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Score Will Be From 1 to 3 Touchdowns to 0
By J. W. Heisman.
THE only mill down on the
Southern slate for tomorrow
is the one between Auburn
and the Commodores.
This game will not only decide
the championship of the South, but
probably also it will settle which
team shall rank second, for it is
likely that Auburn will defeat
Georgia on Thanksgiving day, and
more likely still that Vanderbilt
will do the same thing for Se
wanee.
A comparison of the weights of
the two teams shows a .slight edge
in favor of Vanderbilt. Team ex
perience indicates a stand-oft.
though perhaps Auburn ha* a shade
the better of the figures hero. Speed
in the back field must go to Van
derbilt’s side of the ledger. The
prestige of past performances, both
this year and in previous years, is
clearly with the Commodores, while
the matter of physical condition
points toward Auburn. The play
ing grounds are neutral.
A consideration of the foregoing
facts does not clearly point out a
winner; so we must go further.
Vanderbilt's running game Is con
siderablj ahead of Auburn’s, but
the Commodores are almost as far
behind the Alabamians when It
comes to the bucking game. It
seems certain to my mind that the
Vanderbilt backs are going to
make substantial gnlns around Au
burn’s ends, for they did tt even
against Harvard.
Is it equally certain that Auburn
is going to make headway through
Vanderbilt’s line?
No; not equally certain— despite
rhe tremendous driving power of
the Auburn back field.
W hy not ?
Because Vanderbilt’s line is
heavy enough and its charging and
tackling good enough very nearly
<o match It. Excellent as Is Au
burn’s drive and power, it must
not be lost sight of that they only
scored once on Mississippi A. M.,
and that was by a long end run by
Newell. Against L. S. U. they fared
no better, making only one touch
down. and that not by bucking, but
because the left end curried the
ball for a rather long run.
Was Donahue Possuming?
The question arises, therefore,
may not Donahue be holding his
light under a bushel? Might they
not have scored more had they
chosen so to do? Yes: that is quite
possible, for Donahue has been
playing the patient, waiting game
the whole season in anticipation of
this game. Auburn is not likely
to show many new and effective
plans; but it is fairly possible that
they could have scores more points
with the plays they used had they
seen fit to do so.
When it comes to punting. Au
burn. with Majors to propel the
pigskin, has all the better of it over
Vanderbilt; while the latter is un
doubteldy Auburn's superior when
it comes to forward passing. It
must not be overlooked, however,
that Vanderbilt is considerably bet
ter fortified than Auburn in the
matter of goal kicking from the
field; and such a play in such a
game is likely to bo the deciding
factor, a* it has been in many an
other gatne this season.
Here's Vandy's Edge.
Tile departments of play thus tar
considered show, I should say. a
very slight margin in favor of the
Commodores; but hardly enough or.
which to base a sure prognostic a
► tion in their favor. Now however,
we < ome to the last item needing
consideration, and here the dispar
ity between th. tea.us has been de
cidedly marked so much so that I
am inclined to think that the rsult
of the game will turn upon this
very point. 1 refer to the tackling.
I will not mince Matters. In Au
burn's game in Atlanta the play
ers tackled wretchedly, and my un
derstanding is that they have been
k weak in that respect the whole sea-
son. It is true, sufficient time has
elapsed since then for the Auburn
ites to have overcome this fault,
and perhaps they have done so.
Vanderbilt, on the other hand,
has been a fine tackling team the
whole season. Their defense has
been irrepressibly fierce and eager,
and even against Harvard they
plunged in so valiantly that they
met with severe penalties. In the
end. this ambition will count heavi
ly, despite the probable infliction pf
penalties; and I think it reason
able to suppose that this same abil
ity to “pile in” is going to turn the
tide in Vanderbilt’s favor.
But Just one more point. The
great Hardage is t.ot In the best of
shape. And don’t you know that
Auburn is going to hit him like a
ten-ton truck every time they can
get near enough to do It? They
can not have forgotten that Hard
age was once theirs, and that he
has. so to speak, gone over to the
enemy. Yes; they will surely have
the smash against this individual
whether they have it against the
whole Vanderbilt team or not.
By this I do not mean at all that
they are going to attempt any
thing in the least unsportsmanlike
with Hardage. lam perfectly con
fident they are not. But, wholly
within the bounds of* legitimate
football roughness, they are going
to do their best to impress the
Vanderbilt captain with certain odd
moments of the game which he will
be apt to remember till Monday
morning, anyway.
liemember, though, that Vander
bilt still played grand ball ajl the
way through against Harvard, even
though their captain had to leave
that game in the second quarter.
The verdict?
