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TOUGH FOR HIE,
15 FLVNN
l>\ Ed. W. Smith.
gang's too “tough anil
| too big for me. Guess I’ll
have to content myself with
beating up some smallei ones once
tn a while."
This was the wax Jim Flynn, of
Pueblo. Colo., passed up the Lu
tite) McCarty* and the Al Palzei
end the Jess Willards of the heavy,
weight class the other day when In
was in Chicago. Jim sat down with
me for a half hour in between
trains and chatted over the situa
tions past and present and inci
dentally to make plain to me his
future pliins.
"After 1 had trimmed Al Kauf
man and Carl Morris and Charley
Miller. I figured that the old horse
was just as good as ever and that
none of the big fellows had a thing
on*me," Jim remarked a trifle sad
ly. “McCarty, a raw hand, didn’t
look any tougher than old stagers,
but I reckoned entirelx wrong, it
now appears to me.
"Flynn's as good as he ever was,
and the same old heart is there—
you can bet a whole lot on that.
Rut —and that', a big BUT this
time—those kids that are springing
op are a lot better than I figured
th ay were.
Jim Has No Kick.
"Why, this fellow McCarty is so
big and so long and so tough and
so strong that, try as I would. 1
couldn’t reach him at all. He sim
ply held me off with that long left
of his and whaled the life out of me,
using a long right and an uppercut
that murdered me. Os course, lam
dissatisfied always when one of my
fights Is stopped with me on my
feet. But I guess In this case it
was nil right.
"Remember in Las Vegas that I
felt the same way about it when I
boxed Johnson? Just because 1
might bleed a little or something
like that is no sign that I am being
killed. T always have a chance and
have won some of my toughest bat
tles after being apparently out
classed at the start.
Going to Fight Some More.
“No, I'm not out of tluj fighting
aame. Tom MoCawy hes promised
to get a man of more reasonable
size for me ths next time, because I
made a hit in the McCarty fight. It
was nothing to be ashamed of, a
defeat like that. Fm told, iro I am
resting content ’’
Flynn Is now in the East resting
up for a few weeks. After he fully
recovers from the grind of training
-he has had two long tough tights in
■he last two months—he will bi
ready for any of them and would
like to get on on the coast with
such men as Gunboat Smith. Frank
Moran and others ot the smaller
heavies.
JUD M'TIGUE FOLLOWS
EXAMPLE OF H. PERDUE
NASHVILLE, TENN. Dec. 27 -
When Hub Purdue tori- up his Bo«ton
uniform last season and "got by” with
his demand for a major league sal
ary, bis ex." tup- - mubtles* inspired
others to go and do liki xvisi In anx
event. Jud MiTigW local product, a
tiienm-:■ of the ‘-tune outfit, has followed
in Hub's footn■ at hast as far as
refusing to play major league ball fol a
minor leugut salary is concerned.
MeTigiu i- -p tiding the winter lure
with home folk and with the Into addi
’ion to the M Tigui family circles in
tin- form of a New- England bride with
whoni he tan awttx and married be
tween games in tile late summer, and
says ho ha« pis Boston contract, but It
•' in lit.- pocket unsigned and will so
continu-. unless there is something more
added In wax- of compensation for 1913
-Mai Hat- that he rialtzcs that lie i«
rm < bri tx M«tl-< uson or Nap Km k< r
as yet, hut that .i.Ui th,, monex of-
Dixie League Has Had But Four
Real Managers Since Beginning;
Smith, Frank, Finn, Molesworth i
I
By Percy 11. Whiting.
rTX HIS has been a big winter of
I managers. They have occu
pied ten times as much space
in the paper-- as the players. And
the question lias arisen, "Do the
managers or th< player imilo the
team
Both, of course.
And. equally of .nurse, .1 good
manager gathers togefliei good
players.
But suppose there was a good
manager with a good team and a
txior manager with a good team,
which combination would win the
more games?
An interesting sidelight is thrown
on this dark problem by the fact
that you frequently hear a good
manager say. “If 1 had a pitcher
and an outfielder (for instance),
I'd win a pennant.”
But you never heard u good hall
player say, “If we had a good man
ager, we'd win a pennant,” which
doesn't prove anything, of course,
but is suggestive.
a N oltieial of a big leagie club
said last summer. “There aren't
but a half-dozen big league man
agers, anyway—Connie Mack. John
McGraw, Frank Chance. Fred
Clarke, Hugh Jennings, and maybe
one or two others."
