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TTTE ATLANTA GEORGIAN AND NEWS.
WRAPPED
Whole Court
HER BODY UP LIKE
A udience Keyed to
DIRTY
Catch
clothes;:
Every Word
SAYS
o/ the
CONLEY
Witness
SWEEPER FIRST ADMITS HE
(Continued from Page Two.)
and cords around her neck.
Q. How did .you put her in the cloth?—A. I wrapped her up
like you would dirty clothes, tying the cloth in a knot.
Q. What did you do with her then?—A. I tried to pick her up.
She was so heavy I dropped her. I was nervous and scary and
called Mr. Frank. He came and took her by the feet. When we
started off he dropped her feet. I was backing back and Mr. Frank j
was carrying her feet. He let her feet drop when we were toting
her. When we got to the elevator he tried it and found it was
locked. He went into the office and got a key, came back and un
locked it, and when it started he said "Come on and get on here.”
When we got to the basement, he told me to take her on back.. I
said, "Where must I put her?" He said, "Back there by the saw
dust pile. ’ ’ I hollered to him when I got back there and asked him
if that was the place. He said "Leave her there.” When we got |
up to the second floor he jumped off before we got even with the
floor and fell. He jumped up and went to wash his hands. When
he came back he went to the office and said, "Come in, damn it.”
I went in and in a few minutes he said, "Somebody is coming.” He
was trembling and shaking all over, and his eyes were dancing like
diamonds. He says, "Here, jump in here,” and he opened the
wardrobe door. I got in, and after a long time he came and let me
out. I said, "You kept me in here a mighty long time.”
Says He Was Asked to Write Notes.
Q. Did you hear anything while you were in the wardrobe?—
A. Yes, I heard someone come in and say "Good morning, Mr.
Frank.” "Good morning,’’ he said. "You are all alone,’’ said the
other voice . That’s all I heard, but the footsteps going out.
He came back and let me out of the wardrobe. "You kept me in
here a mighty long time,” I said. "Yes,” he said, "you are sweat
ing.” We went into his office and he reached over and gave me a
box of cigarettes. He offered me one. They don’t allow cig
arette smoking around the factory. He said there was some money
in the box and I could keep it. Then he a.s..ed me to write some
notes for his mother. I don’t know what it was I wrote, but the
first one did not suit him. I wrote another on some green looking
paper. I was glad to do anything for Mr. Frank. He was the j
superintendent and all that. He slapped me on the back at that
and said "Good boy.” He had promised me some money and I
asked him about that. He pulled out of his pocket a large roll of
greenbacks. I took them. I told him I was scared. He said
something about getting me out of town. Then he asked me for
the money back. I thought he was just going to count it, but he
put it in his pocket. '' Is that the way you are going to treat me,
Mr. Frank?” I asked. "You keep your mouth shut,” he said. He
held his hands together, and looking up toward the ceiling said:
"Why should I hang; I have wealthy people in Brooklyn.” l|
looked up toward the ceiling, but didn't see nothing. I looked and
said: "Is that all you want?” and he said "Yes.” I sat in a chair
and saw him start to write a note. The first letter was "W.” He
turned and saw me. He jumped up and grabbed me by the shoul
der, turned me and put me to the head of the stair and told me to
go. He said: "Don’t you say anything now, and I will make it all
right.” I went down and went out to a saloon on Peters street; I
took a double-header and looked at the clock. It was twenty min
utes to 2. I asked a boy to have one with me, then I went home.
Frank came to him Tuesday, he says.
Q. Did you see Fsank any more?—A. Between 10 o’clock and 11
o’clock Tuesday morning. He came to me while I was sweeping
on the fourth floor and said: "Be a good boy," and I said: "Yes, I
will be a good boy.”
Q. Did you see him Monday?—A. No.
Q. Why?—A. Because it was a holiday and I didn’t go to
work until Tuesday. After Mr. Frank spoke to me, somebody told
me they were going to arrest Mr. Frank.
Dorsey interrupted: "Never mind that, what somebody told
you.”
Q. When were you arrested?—A. On the first of May.
Q. Dou you remember the day of the week?—A. Thursday.
Q. Look at these notes (handing the negro the two murder
notes found in the basement beside Mary Phagan’s body).—A.
Yes, these are the notes fixed up in Mr. Frank’s office. That man
right there (pointing to the defendant) took them off his desk
and had me write them.
Doesn’t Know Mrs. White.
Q. Did you notice the time that morning?—A. Yes, at Broad
and Mitchell street it was 9 minutes past 10.
