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FROM Virginia comes the report thnt the University of Vir ginia and the University of Georgia are on the edge of signing a contract for tw-- games of foot ball. the Hist to be played either at Richmond or Charlottesville next . fall and the next one to be played in Georgia and presumably nt At ' lanta. «’j Over at Charlottesville they seem f ’ to think that the thing is all ar -7 ranged, and maybe ft Is, though v- Georgia hasn’t hail much to say about it. Virginia wanted two games in what Richmond papers refer to as •’the South.” in order that two might be played on the trip that brings Virginia into this section of the country. Next year it Is Van derbilt's turn to go to Virginia, bo If Georgia signs, ft will have to do » likewise. This will mean that the “ following year the Virginia team will do the traveling, and It is only reasonable to suppose that the game will be played in Atlanta. * • • 'P HE Tech teams naturally have t ' first call on Atlanta. The Yellow ■ Jackets arc entitled to preference ' In dates. But it Is hoped by local I. fans that Georgia or some other college will take advantage of the open dates in Atlanta, in order that there may bo football in At % lant every Saturday of the next I football season. In the season just I passed, there were several open dates, when the Tech team was on . the road. It is a shame that this should happen. Atlanta is a cork ing football town, and should have plenty of games. Also it Is a city turns out strong for a good football game, and any first-class here is a sure money maker. » » • ONE of the interesting features of the football season which so re f ecHtly closed was the timing by Dr. ? C. J*. Hutchins, director of physical ' training at Indiana university, of » the actual play in a football game I His figures showed that there was ■' actual play in pixtgress in but 13 minutes and 16 seconds of.a game 1 that went four full 15-mlnute quar ters. It has been so often charged against football that it was a game too exhausting on its participants The tact that the men play only a bit over three minutes of each 15- mlnute quarter makes it unlikely that a-ny mtui In good physical con- CHARLOTTE'Y. M. C. A. WILL PLAY CLUB FIVE riiHE Atlanta Athletic club and I the Charlotte Y. M. C. A. teams will stack up against each other tonight on the A A. C. floor. The local team hud its final in .-■tructions a- Frida) night's practice* anti is only waiting for the referee’s • Wllisth to Start tile festivities. * The Charlotte players hav< al ways shown up well in Atlanta and made the local quintet tak« their V medicine two years ago by handing J. them a defeat pill, it was a bitter I ,v one, too, and the local players will c go into th* battle as earnestly as though the fate of the universt de pended upon the outeonn . Jim Harrison will he mi-sing from the A. A. C team at guard I on account of a bad knee. "Pie' 1 > i FOR SAW. Farm one-fourth as large and tly-e times as good as ti c one 'ou ' are tolling on hack H.-s‘ Take advan- ■ **F» . >.< i. •: ~i t f av . r Th* -blnth Anniver.sart edition of Ti e ia>s tr se'e.s Kxat mer. out December 25. will tell . yon how this car. 1< Mailed t r.' ad- ! dress In I'tdted Sta , ■ . r Mexico 15 gents. MSMda . reign ■i t« •: cents Send ’ yom order now 10-21-4 • dition will exhaust himself with the exercise. 'T’HE Carlisle Indians are planning next year to make a considera ble study of Canadian football, and expect to play at least one game In Canada next year, under the Cana dian rules. It will be remembered that the season just passed Carlisle played a picked team in Canada, half the game nt American college football and half at Canadian Rug by. The Carlisle players won at both styles of game. Hut both teams are determined to go more care fully into the new style of play, and to try conclusions next fall. Coach Glenn Warner, of the In dians, made a careful study of the game in Canada and arrived at the following conclusions about It: In the Canadian game the diffi culty of gaining ground consis tently Is so great that possession of the ball Is not at all impor tant, and, consequently, the Canadian players can take all sorts of chances to pull off a long run. since they are sure that