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Vanderbilt Suffers by Loss
Os Three Star Gridiron Men
Nashville, tenn., Aug 17.
Although the baseball sea
son is not yet over, interest
here is already turning to football
and there is much speculation as
to whethe: the Commodores will be
as strong this season as they were
In 1912, when they won the undis
puted championship of the South
Conch McGugin faces > severe
handicap this year because of the
fact three of the greatest gridiron
warriors in ths history of the South
have departed, having played their
font years in the S. I. A A.
They are Ray Morrison, 1912
captain and all-American choice of
Ted Coy; Frog Metzger, all-South
ern guard, and Ewing Freeland,
who is conceded to be one of the
greatest linemen this team ever
produced
Morrison recently married at Mc-
Kenzie and is teaching and coach
ing the football team of Branham
and Hughes school, Springhill,
Tenn ; Metzger will coach either in
Louisiana or Ohio, having had of
fers from universities in both
states, and Freeland will also fol
low the occupation of coaching this
fall
Morrison May Not Return.
It will be impossible to ade
quately fin the shoes of these men
In one sea-on, notwithstanding the
fact that there are several good
men coming to Vanderbilt from
neighboring prep schools. It is also
a possibility that Kent Morrison,
right end of the team last season,
and Charles Brown, one of last
season's linemen, will not return.
Should these not come, McGugin
will he forced to practically remodel
his machine.
Haidage, Collins and Sikes the
three hackfield men of last year, aie
certain to return. The three most
promising candidates for Morri
son's position at quarter are Zach
< urlln. whose drop kicking was the
sensation of Southern football last
year and who scored on Michigan
FODDER FOR FANS
A,mour - *' f thp Cardinals. Lou .’astro has signed "Horseshoe"
feVrii .?vl g . , r 81x ’. r ,, *" a "’ s - bas " Jpss Reynolds to pitch for his Port a-
South ' ,iasers »" are front the mouth team. Jess was formerly an ttm
arl h wmt\ed\ro*n The V ubs gained six games In their
lins from Greenwood Galloway of Vicks- recen ' '•- as >*' r '> tr 'l>
Iturg. Perritt of Greenwood, and Rodding • • •
of Columbus. Miss Ping Hody and Manager Callahan had
• • • a verbal run-in the other day. and "Cal"
Hill Xrmotir likes Georgia so well as sent •’■>>£ home and told him to go to
a training camp that he has advised bp '' >’ ln K " f course quit the team on
Bresnahan to pick out a place In tleor ,I,p s l’ ot - hut rejoined It again the fol
gia for spring training lowing day. about game time
• « • • • •
The Reign of the Bookies has begun ln a re< ‘ ent double header at Savannah,
the New York \tnericans The Sain Mayer. ex-Cracker. made a single,
regular players don't rut an\ more tig- a »n<i a homer In the first game
tire with Wolverton's team than they do an<i started a triple play in the second,
in earl' spring Harr.' s working to- ■ • • •
vat • '■ wt\ • The s.iiix league record for long games
• ; is said to be held bx the Columbia anti
Ai Hrtdwpll seems absolutely recovered Charleston clubs, which, on April 22.
from the injur.x that k< pt him out of 1 1905, went nineteen innings to a score
the game so long, and is play Ing cop- 1 less tie
per-riveted ball for the Braves ...
• • ♦ There’s a shortstop named Pa übert
Bill I tahlen s failure w ith the Bronk- ; i'hixmg in the Ohio State league who
lyn team max be traced to a ton-deep a cousin of Ja-fce I'aubert. of the
interest in the ponies. McGraw suf- Superbas The Ohio man will get a trial
sered fr m that disease once iiimself. but i* n fast company somewhere next spring
recovered ...
• • • Stahl says he's not afraid of the Atb-
Ciark Griffith s great club is made up ietics, and that his team is going ahead
large. f -a-’-offs Tacoma fired ",th preparations for the world series
Walter Johnson Tom H :g. ♦ head O that there's nothing like a stiff upper
has been on the block more than once ’ip
Gandil ras worn the tinware for the ...