Q. Who left the factory first?—A. Frank.
Q. Do you know the name of the man or woman up there with
Frank Thanksgiving Day?—A. I don’t know the woman, but the
man’s name was Dalton.
t e?
"I object to that a* Immaterial,'*
said Rosser.
Dorsey: "I want to show that
Prank knew this man could writ* 1 ,
and that when Frank was under ar
rest he knew he could write. Thai
Conley had told the police he could
I not write and Frank did not tell the
police any better.”
Judge Roan: “You can show that.’
Q. Did Frank know anything of
that watch contract?—A. Yes. it wa-*
made in his presence.
Q. Did you at first refuse to write
for the police?—A. Yes. sir, I .lid
LEO FRANK AND FIVE LINKS IN
CHAIN STATE HAS WOVEN FOR HIM
don’t know the name of the man?—A.
Yes, the man tvas Dalton.
Q. You don’t know the name of the
woman, do you?—A. No, but she lives
on West Hunter street.
Tell Name of Woman.
Q. Do you know the name of the
woman who was with Frank?—A.
Yes, her name was Daisy Hopkins.
She worked on the fourth floor
Q. He asked you to watch?—A.
Yes.
Q. What time was it?—A. 3 or 3:20.
Q. What did Frank say to you?—
A. He called me to his office and
said: “You see that young lady go-
Q. What did Frank have on that
Saturday morning?—A A raincoat.
Q. Where were you sitting?—A.
Right here (Indicating a spot in the
first floor of the factory near the trap
door that leads to the basement).
Q. Where did you work nil of the
Health Restored bv
Eckman’s Alterative
> If you an* a sufferer frtwn Glandular Tuber-
< oulnsLs. or know of anyone so afflicted, it mtfht )
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l declare* after .a year of suffering, he found per ?
i manent relief and full recovery to health by S
using Eckman’s Alterative, a medicine which ha* \
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W7 Laruatnn Ht., Phlla.. I’a. i
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( and a number of operation* In a hospital failed
) to benefit roe. In the meantime, a friend of
( mine aJrlsed Eckman '■ Alterative. The wounds
; In my Leek were atlll open and In a frightful 4
) condition when I started to take It After using }
( two bottle* I found I was Improving, haring j
‘ gained weight, could eat and was able to sleep J
< I continued using It until I was well, which
j was in November. 1910. Before I took the medl-
( cine 1 had three hemorrhages; since 1 have been
[taking It I have not had any On November 11.
^ started to work, and since that time I
| °ue day’s work through sickness.
«d Eckman’s Alterative to any-
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( all of Jacobs’ Drug Stores aod other lea ling
< druggists Write the Eckman Laboratory, Phila-
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) and additions" evidence.
time?—A. Up until Christmas I work
ed on the elevator. After Christmas
they took me off of the elevator and
put me to cleaning up on the fourth
floor.
Q Do you know Mrs. Arthur White?
—A. No.
At this point Solicitor Dorsey spoke
to one of the deputies and said: “If
Mrs. White hus come, show her in. *
Q When you found the body, how
did you know she was (lead?—A. She
was lying flat of her back with her
arms outstretched and she wasn’t
breathing.
At this Juncture Mrs. White entered
the courtroom.
Q. Did you see this woman (Dorsey
pointed to Mrs. White).—A. No, sir.
“Your honor.” said Dorsey. “I will
put this witness on the stand for u
moment.”
“We object." said Rosser. "T told
you privately w® wouldn’t consent.”
"1 thought you said Dr Harris,” re
turned Dorsey.
“Nobody," said Rosser.
Dorsey continued to question the
j negro.
Q. What kind of a lady was It you
saw in Frank's office Thanksgiving
day?—A. She was a talllsh, pretty
lady, with a polka-dot dress and i
kind of grayish skirt, white shoes and
white stockings.
Q. Did Frank say anything then?—
A. He kept saying: "That’s all right;
that’s all right.”
Q. Did you ever watch for Frank
before, and if so, when?—A. I don’t
know exactly, but I watched down
there ono<* * twice.
Q Did tfrank know
at first.
Q. Did Frank know you could
write?—A. Yes, sir. I signed a pa
per for a bailiff before him.
Rosser objected, but ’ was over
ruled.
Puts Rod® Around Neck.
Probably th® most dramatic mo
ment in the diree’ examination came
when Solicitor Dorsey handed to the
negro the underskirt ruffle which had
been taken from the dead girl’s neck,
and the negro identified it as the cloth
t which he had -eferred.
The solicitor then handed to him .1
piece of cord and directed him to
illustrate to the Jury Just how It jvas
tied about the fllrl’s neck.
