are Bell. Pendleton and Ellis None of them would discuss the Alexander charges, but it Is understood they have a statement in reply under considera- Anderson Denies Such Meeting Was Heid. General Clifford I. Anderson, mem ber of the county commission, denied that a meeting such as alluded to by Hooper Alexander last night ever was held. "Shortly before the investigation of the looker clubs several of the commis sioners met with representaives of the grand jury to decide whither they would allow money for the investiga tion of the clubs. This, how eve:, was. 1 think, held al the commissioners' of fice In the Thrower building. "T was not present at that meeting, but know that no distinction of class was made among the clubs. It was do. elded that a careful investigation would be made, and the commissioners agreed to provide a reasonable sum to engage detectives to work on the matter. The detectives were ordered to concern themselves with 'locket clubs.' not any especial class or kind Mr. Alexandei In his speech heid Flaton up to scorn foi his alleged fail ure to come out on the so-called issues, of the da.' He wondered how the president of tin - nan found time io give a barbecue if he didn’t have time to enter into a debate. Then he launched into the "sensation of the evening." reading carefully from man uscript. He said in part: "Therefore, the judges are com manded to >ign the charter only when ‘satisfied’ that it is within the purview of the law. Armed with this brom] power of determination, the judges ought not to sign charters that incor . porate any group of people who ante - tain criminal purposes In seeking the charter, and if they do so they must make answer to tin people and no where else "The contention of lawyers that the judge is obliged to do so indicates the blindness to which learning may bad mm. It matters not what the argu ment may be. when the conclusion reached involves an absurdity, t'< argument is obliged to be wrong To say that the courts are compelled to charter criminals for the commission nf crime is an absurdity that the people will resent, no matter what the lawyer.-. sa y. "The issuing of injunctions to pre vent the i it> o; any court, Interfering with criminals is contrary to law. This equitable w rit has no place in criminal matters-. "The excuse now given for this re invo veil Th ■ is anotiiei sttange -4 - “BE REASONABLE, MUTT, WE ARE ON THE GEORGIAN" Mutt and Jeff have come to The Georgian to stay permanently. Look for them in tomorrow’s paper and every day after that. Jeff will start out by giving his friend Mutt the worst of it. J —— ROCKEFELLER, JR„ AIDS NEW YORK GRAFT PROBE 11 —l J So ft WPIUw fSfl \ w wa jli Ft >1 If ..JUIZ JMMh E< I IfF * ** < \\ft / Ju///* \w>s3i ▼Zu \\z t’ ■ pj r \\ * d 1 \\t a \ John D. Rockcleller. Jr., and his youngest son. Mr. Rocke feller is in the limelight in New York just now. it having come out hi* has been working through the underworld of the metrop olis for many months securing evidence against the police graft ers, ami that he has thus rendered valuable service to District Attorney Whitman, who is now deep in the ferreting out of the workings of the “system," tollowing the slaying of Herman Rosenthal, the gambler who “squealed." Hons under which the Eederai courts have of late years invented new prece dents to justify them in hampering the efforts of the states to control the great railroads. "The judges have properly in •• ted the grand jury at all times that the sale of liquor by these clubs is unlaw ful. ahd that they cun not be made lawful by the empty mummery of the writings they make their customers sign. "The March grand jury had this sub. jeet up for free discussion, and ear nestly sought to find some remedy. A conference was held in April between the three judges, the solicitor general, a committee from the grand jury and a committee from the county commis sioners As a result of the meeting, measures were set on foot and inves tigations entered upon that were turned O'er to the next grand jury and in dictments were found against certain of the so-called illegitimate clubs. The social clubs which call themselves le gitimate. but which sell liquor on prac tically the same basis as the others, were not indicted. "The obvious discrimination pro duced some dissatisfaction, and the judges wa re criticised for having given advice to the grand jury, not in public, which, in effect told them not to indict the social clubs. But Social Clubs Were Not Included. I am te iably informed that the judges did not instruct the grand jury to make an exception in favor of the social clubs, and I accept the assurance that the) did not; but the assurance comes coupled with the authoritative statement that they did say in sub stanc. that the expense of getting evi dene, Was difficult to meet, the evi dence itself not easy to obtain, and that the jut) should begin with the i most aggtavuted eases first. "That Jury did not find the indict ments. but turned over the results of its' 'aaois to the next jury, that did indict one set and did not indict the Other. I t. k< it that the judges did not intend to lejiv, the impression that ti discrimination should be made that was made, but it is a most unfortunate fact that the conference occurred in the THE ATLANTA GEORGLYN AND NEWS. ERIDAY. AUGUST 9, 1912. Capital city club. "Being compelled, however much I shrink from it, by what I regard as a grave condition of lawlessness in this city, to refer'to these matters, and to sac that It Is not.