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VOL. XI.
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FORCHIEFIN
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Alderman-Contractor Charged
With Maintaining Nuisance
by Sanitarium.
SAYS HE’LL FIGHT EDICT i
OF POLICE IN COURTS
I
Ordered to Take Monster
Shovel Away to Help Patients.
Declares He’ll Stand Firm.
>
Alderman J. W. Maddox, of the Fifth
ward. ordered by the police department
of Atlanta to ceaag work with a steam
shove! at Forsyth and Utickie streets,
today figuratively told the police de
partment to mind its own business.
At the same time the aiderman de
clared that before he would obey the
mandate of the chief of police he would
carry the fight through every court in
Georgia.
The clash between city law maker
and city law enforcer came when the
owners of the Elkin-Goldsmith sanita
rium complained that their patients
were being greatly disturbed by the
noise of a steam shovel being used on
grading work at Forsyth and Luckie
streets, where the Hirsch-Spitz building
is being erected.
Hospital Charges
Shovel Is Nuisance.
Aiderman Maddox is the contractor
who has charge of this work. The hos- i
pil.il pimple charged that the shovel had !
already been on the place an unneces- I
sarily long time, and was not only hav
ing an injurious effect on their pa
tients. but was also hurting their busi
ness.
Three days ago Chief Beavers sent
word to the aiderman that the shovel
would have to be removed by 4 o'clock
yesterday afternoon. At that hour the
shovel was shoveling away as busily as I
ever.
charges of failing to obey orders to
abate a nuisance were filed against the
alderman-contractor. The contractor
was served with copies of the charges, (
but he didn't stop work. .
Maddox Announces
He’ll Fight Mandate.
The hospital authorities today report
ed to Chief Beavers that the shovel I
had not only not been removed, but was ;
working under full steam.
The aiderman announced when he j
was warned to stop that he would con- [
tinue work while there is a court in i
Georgia to which be can appeal.
The first step in what threatens to
be a bitter legal controversy will be
taken this afternoon when Maddox is
arraigned in recorder’s court. Should
he be fined, it is his intention to appeal
to the state courts, and incidentally it
Is his intention to continue work.
KNOX OFF FOR JAPAN TO ;
ATTEND RULER’S FUNERAL
SEATTLE. WASH.. Aug. 23. -Secretary
Knox, who was designated to represent
President Taft at the mikado's funeral in
Tokio, accompanied by his party, sailed
for Yokohama early today on the cruiser
Maryland. Knox refused to comment
upon the Penrose-Roosevelt controversy.
GIVES 40 INCHES OF SKIN
TO SAVE HIS SON'S LEG
NEW YORK, Aug. 23. David P. Con
don. a member of the New York fire de
partment. has given 40 inches of his skin
to save his son's leg
AUTHORESS DIES IN RAGS
TO LEAVE jJATS WEALTH
ST LOVIS. Aug 23.—Dr. Sarah F.
Wells, graduate of Oberlin, founder of
medical colleges and author, has died in
rags here in order that her fifteen cats
might enjoy the benefit of her wealth.
JAILED FOR THEFT FROM
MAN HE ONCE CHEATED
NEW YORK, Aug 23 Harry Hastings
has been sent to the penitentiary for one
icnr for stealing *l3 from George Arannw 1
When the latter was a newsboy fifteen
rears ago Hastings cheated him out of 50
cents
NEGRESS TRIED AS WITCH
IN PENNSYLVANIA TOWN
U t-tIUNGT'iN P' Aug "3 Eliza
j.rih Plat’, a neg c«s was put on trial
< liaised bj her ntlgllboi won being
* w its b.
NO. 17.
Away With Disease, I
Dust and Microbes j
It is thought beautiful that j
a man should invest thousands
in a home and have a little ,
butcher's shop stuck up next
door. Every man in Atlanta ■
has a right to do exactly as he
pleases, and that is considered !
beautiful; but it is not. for I
while a man stands in his own
' light he also stands in hTs
neighbor's light, and both lose
out. In a matter of dirt, for
instance, all cities should re
quire that every householder ,
wash his front premises every
morning to the middle of the
street. Awav with dust, mi
crobes. disease, and all these
ills for which we are taxed to i
i build and operate hospitals.—
MRS. W. L. PEEL.