V hit« Sox fired him Ray Morgan was lake Paubert say s with loud emphasis
tried by Baltimore and sent I.■ t ’he hat he is not fishing for Hill Dahlen’s
irginia league ’ Eddi» 1- • >»oer u - *r <1 1 > and states that he has not seen
by tht ranks uid sent I i ■ ■ ... ’harlej Ebbeta except casually on the
ern George Me Brich ir field since the season started Jake will
gree as far ba< kas If“M. a* J v is>t od probably manage the Superbas next
for it twice since ban M iller was year, despite his remarks.
canned at least once, and th* demon ...
coaching team. Schaefer and Aitm< k. They sax the reason Jud Palex didn’t
has had the iron ball pinned -n several last in the big show was that the lights
were so bright up there they dazzled his
• • • hatting eye
The most popular music wit; the • * -
Giants now Is that famous ballad. No | The reason Vicksburg gave for drop,
f bh'" F * W B ° H,Kh H ”‘ dn ' : ;nc "’ p ''"”on States league was
to L,ignt * that they couldn't make receipts of $25
’ * * a <lax meet expenses of SIOO a day
Says Sid Mercer. "Murray is as tern- I which is reason enough, surely
per,*’ ...
never tell whether he is going to travel <’x Young hAs "struck oil ' on his
a mile a minute or stand still " Paoli farm and will soon be selfing the
• • • t Iff t John n
A fan in Pittsburg named Robert \ • • •
bas brought suit against the pj. \V» . n Maxw.ll let Newark down with
for >25 000 lb- •-a m- he wio it w<» the other .1 ’ International
crowd ■•!.»* a'tend* I the piratt-,-Giant » • twirlers the organization ever
game that day 1 saw
via this route; Hord Boensch, quar
ter of the scrubs last year, and
Robins, sub-quarter for two sea
sons. Curlin seems the logical man,
being fast and a good punter In
addition to a drop kicker. He Is
also a sure tackler and very effect
ive in advancing the ball. He has
yet to miss a field goal in a regula
tion game.
Among the promising men who
will come to Vanderbilt from prep
schools are McWilliams, backfield,
from Branham A- Hughes; Cleve
land Shipp, lineman, Mooney
school, Herman Paves. Morgan
school, lineman; .lore Porter, line
man. Castle Heights, and Josh
Cody, lineman. Bethel college. Mc-
Williams is considered one of the
fastest and most promising back
field men in the South and will be
given every opportunity to make
good. He may be used in the back
field, or. if K. Morrison does not
return, may be used at end.
Shipp a Good Lineman.
Cleveland Shipp, a 2WI-pounder,
who has played four years on the
Mooney school team, Harriman,
Tenn., Is a wonderful young line
man and is expected to be one of
the mainstays of the line at Van
derbilt this yetir. He is no kin to
the famous "Skinney” Shipp, of
Sewanee, although coming from the
same prep school,
Morton Adams, star halfback of
the Commodores in 1909. will re
turn next year, studying law, and
will play football again. He is a
heavy man and especially good at
line plunging This is making him
a favorite in the eyes of Pan Mc-
Gugin. since it seems that the old
plunging game will b<A the main
thing this v<;i|- Adams is also an
aggressing defensive man.
Os the old linemen. Buddy Mor
gan. Joe Covington. Tom Brown,
of the regulars, will be back, and
there are several good subs of last
year who showed promise of de
veloping into stars this season.
THE ATLANTA GEORGIAN AND NEWS. SATURDAY, AUGUST 17, 1912.
Smith Has His Work Cut Out in Rebuilding a Cracker Team for 1915
NEEDS A SLATHER OF MEN; GRIFFITH MAY HELP
By Percy 11. Whiting.
Ur HEN Bill Smith takes over
' the Atlanta ball club he’ll
be a happy man. But he’ll
have his work cut out for him.
Never in his history, unless possi
bly w hen he grabbed the reins and
the discords and the discourage
ments at Buffalo, has he faced a
problem like the one he must solve
if he is to put the fair city of At
lanta, Georgia, back on the base
ball map in letters large enough to
be read by the naked eye.
After a team has been a tail
ender for two years it is in bad.
And that goes for Atlanta. The
line-up is just peppered with cork
ing good players, but they are all
to pieces and look like Class P per
formers.