Vanderbilt, I think, by one touch
down surely, and probably by two:
perhaps by thnee. No score for
Auburn. Don’t forget the tiny
Tech team made 19 first downs on
Auburn, rushed the ball 373 yards,
and pushed it over for the only
touchdown that has been scored
against Auburn this year. If Tech
could do it once, Vanderbilt can do
it twice or oftener.
THREE-RING SHOW AT
ATHENSON THURSDAY
, * TH ENS, GA., Nov. 22.—The
ZA Georgia team, after enjoying
a few days rest following the
hard game with Tech, has resumed
practice again, and between now
md Thanksgiving Coach Cunning
ham will reorganize both his at
tack and defense for the battle wlth
Auburn.
The players came out of the game
Saturday in good shape, most of
them a bit bruised up. but none of
them injured to any extent. Row
den contracted a charlcy horse Sat- ■
urday night, but several days rest
at his home at McDonough lias
put him in practice again and, bar
ring injuries, in the next ten days
tlie Rep and Black machine should
be going at a great dip in the an
nual battle with the Alabama Polys.
It is tlie first Georgia-Auburn
HOLLENBACK SLATED TO
BE PENN'S HEAD COACH
PHILADELPHIA, Nov 22 Bill Hol
| lenbaek. former all-American fullback, is
slated to succeed Andy Smith as head
i each of the i’l iversity of Pennsylvania
| next year.
JAPANESE BILLIARDIST
WINNER IN PLAY-OFF
NEW YORK. Nov 2. Koiljl Yamada,
tlie .lapum >e cueist. inflated l ira Morn
ingstar. 500 to 21*9. ill the plttj-off for
third pl. - in the championship 18.2 balk
line billiard tourrament.
TIGERS WILL ELECT BAKER.
I'RINCET* >X. N. .1 . Nov. 22 ■Hubei ’’
B iker, tin Til;, r s wonderful halfback. is
stalls I for the captaincy of the La 13 eleven.
THE ATLANTA GEOHGIAN AND NEWS. FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 22, 1912.
Tlie Tech-Georgia game is over.
The preponderance of weight did
the trick, as I said it would do. But
the Georgia team played much the
best game it has played this sea
son. Just a point or two;
Tech had scored a clear touch
down when the Jacket runner
dropped the ball across Georgia’s
goal line. He did not drop it be
cause he was fiercely tackled, or
anything of that sbrt. Not a Geor
gia man was even touching him. It
was Just greenness. That's been
the way with the team all this
year—nervy, but nervous. Tech
had worked it up there and over,
not by any fluke or t>y one single,
long, break-out run. but by steady
driving, play after play, from their
own reception of the kick-off.
Tech’s play was worth that touch
down.
It is also a pity that & Tech man
was off-side when Georgia made a
last try at a touchdown in the sec
ond quarter. His being off-side af
fected the particular play not in the
slightest, for McWhorter was pulled
down by another Tech player from
behind hie interference, so that it
would have cut no figure whatever
whether the off-side man crumpled
this interference or not. In cases
where the particular foul plays no
part in the play as it transpired it
is no longer customary for officials
to call it (excepting unsportsmanly
play), and it would, in the particu
lar case in hand, have served the
ends of equity better not to have
called it, although the official was
undoubtedly within his rights in
doing so. But on the strict merits
of the playing at that time Georgia
should not have scored Just then.
In other words the score of the
game does not at all fairly express
or represent the game that Tech
put up. Instead of three touch
downs to none it should have been
two to one tn favor of Georgia; for
that is really the kind of game the
public witnessed.
Georgia is coming strong now
and Auburn will have to watch out
on Turkey day: the Athenians are
at last using their talent, and using
it well.
game ever played on the local grid
iron, and will draw thousands of
spectators to the Classic City.
In addition to the Georgia-Auburn
game in the afternoon, the title for
the state championship in prep
ranks will be decided in the fore
noon, when tile Georgia Military
college, of Milledgeville, meets
Riverside, from Gainesville. Both
of these teams are coached by
Georgia men, and neither has been
defeated this year.
In addition to this morning game,
there is also to be a road race run,
under the auspices of the track
team that is being reorganized at
Georgia now for work next spring.
The run will be for three miles out
Lumpkin Hill and around Milledge
avenue. There are already eighteen
men who are training, while fully
thirty will enter.
G. SMITH AND JACK TWIN
WRESTLE FOR 10 ROUNDS
BI’FFAIA), N. Y. Nov. 22. —Gunboat
Smith, the California heavyweight, and
Jack <Twin) Sullivan, fought ten rounds
last night at the Broadway annex.
M'CUR BEATS ANDREWS.