if they lose the ball it will be only a matter of a sow plays until they again have possession of it, whereas In the American inter collegiate game, possession of the ball is so important that the tendency Is io adopt only such methods in advancing the ball as are reasonably sure not to lose any ground and on which there Is little danger of fumbling. The. game between Carlisle and the Canadians proved conclusively that tackling and defensive tactics have been more highly developed, in the states than in Canada, since the Canadians were unable to gain ground - consistently against the American defense It Is true that occasionally they pulled off runs of from 15 to 30 yards by means of their long side passes, but it is also true that these tactics resulted in a loss of ground to the Canadians more of ten than they succeeded, and, therefore, it was proved to my sat isfaction that such plays, al though played by masters of the art of passing and handling the ball, are too uncertain and danger ous to be of any advantage to our own college teams In the Canadian rugby game any kicked ball which goes over the opponents' goal line and is downed there, and which would be called a touchback In Our ' game. Is called a "rouge,” and counts one point. "This method of scoring. ' savs Warner, "might have been adopt ed with advantage to our game last year, when there was such a complaint against the difficulty of gaining ground and consequent!) so many scoreloss games. Instead of increasing the number of Weaver, who played such n bear cat game last Saturday night, will Ham with Carter as the other guard. Hubard will be on the Job at center and Forbes and Willing ham Smith will star at shooting ■the baskets. The probable line-up: Atlanta A. C. E. Smith. IfCrowell, if. T. Forbes i fE. Stewart, if. Hubard, c Iverett. c. Carter leapt.>, rg, Page (vapt.i. lg. Weaver, Ig . Andrews. W Stewart, rg Y. M. C. A. OF COLUMBUS TOYS WITH CHARLOTTE I > ILV.UBVS. GA.. Dee 14.—-The Co lumbus V M A basket ball team defeated the Charlotte Y. M. C. A. team last night bv the score of 82 to 14. The gam< was the fastest seen here. Although the game appears to be a v. a lit-over, ti e I'l'ai ate team revealed an ability at tl, game that should have resulted In a better score. T ■ gaii ■ " - demonstration of t ■ go;< .-hooting by th< Columbus > d X The lo al players frequent ly ti it g. tl- •, ith opposing player:. hanging on tliei nec' - THE ATLANTA GEORGIAN AND NEWS. SATURDAY. DEC EMBER 14. 1912. x downs to four in order to obviate this difficulty. Such a change would have added to the scoring ability of our teams without In creasing the number of downs In which to gain ten yards and it also would have tended to keep the game more open than It is proving to be this year under the four-down rule ’ How the Famous American and National League Shortstops Compare BONUS WACiNER HAS SLIGHT EDGE ON HEINE WAGNER By Sam Crane. HON lISlIS and Heine, the first names, but Wagner the last, are familiar wherever base ball is discussed. And Honus and Heine are teaming together as two of the greatest stars of the game, past, present and maybe future. Honus shortstops In the National league for the Pittsburg Pirates, and Heine shortstops in the Amer ican league for the Boston Red Sox. each Ju such a fashion that he has no superiors In the winter time the ball fan must be supplied with something for conversation, and the figures of Honus and Heine in their past form an interesting dope yam. But who is the star between Ho nus and Heine? Any major league manager would offer a fortune for either. Honus Wagner a Veteran. If the point of service were con sidered, Hana would be picked at the first moment, but when one considers who will be playing the longer It Is almost certain that Heine would be picked, although the aged veteran of the Pirates seems to be one ball player who can go on forever without losing any of his agility. He is, year in and year out. the same old demon, with the bat and also In the field. When Hans Wagner quits play ing. the pastime will lose one of its brightest lights, and one player who has beet) connected with the game for over sixteen years. Hans start ed his career with a major league club in 1897. with Louisville. Three years later he went