Atlanta Georgian. (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, November 07, 1912, EXTRA, Page 8, Image 8

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Kid Shylock & was apparently actuated by a de sire to bring about the rapid dis solution of Young Antonio, and. while the boxing Shylocks of the present merely restrict opponents to a specified weight at a certain hour, yet the frequent result is the pugilistic undoing of the vic tims of the unfair stipulations. It is an established fact that Jo* Gans' death was due to loss of vi tality resultant from excessive re duction of flesh at the dictation of Battling Nelson, and the health of many other boxers has been ruined by taking off so much flesh in prep aration for a bout that nature has rebelled. The remarkable feature of this s pernicious practice Is that the box .ers who habitually seek to weaken ; opponents by weight restrictions . have no basis of right either by rule or precedent for their out rageous demands. There is not in either the Queensberry or London rules a syllable prescribing the weights at which boxers shall meet for championships in the various L . classes. Therefore, boxers have no i alternative except to be guided by precedent, which gives a black eye to ringside weighing. Weights and Classes. In order to place the subject be fore the public in an intelligent manner. I have prepared a list of championship battles in the vari ous classes, with the weights of I contestants and the time of weigh ing. From a perusal of the bantam class figures it will be seen that the limit was advanced on a sliding Beale for the benefit of Dixon's growing avoirdupois up to the time he vaulted into the featherweight i; division. No Restrictions by Barry. E Jimmy Barry, who succeeded Dixon as bantam king, was a 105- pound boy. and. like t’oulon. never f weighed more than 112 in condition for battle. But, unlike t'oulon, | Barry never placed any unjust weight, restriction on opponents, as l» evidenced by his bout with Sammy Kelly, who had a limit of Up 115 at 6 p. in. With the advent of McGovern. Barry, who was getting along in years, decided discreetly to retire. Terrible Terry fought no ehain pionship bouts below 116, and in . only one (that w ith Balmerf did the American champion weigh at F,- the ringside. Rut the bout was E . not contested at ringside w eight, catch weights prevailing. Both McGovern and Palntet weighed leek than 116 pounds ring side the day set fo|’ the bout, but as the arena was unroofed and a heavy rain fell all day the bout was postponed till the following day, when McGovern won in the first round. Neither man weighed on the day of the battle, and both undoubtedly scaled far above 116 pounds. Vet this bout was for the. bantam championship of the world, and no one ever disputed McGov ern’s right to that title After McGovern graduated into the featherweight class and Frankie Neil claimed and defended | the bantam title he set the Amer- E" lean limit for the class at 116 : pounds, but not ringside. Neil's contest with Joe Bowker for the Jones,” a thrilling of The Great White Way, on George M Cohan's play v~now running in New York, will ; begin in Friday’s Georgian. It is well worth reading. HOW TITLES CHANGED HANDS BANTAM CLASS. W glit. Time. George Dlxon-Nune Wallace. London, June 27, 1890 113 2p. m. Dixon-Johnny Murphy, Providence, October 23, 1890 114 3 p.m. Jimmy Barry-Caspar Leon. Lamont. 111.. September 15. 1894 112 Ring. Barry-Sammy Kelly, New York, January 30, 1897 115 6p. m. Terry McGovern-Pedlar Palmer. Tuckahoe. September 12, 1899 116 Ring. Frankie Nell-Joe Bowker, London. October 17, 1904 116 2p. ni. Jimmy Walsh-Dlgger Stanley. London, .May 24, 1909 116 2p. m. Coulon-Burns. New Orleans. 1912 116 Ring. Coulon-Wflliams, New York. October 18, 1912 116 Ring. FEATHERWEIGHT CLASS. George Dixon-CaJ McCarthy, Troy, March 31, 1891 115 Ring. Dixon-Willis, San Francisco, Joly 28, 1891 115 Ring. Dixon-Fred Johnson. Coney Island. June 117 Bp. m. Dixon-Skelly, New Orleans, September 6, 1892 117 Ring. Dixon-Erne, New York, November 27, 1896 122 3p. m. Dixon-Solly Smith, San Francisco. October 4, 1897 120 Ring I>lxon-I>ave Sullivan. New York, November 11, 1898 122 3 p. m. Dixon-McGovern. New York, June 23. 1900 118 Ring. McGovern-Corbett, Hartford. November 28, 1901 126 10 a.m. Attell-Kilbane, Los Angeles, February 22, 1912 122 Ring. LIGHTWEIGHT CLASS. McAuliffe-Myer. New Orleans. September 8, 1892 137 3p. in. McAullffe-Carroll, San Francisco, March 21, 1890 134 3p. m. MeAuliffe-Gtbbons, Hoboken, September 11, 1891 . 135 3p. m. Lavigne-Burge. London. 