| in my Judgment, a safe or a wholesome thing for the rich and powerful to go unpunished for an offense that less prominent men are in dicted for, and being told that these facts are being commented on unfavor ably to one of the judges now seeking re-election. I think it only fair to say that, so far as he is concerned, it was the first and only time he was ever in the Capital City club, or any other club of like sort, and that his adyersary is. or certainly has been, a full member of the tame organization for a long time." Police Don’t Believe Girls Are Debauched "Mr Alexander’s statement regarding the debauchery of young girls in the clubs of Atlanta is an exaggeration. 1 am satisfied," said Chief .1.1.. Beavers, of the Atlanta police force, today, dis cussing Hooper Alexander's platform announcement. "I have not heard of one such in stance as he cites. If he has evidence, it is his duty as a citizen to bting it to the department. It is, of course, true that young women go into clubs and drink, and some of them may be under age. In the majority of cases, how ever. they are taken there by their pa rents. • Where the department is able to do it. a close examination of clubs is made. There are five clubs in the city, however which are protected by in junction." WESTERN UNION MUST VACATE L. & N. BY DEC. 1 I.( H’ISVII.LE. KY„ Aug 4.—The Louisville and Nashville railroad has served notice on the Western Union Telegraph Company that its poles and wires must he removed from the L. & N. right of way by lOeeember 1 or be confiscated by the railroad. This fol lows the expiration of a 25-year con tract TAG SGI PUTS QUIETUS ON REVISION President Vetoes Wool Bill Sent to Him a Second Time by Congress, Continued From Page One. of tops and yarns which would result from the rate in the bill now submit ted to me would destroy the effect of the protection to raw wool and at the same time would be at the cost of widespread disaster to the wool comb ing and spinning branches of the indus try. Under the rates proposed, such plants could be continued, if at all, only ■ by writing off most of the investments at a net loss and by a reduction of wages. To sum up, then, most of the , rates in the submitted bill are so low In themselves that, if enacted into law, the inevitable result would be the Irre- I trievable injury to the wool growing i Industry, the enforced idleness of much of our wool combing and spinning ma ; chinery and of thousands of looms, and i the consequent throw ing out of ernploy -1 ment of thousands of workmen. “I can not act upon the assumption l that the controlling majority in either house will refuse to pass a bill of this kind, if in fact it accomplishes so sub stantial a reduction, merely because members of the opposing party and the executive unite in its approval. 1 there fore urge upon congress that it do not adjourn without taking advantage of the plain opportunity thus substantially to reduce unnecessary existing duties. I appeal to congress to reconsider the measure which 1 now return, without my approval, and to adopt a substitute therefor making substantial reductions below the rates of the present act, which the tariff board shows possible, without destroying any established in dustry or throwing any wage earners out of employment, and which I will promptly approve." MILLIONAIRES FREED; OVERSEERS TO FACE CHARGES OF PEONAGE I SAVANNAH. GA., Aug. 9.—After an examination before Walter H. Godwin. United States commissioner. which lasted into last night. Jonas Kilpat rick. general manager for E. T. Comer, millionaire planter at Millhaven, and R. Lee Chew, an overseer on the same place, were bound over under SI,OOO bond each for their appearance before a Federal grand jury to answer charges of peonage. Similar charges against L. I. t omer, owner of the plantation; his brother, J. W. Comer, and Mimgear Price, another overseer. were dis missed. The Comers were both pres ent. seated with their attorney, Judge Samuel B. Adams, of this city. Two negroes. Evans .Martin and George Smith, who ran away from the Cotner plantation, are alleged to have been at rested without a warrant at Hath, S. c . and returned, after which, it I- charged, they were held and ille gall.' made to work out the payment -f i a debt. There was evidence that the negroes were threatened with a whip ping. HIGHER EDUCATION IS INDORSED BY K. OF C. COUNCIL CONVENTION COLORADO SPRINGS. COLO., Aug. 9. —With the selection of Boston as the 1913 convention city and the transac tion of important business routine the .thirtieth annual convention of the Su preme Council of Knights of Columbus adjourned. 