Conley put one end through the
loop at the other end. Then he placed
the bight a:ound his own neck and
drew It tight with the slip knot on the
right side of his neck. Picking up
the underskirt ruffle, he said that this
wag tied around the girl’s neck.
“Did you notice the clock while you
were up there?*’ asked the solicitor.
A. I dlnd’t see any clock in the metal
room, but after I saw the girl was
dead and went back up to the front
I noticed the clock.
Q. What time was it?—A. Four
minutes to 1.
Q. You say the "irl was dead when
you say heT?—A. Yes. sir.
Q. What did you do when you found
the girl was dead?—A. I come back
and told Mr. Frank, “She’ dead."
Mr. Frank told me > get a piece of
cloth out of the cotton box and put
it around her up here. I heard a noise
up toward the third floor about that
time. Both Mr. Frank and me look
ed up there. It was then that I look
ed at th® clock and saw it was four
minutes to 1.
Q. Well, what did you do then?4-A.
1 went and got the cloth like Mr.
Frank told me to do.
Solicitor Dorsey handed to the wit
ness Mary Phagan’s parasol and ask
ed him to point out on th® big dia
gram hanging before th® Jury the
place where he found the girl's body
The negro indicated an area way lead
ing off at the left of the metal room,
savin' that the areaway led to the
ladies’ toilet.
Q Jim. where is the metal kept?—
A. It’s kept back there in a room near
the ladies’ toilet.
Rosser Starts Cross-Examination.
The witness was then turned over
to the defense and Rosser and Ar
nold retired for a conference. Mr.
Dorsey asked another question.
Q How long did you work for the^
National Pencil ^Company ?—A. Two
years.
Q. Where did you work before
that?—A. For Dr. Palmer.
Q. Why did you quit?—A. Well, he
got an automobile. He didn’t know
you could how to run it and I didn’t, so he had
to get another man.
Q. How old are you?—A. 27. Con*
1 / then rapidly reviewed where ne
had worked for a number of years,
giving himself a good record.
Rosser and Arnold returned to the
courtroom here and Rosser took the
witness on cross-examination.
Q. How old are yoj, Jim?—A. 27.
Q. Where were you born?—A. Right
here in Atlanta.
Q. When did you get your first Job’
—A. About eleven yea- ago.
Q When you were about 16 yea~s
old?—A. No, I was about eleven year?
old.
Q. What year \yas that?—About
1901, I won’t be sure.
Q. Can you read newspapers?—A.
Not much, I read them some.
Q. Do you read them often?—A. I
pick them up now nd then.
Q. What do you read?—A. Little
words like “this" and "that.”
Q. They are pretty common words
in the newspapers, aren’t they?—A.
Y es.
Tries Conley on Spelling.
Q. Can you spell "school?”—A. Yes.
Q. Color?—A. No.
Q. Shirt?—A. Yes.
Q. Cat?—A. Yes.
Q. Do you spell it with a “k” or
with a “c?”—A. With a “k.”
Q. Can you spell “mother?"—A. No.
Q. Can you spell "papa?”—A. Yes.
Q. How?—A. P-a-p-a.
Q. Can you spell “day?”—A. Yes.
Q. “Daylight?”—A. Yes.
Q. Can you spell "beer?”—A. Yes. *
Q. Can you spell “whisky?”—A. No.
Q. Look at this picture and tell me
if you can read any of these w'ords?—-
A. No.
Q. Do you know your figures?—A.
Yes.
Q. You know a good deal more
about figures than you do about spell
ing. don't you?—A. Y T es. I can count
better than I can spell.
Q. Then you are better at figuring
than you are at writing?—A. Yes; I
am better at counting.
Q. Well, isn’t figuring counting?—
A. I don't know.
Q. You don’t know you are 27
years old, do you, Jim?—A. Yes. sir,
that’s what my mother said.
Q. When did you go to school?—A.
Before I went to work.
Q. You don’t know where It was?—
A. Yes, It was at the Mitchell street
school.
Q. Who was your tsacbert—A. Miss
Aaron Cook.
Q- Who was the principal?—*A. Miss
Corey.
Q. What year was it?—A. I don’t
know.
Q. What did you do for Dr. Pal
mer?—A. I drove for him.
Quizzed About Former Employment.
Q. How long did you work for Mr.
Coates?—A. About five years.
Q. He ran a pressing club?—A. No,
sir. he ran a woodyard.
Q. Do you remember any of the
names of the white men who worked
there?—A. Yes, Mr. Babe, I think.
Q. He wasn’t ‘Baby’, was he?—A.
No, sir.