* * •
I T I >W many men on the present
squad will Bill Smith be able
to cqunt on for next season? It
begins to look as though It would
be very few. Os all the new men
recently tried out it appears that
only “Dug" Harbison and Catcher
Reynolds are going to be worth a
hang
And Harbison is so blamed good
that some big league team will
probably grab him by draft—bad
cess to 'em.
hether Harbison goes or stays,
there will be as many gaps on the
team as there are in a boarding
house comb.
• * *
1 ET’S figure the team from Bill
Smith’s viewpoint, for we atl
know Bill, know the kind of bill
players he likes and the kind he
will not have.
It’s an even money bet that
Smith will pick up about one more
catcher for a try-out. Bill is a
glutton sot good catchers. Good
backstopping staffs helped to win
him two pennants in Atlanta and
he doesn't object to them at all.
H's a (inch bet right now that if
Bill Smith could get Sid Smith for
$2,500 he would snap him up in a
minute. And it would be a good
investment at that. But Sid will
hardly be on the market next year.
Bill will be well suited with Pat
Graham and Reynolds. But it Is a
tine bet that he will get another
man.
• • ♦
out for some real pitchers
on the Atlanta team next sea
son. Rill is soft on good catchers,
but he’s positively mushy on Rood
DICK GILBERT UNEARTHS
A MONSTER WHITE HOPE
I _
NEW loRK, Aug. 17 Denver has a
"white hope" who is more massive,
magnificent and stupendous than our
. Woolworth building or Pennsylvania
station. The Colorado conqueror Is
yclept Oscar Withers and ate his first
s meal in Mlddlesboro. Kx
1 Oscar is old enough to vote next No
vember. towers 6 feet lit inches in his
gaiters ami displaces 260 pounds ot
l lead shot. He has a reach of 86 1-2
> inches and is severely handicapped in
’ every boarding house In xx hich he lives.
Dick Gilbert, a Denver middleweight,
who has been fighting In the South, is
handling Oscar, and Dick says that his
I man has Jim Corbett and J»**v O'Brien
and Adeline Genee all b at for being
' fast and clever and quick and light on
his feet. Os course, he has the stock
18.2-inch balk line xvallop in eithet
' hand and can also "assimilate punlsh-
J ment" and play a phonograph.
> Oscar is so big that even his pic-
I ture can't be reduced small enough to
j<et in the paper Gilbert threatens
to bring him to New York next month.
; JONES MEETS CANNON
FOR MISSOURI TITLE
( KANSAS CITY. Mo Aug 17—H V.
' Jones, of Kansas City, defeated Heath
Moore, Kansas City, tn the semi-finals
of the Missouri Valley championship
i tennis tournament. Jones will meet
■ Jack Cannon, of Kansas City, in the
finais today
In doubles Jones and John T Bullex
i of Albion t'kla defeated Proctor Mas
, t< r- and H W Dural!. of Kansas City
The winners will meet Moore and Can
non today in the finals.
EDITW 4>v W S FARNSWORTH
pitchers. Look at those he had in
Atlanta—Russell Ford, Roy Castle
ton, Bob Spade, Rube Zeller and
the rest.
It Is questionable if Bill and
Vedder Sitton would hook up with
smooth results.- And still they
might. Sitton is sure to be held
over for a trial. Brady will be
kept, of course, and should be a
better pitcher next year than he
has been this year. Bill Smith is
just the sort of a man to keep
Brady in line and make him pitch
ball The methods of Atlanta's
next manager are peculiar, but no
body' will deny that they are highly
successful.
Johnson will doubtless go back
to Hopkinsville or some other place
pretty soon unless he shows some
thing. This chap is a clever look
ing pitcher, but he doesn’t get re
sults. At that, they' may decide to
hold him over for a trial next year.
Waldorf will be held If the Cubs
don't recall him. This big German
is just the sort of pitching mate
rial that Smith likes to work with.
Give Bill a man with plenty of size
and a sweeping ciuve and he will
make a pitcher out ot him. Bill
doesn’t mind a little wildness. If
he takes over Waldorf next spring
he will make a pitcher of him.