1896 138 3p. ni. Lavigne-Erne. Buffalo, July 3, 1899 135 3p. m. Erne-Gans, Fort Erie. May 12, 1902 136 7p. m. Nelson-Gans, Colma, September 9, 1908 133 Ring. Wolgast-Neleon. San Francisco, February 22. 1910 133 Ring WELTERWEIGHT CLASS. Tommy Ryan-Billy Smith, Minneapolis, July 26, 1894 142 Ring. Matthews-Smith. New York, 1898 142 Ring. Matthews-Connolly. New York, June 5. 1900 142 Ring. Conpolly-Ferns. Buffalo, August 13, 1900 145 3p. m. Walcott-Ferns. Buffalo, 1901 145 3p. rn. Dixie Kid-Walcott. San Francisco, April 29, 1904 145 3p. m. MIDT>LEW EIGHT C LASS. Dempsey-Fitzsimmons, New Orleans, January 14, 1891 154 Ring Fitzsimmons-Hall. New Orleans, March 8. 1893 lax ap. m. Fitzsiinmons-Creedon, New Orleans. September 26, 1894 160 3p. nt. Ketchell-Papke. San Francisco, November 26. 1908 158 p. m. Tommy Ryan, all title bouts ». 158 Rtv.g. Frank Klaus, all challengers 158 3 i. m. Eddie McGoorty, best weight 158 3 p.m. world’s championship was at 116 pounds at 2 p. m„ the same being the weight conditions when Jimmy Walsh boxed Digger Stanley, the present bantam champion of Eng land. in 1909. Therefore, it is proved that three international bouts for the world's bantam title were not a ringside weight and a majority of the bouts for the American title have been contested with the weighing time hours in advance of the gong for the first round. Coulon's Unjust Demands. When Coulon first laid claim to the championship he demanded that challengers make 105 ringside. He. however, gradually Increased the scale till now he meets challengers at 116 pounds ringside. According to precedent. Coulon has no right to demand ringside weight. With the advent of George Dixon in the featherweight division, his crafty manager, Tom O’Rourke, insisted on a weight of 115 ringside, and it was at that poundage the negro defeated Cal McCarthy for the title. Later on Dixon met both Johnson and Skelly at 117 pounds. 3 p. in., and then jumped to 122 for Frank Erne. O'Rourke slid the scale down to 120 ringside for Solly Smith, who defeated Dixon, but let Dave Sul livan in at 122. 3 p. m. Hut when McGovern loomed on the Queensherry horizon O’Rourke, believing tin; Brooklyn terror would be weak at 118 ringside, named that weight, which was ac cepted by Sam Harris for McGov erjj Terry proved he could make the weight and fight with his ac customed fury, and little Chocolate was vanquished in eight rounds at the old Bioadway A. C., New York. No one has ever had the hardi hood to declare that McGovern did not w in the featherweight title sim ply bet ause the weight was not 122 ringside. McGovern defended the title at all sorts of weights, but never be low 122, and final!) lost to Young t'orbett in the historic battle at Hartford at 126 pounds, 10 a. m„ for a bout that started at 3 p, m It will be seen that If McGovern <ould not lOS< his title except at 122 pounds ringside, then he did not lose It to Corbett at 126 pounds, and he did not win it from Dixon at US pounds. If the claim thai a title mi not THE ATLANTA GEORGIAN AND NEWS.THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 7. change hands except as a stipulated ringside weight holds good, then a majority of the championship bouts were in vain, and the titles claimed by some of the greatest boxers in the history of the sport are void. It is quite true that a uniform scale of weights should be adopted by all countries that encourage boxing, but this scale should not be retroactive. Kilbane, the present title holder, demands ringside weight from chal lengers. but is not justified by the facts. In no class is the fallacy of ring side weight more clearly shown than in the lightweight division. The title In that class has changed hands twice at Isß ringside—Gans to Nelson and Nelson to Wolgast. In all the other titular bouts the weight has been greater than 133 pounds and not at ringside. In the bout between George La vigne. the Saginaw Kid. holder of the American title by virtue of claim and defense after the volun tary retirement of the champion. McAuliffe, and Dick Burge, the British champion, the American won by knockout in seventeen rounds in a bout at 128 pounds at 8 p. m. This bout was for the lightweight championship of the world and this title had descended from Lavigne to Erne, to Gans, to Nelson, to Wolgast. Yet the battle in which this world's championship was brought to America was not at 133 pounds ringside. Nor have a ma jority of the bouts in America for the title been fought at 133 pounds ringside. Lavigne Lost at 135 Pounds. As will be seen by the record, Lavigne lost to Erne at 135 pounds. 