Atlanta Georgian. (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, August 04, 1913, Image 4

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4 THE ATLANTA fiEORflTAX AND NEWS. "I WRAPPED HER BODY UP LIKE DIRTY CLOTHES,” SAYS CONLEY Whole Court Audience Keyed to Catch Every Word of the Witness SWEEPER FIRST ADMITS HE SAW GIRLViCTIM AT PLANT \ o? “I object to that an immaterial,” 1 said Rosser. Dorsey: "I want to show that | Frank knew this man could write, and that when Frank was under ar rest he knew he could write. Thai Conley had told the police he could not write and Frank did not tell the police any better.” Judge Roan: "You can show that.’ Q. Did Frank know anything of that watch contract?—A. Yes. it wan made in ills presence. Q. Did you at first refuse to write for the police?—A. Yes. sir, I did (Continued from Page Two.) and cords around her neck. Q. How did you put her in the cloth?—A. I wrapped her up like you would dirty clothes, tying the cloth in a knot. Q. What did you do with her then?—A. I tried to pick her up. She was so heavy 1 dropped her. I was nervous and scary and called Mr. Frank. He came and took her by the feet. When we started off he dropped her feet. I was backing back and Mr. Frank was carrying her feet. He let her feet drop when we were toting her. When we got to the elevator he tried it and found it was locked. He went into the office and got a key, came back and un locked it, and when it started he said “Come on and get on here.” When we got to the basement, he told me to take her on back.. I said, “Where must I put her?" He said, “Back there by the saw dust pile.' ’ I hollered to him when I got back there and asked him if that was the place. He said “Leave her there.” When we got up to the second floor he jumped off before we got even with the floor and fell. He jumped up and went to wash his hands. When he came back he went to the office and said, “Come in, damn it.” I went in and in a few minutes he said, “Somebody is coming.” He was trembling and shaking all over, and his eyes were dancing like diamonds. He says, “Here, jump in here,” and he opened the wardrobe door. I got in, and after a long time he came and let me out. I said, “You kept me in here a mighty long time.” Says He Was Asked to Write Notes. Q. Did you hear anything while you were in the wardrobe?— A. Yes, I heard someone come in and say “Good morning, Mr. Frank.” “Good morning,’’ he said. “You are all alone,’’ said the other voice . That’s all I heard, but the footsteps going out. He came back and let me out of the wardrobe. “You kept me in here a mighty long time,” I said. “Yes,” he said, “you are sweat ing.” We went into his office and he reached over and gave me a box of cigarettes. He offered me one. They don't allow cig arette smoking around the factory. He said there was some money in the box and I could keep it. Then he ass.ted me to write some notes for his mother. I don’t know what it was I wrote, but the first one did not suit him. I wrote another on some green looking paper. I was glad to do anything for Mr. Frank. He was the •superintendent and all that. He slapped me on the back at that and said “Good boy.” He had promised me some money and I asked him about that. He pulled out of his pocket a large roll of greenbacks. I took them. I told him I was scared. He said something about getting me out of town. Then he asked me for the money back. I thought he was just going to count it, but he put it in his pocket. “Is that the way you are going to treat me, Mr. Frank?” I asked. “You keep your mouth shut,” he said. He held his hands together, and looking up toward the ceiling said: “Why should I hang; I have wealthy people in Brooklyn.” I looked up toward the ceiling, but didn't see nothing. I looked and said: “Is that all you want?” and he said “Yes.” I sat in a chair and saw him start to write a note. The first letter was “ W. ” He turned and saw me. He jumped up and grabbed me by the shoul der, turned me and put me to the head of the stair and told me to go. He said: “Don’t you say anything now, and I will make it all right. ’ ’ I went down and went out to a saloon on Peters street; I took a double-header and looked at the clock. It was twenty min utes to 2. I asked a boy to have one with me, then I went home. Frank came to him Tuesday, he says. Q. Did you see Fsank any more?