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Detectives were unable to locate anybody name Finnegan who had given Becker money, Boxers* Demands Not Justified Regarding Weight •:••:■ •:•»•:• •:•••:« •:•••:• -:•••:• •>•%• No Rules Which Make Exact Poundage Necessary By J-cM Hook. SHYLOOK'S demand for a pound of flesh to be carved from Antonio's cardiac region was but slightly more reprehensi ble than the weight exactions of some modern boxers. Kid Shylock was apparently actuated by a de sire* to bring about tae rapid dis solution of Young Antonio, and, while the boxing Shy locks of th« present merely restrict opponents to a specified weight at a certain hour, yet the frequent result is the pugilistic undoing of the vic tims of the unfair stipulations. it is a\t established fact that Joe Gans' death was dm to loss of vi tality resultant from excessive re duction of flesh at the dictation of Battling Nelson, and the health of many other boxers has been ruined by taking off so mm h flesh in prep aration for a bout that nature has rebelled. The remarkable feature of this pernicious practici is that the box ers who habitually seek to weaken opponents by weigitt restrictions have no ba- s of right either by rule or preccdmt for their out rageous demands. There is not in either th- Qm ■ n sherry or London rules a s. I' prescribing lite weights at wh'ch boxers shall meet so championships in the various clttsu s. Therefore, boxers have no nltcrnrtivo < x.*. >u (to be guided by precedent. w hich ".ives a black eye to ringside * eloping. V.'e tht . ant Ciasses. In older to place tile sub.tr.: In ■ fore the public in an intelligent majoier, 1 have prepared a list of < h ;-nple’ shin battles in the vari ous classes, with the weights of contestants and the time of weigh liq. From a per ■ . of tin- hantani ss flguii > it . i'i I * s- < n that the limit w.s aha;.. .i' on a sliding scale to. the benefit of Hixon's growing av< trdt mis .’.w io the time he tainted Into the fiatherweig.it division. No Restrictions b Barry. » .limin’’ bany, who succeeded Dixon as bantr.ni king, was a 105- pound boy. and. like Co.lion, tiev.r wrirli d m n than 112 in condition for butt i. But. uniilte Coulon, r-irry never placed any unjust v. eig ■ u -i'ic'ion on opponents, as i. evidetced b; his bout with S, Jim; Ki lb . vbo had a limit of 115 tl ■>. m. I Wild i.ic advent of MvGuVcn. Barry who was gyring along in y-. ais, di l im d discreetly to retire. Terrible' Terry fought no cham pionship bouts below I IK. and in only ■ ne < that with Palnteri did t :e u lean champion weigh at the ringside. But the bout was not contested at ringside weight, catcliw eiguts prevailing Both McGovern and Palmer weighed less than 116 pounds ring side the day set for the bout, but as the arena was unroofed and a heavy rain fell all day the bout was postponed till the following day, when McGovern won in the first round. Neither man weighed on the day of the battle, and both undoubtedly scaled far above 116 pounds. Yet this bout was for the bantam championship of the world, and no one ever disputed McGov ern’s right to that title. After McGovern graduated into the featherweight class and Frankie Neil claimed and defended the bantam title he set tye Amer ican limit for the class at 116 pounds, but not ringside. Neil's contest with Joe Bowker for the "Broadway Jones,” a thrilling story of “The Great White Way, ” based on George M. Cohan 's play now running in New York, will begin in Friday’s Georgian. It is well worth reading I HOW TITLES CHANGED HANDS BANTAM CLASS. W gilt. Time. George Dixon-Nune Wallace. London, June 27, 1890 113 2p. m. I»."on-.lohr.ny Aim phy. Providence. October 23, 189-0 114 3 p.m. Jimmy Barry-t'a par L»on l ament, 111.. September 15. 1894. 112 Ring. Barry-Sammy Kelly New York, January 30. 