Becker needn't be counted, for he
is going back to Washington.
Os course. Smith will round up
some new pitchers. He is a good
one at digging them out of the
brush. He yanked Russ Ford, Bob
Spade, Tom Hughes and a lot of
other good ones out of the brush
and he alxvays has his eyes peeled.
♦ ♦ ♦
| F Bill Smith can get Otto Jordan
back, as seems certain, he will
get an infield, all right. He will
put Alperman at third or short.
What he will do with third and
first remains to be seen. If Harbi
son escapes the draft he. of course,
will have a place. But he is pretty
likely to be grabbed.
"Humpty" McElveen is a prob
lem. Last year he batted .276. This
year he hovers around the .230
mark Ho Is a fair fielder, but not
fast There was talk of sending
him to the outfield. There might
be a possibility of playing him at
first base. He will hardly do at
third.
About what will happen is:
Smith will try out McElveen at
various positions next spring. If
"Humpty" begins hitting he xvill
I he Big Race
Here's how the "Big Five” of the
American league are hitting the ball,
the averages including yesterday's
games:
PLAYER. A.B. H. P.C.
COBB 415 173 417
SPEAKER 439 173 .394
JACKSON 419 159 .379
COLLINS 395 134 .339
LA JOIE 282 88 .312
Cobb gained two points yesterday by
securing two hits in three times up.
And, all the better for the “Georgia
Peach,” both Speaker and Jackson fell
off two notches. Both were up twice
and failed to connect. Collins Kept up
his timely clouting by banging forth
two hits in four trips to the plate. La
joio did likewise.
WELSH MAKES PUNCHING
BAG OUT OF PHIL KNIGHT
WINNIPEG. MAN., Aug 17.—Fred
die Welsh showed cnamphmship class
in his txx elve-round battle here with
Phil Knight and won handily. He hit
when he willed and had no trouble to
knock his rival off his feet Knight
got in only one solid bloxx.
EDDIE O'KEEFE IS SIGNED
TO MINGLE WITH KILBANE
CLEVELAND, OHIO, Aug 17
Johnny Kilbane, featherweight cham
pion xnd Eddie O’Keefe were signed
todax for a ten-round go at Madtaon
Square Garden, Nexx York, on Septem
ber 19 O'Keefe is to make 122 pound*
find a place for him. If he doesn’t,
he will find a place also —but not
on the Atlanta team.
• • •
J T appears that Smith will have to
develop an entirely new out
field next spring. Bailey will be
recalled. Callahan has been un
able to hit this year. Unless he
gets going next year he will be let
out early in the season. Lyons
hasn't shown even a faint flash of
Class A hitting ability and will
doubtless go unless he can spring
something impressive in the way
of base hits next spring.
• • •
JUST as a rough guess, Bill Smith
will have one more catcher,
five to eight new pitchers, three to
five recruit infielders and four to
seven new outfielders report next
spring. He will need to try out
that number if he is going to plug
the holes in the present Cracker
club
• • •
lUHERE win Smith get his play
ers? Take this as a tip: He
will get a batch of them from the
Washington club. Clark Griffith,
manager of the Senators, Is one of
Bill Smith's closest fr'ends in base
ball.
Even before Smith was secured
as manager, Clark Griffith decided
he wanted to train next spring in
Atlanta. The deal hasn’t been
closed yet, but it probably will be.
If it is, Griffith will surely leave
one man here for "ground rent,”
and probably more.
Os course, the new waiver rules
make it peculiarly difficult to waive
a man out of the big leagues and to
get them to the Southern, but
Washington will doubtless have
some men xvho xvill be good enough
for Atlanta and yet poor enough to
be waived this far.
Smith will certainly draft a lot
of men. He has alxvays had a lot
of good information about desir
able talent and he can always be
counted on to pick up a few good
performers from the bush.
• • •
QNE thing about Smith—he will
never again fall into the error
of getting a team of old-timers. He
tangled up with one his first year
in Chattanooga and that satisfied
him. He xvill alxvays have a few
old heads for the purpose of steady
ing and teaching the youngsters.
But he will never run one of these
Old Soldiers homes, such as Hemp
hill conducted here this season.