In the Southern league, going
back through the dozen years of its
history, one is si ruck with the fact
that it has had but very few real
managers
v Think it over. What real top
notchers £ave been in the league.'
Bill Smith, of course, to begin at
home. Then there have been
Charley Frank, Carleton Moles
worth, Mike Finn 1
“Go on. go on.” you say But
where to?
John Dobbs. Bill Bernhard and
Bill Schwartz are in the doubtful
class. We are inclined to believe
that they arc real managers. Tile
trouble is that all of them have
been handicapped by not having
had enough money to spend for
players. Given an oven break with
the rest, they would perhaps have
ranked with the best. All three
seem to possess qualities of lead
ership, along with a knowledge of
ball players and of baseball.
Four top notch managers and
three uncertainties in twelve years.
Verily a slim showing.
• » •
rp HEN look at the failin’.*-: Right
* here In Atlanta last year then
were two *J?hailey Hemphill and
Charley Alperntan. Both were fa
ntous ex-big league players, yet
neit her proved a manager. Then
go on back through the Southern
league list. Dale Gear. Lew Whis
tler Ike Durrett. “Chief'' Zimmer.
.1 O’Connor. Dominick Mullaney.
Bob Gilks. Ed Greminger. “Duckey
Holmes. “Swats" Swaeina, George
Read, J. Ryan, Tom Fisher. "Count'’
Campeau, Ed Peters and Ed Pabst.
No need to go further.
Dale Gear hats since made a sue
cess of managing, and it is likely
that bis Southern league record
suffered because of his lack of ex
perience. Lew Whistler i\a- han
dicapped by a wife with enough
money that working wasn’t neee«
s try. Bob Gilks was almost a suc
cess. but somehow couldn’t seem to
multi it. He failed to inspire Ids
men. A lot that need not be men
tioned were ruined by drink. Sev
eral lacked aggressiveness—notably
Ed Greminger. Some had too much
like "Dorn” Mullaney. Some
failed to advance swiftly enough
to kerb pace with the league foi
in-t.im . Newt Fisher. who won
tin Hi st tvi> ■enmints and thep
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THE ATTANTA GEORGIAN AND NEWS. FRIDAY. DE( EMBER 2T. 1912.
some mysterious reason—good men
like Tom Fisher and Charley Babb.
* « *
IVUEN you study the "Big Four" I
the Southern leagut managers,
you do not wonder that nobody
offhand flas ever been aide to
“pick" good managers from raw
material with any degree of ci r
tulnty.
Charley Frank, the champion
malinger of Hie league, in the, point
of continued spccess. fs a fmsky.
chunky, foxy Dutchman, tie is a
convivial eliap, fond of high living,
fond ol amnsemyiits, secretive,
scheming, given to keeping his own
council, not keen about active man
agement from the bench, not over
popular with his men. not given to
making presents or .jollying along
his plavers.
< ontrast this man with Bill
Smith. Bill is a small, active,
nervous man. He is not given to
conviviality, is u man of exem
plary habits, has no amusements
savi baseball, is no schemer, but
rather a man of quick, sure judg-'
meat, anil a num who makes l|is
plans us he goes along. He is no
loose talker, but believes in giving
out all facts that will interest the
public, so long as his team is not
hurt by it. Smith manages from
tlie bench, directing every move on
tue field that he can possibly- con
trol He is the kind of a McGraw
manager, who thinks for his club.
Smith is u great believer in to
warding his players, and has given
1 way mote. shirts, neckties, hats
and suits of clothes than all the
oilier Southern league managers
rolled together. He is popular with
some of his players, unpopular
with others, and doesn't give a
hang what his players think, so
long as they play the game. Smith
is no walking guide of ball players,
but is a great Judge of them in ac
t ion.
Then consider Molesworth—an
other chunky individual, quiet os a
elam, apparently not particularly
aggressive, 110 deep schemer, a man
of ideal habits. Molesworth has
managed from both bench and field,
but always he has been the kind
who has tried to secure brainy
players and then has been willing
to let them play the game as it
camo to them. Molesworth seems
neither particularly popular nor
particularly unpopular. He is just
a manager, and the players can
take him or leave him, just as best
suits them.
Then lastly, consider Mike Finn.