For Mrs. Peel’s story see page three.
OWNERS REFUSE TO
SACRIFICE TREES FOR
PEACHTREE WIDENING
Peachtree street propeity owners be
yond North avenue are unwilling to
sacrifice their bciuttful shade trees
for a wider street. It was decided at a
meeting in the city hall yesterday aft
ernoon to abandon the project of wid
ening the street its entire length, but
to make Peachtree an 80-foof street be
tween Ellis street and North avenue.
Practically all the property' on
Peachtree street between Ellis street
and North avenue has been consigned
co business development. The work of
widening already is in process be
tween Harris and Ivy streets. The
change in plan makes unnecessary the
payment of $5,000 to Albert Howell,
provided by council, for damages to his
property at the corner of Peachtree
street and Ponce DeLeon avenue.
A committee has been appointed to
obtain waivers from damages by the
widening from all property owneis be
tween Ellis street and North avenue.
NAMES OF MEN LONG
DEAD STILL ON MONON
RAILWAY’S PAY ROLL
i NEW ALBANY. IND.. Aug 23. That
| dead men have been on the payroll of I
| the Monon railroad and that wages have J
been paid in their names for years was j
revealed by the trip of the first pay car I
that has been used on the road in years, <
payment heretofore having been by •
check.
President Fairfax Harrison made the j
trip with the car. At Lafayette every I
employee of the road had to go to the j
car in person and draw his pay. The }
“dead man’’ list for the month was over '
! S2OO. It was found that three men whose I
’ wages have been paid regularly have
been dead for years.
A shake-up is predicted.
MISS BOARDMAN TO
RAISE FUND FOR TAFT
IN FACE OF THREATS
BOSTON, Aug. 23.- Miss Mabel T. j
i Boardman. president of the Red Cross, I
' who is spending the summer on the north
i shore, declared today that she will con-
I tinue her endless chain letter plan to raise
I funds for the Taft campaign, despite the
j threat of the Women's Homestead asso
ciation of Boston to have her prosecuted
on the ground that (he plan will be a
violation of the postal laws.
She insists Postmaster General Hitch
cock has assured her the plan can not be
interfered with by his department.
600 ENGLISH HENS IN
AN EGG-LAYING CONTEST
I
LONDON, Aug. 23.—Commencing
October 15, 600 hens will start out to
beat all records in the way of egg
laying during the twelve months fol
lowing.
The contest, which has been organ
ized by the Utility Poultry club, will
be at Newport. Shropshire, England,
■jmi valuable prizes and medals are of
fered.
Points will be given for numbers and
weight of eggs, and hens are warned
that anything under 1 1-2 ounces will
not be counted.
MILLIONAIRE. 54. WEDS
THIRD WIFE. WHO IS 22
LOS ANGELES, t'.AL,. Aug. 23
Louis A. Bryan, 54, a millionaire of
Gary, Ind., from whom his second wife
got a divorce on the ground of being
only bis "beautiful doll.' 1 is passing his
third honeymoon with Winfred H. Mar
iner, 22 years old. whom he married at
I the home of a friend.
His second wife testified in hei di
vorce suit that he made her go shop
ping and marketing decked in dia
monds. The second wife obtained $25.-
000 alimony and is said to possess a
| fortune in the jewels he gave to her.
STOPS A FUNERAL TO
MAKE DEATH INQUIRY
| SAVANNAH, M<>.. Xus 23. t'oron. i
[Kelley stopped the funeral of Col. E
IC. Trumbo long enough to secure the
viscera from the horii t'ol Trumbo
wa» married In November last to
Agnes McGuire He was l.’< year', old
* and wo:th |3o,uuo, and his widow u ii.
The Atlanta Georgian
Read For Profit—GEORGIAN WANT ADS—Use For Results
OUTCOME OF'
JUDGESHIP
BICE STILL
IN DOUBT
Pottle Leads by Narrow Margin
in Popular Vote. With Re
turns Incomplete.
I
CONVENTION TO NAME
THE SOIL COMMISSIONER
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Latest Reports Show Slaton
Carried 137 Counties. Hall
Eight and Alexander One.
John M. Slaton carried 137 counties
in the gubernatorial primary of Wed
nesday, Joe Hill Hall carried eight and
Hooper Alexander carried one.