RACIN’I<. WIS,. Nov. 22 Freddie An
drews, the Milwaukee bantam weight,
was outgeneraled and outfought in a ten
round bout with Mattie McCue, of Racine,
here last nighu McCue was the aggres
sor and from the start landed telling
blows on his opponent, who was ready
for the referee to halt the bout when the
tinal gong sounded.
NAVY’S GOAT DIES.
ANN A POLIS, Nov. 22 Bill, for many
years the goat mascot of the Middies, is
dead. \n Angora cat will replace him in
the Arniy*Navy game November 30.
ENGLISH-NIOTTO
SCRAP MW END
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YOUNG MOTTO and Clarence
English hook up tonight at
the Dixie Athletic club in a
ten-round bout. At least that is
the way the advance notices read.
But both of the young mixers claim
that the affair will end long before
the tenth spasm. As both are good
husky gents, with a kick, it is not
unlikely that one or the other will
take the count.
Motto has been showing up sur
prisingly well in his work-outs and
he will have a big following at the
ringside tonight. English has al
ways given satisfaction here, his
fight with Jimmy Perry last spring
being the best bout ever staged in
Atlanta.
The semi-windup between Frank
Baker and George Lavelle should
be a bear. These two boys fought
six rounds to a draw the other
night and it was a pippin affair,
too. Tonight they are scheduled
to go eight rounds. The extra pair
of sessions should be enough to de
cide which is the better man.
Mike Saul and Clarence Collins
meet in a six-round bout. And
there will also be a battle royal.
YALE PLANS TO USE
SUBSAT START; SAVE
REGULARS FOR LAST
NEW HAVEN, CONN., Nov. 22.—With
both teams on edge and both eager for
the battle, only light signal drill was
scheduled for the Yale and Harvard
squads today, in preparation for their
annual gridiron clash, which takes place
on Yale field tomorrow.
The Harvard eleven, which is now quar
tered here, is brimming with confidence.
Odds of 10 to 6. and in some cases 10 to
5, are being offered. Coaches are well
pleased with the work of the team, and
with Brickley’s toe in excellent shape they
look for victory.
On the Yale campus, confidence is not
so pronounced. The team has shown
great improvement during the week, the
work of the linesmen has been perfected
and a number of trick plays have been
mastered.
Yale coaches have announced their in
tention of using the subs freely, figuring
that this will give the regulars a chancb
to rest up for the final quarter.
COBB BACK FROM TRIP
DOWN SAVANNAH RIVER
AUGUSTA, GA.. Nov. 22—Ty Cobb
and a party of friends returned today
from a trip down the Savannah river,
where they have been hunting for sev
eral days.
The baseball star says that the game
in the Savannah swamps is not as
plentiful as it was last year, although
Tyrus and party bagged a large number
of squirrels anil ducks.
Ty is having an easy time and en
joying life. He is not worrying about
coming to terms with President Navin,
for should Ty decide not to play ball
any more he will be in fine condition
for the remainder of his life, so far as
this world’s goods are concerned. Ty
is probably worth SIOO,OOO, and Mrs.
Cobb’s father is worth nearly $1,000,000.
ROURKE OF OMAHA NOT
IN FAVOR OF OUTLAWS
OMAHA. NEBR.. Nov. 22. William
Rourke, president of the Omaha base
ball club, said today that he -is opposed
to the formation of an "outlaw" league.
"I am in full accord with President
O’Neill.” said Rourke. "I do not see
how such a league would be a financial
success."
CHAMPIONSHIP EMBLEMS
LOST HERE BY DERRICK
Claud Derrick is shy two world’s
championship medals, a couple of half
carat diamonds, a pocketbook and a tew
such tilings, as a result of his trip to
tlie Tech-Georgia game.
Whether he was "frisked" or whether
he dropped the junk, lie does not know,
but lie fears the worst To be on the safe
side, lie lias offered a reward. The finder
should notify him at Clayton. Ga.
TIGER TEAM BANQUETED.
NEW YORK, Nov 22.—The Princeton
alumni will give a banquet at the Mar
tinique hotel tonight in honor of the 11*12
Tiger eleven.
Betting Is That Vandy Wins By Two Touchdowns
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Commodores May Be Ripe For a Trimming Now
By Percy H. Whiting.
rTXHK betting on the Vanderbilt
; Auburn game here in Atlan
ta ssems to be that Vander
bilt will (or will not, depending on
which end you take) beat Auburn
by two touchdowns.
And it’s brisk.
Apparently it is all a question of
how many of Vanderbilt's men are
out of the game because of injuries
and what sort “of condition those
who do play are in.