Here is a jovial, but moody, Irish
man. He is the champion baseball
envy cl .ped la of minor league
baseball. He knows alt about every
ball pluy’er. living or dead. He |
knows baseball history and baseball
law- H. has the sort of mind that
enables him to regard schedule
making a.s a relaxation. He is pop
ular w ith his men, is retiring, is no
seeker after publicity , is supersti
tious. doesn't believe itt having his
picture taken, doesn't like Friday
nor the thirteenth of anything.
Finn is another manager of good
habits and is a good citizen.
But there you have some of the
striking characteristics of the font
men who have done the most to
mak< playing history in the South
ern league.
Not any of which answers tne
question of "Which makes the team
the manager or the players?”
But it's never going to be answered
anyhow, so nobody should com
plain.
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v ' Io ■S, < '.o |. . . limtdtte,
HJNS HMTfi IS
ONE OF GAME’S
“MGTST"
* -
HANS WAGNER, the Pitts
burg shortstop, is one of the
vyoungest" veterans in the
Natii.fnal league ranks. Physicians
ase.ribi flu- German's greatness to
his i-oving disposition, his fondness
fur nature, and habit of eating
what he pleases. In commenting
upon Wagner's ability to keep in
goof shape, yxat* after year. James
Jerpc. i f Pittsburg, who has known
the great, shortstop a number of
\ i ars. says:
"When a man of his. natural
physiqur can eat what he xxants,
drink what hi wants, and do what
he pieages in the open air all the
year around, it isn't any real won
der that lie prolongs his athletic
career and stands off the slowness
and staleness that cemoes to the
best, of them as the years go by.
Simple Life For Honus.
"Hotius is the living ideal of th--
simple life. He clings to natui . !
He spends his fall and white in
woods and the spare time of tue
summer at the banks of a stream
fishing. He loves the freedom of
the open air and lu- is at home in
the wildest woods. He has the na
ture of an Indian in this respect.
W'U don't i-ateh Honus browsing
around in the city or on the streets
of his home town He keeps to him- .
sell' or in his own pet little circle
pt' woodmen.
“I have known him personally
' for years, and I know that his fond
ness for hunting and fishing ami
life in the open air ha> kept him
from going to the discard as a real-.
Ix great player. Honus roams the |
wood.® from pure desire. He doesn’t
worry.' He sleeps a lot, and be eats ■
what h<- please- and wh-n he
pleases. Ham and egg's look good
to him three times a dax. Between
nu-al.- lie seeks the open air—either
in his automobile or on foot.
"Honus has a poetic nature in
this respect, although he is any
thing but a poet. But the open air,
the trees, the streams and the wild
freedom of the woods have a fancy
for him, and in this environment
only is he happy. Is it any wonder
then that he retains his vlgot and
conserves much of that dash and
speed that make him the annual
wonder on tin- Pali field'.'
Eats What He Wants.
"There i> nothing t. mining on
the hotel or dining car menu for
Honus. He pref-->s the simplest i
kind- of fare and plenty of it. Honus •
would stop at th. Waldorf-A-toria
and calmly ouler 'ham-and,' al! -
the while ignoring with ■ aatacte: - i
I istic contempt ti’u'alleged tempt
; ing merits of lobster a .. N. a burg,
pate de sols gras, crab savigotti
and the pastries md kniekknaek®
ot tile steward's hatting ...di For
lit teen x.-a-.s tiny have tried to
wine and dine Honus and educate
him up to these loft) notions in
the culinarx art. but tin- German
xvould rather pri or his own meals
and pax- twice a* much for them a.-
the chap who fusses over the
I'Timclix- menu and its varieties.
As fm the evenings in larg.
city. Hontnj always enjoys himself.
In Nexx Yoik he hunts out th< big
moving picture shows, xx her th, •
movies max be showing African I
game hunts or some suit of adven
ture in the jungle, xvoods. or on sea
The next morning lie max- be up
bright, and eat ly, and within an
hour or two be. 45 minutes from
Broadway, whore the fishes have
no idea of the closeness of the Httl.
o d Xi>w York town.
Yes. is funti.x e.-m th, I tuuii-
Whitney and O’Keefe to Clash
i Here New Years; Palzer and
I McCarty Go Figures Slugfest
By Left Hook.
FMtANK WHITNEY and Tommy
O'Keefe are going to mix up
again here N< w Year's night.
Ta. Dixie A. I', has just made the
match, and if it 'is anywhere as
near as good as the last mill bi
twain this pair local boxing fans
will get a full run for their money.