—A. Between 10 o'clock and 11 o’clock Tuesday morning. He came to me while I was sweeping on the fourth floor and said: “Be a good boy,” and I said: “Yes, I will be a good boy.” Q. Did you see him Monday?—A. No. Q. Why?—A. Because it was a holiday and I didn’t go to work until Tuesday. After Mr. Frank spoke to me, somebody told me they were going to arrest Mr. Frank. Dorsey interrupted: “Never mind that, what somebody told you. ’ ’ Q. When were you arrested?—A. On the first of May. Q. Dou you remember the day of the week?—A. Thursday. Q. Look at these notes (handing the negro the two murder notes found in the basement beside Mary Phagan’s body).—A. Yes, these are the notes fixed up in Mr. Frank's office. That man right there (pointing to the defendant) took them off his desk and had me write them. Doesn’t Know Mrs. White. Q. Did you notice the time that morning?—A. Yes, at Broad and Mitchell street it was 9 minutes past 10. Q. Who left the factory first?—A. Frank. Q. Do you know the name of the man or woman up there with A 1 dln(,,t see any clock in the metal Frank Thanksgiving Day?—A. I don't know the woman, but the room ' but af,pr 1 saw ,ho s ,rl wa » man’s name was Dalton. LEO FRANK AND FIVE LINKS IN CHAIN STATE HAS WOVEN FOR HIM ■rio>rWj5K“ *tovsw VKYS- r»k.VK WkS vof orvxon tteTYVE-ErX 12,-05 axt> la.io Vital points in evidence against Frank illustrated by artist P. A. Carter. don’t know the name of the man?—A. Yea, the man was Dalton. Q. You don’t know the name of the woman, do you?—A. No, but she lives on West Hunter street. Tell Name of W oman. Q. Do you know the name of the woman who was with Frank?—A. Yes, her name was Daisy Hopkins. She worked on the fourth floor Q. He asked you to watch?—A. Yes. Q. What time .was it?—A. 3 or 3:20. Q ; What did Frank say to you?— A. He called me to his office and said: ‘‘You see that young lady go- TEcS'OMl'iEfS' f UKTllGMS'S'TUD , CAT SHOW'S MAW ' sneo oxB RAUF KOXJte sue KTJV OJ2> “ ABOUT* ia.10 SAYS* -MMFY XC,rT Att? 11. AS VH1T& at first. Q. Did Frank know you could write?—A. Yes, sir. 1 signed a pa per for a bailiff before him. Rosser objected, but was over ruled. Put* Rod© Around Neck. Probably the moat dramatic mo ment in the direr’ examination came when Solicitor Dorsey handed to the negro the underskirt rufTle which had been taken from the dead girl’s neck, and the negro identified it as the cloth t which he had -eferred. The solicitor then handed to him .1 piece of cord and directed him to illustrate to the Jury just how It was tied about the filrl’s neck. Conley put one end through the loop at the other end. Then he placed the bight around his own neck and drew It tight with the slip knot on the right side of his neck. Picking up the underskirt ruffle, he said that this wag tied around the girl’s neck. "Did you notice the clock while you were up there?” asked the solicitor. Q. What did Frank have on that Saturday morning?—A. A raincoat. Q. Where were you sitting?—A. Right here (indicating a spot in the first floor of the factory near the trap door that leads to the basement). Q. Where did you work all of the 11 Health Restored bv i « / Eckman’s Alterative S If you art* a froo> Glandular Tuber s ( fuloKlft. or know of anyone so afflicted. It might ) > t** well to InvmtigaU- this caae. where the writer S , declare* after a year >4 suffering, he found i>er ) I manent relief atnl full recovery to health by ) | using Eckman’s Alterative/ a medicine which has < I J tie«i effective in many rases of Tuberculoals v ■ *57 Laruston St. Plklla . Pa ' ! **OmiU—IH: In March. 1909, my doctor pro > J i bounced my case ’Tuberculosis in the Glands, \ ! < »nd a number of operaUons tn a hospital failed \ i / to benefit me In the meanUine. a friend of ) < mine adrlsed Eckman’s Alterative The wounds f / in my reck were still open and In a frightful ) ( condition when I started to uke it. After using \ ? two bottles I found I was improving, having / \ gained weight, could eat and was able to sleep t ? I continued using It until I waa well, which \ j was in November. 