BIG PARADE IN HONOR
OF OLYMPIC ATHLETES
NEW YORK, Aug. 17.—One of the
features of the parade in honor of the
American Olympic team here on Au
gust 24 will be a guard of honor made
up of former champions and heroes of
the cinder path and field.
Harry E. Buermeyer, founder of the
New York Athletic club, will marshal
the veterans' brigade, and among those
xvho will be seen in the front rank
are Harry Fredericks, one of the ear
liest American invaders of England's
athletic fields; "Cinders" Murray, who
showed the foreigners how to walk in
the earlx eighties W. E. Purdy. Mur
ray's rival in heel and toe walk: Tom
my Burke and other members of the
Boston Athletic association team that
won the first Olympic honors for Amer
ica At Athens in 1896, and Martin Sher
idan. winner at three Olympic meets.
SCHWARTZ BEATS TIERNEY
AND MORGAN STOPS WALSH
NASHVILLE, TENN Aug 17. -
Young Schwartz" easily outpointed
Billy Tierney, of Louisville, before the
Fourth Avenue club in an eight-round
bout Eddie Walsh, of Chicago, was
knocked out by Jack Morgan, of Nash
ville, In the second round.
JACK DENNY KNOCKED
OUT BYJACK McCARRON
PHILADELPHIA, Aug 17.—Jack
McCarron, of Allentown. Pa., knocked
out Jack Denning, a New York welter
weight. tn the second round at the
Olympic Athletic club last night.
Series Between Major League
Runners-Up Sure Listens Good
By Monty.
NEW YORK, Aug. 17.—Frank
Chance is brave and bold. The
other day the Peerless Lead
er told us that his Chicago Cubs
xvould beat out the Giants for the
National league pennant, beyond
the shadow of a doubt, and also
that he was equally' certain the
Washington Senators would over
haul the Boston Red Sox for the
American league banner, likewise
that the Cubs would lick the Sena
tors. We are glad he made the re
mark. not that we share his cer
tainty' in the matter, but because
it gave us an idea.
A second world’s series between
the runners-up in the two leagues
—that Is the idea.
In event that the present order
in the two leagues remains un
changed at the end of the season
and the Giants and Red Sox come
to grips for the banner of suprem
acy, wouldn't it make a good little
sideshow if the Chance selections
—Senators and Cubs—could meet
in a series of like nature? And
wouldn’t it be a good stunt to es
tablish the runner-up series for
every year, under conduct of the
National Commission'.’ And there
are those who would carry' the idea
even farther and have the clubs all
along the line meet, clear down to
the tall-enders, who xvould be
scrapping for the cellar champion
ship of the world. Even a cellar
championship might draw big
crowds, because of the fact that the
contenders never before would
have met.
Tigers and Cubs Last Year.
But the main slice of this inspi
ration is that concerning the run
ners-up series. In the past some
good battles would have been pro
vided by such an event. Last year
it would have brought together the
Detroit Tigers and the Cubs, and
the year before, when the Gubs
xvon the National title, it would
have been the Giants versus the
Tigers. In 1909 it xvould have been
Cubs again for the National and
the Athletics from the American.
Pittsburg and the Tigers- tvinning •
the flags that year. Any one of
these scraps xvould have been in
teresting.
[news from ringside! 1
*“■
Al Wambsgans. the New Orleans light
weight who won the national A. A V
title at Boston last May, will leave the
Crescent City for New York sHortlv.
where he plans to make his debut as a
professional. The amateur champion was
offered a match with Rav Temple bv a
New Orleans club, but declined the bout
as he wants to start at the bottom bv
meeting some of the third raters and
building up.
• • •
Johnny Dundee's heart will pine no
more. The little fighter has been match
ed with Champion Johnny Kilbane for
a ten-round fight in New York Septem
ber 4 Kilbane will receive $3,500 for his
services.
• • •
if Joe Mandot is defeated by Joe Rivers
on the coast Labor day it will not be
.because he did not have proper trainers.