Also Promoter Henry Norton is
burning the wires living to get
Battling Nelson fit; the winner on
January 15.
* * Keefe was knocked out by-
Jack Britton Christmas night, but
that doesn't lower his standing a
bit, for Britton is. probably the best
lightweight in the country. I say
lightweight because Danny Mor
gan, Britton's managel. claims he
cat do 133 pounds ringside.
Backey McFarland 4s dodging
Britton and has been dodging him
ever since Jack outpointed him
over in Memphis. It's a cinch that
this pair will hook up ere longmind
when it does yours truly will string
along with Britton.
By tin way. Britton got his real
1 start he.e in Atlanta, when lie '
fought chain y White and George
Memsie. He didn't get over s!<••>
for the Iwo lights, but lie left a
mighty high impression, ami Mike
Sam. who is now ref. reeing at the
Dixie A. claims that tie was the
first to predict that Britton would
some day be a champion.
So is hen you consider that one
of th.- Cree best lightweights in
‘ tile World, if not the i. ey best, beat
him. O'K. efe's reputation has not
been dented in the least by his
defeat at Britton's hands.
At any rate,-he and Whitney put
up the best scrap ever staged in
Atlanta, and local fans have been
howling for a ieturn bout ever
since.
' ■ I‘alzi and Luther .11,
Carty hook up New Year's
'lay. tistie followers on the Pacific
coast are likely to see a battle along
the line.of famous old-time fights,
such as tile Sullivan-Ryan. Jef
fries-Sharkey. Mitchell-Sullivan.
K drain-S till Ivan, Fitzsimmons-Mu-
Iter, Dempsey -Laßlanche, McAu
liff -Carney, MiAuliffe-Carroll. Mc-
Auliffe-Meyer. Lavigne-Everhardt.
Ryan-West and hundreds of others
of those mills that were nothing
but a case of give and take.
When Carl Morris was here I
asked him which man he liked the
best.
"McCarty," is replied without a
second's thought.
Tile writer has never , n Mc
-1 arty, but I saw Palzer lick Tom
Kennedy and A! Kaufman, and I
those two nights tlie New Vorki
-uro looked like a champion. He
knows ifttle of the scientific end of
tile game, is dead slow on his feet
end lias little or no defense, hut hi
sure can belt with both hands.
\lso Kaufman's rig: . band kicks
never budged him an in.l'. and
Kaufman could hit as iiaril with his
• ight hand as any man that ever
climbed into a ring,
I N his caret r, which so fa 1 as pub-
lic interest is eom-.i-rm-d begum
in 1311, Palzer has bad just six
battles of more than ordinary no.
tiee, but it must be admitted that
the results from four of the mmibei
were 1 xceediugly favorabh to hitn-
■■ n knot Routs.
On June 28 Palzer won a fifth bat
tle. Bombardier Wells, the English
heavy- champion, going down after
three rounds of hard battling. Tile
tight was nevertheless a moral de
feat foi Paiz. r. for had Wells any
stamina back o? his science he
would luive made a short, quick job
of the lowan, who was outpointed
bi to 1.
Palztr's next battle am the \,si
• sough: was .. ith Tony Hos>, ;l
■it ■ al. -an . 1 i I 'll I’a de! phia.
•and while nu decision was given, Al
was badly outpointed and defeated
by tile Italian vetei-an.
TN comparison with Palzer's rec
ord. that ol McCarty is a long
one. though lint few of his battles
were of more than local impor
tance. Like Palzer. MeCartx be
gan his serious ring carci r in 1911,
and to date has fought eighteen
battles, winning all bat two. Jess
Willaid and Jim Ste v.ut both out
pointing him, the former so badly
that tile bout was slopped to save
Luther. Folioxving these defeats,,
McCarty took a new lease of life,
knocking out Jack |leFarland in
two rounds and Jim Flynn in six
teen. Ihe lattci victory was a sur
prise to many and has opened the
eyes of Hie sport world to McCarty
as a elm mpionship'possibillt'-.
In his- light with Flynn the big
fellow made his Ixest appearance
yet and shn\\ i,| that In- has ac
quired considerable ktiyj*-ledg<’ of
the game. His best blow in tin
fight was a right uppercut, ami
those wlio aii- hacking him for hts
c.nning battle iely on this punch
to dispose of Palzer.