1*10. Before I took the medl- ) \ due I bad three hemorrhages, since I have been { [ It I have not had any On November 11. S J started to work, and alnce that time 1 ( P ot lost one day’s work through steknens ) lily recommend Eckman’s Alterative to ai©- »h« Is suffering from Gland trouble ” (Affidavit, JOSEPH B WHITE. (Above abbreviated more on request. I Kokman s Alterative has been proven by many 1 yesrs test to be moat efficacious In case* of ae- ( ™ re a,ld Lung Affections. Bronchitis. j Bronchial Asthma, Stubborn folds and in up- ? building the system. Doe* not contain narcotics ( poisons or habit forming drugs For sale by i all of Jacobs’ Drug Stores and other leading w k rtt * Uie K^kniat: Laboratory, Phils ) , f °L J booklet telling of recoveries ) »nd addHiv*! evidence time?—A. Up until Christmas I work ed on the elevator. After Christmas they took me off of the elevator anil put me to cleaning up on the fourth floor. Q. Do you know Mrs. Arthur White? —A. No. At this point Solicitor Dorsey spoke to one of the deputies and said: “It Mrs. White has come, show* her in.” Q. When you found the body, how’ did you know she was dead?—A. She was lying fiat of her back with her arms outstretched and she wasn’t breathing. At this Juncture Mrs. White entered the courtroom. Q. Did you see this woman (Dorsey pointed to Mrs. White).—A. No. sir. "Your honor.” said Dorsey, ”1 will put this witness on the stand for a moment/’ We object,” said Rosser. “I told you privately we wouldn’t consent." "I thought you said Dr Harris,” re turned Dorsey. "Nobody,” said Rosser. Dorsey continued to question the negro. Q. What kind of a lady was it yo*i saw in Frank's office Thanksgiving day?—A. She was a tallish, pretty lady, with a polka-dot dress and a kind of grayish skirt, white shoes and white stockings. Q Did Frank say anything then?— A. He kept saying. "That’s all right, that’s all right.” Q Did you ever watch for Frank before, and If so, when?—A. I don't know exactly, but 1 watched down I (here nnr«or twice. W Did ** Frank know you could dead and went back up to the front I noticed the clock. Q. What time was It?—A. Four minutes to 1. Q. You say the «1rl was dead when you say her?—A. Yes. sir. Q. What did you do when you found the girl was dead?—A. 1 come back and told Mr. Frank, "She’ dead.' Mr. Frank told me » get a piece of cloth out of the cotton box and put it around her up here. I heard a noise up toward the third floor about that time. Both Mr. Frank and me look ed up there. It was then that I look ed at the clock and saw It was four minutes to 1. Q. Well, w hat did you do then?—A. I went and got the cloth like Mr. Frank told me to do. Solicitor Dorsey handed to the wit ness Mary Phagan’s parasol and ask ed him to point out on the big dia gram hanging before the Jury the place where he found the girl’s body The negro indicated an area way lead ing off at the left of the metal room, saytn- that the areaway led to the ladles’ toilet. Q Jim. where Is the metal kept?— A. It’s kept back there In a room near the ladies’ toilet. Rosser Starts Cross-Examination. The witness was then turned over to the defense and Rosser and Ar nold retired for a conference. Mr. Dorsey asked another question. Q. How long did you work for the National Pencil Company?—A. Two years. Q Where did you work before that?—A. For Dr. Palmer. Q. Why did you quit?—A. Well, he got an automobile He didn’t know how to run it and I didn’t, so he had to get another man. Q. How old are you?—A. 27. Con- ) ' then rapidly reviewed where ne had worked for a number of year3, giving himself a good record. Rosser and Arnold returned to the courtroom here and Rosser took the witness on cross-examination. Q. How old are you, Jim?—A. 17. Q. Where were you born?—A. Right here in Atlanta. Q. When did you get your first job? —A. About eleven yea* ago. Q. When you were about 16 yea-s old?—A. No, I was about eleven years old. Q. What year was that?—About 1901, I won’t be sure. Q. Can you read newspapers?—A. Not much, I read them some. Q. Do you read them often?—A. I pick them up now nd then. Q. What do you read?—A. Little words like "this" and "that.” Q. They are pretty common worcN In the newspapers, aren’t they?—A. Yes. Tries Conley on Spelling. Q. Can you spell "school?”—A. Yes. Q. Color?—A. No. Q. Shirt?—A. Yes. Q. Cat?—A. Yes. Q. Do you spell it with a “k” or with a "c?”—A. With a "k.” Q. Can you spell “mother?”—A. No. Q. Can you spell "papa?”—A. Yes. Q. How?—A. P-a-p-a. Q. Can you spell “day?”—A. Yes. Q. "Daylight?”—A. Yes. Q. Can you spell "beer?”—A. Yes. Q. Can you spell "whisky?”—A. No. Q. Look at this picture and tell me If you can read any of these words?— A. No. Q. Do you know your figures?—A. Yes. Q. You know a good deal more about figures than you do about spell ing, don’t you?