Q. Jim. when you went to the Na
tional Pencil Factory, who employed
you?—A. Mr. Herbert Schiff
Q Who paid off?—A. Mr. Schiff and
sometimes Mr. Frank.
Q. Give me the dates Mr. Frank
paid off—A. I hardly ever drew my
money. 1 had somebody draw' mine,
usually.
Q. Why did you do that?—A. Well,
I owed money, and I wanted to get it
and get away without them getting it
all.
Q. Did you not owe the boys more
than you u’anted to pay them?—A.
No, sir, I just owed 10 or 15 men.
Q. What were you drawing?—A.
$6.05.
Q. Who else worked there?—A. Joe
Bryce.
Q. What did he draw?—A. He said
$6.48.
Q. What made Mm tell you that?—
A. We were arguing down in the
basement.
Q. Did you tell him what you
drew?—A No.
Q. Why didn’t you tell him?—A. 1
didn’t think it was any of his busi
ness.
Q. You didn’t want him to know?
A. No, sir.
Q. All you had to do was to put
your envelope In your pocket and he
couldn’t see It, or tell what was In
It?—A. Yes.
Settled His Bills by Buying Beer.
Q. Then if you owed this fellow
Bryce money, you were afraid to get
it while he was there?—A. No.
Q. Why didn’t you settle with
them?—A. I usually settled with them
at the beer saloon by buying twice as
much beer.
Q. Didn’t you say a while ago that
you owed Joe Bryce some money?—A.
No, I said Walter.
Q. Then the reason you didn’t draw
your money was that you wanted to
get it and get away without paying
money?—A. Sometimes.
Q What time did the night watch
man come?—A. I don’t know. I never
saw him come to work.
Q. You never taw the watchman
there?—A. I saw the white watchman
get his money there.
Q. At what time did he come?—A.
About 2 o’clock^
Q. Did you see old man Newt Lee?
there?—A. No. I heard he was.
Q. Who was there before Newt?—
A. Old man Kendrick.
Q. Who was there before that?—A.
His son, I think.
Q. What time did they pay off on
Saturdays? Was it 12 o’clock?—A.
Sometimes 12. sometimes a quarter to
12 and sometimes at 11:30.
Q. Now you said you watched for
Mr. Frank, didn't you?—A. \ r es.
Q. When was the first time you
ever watched for Mr. Frank?—A.
Sometime last summer.
Frank Called Him Into Office.
Q. What did Mr. Frank say to
you? -A. He came out and called me
into his office.
Q. What did he say?—A. Well, he
sometimes talked to me about the
work.
Q. When did he first call you in
and talk to you about th e work?
Didn't he call you in during the week, i
[sometimes?—A. No, sir. He called I
me into the office to talk about the
work one Saturday night after I went
there.
Q. Did you punch the clock?—A. I
Sometimes I did and sometimes I
didn’t.
Q. Didn't they pay you by the
clock?—A. No, they didn't pay me
that way.
Q. Didn’t they pay everybody by
the clock?—A. They paid me $1.10 a
day.
Q. Don’t you work by the hour?—
A. Yes, sir.
Q. How much? A. Eleven cents an
hour.
Q. Did you miss any time?—A.
Sometimes.
Q. Wouldn’t they dock you when you
were not punched right on the clock?
—A. Sometimes Mr. Frank would
come out and say he didn’t dock me
for the time I missed.
Q. Why did he tell you that?—A. 1
don't know, sir. He just come out
said he hadn’t docked me.
Q. They didn’t ask you how long
you had been there?—A. No, they just
asked me if I was there.
Q. You say the first time you*
watched was back there in July? Yoi/
^KEL/ S-AY^ , T’Q&S'vm COTCLW*
a-T -l Cckocn ore FiJE’S'T 1 yiyooie-
ore okb-xjojP uovsa. ai'T&s? girl ■
lng out?” I said: ‘Yes, sir.’ He said:
'*\\ r atch the door, and don’t let any-
bbdy but them in.’
Q. Was the woman, Daisy Hop
kins, at th^ office then?—A. Yes.
Q. What did the other woman do?
A. She went out and came back
later with a man that was Dalton.
Q. What did they «o?—A. They
went Into Mr. Frank's office.
Q. How long did they stay?—A.
About 10 or 15 minutes.
Q. Did they come out?—A. Yes.
after a while. The man and the
woman came odt. Mr. Frank said:
“All right, Jim.”
Q. Then the man’s name was James
Dalton?—A. No, he was talking to
me.
Q. What did they do?—A. They
came down and went towards the
[ basement.
Q. What did you do?—A. I went
back and opened the trap door for
them.