TT will be recalled that the only
1 time Vanderbilt ever lost a game
to a Southern team conditions had
framed themselves much like this.
The Commodores had made their
season for a big game tn mid
season (with Michigan, if our
memory serves). Several of the
men were injured in this game and
most of the rest went stale. Then
when the game with Sewanee came
the Commodores didn’t have the
punch.
A good deal the same thing has
happened now. The Commodores
tried to get fit for the Harvard
game. They didn’t work it, how
ever. But at that they got in the
best condition of the season. In
the Harvard game several of the
men were injured and the brightest
star of them all, Hardage, was so
badly hurt he may not be himself
again this season. Since then sev-
French Boxing Authorities to
Give Billy Papke Diamond Belt
By Ed. W. Smith.
THE French boxing authorities
are about to present Billy
Papke, of Kevranee, 111., with
a gold and diamond belt, suitably
inscribed with the words “Cham
pion of the World.” Wouldn’t that
be enough to send the other Amer
ican fighters off into a towering
rage?
We think it will and we imagine
further that there will be many a
strong letter of protest sent out
from this side of the Atlantic as to
what right, etc., etc., etc.
But, believe us, Papke and his
manager, Al Lippe, are making the
most of a nice situation in Paris
and are frying the fat out of the
occasion and doing a neat job of it.
Other countries may- storm and rage
and say- that the French, who never
had a world's champion fighter and
who have been in the boxing game
but a matter of a few- months, have
no right to do this, the fact re
mains that it is to be done.
Papke Beats Champions,
Papke knocked out Jim Sullivan,
the champion of England, a short
time ago, and followed this up by
knocking, out the French idol,
Georges Carpentier, or making him
quit, which is about the same thing.
That was enough for the French,
and the belt is now in the hands of
a jeweler and will be finished early
next month for presentation to
William when he boxes the next
time in France.
This news goes to show that we
were misled by the reports from the
other side to the effect that Papke
was extremely- unpopular over
there and might be ruled out alto
gether. Evidently the French are
not as unfair as that
Klaus Declines Match.
Incidentaly. Erank Klaus is not
going to box Papke next month in
Paris. That news is contained in a
letter from Lippe. who, after tell
ing us all about the big belt, goes
on to say:
"More tough luck tor us. Klaus
has refused point-blank to fight
Papke here. Everything was all
light until yesterday, when it was
time to post a forfeit. Neither
eral men seem to have gone stale.
And the consequence is Vander
bilt faces a hard game with a
strong team in no good condition
for the test.
Unless Vanderbilt utterly out
classes Auburn—which nobody
really believes —the game should be
close. It wouldn't be utterly flab
bergasting if Auburn got away
with it. The truth is that, though
the Commodores have lost but one
game in the South under McGu
gin's coaching, they have had some
clo,se calls. In another game it
took a miracle in the shape of a
forward pass of gigantic propor
tions to get the Commodores
through alive. They CAN lose.
Maybe this Isn’t the time, but, of
course, their number will eventual
ly be taken. Possibly Saturday is
the eventful occasion.
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ttP here we get in the way of
thinking that Vanderbilt, Au
burn, Georgia Tech, Sewanee,
Clemson, Alabama and the two
Mlssissippis are about the only col
leges in the S. I. A. A. But they
aren’t. Not quite. Witness this
from Kenneth Todd, formerly of
Macon, but now of Houston, a sport
writer of just renown:
“Here is a tip worth something,
perhaps, in summing up later on.
"Texas A. & M., z located at Col
lege Station, Texas, is a member of
Klaus nor Engle, his manager,
showed up and didn't even send an
apology. They were offered $3,500
for a losing and $5,000 for a win
ning fight, exceptionally good terms
over here. The papers here are
roasting Klaus terribly, and he may
yet be shamed into the bout. But
1 know,, he doesn’t want it.
Big Bouts in Sight.
“In the meantime they have given
Papke a match with Dennis Ber
nard, the French boy who lately
defeated George Gunther, the
American colored middleweight,
over here. The bout is set for De
cember 20 and surely will draw
well. They- are trying to get some
body for Bill for January- and Feb
ruary- dp-tes. Moreau and Carpen
tier box January- 15 for the French
title and Papke will get the win
ner in February at Monte Carlo.
The lesser fights net us $4,000 los
ing and $5,000 winning, but the
Monte Carlo match will double
those figures, I'm sure.
“Papke boxes in Paris December
4. so I had to cancel a lot of Eng
lish music hall time at $650 a week.
But we will get eight weeks of it
at least later on.
Wants to Box McGoorty.