A change of 40 votes would have lost
to Mr. Alexander his one.
The popular vote, with all but a few
militia districts accounted for. gives
Slaton 98.870, Alexander 36,301 and Hall
23.308.' Total, 158,479.
Hall runs ahead of Alexander in
counties and convention votes, but
Alexander runs second in populai vote.
Hall carried Bibb. Dougherty, Dooly.
Baker. Houston, Crawford, Jones and
Macon counties, with 20 convention
votes.
Alexander carried Ware, with two
convention votes.
Appeals Court Race
Still in Doubt.
Slaton carried the remainder of the
state, with 346 convention votes.
The court of appeals race still is very
■ much in doubt.
i The commissioner of agriculture race
will go into the convention for solution.
I as no one of the three candidates will
j have a majority.
Official returns, discarding all esti-
I mates and conjectures, however relia
l ble they may seem. line up Pottle and
■ Broyles at 10 o'clock this morning as
I follows:
j Broyles has carried 53 counties, with
a convention vote of 141; Pottle has
carried 65 counties, with a convention
I vote of 156.
It will require official figures all the
way down to decide finally and abso
lutely who wins this race.
Pottle Leads in
Popular Vote.
Both Pottle and Broyles confidently
claim victory today.
Pottle Is leading Broyles in tlje popu
i lar vote.
officially, the three candidates for
commissioner of agriculture stand:
Price, 50 counties, with 130 conven
tion voles; Brown. 47 counties, with 124
convention votes; Blalock, 28 counties,
with 72 convention votes.
It is evident that this race will go to
the convention.
In the Sixth congressional district,
Bartlett has won out over Wise by a
margin of less than 100 votes.
In the Third. Crisp has won: in the
Eleventh, Walker; in the Ninth, Bell,
and in the Tenth. Hardwick.
The state convention will meet In
Macon next Wednesday, there to de
clare results, adopt a platform, elect a
new state executive committee, and
solve at least one knotty problem, the
nominee for commissioner of agricul
ture.
LUNCH COUNTER TO BE
TRIED OUT ON TRAIN
SAN FRANCISCO, Aug. 23.—Built
for travelers of moderate means the
first “lunch-counter car" ever pus into
service by an American railroad will
be attached to a train on the South
ern Pacific, running from San Francis
co to Los Angeles.
If the car proves a success it will
rapidly be followed by others
The counter will stretch the length
of the car along one side with an aisle
on the opposite as in compartment
sleepers, and with stools in front of
the counter.
Meals will be served at all hours
FAINTS. STOPS WEDDING.
FEARING DIRE PROPHECY
| ELIZABETH CITY N C Aug 23.
; Her former husband's prophecy that
' "something terrible would haptx-n if
she remarried'' caused Mr« Mary Pres
ton to faint as she was about to be
rowed, ami the wedding was de
. la ted off
U. S. BUYS SHERMAN S2O
PAIR OF MOTORING PANTS
W XSHINGTON. Aiif M Th* govern
mem Im-i iml< >.?♦ for 4 pair. »*f npiioimK
(nt Vice President Gherman
ATLANTA. GA.. FRIDAY. AUGUST 2:’., 1912.
ARCHBOLD LETTER TO PENROSE
AND NEW CHARGES BASED ON IT
THE ARCHBOLD LETTER.
Following is the “My Dear Senator" letter to Senator
Penrose, published in Hearst's Magazine, on which im
peachment proceedings are to be based.
Personal October 13, 1904.
My Dear Senator:
In fulfillment of our understanding, it gives me pleasure
to hand you herewith certificates of deposit to your favor for
$25,000 and with good wishes I am yours truly,
JNO. D ARCHBOLD
To Hon. Boies Penrose, 1331 Spruce street, Philadelphia, Pa.
FLINN’S NEW CHARGES.
“The $25,000 was paid to Penrose after he, as a member of
the industrial commission, had taken orders from John D.
Archbold of the Standard Oil, on the course of that commis
sion in investigating the monopoly. Penrose was paid the
$25,000 after the report of the industrial commission had been
submitted to John D. Archbold and approved by him, pre
vious to being made public.’’
MILEAGE RULING
IS DUE AUG, 26
Traveling Men to Go Before
the Railroad Commission to
Wage Their Fight.