1 he council adopted a report com mending the establishment of a nation al home at Washington. It is under stood that ultimately a tuberculosis home may be established. Resolutions were passed favoring higher educa tion as embodied in the provisions governing the endowment fund for the Catholic University of America located i at Washington. ’ BOYS SWEPT 80 MILES OUT TO SEA IN ROWBOAT i ASBURY PARK. N. J , Aug 9. - I Swept to sea when their efforts to com bat a strong outward current failed, two Ocean Grove youngsters who had launched a rowboat from the beach there yesterday afternoon were carried SO miles down the coast and last night were picked up off Barnegat bay. The boys returned home this morning The youthful voyagers were Willie Bunting, eleven years old, son of As sistant Postmaster Herbert B. Bunting, of Ocean Grove, and George Barlow fifteen years old, son of Mr. and Mrs. W. H. Barlow. Yesterday was the Bunting boy s birthday and the row boat cruise was taken as a part of his celebratiork i Cant Find Reason for War Prices WHY IS LIVING COST HIGH? '* 'Wk. F xZW®* v a siipiyk \ «1 JiWliiOi 4 ' \ * Wilmer 1,. Moore, president of the Atlanta Chamber of Commerce, who, after an investigation of retail business, can not find the solution to the problem of the high cost of living. A W. L. Moore. Head of Com merce Chamber. Investigates Retail Stores in Atlanta. Wilmer L. Moore, president of the Chamber of Commerce, has been study ing the high cost of living in Atlanta. While Mr. Moore was frank to admit today to a Georgian reporter that the problem which has stumped the states men of the world has thus far stumped him in its local application, he declared that study had convinced him that die plan of department food stores sug gested by the food investigating com mittee in New York would not work here. "In Europe, especially in London, the people have what they call co-operative stores, through which they make most of their purchases at a smallci* cost than they would have to pay other dealers, but I do not think the plan would be practicable for Atlanta,” he said. "Since we first watched the cost of I living begin its steady climb upward years ago. there have been manj’ plans suggested to bring the prices to theit; former standard. Recently I have been looking into the question, but am not ready to suggest a plan. "Retail department store- buying di rect., receiving direct and selling direct to the people would not. I believe, prove a success in this city." Here is what your grocer in Atlanta makes: Dairy Products. Cost to Selling Per Cent Retailer. Price, of Profit. Butter, pound3l .35 .13 Cheese, poundlß 23 .28 Eggs, dozen2o .22 .10 Vegetables. W. potatoes, 1b... .022 03 30 W. onions, 1b023 033 40 Fresh beans, qt. .02 05 LSO Cabbage, head.... .04 .06 .50 Green corn. ear. .01 .015 50 Carrots, bunch.. 035 .05 '42 Tomatoes, qto7s 10 33 Celery, buncho7 .10 '42 Fruits. Peaches, qto6 .10 .66 Apples, poundo23 05 .43 Fla. oranges, doz. .251 .352 .40 Bananas, dozen . .085 .10 .23 ■ Lemons, dozen. 175 20 14 Meats. TendTn steak, lb. .11 .23 1.01 ! Round steak, lb .11 20 <49 Shoulder steak. Ib. .11 .15 .36 Pork chops, 1b... ,16 .20 .25 Ham. lbl6 25 .56 Fish. Halibut, lb 104 20 .92 Trout, lboß 15 87 Red snapper, lb.. .10 125 25 Bluefish, lblo .15 50 Pompano, lb 20 25 35 Perch, IbOS 125 33 Whitefish, 1b135 20 24 Staple Groceries. Sugar, lb. . 05 .055 .10 Flour, lbo3 04 33 Bread, lbo4 05 .25 Lice. Ibos 08 .60 Coffee, 1b25 20 .20 Tea. poundlß 15 90 Pried peas, lbos 08 .60 Rolled oats, lb. .. .033 043 j;3 I-ard. lbll 145 'SO Salt mackerel, Ib. .14 175 20 Canned Goods. Pork and beans.. 115 15 40 Teas, canl33 20 .47 Corn, cano77 .10 .35 Cnd sed milk, can .081 10 25 .Tomatoes, can. os >0 25 string beans, can 115 2" Salmon, canl 1 20 41 IMO Ji HIS ALLY CLASH DeKalb Prohibition Champion Loses Tilt With His Colleague Over a Minor Bill. The county of Wheeler, originally scheduled to be the county of Kent, was given its final and finishing touch in - the house today, when the house ac cepted the senate's amendment chang ing the name. I'he amendment was not adopted nor the bill passed without protest. Before the vote was taken, Mr. Cook, of Telfair, had the clerk read a per sonal statement in which he vehemently assailed Mr. Kent, the author of the bill, charging him with misrepresenting facts and figures in obtaining the pas sage of the same, ant! particularly pro testing against the politics involved. "I submit," said Akr. Cook, "that the legislature has been deceived in this matter, and that this county should not be created. "I further charge that the demon of politics his crept into the creation of this county; that there was vote trad ing. and for that reason I protest against the passage of this bill, and I want my protest spread upon the house journal. I court investigation and dis pute of what I say.” Bill Is Passed, Anyway. Notwithstanding Mr. Cook's attack on Mr. Kent and the bill, it was passed with only one dissenting vote—that of Mr. Cook. Representative Hooper Alexander made an unsuccessful effort on the floor of the house today to defeat a local bill Introduced by hls colleague from De- Kalb Mr. Field. This bill provides for the repeal of the town of Lakeview, and carries a provision for a referendum to the peo ple of the town before the repeal shall become operative. There is no love lost between the two representatives from DeKalb, as every, body In the house knows, and when Mr. Alexander arose to oppose his col leagues bill, there was a general cran ing of necks and a desire to see what would happen. Mr. Alexander made a vehement pro test against the passage of Mr. Field's bill, but after the speech of Mr Alex ander a vote was taken, and Mr. Field's bill was passed by a vote of 94 to 10. TO DEBATE AT HAZLEHURST BRUNSWICK. Aug. 9.