to the Pirates, and has been there ever since. Heine first became connected with the Red Sox In 1907, and has been starring annually. Honus Has Great Average. Hans has been a terrific slug- ■ ger from his very first day, and his first year with the Pirates—l9oo — led the National league with a .380 average, which was compiled in 134 contests And for thirteen •years he has hit better than .300, with a complete grand average of .359 for 1,820 games. Heine has not been so harsh with the stick. The best mark he lias compiled since becoming a mem ber of the Red Sox was .274. which he owned during the season just closed. While Hatts has a grand aver age of .359 for 13 years of service in the National league, Heine has compiled an average of only .255. so if can be seen that Hans has over 100 points on his opponent In this respect and that after being in the big league ranks seven years longer. . So now it can not lit doubted • that Hans has the better of the ar gument when batting is considered. , In base stealing the bold Pirate i also has a long lead, in 13 years • he has pilfered 555 sacks, an av erage of more than 42 for each sea son, while his namesake has swiped . only 120, or 20 per season. The two ate about even up on snerilic hitting. Heine Second in Fielding. Haling the lead in these two branches is not all that Hans '-ws. i •BRESNAHAN TO PLAY; •VAUDEVILLE ’TIL THE; : BALL SQUABBLE ENDS J • NEW YORK, Dee. 14.—Roger • • Bresnahan, deposed manager of • • the St. Louis Cardinals, says he • • will accept a nice offer and go on • • the stage during the winter • • months. He announced today that • • he would not accept any of the • • several baseball jobs offered him • • until his claim against the St. • • Louis club was straightened out. • • • •••••••••••••••••••••••••a HOW THE WAGNERS LOOK IN FIGURES Hans Wagner. BATTING. Year. G. AB. R, H. SH. SB. Ave. 1900.. 528 107 201 9 36 .380 1901 ...141 556 100 196 10 48 .352 1902 ...137 538 105 177 8 43 .329 1903 ...129 512 97 182 8 46 .355 1904 ...132 490 97 171 5 53 .349 1905 ...147 548 114 199 7 57 .363 1906 ...140 516 103 175 6 53 .339 1907 ...142 515 98 180 14 61 .350 1908 ...151 568 100 201 14 53 .354 1909 ...137 495 92 168 27 35 .339 1910 ...160 556 90 178 20 24 .320 1911 ...130 473 87 158 12 20 .334 1912 ...145 558 91 181 11 26 .324 Tot’l .1,820 6,853 1.381 2,467 151 555 .359 Heine Wagner. Year. G. AB. R. H. SH. SB. Ave. 1907.. 385 29 82 11 20 .212 1908 ...153 526 62 130 21 20 .247 1909 .. .124 430 51 110 9 18 .256 1910 ...142 491 61 134 20 26 .273 1911 .. . 80 261 34 67 6 15 .257 1912 ...144 504 75 138 14 21 .274 Total .754 2,597 312 661 81 120 .256 FIELDING. Hans Wagner. Chances Per Year. G. PO. A. E. P.C. G. 1900, R. F. .117 117 13 6 .969 1.7 1901, S. S. . 61 177 226 35 .920 7.2 1901, R. F. . o 4 83 2 2 .977 1.6 1902, S. S. . 45 89 146 29 .890 5.9 1902, Ist. B. 31 316 41 4 .988 11.6 1902, R. F. . 59 121 11 1 .992 2.3 1903, S. S. .11l 303 397 50 .933 6.9 1904, S. S. .121 274 367 49 .920 5.7 1905, S. S. .145 353 517 60 .935 6.4 1906, S. S. .137 334 473 51 .941 6.3 1907, S. S. .138 314 428 49 .938 5.7 1908, S. S. .151 354 469 50 .943 5.8 1909, S. S. .136 344 430 49 .940 6.1 1910, S. S. .137 337 413 52 .935 5.8 1911 . . . .101 221 312 39 .932 5 7 1912 . . . .143 341 462 32 .965 5.8 Totals. .1,687 4,138 4,807 558 .942 5.7 Heinie Wagner. Chances Per Year. G. PO. A. E. P.C. G 1907 . . . .109 283 387 50 .981 6.6 1908 . . . .153 373 569 61 .932 5.9 1909 . . . .123 282 413 50 .933 6.1 1910 ... .140 303 424 57 .927 5.6 1911 .... 32 75 94 26 .867 6.2 1911, 2d 8... 40 106 106 12 .946 5 6 1912 . . . .144 332 391 61 .922 5.4 Total* . 741 1,754 2,334 317 929 3.0 He Is the star fielder of the two, although no one will deny that Heine Is also there when It comes to picking up the mean bounders. They both are stars when it comes to tagging a runner; blocking ’em off second base, but figures show that Hans owns the better grand average. In 13 years of service the "Fly ing Dutchman” has handled almost 10,000 chances, anil owns an aver age of .942. which really is remark able. considering that lie has play ed short, second and the outfield Heine has compiled a grand aver age of .929 In the six years he has been with the Red Sox. Hans played 61 games at short You will find that druggists every where speak well of Chamberlain's i ouitli Remedy. They know from long •xperi-nce In the sale of tt that in cases of coughs and colds it can alwavs be depended upon. mid Hiat It is pleas ant mid safe to take, sj* i,,- H y tie err I Ami t ) Chattanooga Newspaper Men Stood for Bunk Fight Refused to Expose the Morris-Williams Fiasco By W. S. Farnsworth. AFTER having thoroughly in vestigated the fight be tween Carl Morris and Jack Keating. the Oklahoma giant’s sparring partner, In Chattanooga the first of the week, I have found out that situation in 1901 and handled 7.2 chances per game, while In 1903, in 111 contests. 