The latter has a irouch some
what similar to that of Jeffries, and
a right-hand uppi-ri-ut ora straight
left lead, both of which- MeCartx
possesses, are counted .by authori
ties to be tw.j Os file best blows to
successfully counter such an attack.
\ ' itl-i x ■ ■ tiling about lie
ii cords .a' both Palzi-rand Al. .
Carty is tin- number i*f battles tliex
have won by l- noekouts. Both have
n formidable and forbiihMng list, a
sure indication < ; the tremendous
sii-i-ngtb ami hitting ability of these
twn warriors. Out of six battles
I'aizcr Ims five times dropped his
man in tin- canvas for tlie full
count, while McCarty has had the
humt rals tolled ovi-r thirteen out
of eighteen opponents. It is a rec
ord that i- ix fiist-elass heavies in
ring historj have acquired.
In summing up, taking into con
sideration the youth, size, strength
and stamina of the'si two men,
whoever is tin- winner on January
1, lie is going to come close.to being
a worthy white heavyweight rep
resentative of America, and with
proper handling should become a
world’s champion.
Whether the winner will ever
meet Johnson or not in an attempt
to gain undisputed hold on the title
remains for the future to 'ilecide.
At this writing, however, it does
not seem likely that Johnson will
’ v< again elash in the ring wit i
■ white man.
M'INTOSH quits fistiana
SH >NI-:y N s vv.. De,.. 27. - Hugh
Mclntosh aiinoune,-,; today th,,-, he had
disposed of his int--i‘-sts in the pugil
istic g,i.... to "Snowy" Bake'' Mc-
Intosh will devote his whok tian- to a
theat ical circuit.
ATLANTA LEAGUE GAMES OFF.
AU schedulrd games in the Atlanta
‘ «K U ' or this wee havi b< en post- !
I'"*" T ' : ' po-tpom-d series ot till-, e
L-aim- will probablx l„ placed one
" '' regulars scheduled
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By .Janies Clarkson.
Chicago, Dec. 37.—ja 1H{ ,.
Tilden Sheckard, a Cub sine.
1906. is on the block for trade.
The famous left fielder, who bat-
I ted and fielded his way through
s-iven Cub campaigns, has drawn
lib- "long straw" and from now un
til a trade is concluded lie is a
marked man.
I'resident Murphy last night tip
ped his hand that had under .-over
u trade that would bling a. star
pitcher to the Cubs. He denied
ilia 1 Miller Huggins, of the Cardi
nals. had offered him 34.uu0 for
Sheckard. Murphy said lie never
would accept a cash offer for his
left fielder, but lie would consider
letting him go in a trade in which
tlie Cubs txould receive liis equal
♦ or more in playing strength.
“What we need is another good
pitcher,’’ he said. "With another
mat, equal to any of our second
-tring men the Cubs next Jiear will
bi- tin- strongest aggregation that
ever opened our park, not even ex
cel.ting the teams of 1906, 1907 and
190 S.
"Wiie:e is there an outfield that
• an compare with Schulte, Clynr
.mil Mitchell?” he asked. “And ■
infield. Saier. Evers. Zimnic-riaa:-
and one of our stock of shortstoj ;
You can't bent it as a team."
Sheckard Out of Lineup.
The < 'uli boss expounded it
letjgth upon the virtues of his out
fielders. but did not once mention
Sheckard. except to deny that ■
would let him go by purchase.
It is believed, however, that Mur
phy has his eye on Fromme. of
Cincinnati, and that another deal
may be put through.with tile Red
tliai will send Sheckard there atn
bring tin- twiiler here.
If a t'iiu-innaii deal fails, in-go
tiations mayxbe opened with the
Cards. Murphy yesterday admit
ted tii-it lie could have had Pitcher
Geyer, of the ('aids, but he turned
down the proposed deal. Just what
tin nature of the deal was he re
fused to disclose. It is believed
Manager Huggins offered Geyer
and cash for Sheckard. and that is
how tlie rumor started that Sheck
ard was to be sold for $4,000.
PITCHER OWEN GOOD CATCHER
MILW AUKEE, Dec. 27. —Figu:e.- iu
givi n out shoxv that Frank Owen, for
merly a star pitcher with the Cliicas-
White Sox. did some brilliant work i-- r
tin eluli as a catcher.
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I" in billed as “a promising yoUliß- ■
is only 37 years old.
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