—Elaborate pieparations have been made for the Walker-Parker congressional debate to be held at Hazlehurst in Appling coun ty tomorrow morning. Colonel Walker will open the debate and after speaking t.> minutes will be followed by .Judge Parker, who will have the stand an hour. ’BILL FOB VIADUCT ONGENTRALAND PRVDRVETOED Governor Sees Injury to State's Property—Urges Considera tion of Plaza Scheme. The governor today vetoed the bill providing for the construction of the Pryor street and Central via ducts in Atlanta, and at the same time pointed out benefits to be gained by the erection of the proposed overhead plaza, a project involving many mil lions of dollats. The governor objects to the bill be cause he thinks it was hastily drawn and likely would inflict serious am' irreparable injury td the state's prop erty rights in the Western and Atlantic railroad. The governo: enters exhaustively into the latter phase of the. matter, and de clares that the proposed 'viaducts should be considered in their connec tion with other property to be affected by them, and adds significantly that Atlanta "should grow with the state, and not at the expense of the state.” The executive veto reads in part as follows: Bill Too Hastily Drawn. This bill seems to have been too hastily drawn to allow such con sideration as would demonstrate whether its passage would or would not seriously damage the state's property known as the Western and Atlantic railroad. If it become a law it will practically close against convenient use two streets above named In so far as concerns the access to and egress from the Union passenger station, which is the terminal station for passengers riding over said road. It is of utmost importance that the state preserve, to as great an extent as lies in her power, the fa cilities whereby the said railroad receives and handles business, and the enactment Into a law of hill number 58 will damage the said road many thousands of dollars each month and will seriously im pair the rental value of said road when the present lease expires, and it is advertised for a new lease. It is also proper to state that if I this become a law will seriously af fect the income of the present les sees of said railroad, and the state should be careful that she does no injustice to those to whom she leases any of her property. The Western and Atlantic railroad is , the state's greatest asset, so far . as her ownership of property is concerned, but Georgia's greatest asset is her good faith. This she should neither destroy nor compro mise. Urges Plaza Scheme. I will add that for some time there has been in contemplation the erection of what is commonly called an overhead plaza, reaching from the eastern side of the For syth street bridge to the west? n side of the Washington street via duct. including a terminal building for the railroads on the site of the present Union station. If this be done it will very greatly enhance ' the values of all properties contig uous to said plaza and will secure for the state a permanent build ing. which will diaw great busi ness for het railroad, practically in perpetuity. Instead, therefore, of authorizing the building of these bridges, which would be but in the nature of piece-meal Improvements, it would be far better that the Improvement in the center of the city, which so vitally affects t-he earning value of the state's property, should be con sidered and acted upon In its en tirety. It Is. of course, to the interest of Atlanta, as it is of other com munities. that grade crossings should be eliminated to as great an extent as comports with the gen eral interest of the people of the state. Rut. like all other communi ties, Atlanta should grow with the state, not at the expense of the state. Not Much Chance For Passage. It is of supreme importance that the state protect for all the tax payers the proper earning power of the Western and Atlantic railroad hence, as the building of the pro posed bridges at each end of the Union station, under the present , conditions, would disastrously af ' feet it. I am compelled to withhold my approval of house bill num ber 58. Speaking of the veto after it came in today. Representative Brown «.» Fulton, said: "I do not think it likely that the bill can be passed, or that a serious effort will be made to pass It. over the gov ernor's veto. "He sends in a message of disap proval that deserves serious considc a tion and I. for one. do not think that Atlanta wants anything to which it is not entitled.”