"What's, the matter with Eddie
McGoorty coming over here to box
Bill? He could get more money
here than he could’in America, and
tile trip surely would pay him well,
fhey are talking about making
Mike Gibbons an offer, but are
waiting to see how he comes out
with Eddie.
'We would like to catch Mc-
Goorty for a side wager, as we feel
confident of trimming him."
NEAR-BREAK OF NECK
DOES NOT PROVE FATAL
ALMA. MICH., Nov. 32. —lnstead of
having sustained a broken neck in last
Saturday's football game, as was re
ported. Captain Johnson, of the Mina col
lege eleven, escaped with a fev. braised
ligaments. He was able *<klu\ to v aik
about the campus unaided.
RUTT ENTERS SIX-DAY RACE.
NEW YORK. Nov. 22.- Walter Rutt,
German cycling champion, is the ninth
European to enter the slx-day bike race
that starts here December 9.
the S. I. A. A. She was not a
member last year, but during the
season of 1911 defeated Auburn:
Texas varsity also won from Au
burn. Unfortunately, Texas A. &
M. does not meet Auburn this fall;
neither does Texas varsity.
“Texas A. & M. defeated Hugo
Bezdek’s Arkansas eleven, 27 to 0.
in Dallas.
“Last fall Texas varsity won
from Texas A. & M„ but lost to
Oklahoma. This season Oklahoma
has won from Texas varsity, 21 to
6; so the really big game left for
these parts was A. & M. and Okla
homa.
“Last year Oklahoma was South
western champions by virtue of
having easily disposed of teams
that crushed Auburn.
“You would appreciate seeing
the A. & M. team in action.”
O UR suggestions for a change in
schedules of Georgia football
teams has drawn a response from
Cole Morgan, a student alike of
football situation and of sched
ules in general. He offers two
“ideal schedules,” and then gives
his reasons for the selection. Say-
Mr. Morgan:
Tech Schedule.
t0,, . e . r —Tennessee in Knox
ville _ (National Conservation ex
position period).
October 11—Chattanooga in At
lanta.
October 18—Mercer in Macon
(Georgia State fair week).
October 22—Auburn in Mont
gomery (Alabama State fair
week).
October 25—Sewanee in Atlanta
November I—South Carolina in
Columbia.
November B—Clemson in At-
November 15—Vanderbilt in
Nashville.
November 22—Alabama in At
lanta.
November 27—Georgia in At
lanta (Thanksgiving day).
Georgia Schedule.
4 —Chattanooga in
v nattanooga.
October 11 —Tennessee in Alli
ens.
October 15—Mercer in Macon
(Georgia State fair week).
October 18—Clemson in Athens.
October 25—Alabama in Tus
caloosa or Birmingham.
November I—Vanderbilt in At
lanta.
November B—South Carolina in
Augusta (Georgia-Carolina fair
week).
November 15—Auburn in At-
November 22—Sewanee in Ath
ens.
November 27—Tech in Atlanta
(Thanksgiving day).
REASONS.
Tech and Georgia would play
the same teams, thereby giving an
opportunity accurately to measure
their respective points of supe
riority.
Each team would play an equal
number of games before meeting
each other.
They would be pitted against
the five best teams in the South
—Vanderbilt, Sewanee, Auburn.
Alabama and Clemson.
Atlanta fans would get to -if
, six stellar games, besides one of
lesser importance.
Tech would have five of its ten
games in Atlanta.
Georgia would have three of its
ten in Atlanta and three in Ath
ens.
Atlanta fans would see six
teams, besides Tech and Georgia,
tn action here, but no team would
appear here more than once, ex
cept Tech and Georgia
Atlanta is the best paying fo< -
ball city in the South and is en
titled to see the best games that
Tech and Georgia play
There is no conflict of dates b- •
tween the Tech and Georgia
schedules, and after the Tennes
see, Chattanooga and Mercer < a
tests, there woulif be Intervals J
two weeks or more (except wi
the Carolina games) between tla
dates Tech and Georgia would
meet any' one of the outside
teams.
Most important of all- Tee ai. 1
Georgia would play in Atlanta ■
Thanksgiving ii;n and brine
s ‘.son to a climax with th" <'M
BIG event of the Atlanta football
season.
txrHILE all the shouting is ■' ’
height over the Van’A - >
burn and the Georgia-A 'burn
games, don't let’s forget ti:-< t
Tech-t’lemson game will be '
as interesting a struggle as the s
son lias furnished. It will be
meeting of two light teams,
teams that tire uueunny last’ '■
yond any doubt. Tech and 1 - '
<on art the shiftiest. triel"
teams of the Southland. They
play rare ball on Thanksgb ii-8
day.