1897 115 6 p.m. Ten.v Motion rn-I T<ill r Palmer. Tuckahoe, September 12, 1/99 116 Ring. Frankie Neil-Joe Bowker, London, October 17. 1904 116 2 p.m. Jimmy Walah-1 ligger Stanlev. London, May 24, 1909 116 2 p.m. C. uh.n-Bm us. New Oileal - 1912 '. 116 Ring «' . ii-Will a, s. \’< w Yo: .. ' . tuber 18 1.912 116 King. 'ieaYheiiw eight class. George I >ivon-<'id McCarthy. Tro.'. March 81, 189 t 115 Ring 1 1 ■ "i.-Willis. San Francisco, July 1831 115 Ring. Taxon-1 red Jolmaoii. I'oney Island. June 117 3 p.m. I lixoii-Skelly, Nev. erha.-.w. September t. 18K .. 117 Ring. I lixor-Erne. New York. Vove über :7. ;B'i6 .. I“‘_' 2 p.m. Hixon-Solly Smith. San Francisco. October 4. 1897 120 Ring I >ic oil-1 >ave Sullivan. New York. November 11. 18! 8 122 3p. in. I• ' 011-\b ■ iovei n New York, lune 23. 100 • .. US Ring. MeGoiern Corbett. Hartford Novembe" 28. piol 126 10 am. Mtell-Kilbane. Los Vngelee. February 22. 1912 122 Iting. LIGHTWEIGHT CLASS. M> Vol. t-iiyi'. Xev orli.us, Septembers. 189... 157 3p. in. M. .' ,i!'!T b. S" 1 *r:' 1■ 1 -eo, March 21. 1890 134 3 p.m. McAulilTe-Gibbi. is. H< iol;en. September 11, 1891. .. 135 3 () n) Lavigne-Burge. London. 1896 138 3 p.m. 11 vigor- Erne. Buffalo. July 1 899 ~ 125 3 p.m. Ern«-C.'us. For: Erie. May IL. 1902 1.16 7 p.m. Xels' ’ii-< hi is. pen September 9. 1008 1:::’, Ring. Wolgasl-Nelsi m Suu Francisco, February 22, 1910 183 Ring WELTERWEIGH’I’ CLASS. Tommy Itvan-Hilly Smith. Minneapolis, July 26, 1894 142 Ring. Matihews-Siaith. New York, 1898 t4j Ring. Mellin w-C on no" Xew Yo.-l .Jme 5. !''oo 143 Ring. Connolly-Ferns. Buffalo. August 13. 1900 145 3 p.m. IValcott-Ferns. Buffalo, 1901 145 3 pmu Dixie JCd-Walcott, San Francisco, April 29, 1904 145 3p. nt. MIDDLEWEIGHT CLASS. Dempsey - Fitzsimmons. Ntw Orleans, Jat ugr. K I3f»t 154 Ring. I 'tz.-mrmons-l (all. New I'rleuus. March 8. 1893 16" 3 p.m. Fitzslmmons-Creedon. New Orleans. September 26. 1894 i«o 3 m in' Kei< hell-1 'alike. San I'rancisco, X’ovemlte;'£.l. 1908 159 3 pm' Toaimy Ityan. all title bents 15s Ring. I'rnnk Klaus, all challengers |sg 3 p.m. Eddie McGoorty. best weight 158 3 pm' world's champlcnsbip wa ; -i 116 poinds nt 2 p. in.. Ihe lo' being tin weight condition- when Jimmy Walsh boxed Digge.' istanley, the pies-nt bantam 1 'tampion of Eng land. in 1909. Then fore, it is proved that three international bouts for the world's bantam title were not at ringside weight and a majoiitv of the bouts fur the Vntrican title have been contested with the weighing time hours in advance of the gong lor the first round. Conlon's Unjust Demands. When Conlon first laid claim to | th- eh,.m;c.’tiship lie demanded that I elmllengers make 105 ringside. He. Imw ver. gladtta’.ly iiiv".eased tie ■ ■ :lv tili-nov. he ui-ets challengers I v 116 pounds ringside. According I to prcc'dent. Conlon iias no right to drmati.: ringside weight. With tlie advent of George Dixon in the fi it iiervv. ,ght division, his manage . Tom O'Rourke, insisted j on a weight of 115 ringside, and it vv. s at that poundage the negro defeated Cal McCarthy for the title. Later on Dixon mot both Johnson ami Skelly at 117 pounds, 3 p. m.. and then jumued to 122 for Frank Erne. O'Rourke slid tlie scale down to 120 ringside for Solly .Smith, who defeated Dixon, but let Dave Sul livan in at 122. 3 p. m. But when McGovern loomed on tlie Queensberry horizon O'Rourke, believing the Brooklyn terror* would be weak at 118 ringside, named that weight, which was ac cepted by Sam Harris for McGov ern. Terry proved he could make the weight ami tight with his ac customed fury, and little Chocolate was vanquished in eight rounds at the old Bioadway A. C.. New York. No one lias ever had the hardi hood to declare that McGovern did not win the featherweight title sim ply because the weight was not 122 ringside. McGovern defended the title at all sorts of weights, but never be low 122. and finally lost to Young Corbett in the historic Hattie at Hartford at 1.26 pounds. 