\
A decision in the fight to compel the
railroads in Georgia to “puli’’ mileage
on trains, which has been put squarely
up to the railroad commissioners by
the action of Governor Brown in veto
ing the legislative act, is expected to be
reached by next Thursday.
('hairman Murphy Candler said that
he did not see how the matter can be
decided before then and that he prob
ably will have to abandon his trip to
Washington, where a conference of
railroad commissioners of nearly every
Southern .state will be held in regard
to rate classification No. 39
The Atlanta and Macon Railway
Company's bond issue of $7,200,000 will
be another matter of importance be
fore the commission
Leaders in the Travelers Protective
association, one of the most powerful
organizations among traveling men. are
unanimous in deploring Governor
Brown's action, although practically all
of them believe In his sincerity in the
matter.
The traveling men through their or
ganizations, the Travelers Protective
association, the Commercial Travelers
association and the United Commercial
Travelers. Intend to wage the fight be
fore the commission. They had left off
effort in this direction when the bill
met with such a favorable reception in
the legislature.
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SENTELL TAKES TEAM TO
PENSACOLA FOR 3 GAMES
PENSACOLA. FLA., Aug. 23.—Paul
Sentell. the "scrappy" Southern league
infielder, has reached here with a team
of all-star Southern, Cotton States.
Southeastern and Texas State leaguers
for a Friday, Saturday and Sunday se
ries.
The following will be the line-up of
the visitors:
Paul Sentell, of Chattanooga South
ern leaguers, second; P. Cazalot, of Cot
ton States, catcher: P. Wells, with At
lanta Southern leaguers during season
of 1911, catcher; J. Adams. Cotton
States, first; F. Vasterling, who led
batting and home run hitting in South
eastern during season of 1912. third;
Dan Gondolfi. Southeastern, shortstop:
P Gondolfi, Cotton States, 1911, left
field; P. Beggins, Cotton States, center;
"Home Run” Petty. Texas State league,
right: W. Bokenfohr, with Selma
Southeastern league, pitcher: W Ran
kin. with Vicksburg, Cotton States,
season of 1911. pitcher.
A five-inning game between the
Fuerst <S- Kraemers and Whitmans, of
the Twilight league, will be called at
2:30 Friday afternoon. The regular
game will be called fifteen minutes aft
er the conclusion of the game.
SIX-ROUND MARATHON
IS WON BY J. CLARKE
PITTSBURG. PA. Aug 23.—“ Big
Jeff” Clarke, the ebony-hued boxer
from Joplin. Mo., won a six-ronnd
marathon race at Duques Garden last
night from Freddie Hleks. of Detroit,
by sevetal laps. The best bout of the
evening was the six-round go between
Young Saylor of Indianapolis, and Red
Robinson, of the north side.
The opening tight biought together
Hooks Evans and Young Moigan.
Evans had the better of the six round
throughout
; Swats Adamson and Hughe\ Madote
i fought six hard rounds to a draw
BRIDE ARRESTED AS SHE
LEAVES ALTAR AS FORGER
PEHTH AMBOY. N .1 Aug 23
Whilf leaving th* church hercafier h< i
ut-dding • rrrniom Mr« Mar' P Kmu
uraa arr*M*d on fhr «hgrgr i»>rgn '
Hr i husband. I’aul kina dUouned hei
mi unit
The Deposed and
Exposed Boss of Pa.
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PENROSE J
PLAYMATES SUN
BABY WHO TAGGED
Little Joseph. 4. Wouldn’t Stay
at Home. So Five Older Boys
Stone Him to Death.
KANSAS CITY, MO., Aug. 23.—Be
cause he was nut popular with his
playmates ami continually sought their
company, little Joseph Timmerman,
four .tears old, was stoned to death
His body was buried in the brush and
the lads who murdered him went on
about their self-appointed task of cap
turing bugs along Cliff Drive.
I'bis happened on Saturday. Today
two of the ITve boys in the party con
fessed.
When the older boys started for Cliff
Drive little Joseph tagged along. He
was bribed with candy in an effort to
get him to remain at home.
When all efforts failed to keep the
lad at home the older boys began to
throw stones at him. One of the mis
siles struck the boy in the temple and
he fell.