3 p. ni.. and Erne lost to Gans at 136 pounds, 7 p. m. All of Mc- Auliffe’s bouts in defense of his title were contested at weights above 133 pounds and not at ring side. Nelson and Wolgast both .being small men set the figures at 133 pounds ringside. The welter championship has lapsed throuj. i lack of competitors, but a majority of titular contests were at 145 pounds, 3 p. m. In the middleweight class the early bouts for the title were at 154 ringside, and while Fitzsim mons. in his bout with Dsmpsey. scaled only -4 pounds, yet the TECH STRONGER FOR SEWANEE BATTLE DESPITE the ijuny weather and the muddy field, the Yellow Jacket squad put in a hard day’s work yesterday scrim maging as usual. The varsity is "going good” on of fense and is improving on defense, but it not quite up to the standard as yet. A high-class tackling dufftmy has been bought and put in use. It re quires a pull of 150 pounds to jerk it down. This is developing the tackling wonderfully and the men will show a decided improvement in this line when they tackle the Se wanee Tigers next Saturday. ’ The chances are about even for a Tech victory, and the fight will be one of brains, not brawn. Luck is sure to play a prominent part. As a whole prospects are bright and Tech will be there with the old stuff. M’GRAWHIGHEST PRICED MANAGER IN BIG LEAGUES Erank Chance’s statement that he got SB,OOO as manager of the -Cubs was something of a surprise, as it was gen erally supposed that he got a yearly stipend of not less than five figures, although it is presumed that his stock in the Cubs returned him enough to put him in the plutocratic class of baseball men. Apparently, John J. McGraw is the highest priced man connected with the game, so far as mere salary is con cerned. McGraw is said to be getting something like SIB,OOO a year, with a long-time contract, and this is real money. When Bresnahan signed his four year contract at St. Louis, Mrs. Brit ton gave out a statement as to the Duke’s yearly salary which caused a laugh among baseball men. As it turned out. Bresnahan was getting $lO,- i)00 salary with a percentage on the profits of the club. Fred Clarke is supposed to be get ting a high salary, at least SB,OOO, if not more. Connie Mack probably takes down more actual cash every year than any one else, but Connie’s interest in the Athletics puts him in the class of magnates. It was supposed that Chance was getting at least $25,000 a year out of the Cubs, counting salary and divi dends, but his salary alone would have been placed at over SIO,OOO by any baseball man making an offhand gues* at it. BROWN BESTS SAYLOR. DETROIT. MICH.. Nov. 7.—Pat Brown was the aggressor in the fight with Young Saylor at Windsor last night and got the popular verdict after eight rounds. freckled gladiator increased the scale surprisingly in his later bouts, when he was the defender of the championship. Tommy Ryan, who took the mid dleweight title when Fitz leaped into the heavyweight division, could do 154 pounds and fight strongly; but he defended the title at 158 pounds at 3 p. m. Those who insist there is in ex istence an arbitrary scale of weights declare that no tiles can change hands except the contest ants weigh as follows: Bantam—ll 6 pounds, ringside. Feather—l 22 pounds, ringside. Lightweight —133 pounds, ringside. Welterweight—l 42 pounds, ring side. Middleweight—lsß pounds, ring side. Their contention, in Bull Moose \ ernacular. is "slugged over the ropes" by the facts and tiguiva. All-Star Southern League Team of 1912 a Freak «!■••]> 4*«4* <•••;• Atlanta Gets One Man, Bailey, on This Line-Up By Percy H. Whiting. THE official Southern league batting and fielding averages are out and it is possible to pick the all-star teams of the 1912 season. Here is the all-star fielding team: First base —Schwartz, Nash- ville 982 Second base—Wares, Mont gomery’ 978 Third base—O'Dell, Atlanta- Mobile 955 Shortstop—Lindsay, Nashville. .960 Outfielder —Johnson, Mont gomery 1.000 Outfielder—Schweitzer, Mem phis 985 Outfielder —Welchonce, Nash ville 981 Catcher—Dllger, Birmingham. .993 Catcher —Hight, New Orleans. .976 This, by the way, wouldn't be a bad team. Often the team that leads the league in fielding is way off on hitting, but Welchonce, Johnson, Schwartz, Hight and Wares all batted over .275. The record of Johnson, the Mont gomery outfielder, was really mar velous. The man played in 64 games in the outfield and didn't make an error. He had 92 chances in that time. More than that, he batted .320. It is doubtful if all Southern league history will shotv a man who played' in 64 games, did not make an error and batted .320. * ♦ • JUST byway of playing the thing with a reverse English, the worst fielding team of 1912 is pre sented: First baseman —Johnson. New Orleans 976 Second baseman Hendryx, New Orleans 917 Third baseman —Netzel, Mem- phis 873 