10 a. m., ' for a bout that started at 3 p. m. It will be seen that if McGovern could !><.■} lose his title except at"'- 122 pounds ringside, then he did not lose it to Corbett at 126 pounds, and he did not win it from Dixon at lis pounds. claim that a title can not I'HE ATLANTA GLOKGLAN AAD NEWS.THURSDAY. NO\ EMBEK 7, IVi- change hands except as a stipulated ringside v.clgm holds good, then a majority of the championship bouts were in vain, and the lilies claimed by some of the greatest boxers In the history of the sport are void. it is quite true tiiat a uniform scale of weights should be adopted by all countrirs tiiat encourage boxing, but ,his scale should not be retroactive. Kilbane, the present title holder, demands ringside weight from chal lengers, but is not justified by the facts.- In no class is the fallacy of ring side weight more clearly shown than in the lightweight division. Thf title in that class has changed hands twice at 133 ringside—Gans to Nelson and Nelson to Wolgast. In all the other titular bouts the v,cip.ht has been greater than 133 pounds and not at rirgside. In tile bout between George La vigne. liie Sagiiiaw'Kid. holder of the American title by virtue of claim and defense after the volun tary retirement of the champion, McAuliffe, and Dick Burge, the British champion, the American won by knockout in seventeen rounds in a bout at 128 pounds at 3 p. m. This bout was for the lightweight championship of the world and this title had descended from Lavigne to Erne, to Gans, to Nelson, to Wolgast. Yet the battle in which this world's championship was brought to America was not at 133 pounds ringside. Nor have a ma jority of the bouts in America for the title been fought at 133 pounds ringside. Lavigne Lost at 135 Pounds. As will be seen by the record. Lavigne lost to Erne at 135 pounds. 3 p. m., and Erne lost to Gans at 136 pounds, 7 p. m. All of Mc- Auliffe's bouts in defense of his title were contested at weights above 133 pounds and not at ring side. Nelson and Wolgast both being small men set the figures at 133 pounds ringside. The welter championship lias lapsed through lack of competitors but a majority of titular contests were at 145 pounds. 3 p. m. In the middleweight class the early bouts for the title were at 154 ringside, and while Fitzsim mmis. In hl< bo :t with Dempsey, scaled only 15t'l-4 pounds, yet the TECH STRONGER FOR SEWANEE BATTLE DESPITE the t-ainy weather and the rnutfdy field, the Yellow Jacket squad put in a hard day's work yesterday scrim maging as usual. The varsity is “going good" on of fense and is improving on defense, but it not quite up to the standard as yet. A high-class tackling dummy has been bought and put in use. It re quires a pull of 15v pounds to jerk it down. This is developing the tackling wonderfully and the men will show a decided improvement in this line when they tackle the Se wanee Tigers next Saturday. The chances are about even for a Tech victory, and the tight will be one of biains. not brawn. Luck is sure to play a prominent part. As a whole prospects are bright and Tech will be there with the old sluff. MGRAW HIGHEST PRICED MANAGER • IN BIG LEAGUES Flank Chance's statement that he got SB,OOO as manager of the Cubs was something of a surprise, as it was gen erally supposed that he got a yearly stipend of not less than five figures, although it is presumed that his stock in tlie Cubs returned him enough to put him in the plutocratic class of baseball men. Apparently, John J. McGraw is the highest priced man connected with the game, so far as mere salary is con cerned. McGraw is said to be getting something like SIB,OOO a year, with a long-time contract, and this is real money. When Bresnahan signed his four year contract