Hobo Dougherty. Ad W.Jgast's famous
sparring partner. Abdul the Turk and
Harry Thomas, the classv little English
scrapper, have been added to the South
ern champ’s training camp
• • •
Tom Jones. Ad Wolgast’s manager, has
picked Mandot to defeat Rivers
• * •
Johnny Coulon. bantamweight, has gone
to his farm in High Lake, Wis . for a
six weeks vacation The little scrapper
will live In the open, hunting and fishing
for several weeks before he returns to
the East to defend his title On his re
turn he will go to Kenosha. Wis and
meet Frankie Hurns He will then jump
over to New York and meet Charlev Le
doux. the French champion
Philadelphia Jack tt’Brten was arrested
In Philadelphia a few days ago on two
warrants charging him with assault and
battery and larceny Billy Payne, sev
eral years ago a lightweight boxer, is
the complainant
• • «
Johnny Kilbane will be seen xvorking
the road? near Cleveland next Monday
The little champion has accepted an ad
tnirer'R dare that he could tu t stand the
w ork and hired out Johnnj u ill re
ceive $2 for hie day s labor
There are several possible objec
tions that might be raised to such
a suggestion, chief among them
the fact that the runners-up series
might detract from interest in the
world’s series proper. But this we
do not believe xvould be the ease.
Because of its affording opportuni
ty foi additional comparisons,
which always are the delight of
the fans, the nexv series should en
hance interest in the old and es
tablished one for the big croxvn.
Everybody who could go to the
world’s series otherwise would go
anyway, in spite of the runners-up
series.
One more apparent objection to
the founding of such a series as a
regular thing might be that in some
years a city possessing one pen
nant winner might have the run
ners-up in the rival league-, and
accordingly' the games might con
flict. This objection could be
wiped out merely by arranging the
schedules of the two series in the
same way as the annual league
schedules are framed. While one
team is playing in the city, let
the other be playing away from it.
Keep them alternating in that par
ticular town and th«-re would be no
conflict.
Commission Could Run Series.
Another possible objection is that
the National Commission could not
handle two series and attend both
properly. It could. Prominent men
of baseball could tie employed di
rectly by the commission to su
pervise the series, and they could
work directly under its authority.
There are plenty of com, etent ones,
and the thing could go through
just as well as under the present
regime of only one series.
From the standpoints of both
fans and the powers that be. the
project should be a good one. The
moguls xvould harvest more money*,
and the fans would be provided
with something of additional inti r
est to them. Since the fans are in
disputably the ones who keep the
game alive by spending their dol
lars during the season,, their side
of it is entitled to consideration by
the commission. If the commis
sion could be shown that the fans
want such a series, they Ought to
arrange one, and probablv would
I
Manager Tortorich, of the Orleans A A
< . N< v Orleans, is looking for sonic goo<i *
lightweight to box Harrv Thomas at the
weekly show Monday night. The club
' ,|anncd ~1 ,1 give that late to Jack
yxhite with Thomas as his opponent, but
the defeat of the Chicago boxer by
r rankle Russell has caused the manage
ment. to decide this would not be a
drawing card.
Johnny Kilbane has expressed his wil
lingness to box Abe At tell a return bout
Labor <la.\, provided the promoters make
him a .-atisfactnr.y offer. The champion /
will start training Monday "to be ready
for any emergency," as he terms it.
JOHNSON AND NILES
WIN IN FINAL ROUND ,
SOUTHAMPTON. L L. Aug. 17.—N.
W. Niles, of Boston, and N \V John
son. of Philadelphia, won their plays in
the final round of the Meadow club cup
singles here .yesterday, Johnson de
feat* d R I. Williams. Niles beat E. P /
Larned, youngi r brother of the national
champion.
In the semi-finals of the doubles W.
J I lothier and G. P Gardner beat <t.
Biddle and R. N. Williai ts M E. Mc-
Loughlin and T. C. Bundy in the third
round beat Niles and Dabney, former
Harvard stars, ami in the semi-final
the* heat Johns-m and C. F Wptson. Jr.
WALTER JOHNSON WINS
FOURTEENTH STRAIGHT
M ASHINGTON. Aug 17. Walter
Johnson bold Chicago to one scratch
hit \<• t< amj v -hine'on wnea - A f>
Fohnsot
n ague record held bj i.'hesbro while
pitching fur N« - v o -u ,