Shortstop—O’Brien, Atlanta- Mobile 821 Outfield—Messenger. Birming- ham 919 Outfielder —Hemphill, Atlanta. .949 Outfielder —Spencer, New Or leans 951 Catcher —McAllister, Mont gomery - 931 Catcher —Hanna, Chattanooga .933 It will be observed that only one Birmingham man appears in the team of star fielders and only one among the punk fielders. All of .which goes to prove the contention that Birmingham won with a team of mediocre ability—that played up to its limit. • • • ry course, the main thing in picking an all-star team Is the batting. Here is how an organiza tion would work out, picked ex clusively for batting ability: First baseman McGilvray, Birmingham 314 Second base —Alperman. At lanta 286 Third base—Almeida, Bir mingham 301 Shortstop—Harbison. Atlanta. .296 Outfield—Welchonce, Nashville .325 Outfield —Johnson. Montgom- ery 320 outfield —Bailey. Atlanta 315 Catcher —Hight, New Orleans. .280 Catcher—Seabaugh. Nashville- Memphis 272 Note that three of the players named are Atlantans. The excellence of Harry Bailey's batting average is a pleasant sur prise to Atlanta fant. The unoffi cial averages, generally, gave him a lower mark. The Cracker outfielder stood second in the Southern league among the men who played in 100 or more games. The only man who topped him was the league leader. Welchonce. of Nash ville. Harbison's showing was also excellent, as was Alperman's. These men proved heavy hitters, espe cially for infielders. • « • » THE matter of picking the real all-Southern league team for the -eason is not difficult, with the dope at hand. Here it is: McGilvray, Ib.—A batting aver age of .314, combined with a rec- ord of only 21 errors for the sea son, not to mention the fact that he was a good base runner, gives the Birmingham first baseman the call. Wares, 2b. —It is a toss-up be tween Wares, of Montgomery, and Alperman, of Atlanta, for the sec ond base job. Whitey was the bet ter batter by .286 to .275, but he was the worse fielder, .953 to .978. Wares has the advantage In base stealing, 42 to 28, and on mere figures de serves the call. If headwork were considered, Alperman would be the winner. Almeida, 3b.—The third basing talent wasn't painfully classy this season. McDonald, of Nashville, and Almeida, of Birmingham, are the logical choices. McDonald fielded .941. which was good, but batted only .250. Almeida batted .301. but fielded miserably, .911. However, when you weigh Almei da’s advantage in hits—llß to 68 against McDonald's advantage in errors, 16 to 35, it is easy enough to award the palm, such as it is, to the Cuban. Balenti, ss. —There were a. slather of fairly good shortstops in the Southern league last year. Accord ing to the records, the best men were Elberfeld, Balenti. Crandall and Harbison. Elberfeld fielded best and batted the worst of the four. His great headwork and his pepper would make him a valuable man. and he would get second call. Harbison, the Cracker, had the best batting mark in the lot and the worst fielding. Crandall was fairly good in batting and fielding. But The farmer chews Drummond because < vft he knows it is made of^enuine,mild.nafuial- leaf Burley In DRUMMOND NATURAL LEAF CHEWING TOBACCO | th,e best general average is pos sessed by Bill Smith’s Indian. He fielded .916 and batted .288. which is a good record. Johnson, Welchonce and Bailey, outfielders—These men are easy io pick. Their batting averages are .320 .325 and .315, respectively, and that's all you want to know about an outfielder, provided he can catch a ball even a little bit. Haigh and Seabough, catchers— The general batting work of the Southern league catchers wa< >" weak that it is a hard matter to pick the leaders. Haigh. of New Orleans, wins a place easily, but the second string man is harder to pick. Angemeier did well, but ap peared in only a few games, anil batted only .258. So the job goes to “Doc” Seabough. They said he was all in when they canned him at Nashville, but he went to Mem phis and managed to gel through the season with a batting mark of .272 and a fielding record of .951. Aitchison, Demaree, Wagner, West and Foxen, pitchers—Th • five men, in the order named, wert the real winners of the season. If West were thrown out because of the fact that he worked only '• n times, fifth honors would go io Boyd. It is a notable fact that t e first four men named played with mediocre teams. Aitchison ait< Demaree all but "made" the teanr they played with. Merrell. Ca' t and Summers all deserve modal for good work with second-rate teams. As might be expected, this all star team, picked from the aver ages. is a weak club: weaker than usual, just as the Southern league of 1912 was weaker than usual.