at St. Louis, Mrs. Brit ton gave out a statement as to the Duke’s yearly salary which caused a laugh among baseball men. As it turned out. Bresnahan was getting $lO,- 000 s-tlnry with a percentage on the profits of the club. Fred Clarke is suppos’d to be get ting a high salary, at least SB,OOO, if not more. Connie Mack probably takes dow n more actual cash every year than any one else, but Connie’s interest in the Athletics puts him In the class of magnates. It was supposed that Chance was getting at least $25,000 a year out of the Cubs, counting salary and divi dends. but his salary alone would have been placed at over SIO,OOO by any baseball man making an offhand guess at it. BROWN BESTS SAYLOR. DETROIT, MICH. Nov. 7.—Pat Brown was the aggressor in the tight with Young Saylor at Windsor last night and got the popular verdict after eight rounds. freckled gladiator increased the scale surprisingly in his later bouts, when he was tWe defender of the championship. Tommy Ryan, who tool) the mid dleweight title when Fitz leaped into the heavyweight division, could do 154 pounds and fight strongly; but he defended the title at 158 pounds at 3 p. tn. Those who insist there is in ext istence an arbitrary scale of weights declare that no tiles can change hands except the contest ants weigh as follows: Bantam -116 pounds, ringside. Feather —122 pounds, ringside. Lightweight—J33 pounds, ring side. , Welterweight —142 pounds, ring side. Middleweight 158 pounds, ring side. Their contention. In Bull Moose vernacular, is "slugged over the ropes" by the faits and figures. “ All-Star Southern League Team of 1912 a Freak -I-a-;- +»4- +•+ +•+ +•+ +•+ ■?••+ Atlanta Gets One Man, Bailey, on This Line-Up By Percy H. Whiting. THE official Southern league batting and fielding averages are out and it is possible to pick the all-star teams of the 1912 season. Here is the all-star fielding team: First base—Schwartz, Nash- ville ... ... .992 Second base—Wares. Mont- gomery 978 Third* base—-O'Dell, Atlanta- Mobile 955 Shortstop—Lindsay. Nashville. .969 Outfielder—Johnson. Mont- gomery 1.000 Outfielder—Schweitzer, Mem- phis 985 Outflelde: —Welchonce, Nash- ville 981 Catcher—Dilgcr, Birmingham. .993 Catcher —Hight, New Orleans. .976 This, hr the way, wouldn’t be a bad team. Often the team that leads the league in fielding is way oft? on hitting, but Welchonce, Johnson. Schwartz. Hight and Wares all batted over .275. The record of Johnson, the Mont gomery* outfielder, was really mar velous. The man played in 64 games in the outfield and didn’t make an error. He had 92 chances in that lime. More than that, he batted .320. It is doubtful if all Southern league history will show a man who played in 61 games, did not make an error and hatted .320. * « * JUST byway of play ing the thing with a reverse English, the worst fielding team of is pre sented : First baseman—Johnson. New Orleans 976 Second baseman Hendryx. New Orleans 917 Third baseman —Netzel, Mem- phis 873 Shortstop—O'Brien, Atlanta- Mobile ... 821 Outfield—Messenger. Birming- ham 919 Outfielder—Hemphill, Atlanta. .949 Outfielder —Spencer, New Or- leans 951 Catcher — McAllister, Mbn t - gornery ■ 931 Catcher—Hanna, Chattanooga .933 It will be observed that only one Birmingham man appears in the t am of star.fielders and only* one among the punli fielders. All of which goes to prove the contention that Birmingham won with a team of mediocre ability—that played up to its limit. * * * ZAP course, the main thing in picking an all-star team is the batting. Here is how an organiza tion would work out. picked ex clusively for batting ability: First baseman McGUvray, Birmingham 314 Second base —Alperman, At lanta 286 Third base—Almeida. Bir mingham 301 Shortstop—Harbison. Atlanta. .296 Outfield—Welchonce. Nashville .325 Outfield —Johnson. -Montgom- ery 320 