The boys, according to the confes
sion of two, gathered around the pros
trate form of Joseph and when they
saw lie was dead, carried the body into
the underbrush,.where It was found to
day.
"We pulled leaves and branches and
dirt over him until he was all covered
up." John Helnberger sobbed as he
confessed.
Wlri’H the boys returned from their
nip they told Joseph’s parents that the
lad had followed them to the steps to
1 liff Drive, at the foot of Chesnut
street. He lagged behind and they
went on without him. they explained.
MASSEURS TO GIVE
GRACE TREATMENT;
CONDITION IMPROVED
Eugene H. Grace in a few days will
leave the Georgian hospital, where he
Iras been since he underwent an unsuc.
cessful operation two weeks ago. for the
Piedmont hotel, where he will have the
benefit of masseur treatment.
While no cure is expected to result
from this. It is believed that Graces
comfort will be greatly increased At
the hospital Iris condition was pro
nounced excellertt today.
INJURED IN SOUTHERN
FREIGHT WRECK IMPROVE
Conductor Thomas A. Pope, Engineer
B F. Burroughs and I'lninan I.
Barrett, w Im wire injured in the wreck
of a Soutlurn freight train near the
Pattlllo Lumber ('ompan' s plant yr«-
terda.', were doing well today acrord
ipg to rcpoti* float i|i. \tlanta hos
pital. ierr thej wt ii i it, tu d alii r the
.ucldent.
HBCHBDLDRUSHES 10
110 OF SEN. PENRUSE;
MSIIESIIFUOO
Head of Standard Oil Testifies to Giving
s2s,ooo to Roosevelt’s 1904 Cam
paign, ‘But Can’t Find Any Record
of SIOO,OOO Donation.
WASHINGTON, Aug. 23.—. John D. Archhold, directing genius
ot the Standard Oil ( ompany, today before the subcommittee inves
tigating campaign contributions of 1904 and 1908, confirmed the state
ment of Senator Penrose tliat the $25,000 given to the Pennsylvaniafc
senator by the Standard Oil representative in 1904 was for use in thai
Pennsylvania campaign. Archbold also corroborated the senator
statement that the Standard Oil contributed SIOO,OOO to the Repub*
Lean national committee for the Roosevelt campaign.
Senator Penrose, although uot a member of the committee, was?
prominent during the hearing and seemed to regard it as his own per
sonal affair, making many suggestions and at one time almost clash*
ing with Senator Clapp because the Minnesota senator refused to let
e picture be taken of the committee, which Penrose urged be per
mitted.
Colonel Roosevelt, and probably William Flinn, will also be sub*
penaed to testify before the commi
ator Penrose
Archbold told the committee
that he was acquainted with Cor
nelius Bliss, who was the treasurer
of the Republican national com
mittee, hut that he did not know
Cortelyou until later.
"What contributions did you make
directly for the Standard OU Company
to the Republican campaign?" asked
Senator Clapp.
"I made two—one through Mr. Bliss
of $190,006 and one through Senator
Penrose of $25,000," answered Mr. Arch
bold.
"Do you know whe nthe SIOO,OOO con
tribution was made?"
"From the best recollection I have, it
was some time in September. 1904. Per
haps not later than the middle of Sep
tember, 1904.
Made SIOO,OOO
Donation in Currency.
"You made it by check. 1 presume?"
"No; I think I made it In currency."
“Was there any one present besides
yourself and Mr. Bliss?’’
"To the best of my recollection I
was alone in my office at No. 26 Broad
way/’
"Have you any written data that
would fix the<Mate?”
"Mr Bliss sent me a receipt, but in
such an investigation as I have been
able to make I ha-ve not found it, but I
hope to find it.”
"If you should find the receipt, will
you send it to the committee?"
"I will.”
"Did you have any previous talk with
Mr. Bliss before you made this contri
bution?" asked Senator Clapp.
“I had; either at my office or at Mr.
H. H. Rogers’ office. My impression is
that very early In September Mr. Bliss
came to see me and I told him we
would have to submit the matter to the
board," answered Archbold
"Mr Rogers was also an officer of
the Standard Oil?"
"He was. He is now dead. He died
in 1909.”
No Witnesses to
Talk With Bliss.
Archbold stated that there had been
no witnesses that he knew of to his
conversation with Bliss, although Rog
ers might have been present at one of
them, and the questioning continued.