1 he averaged 6.9. For the 13 years he has averaged 5.7 chances for each game. Heine In six years has averaged six chances per game, with his best year. 1907, when he tackled an average of 6.6 In each ’ of 109 games. I DERRICK AT SHORT, M’MILLAN AT 2D FOR YANKS NEXT YEAR ' NEW YORK. Dec. 14—Now that John 1 McGraw has waived on Frank Chance there seems nothing to stand in his way 1 and he will soon become a member of the Highland team, and its manager And ' already the dopesters are beginning to figure on the Yankee team for 1913. Tommy McMillan, who came out of the International league during the latter part of last season. Is believed by a num ber of the Highland players to be a bet ' ter second baseman than he is a short ' stop. Now, what do you think of that? The same players also think that when the new manager gets a look at Derricks playing short, they will never get him out of that position. Connie Mack has said that short seems to be the best place for Derrick. “He. has that long reach and can go either way , after the ball, and 1 think he would be better there than any other place In the infield, although he has played all the positions," said Connie. "I am under the ; Impression that when the New York club Is at work and they learn how Derrick ; can take care of that job he will be named for that position In the line-up for the i opening game." Although McMillan did great work at short, the Yankees right now are kind of ; lost for a second baseman. Tommy ■ might be good at that corner. He has . played short most of the time, but has had to work out at second base several times, and there is no doubt that lie can ' take care of that job. But the dope seems to be that Derrick is the man for short, i and that the Yankees will have no trou . ble filling that position. JORDANWANTED TO~PLAY FIRST BASE FOR BRAVES BALTIMORE, Dec. 14. —President : Gaffney and Manager Stallings are hot ’ on the trail of Tim Jordan, whom they . hope to secure to play first for the I Braves. ’ Jordan is now in Toronto. *He would '. have been back in the big league last ’ season if it had not been for the re fusal of the Brooklyn club to allow the j Pirates to get him. Jordan is not a ’ brilliant fieider, but he is one of the ■ best hitting first basemen in the coun try, and it will boom the Braves stock a whole lot If Gaffney can land him. Jordan is not anxious to go to Boston, as he prefers Pittsburg, but a player’s objections are easily removed. Manager Stallings is anxiously await ing word from Campbell, to whom lie wrote several days ago. It is said on pretty good authority that the St. Louis man is in earnest in his determination to quit baseball and Stallings is eager to hear from him before he goes through with some of the deals he has in mind. EPPA RIXEY GETS $5,000 OR JOINS HOLDOUT CREW CHARLOTTESVILI-E, VA, Dec. 14 Eppa Hixey, who made good with the Phil lies last season, may be among the hold outs ere long. Hixey does not propose to report tn the Phillies next spring unless the club makes good a promise made him ■ when he joined the team. Hixey. it is said, claims that he was given to'under stand that if he made good with the team ' he Mould be tendered a 45.000 contract for : next season. He claims that the club has i balked on this figure, an.l that he prn , poses to remain nt h one unless it Is car ried out. Rixey un ioubtedlv made good with the Phillies He pitched tfii winning games, lost ini are t ), v rescue act i three games. was as follows: Morris may or may not have known before leaving Atlanta that he was going to fight his sparring partner. On the morning of the fight he did