Outfield—Bailey. Atlanta 315 Catcher —Hight. New Orleans. .280 Catcher —Seabaugh, Nashville- Memphis 272 Note that three of the players named are Atlantans. The excellence of Harry Bailey’s batting average is a pleasant sur prise to Atlanta fans. The unoffi cial averages, generally, gave him a lower mark. The Cracker outfielder stood second in the Southern league among the men who played in 100 or more games. The only man who topped him was the league leader. Welchonce, of Nash ville. Harbison's show ing was also excellent, as was Alperman's. These men proved heavy* hitters, espe cially for infielders. * * * THE matter of picking the real all-Southern league team for the season is not difficult, with the dope at hand. Here it Is: McGilvray, Ib.—A batting avei age of .314, combined with a rec- ord of only 21 errors for the sea son, not to mention the fact that he was a good base runner, gives the Birmingham first baseman the cal). Wares, 2b.— lt Is a toss-up be tween Wares, of Montgomery, and Alperman, of Atlanta, for the sec ond base job. Whitey was the bet ter batter by .286 to .275, but he was the worse fielder, .953 to .978. Wares has the advantage in base stealing, 42 to 28, and on mere figures de serves the call. If headwork were considered, Alperman would be the winner. Almeida, 3b.—The third basing talent wasn't painfully classy this season. McDonald, of Nashville, and Almeida, of Birmingham, are the possible choices. McDonald fielded .941. which was good, but batted only .250. Almeida batted .301. but fielded miserably, .911. However, when you weigh Almei da's advantage in hits—llß to 68 against McDonald’s advantage in errors, 16 to 35, it is easy enough to award the palm, such as it is, to the Cuban. Balenti, ss.— There were a slather of fairly good shortstops in the Southern league last year. Accord ing to the records, the best men were Elberfeld, Balenti, Crandall and Harbison. Elberfeld fielded best and batted the worst of the four. His great headwork and hia pepper would make him a valuable man. and he would get second call. Harbison, the Cracker, had the best batting mark in the lot and the worst fielding. Crandall was fairly good in batting and fielding. But The Farmer chews Drummond because y V® he knows it is made feb a® of genuine, mild .natural- J leaf tigWl DRUMMOND NATURAL LEAF CHEWING TOBACCO g the best general average is pos sessed by Bill Smith's Indian. He fielded .916 and batted .288, which is a good record. Johnson, Welchonce and Bailey, outfielders—These men are easy to pick. Their batting averages are .320 .325 and .315, respectively, and that’s all you want to know about an outfielder, provided he can catch a ball even a little bit. Haigh and Seabough, catchers— The general batting work of the Southern league catchers was so weak that It is a hard matter to pick the leaders. Haigh. of New- Orleans, wins a place easily, but the second string man is harder to pick. Angemeier did well, but ap peared in only a few games, and batted only .258. So the job goes to “Doc” Seabough. They said he was all in when they canned him at Nashville, but he went to Mem phis and managed to get through the season with a batting mark of .272 and a fielding record of .951. Aitchison, Demaree, Wagner, West and Foxen, pitchers— These five men, in the order named, were the real winners of the season. If West were thrown out because of the fact that he worked only ten times, fifth honors w r ould go to Boyd. It is a notable fact that the first four men named played with •mediocre teams. Aitchison and Demaree all but “made” the teams they played with. Merrett, Cavet and Summers all deserve medal« for good work with second-rate teams. As might be expected, this all star team, picked from the aver ages, is a weak club; weaker than usual, just as the Southern league of 1912 was weaker than usual.