"You stated that you made one con
tribution of $25,000. Was that in a
check sent Senator Penrose?" asked
Senator Clapp.
"I should have said not I don't And
any letter. In the alleged copy which
has been printed purporting to be such
a letter I notice that it reads: Signed,
John D. Archbold,’ but it Is quite un
like my signature I would have said
that I had given it to Senator Penrose
in currency,” answered Mr Archbold
Do you recall distinctly making the
payment of $25,000?”
"1 recall that, and 1 also recall the
agreement. It was made at mv office
and I think the payment was made at
mi office The circumstances of the
signature to that letter leave the letter
open to suspicion.”
"What time would you fix as the
time you marie the payment?"
"1 should think it was in September
or verv early In October.”
Talked With Bliss of
$25,000 Contribution.
When this payment was made. Arch
bold «aid. there was none present to
the lu st of hl’ recollection, but it was
barely possible that Rogers was pres
ent ho said. He asserted in answer to
questions that he had charge of mm
ltoi« of iht« kind In the localities ab uit
Yok
• w hat cunleiemt did >uu have wttii
lx®
2 CENTS EVERYWHERE P^ E °
tee. according to the plans of Sen*
Bliss regarding the $25,000?” asked!
Senator Clapp.
"I think thai Bliss was favorable that
this amount, should go to Penrose,"*
said Archbold.
"The contribution of $25,000, then.,
was Involved in your conversations with
Bliss regarding the $100,000?"
"Yes."
"Subsequent to the payment of
SIOO,OOO and $25,000, did you have any
conferences with any members of the
national committee or with any one
acting in Its behalf with reference to a
further contribution?”
"I did; with Mr. Bliss.”
"When was that?”
”1 should say early in October, noft
later than the 10th. There were two.
or three conferences. The result was»
we declined to make the further con tri,,
button.”
"What conferences did you have witl»
Mr. Cortelyou?”
“I had no conferences with him.”
Effort to Discover
Other Trust Donations.
Continuing, Chairman Clapp proceed*,
ed to inquire ofnto Archbold's conneo*
tlon with others and what, if any, con-«?
trtbutionw were made through them to 1
the Roosevelt campaign fund.
"Did you have any conference-.witta
any one other than Mr. Bliss ?” h<®j
asked.
"No," answered Mr. Archbold.
"During the fall of 1904 were yotft(
generally Interested in United States?
Steel?" )
“Only as a small shareholder. I
not interested in a large way.”
“Did you have any conference witty}
the officials of the steel company’ re*
garfllng the Roosevelt campaign fund? 1 *!
"No."
"Were you connected with any cones
ference held by the sugar trust, thttf
tobacco trust or the harvester trusti
with reference to contributions?”
T was not." I
"Were you interested in any raflroatfl
conference?"
“My contributions to the Roosevelt?
campaign fund and my acts in supports
of the Republican party’ were limited toj
my position as an officer pnd director
of the Standard Oil Company."
"You had no conference with any one
representing a railroad?”
“Wanted it Appropriated
By Powers That Be.”
"I had conferences with no one sav®.
Mr. Bliss. I talked very’ frankly with?
him and explained to him that while?
we were desirous of making this con
tribution we did not desfre to make It
unless it would be approved and appre
ciated by the powers that be. Bliss
smilingly assured me that I need have
no apprehension on that score.'
"By the powers that be. you mean
Theodore Roosevelt, did you'.”’
"1 did."
“Do you know of any contributions
made personally by’ H. H Rogers or Mr.
Rockefeller?”
"Which Rockefeller do you mean?”
Committee to Call
T. R. for Grilling.
Colonel Roosevelt in person will ba.
haled before the committee investigat
ing the expenses of the last two presi
dential campaigns, according to tha
plans of Senator Poles Penrose, it >s
declared here today.
Senator Penrose, whose anger hat
been amused by the publication of let
ters front .lofan l>. Archbold of thft
Standard dll Company, purporting tn
show that Penrose was a beneflclgry oj
th> trust's financial largers. also is sat<s
lo he planning tn have cx-State Sena
tor William Flinn leader of the pro
prrs’tve in Pennsylvania, appear be
lot e ihe , nmmittr*.
P> nroae cliaig>s lliat Flinn offered