know that he was go ing to meet Keating. He and his manager both told Chattanooga fight fans that Keating had been his sparring partner. Morris want ed it announced from the ring that Williams was no other than Keat ing. But the club refused to do so. Then Morris and his manager went I to the newspaper men and told them who Williams really was. But the newspaper men, at any rate one of them, said he would not make the announcement, as besides being sporting editor he was one of the owners of the club. And he had rather bunk his readers than to knock the show and thereby lose a few dollars that would come through the gate. A fine situation! No wonder the fight fans of the South have been forced to put up with fakes, bunks and fiascos. When a sporting editor refuses to tell his readers the truth ! to gain for himself a few extra dol . laris, It’s time that he resigned his position. • • • YX7 HILE this may not give Mor *’ ris an entirely clean bill, it ! really shouldn’t bar him from fight ing. I had a long talk with Mor ' ris yesterday and he seems to feel , very badly about the suspicion that has been cast on him. "As soon as I found out that I was to fight Keating I asked the club promoters to call off the match," said Carl. “They refused to do it. I couldn’t sidestep, or Chattanooga fans would have said I was afraid of Williams. So I i went on and gave him a terrible beating. When I got through with him his face was cut to ribbons, and I don’t believe lie will be able . to fight again for many weeks." A T ORRIS was willing to call oft' ’ ■’’■‘his fight with Al Kubiak here Tuesday night. But after having investigated the Chattanooga case I advised him to go through with Kubiak and vindicate himself. Kubiak and Morris will cut Tues . day night's gate 75 and 25. There i doesn't seem to be a chance in the [ world that the men have an “un ; demanding.” Morris will be a dead . one forever if there is any fake * h.p., Single Cylinder, S2OO. ; The CyL J* 7 h.p., Twin Cylinder, $250. X&X v Prices f.o.b. 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He knows that, and I look for him to fight at his best. Kubiak has always contended that Morris was made for him. in fact, Al claims that twice .Morris ran out on him. and he would have fought winner-take-all had not the promoters thought it best to cut the purse 75 and 25. "A winner-take-all basis sounds suspicious,” said Promoter Norton this morning. “The fans always I think that a fake is coming oft when it is announced that the mon ey will all go to the winner, so I induced the men to split 75 per >.<nt to the winner and 25 to the loser." BROOKLYN TURNS MILLER OVER TO NASHVILLE CLUB NASHVILLE, TENN,, Dec. 14. - Through the working agreement thnt exists between Nashville and the Brooklyn clubs, Otto Miller will b turned over to the Volunteers next sea son. Miller is one of the first string catchers for the Dodgers, but such great baekstoppers as Erwin and Phelps will just about crowd Otto off Ebbetts’ pay roll. Miller will fill the shoes of one Rowdy Elliott and it goes without saying that he will not have any great big task do ing it. Otto ought to perform wonders for Nashville, as he is possessed of a great amount of gray matter and can teach the young pitchers many a trick of inside baseball. Otto Is rather a handy man with the hickory, pasting the pellet last se.i.-on in close to a hundred games for an average of .278, which will, no doubt, make him an object of respect to th Southern league slubmen. Otto isn’t very enthusiastic over the pay check Hirsig has offered him and has entered a vigorous protest, but this difference will no doubt be adjusted ■ time for the spring training. WESLEY MEMORIAL AND A. A. C. TEAMS WINNERS The referees’ whistles at the Armory and Y, M. C. A. courts last night sent four teams on their way in the thin season of the Atlanta Basket Ila! league. The visiting teams were vic tors in both instances. The Wesley Memorial laris took the Fifth Regiment into camp, 31 to 30, while the Atlanta Athletic club won a hard fought game from the plucky Y. M. C. A. quintet. CARPENTER COMES BACK. Umpire “Billy” Carpenter, who leT the Southern league last season to go to the International, will be seen on the Southern diamonds again next sea son.