Q. How long did they stay down
| there?—A. I don’t know.
Q. Frank stayed in his office?—A.
Yes.
Q. What time did he leave?—A.
i About 4:30.
Q. What time did the people down
stairs go?—A. I don’t know exactly,
i but they came up and went to Mr.
j Frank's office.
Q. Was the front door locked?—A.
Xo, sir. I was standing there watch-
! ing it.
Q. Was that the first time this
I happened?—A. Yes.
Q. When did It happen again?—A.
About the last part of July, or the
first part of August.
Q. When did Mr. Frank tell you
about it?—A. That same Saturday
morning.
Q. What dief he say?—A. He said,
“Well, you know what you did for
me ^ast Saturday?" I said: “Yes, sjr."
He said: “I want to put you wise to
this Saturday.”
Q. What happened after this?—A.
After Mr. Holloway left, Miss Daisy
Hopkins came in.
Q. Did she see you?—A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did anybody else come that day?
A. No, sir.
Q. How long did she stay up there?
A. About half an hour.
Q. Did he give you any money?—A,
Yes, sir; he gave me half a dollar.
Q. When was the next time?—A. I
don’t hardly remember; it was near
wintertime.
Q. About what time?—A. About the
middle of August.
Q. I thought you said it was near
winter?—A. Well, that’s near winter.
Q. Middle of August near winter!
It’s mighty hot then.—A. Y'es, sir; it’s
pretty near winter.
Q. What did Frank say?—A. He
said: “I’m going to put you wise."
Q. That's what he said every time,
was it—“I’m going to put you wise?”
A. Y'es, sir; something like that. But
he said what h e did in a funny way.
She Had Red Hair.
Q. Who was the woman?—A. I don't
know who she was.
Q» How did she look?—A. She had
hair like Mr. Hooper.
Q. How do you know Mr. Hooper
so well? He has questioned you a
lot, hasn’t he?—A No, sir; I never
saw him but once before.
Q. She was gray-haired, then, was
she? You see Mr. Hooper is gray
haired, old and broken with a some
what weasly appearance.—A. I don’t
know whether he is giay or not. Her
hair was lik e his.
Q. What color was her dress?—A.
It was green.
Q. What kind of clothes did she
have on the first time?—A. A white
waist and black skirt.
Q. When did you see her last?—A
The morning I was arrested.
Q. What did she have on then?—A.
A black skirt with paint spots on it.
Q. You swept the fourth floor?—A.
Yes.
Q. Saw that little girl on the fourth
floor every day, didn’t you?—A. Not
all the time, but often.
Q. That first time he told you not
to tell Darley, didn’t he?—A. Yes.
Q. What time was it, Thanksgiving
Day?—A. I don’t recall.
Q. Who came down first?—A. Mr.
Frank.
Q. What did he do?—A. He went to
the front door and opened it and
looked out.
Q. What did he do then?—A. He
went to the stairway door and lei
the woman out and walked to the
front door with her. As she passed
me the lady said, “Is that the negro?"
and he said, “Yes. that’s him. He
is the best negro in the State.”
Frank Walked to Door With Her.
Q. Did he walk out?—A. No, he
just walked to the door with her and
came back.
Q. How was she dressed?—A. A blue
dotted dress and a gray coat that
looked like it was tailored, white
shoes and white stockings.
Q. What kind of a hat?—A A big
black hat with big feathers.
Q. Did you see that woman In the
office before?—A. I thought I saw her
in his office sometime before Thanks
giving.
Q. What did she have on?—A. I
don’t know.
Q. What kind of a looking girl was
she?—A. A tall, heavy set girl.
Q. Who else was there in the of
fice?—A. Friends of Mr. Frank.
Q. What time was it?—A About 8
o’clock.
Q. What were you doing there at
that time?—A. Stacking some boxes.
Q. Any Jewelry?—A. I didn’t notice
any.
Q. What was the next time after
Thanksgiving?—A. Along aftef
Christmas.
Q. What time?—A. I don't know
exactly.
Q. What is your best guess?—A. It
was some time about the first of Jan
uary.
Q. When did Mr. Frank speak to
you about it the first time?—A. I don’t
remember.
Q. You don’t remember anything
about it except that you watched?—
A. Yes. sir; I do remember one thing.
Q. I thought yon said you didn’t
remember anything?—A. Yes, sir; Mr.
Frank told me a man with two wo- J
men would be there and I might maka
a piece of change off of the man,
Q. When was this?—A. About 7:30. VC
Q. I thought you said you didn't Ji
remember? Why didn't you tell that wM
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