—A. Yes. I can count better than I can spell. Q. Then you are better at figuring than you are at writing?—A. Yes; I am better at. counting. Q. Well, isn’t figuring counting?— A. I don’t know. Q. You don’t know you are 27 years old. do you, Jim?—A. Yes. Mr, that’s what my mother said. Q When did you go to school?—A. Before I went to work Q. You don’t know where it was?— A. Yea It waa at the Mitchell street school. Q. Who waa your teacher*—A. Miss Aaron Cook. Q. Who waa the prlEolp*!!—wk Mjas Corey. Q. What year was it?—A. I don’t know. Q. What did you do for Dr. Pal mer?—A. I drove for him. Quizzed About Former Employment. Q. How long did you work for Mr. Coates?—A. About five years. Q. He ran a pressing club?—A. No, sir. he ran a woodyard. Q. Do you remember any of the names of the white men who worked there?—A. Yes, Mr. Babe, I think. Q. He wasn’t ‘Baby’, was he?—A. No, sir Q. Jim. when you went to the Na tional Pencil Factory, who employed -you?—A. Mr. Herbert Schiff. Q. Who paid off?—A. Mr. Schiff and sometimes Mr. Frank. Q. Give me the dates Mr. FTank paid off--A. I hardly ever drew m\ money. 1 had somebody draw mine, usually. Q. Why did you do that?—A. Well, I owed money, and I wanted to get it and get away without them getting it all. Q. Did you not owe the boys more than you wanted to pay them?—A. No, sir, I just owed 10 or 15 men. Q. What were you drawing?—A. $6.05. Q. Who else worked there?—A. Joe Bryce. Q. What did he draw?—A. He said $6.48. Q. What made him tell you that?— A. We were arguing down in the basement. Q. Did you tell him what you drew?—A No. Q. Why didn't you tell him?—A. 1 didn’t think it was any of his busi ness. Q. You didn’t want him to know? A. No, sir. Q. All you had to do was to put your envelope in your pocket and he couldn’t see It, or tell what was in It ?—A. Yes. Settled His Bills by Buying Beer. Q. Then if you owed th4s fellow Brvce money, you were afraid to get it while he was there?—A. No. Q. Why didn’t you settle with them?—A. I usually settled with them at the beer saloon by buying twice as much beer. Q. Didn’t you say a while ago that you owed Joe Bryce some money?—A. No, I said Walter. Q. Then the reason you didn’t draw your money was that you wanted to ^KEl/ S*AY^>CE/G^o - CoWfcTX ioc^ock, oir ruesT OTZ OXEr-XALP HOUR. APTtVS? Qliei/ J lng out?” I said: ‘Yes, sir.’ He said: "Watch the door, and don’t let any body but them in.' Q. Was the woman, Daisy Hop kins, at the office then?—A. Yes. Q. What did the other woman do? A. She went out and came back later with a man that was Dalton. Q. What did they cto?—A. They went into Mr. Frank’s office. Q. How long did they stay?—A. About 10 or 15 minutes. Q. Did they come out?—A. Yes. after a while. The man and the woman came out. Mr. Frank said: "All j;lght, Jim.” Q. Then the man’s name was James Dalton?—A. No, he was talking to me. Q. What did they do?—A. They came down and went towards the basement. Q. What did you do?—A. I went back and opened the trap door for them. Q. How long did they stay down there?—A. I don’t know. <!• Frank stayed in his office?—A. Yes. Q. What time did he leave?—A. About 4:30. Q. What time did the people down stairs go?—A. I don’t know exactly, hut they came up and went to Mr. Frank’s cffice. Q. Was the front door locked?—A. No, sir. I was sta-ding there watch ing it. Q. W as that the first time this get it and get away without paying money?—A. Sometimes. Q What time did the night watch man come?—A. I don’t know. I never saw him come to work. Q. You never siaw the watchman there?—A. I saw the white watchman get his money there. Q. At what time did he come?—A. About 2 o’clock. Q. Did you see old man Newt Dee? there?—A. No. I heard he was. Q. Who was there before Newt?— A. Old man Kendrick. Q. Who was there before that?—A. His son. I think. Q. W T hat time did they pay off on Saturdays? Was it 12 o’clock?—A. Sometimes 12, sometimes a quarter to 12 and sometimes at 11:30. Q. Now* you said you watched for Mr. Frank, didn't you?—A. Yes. Q. When w r as the first time you ever watched for Mr. Frank?—A. Sometime last summer. Frank Called Him Into Office. Q. What did Mr. Frank say to you?—A. He came out and called me into his office. Q. What did he say?—A. Well, he sometimes talked to me about the work. Q. When did he first call you in and talk to you about th e W’ork? Didn’t he call you in during the week, i happened?—A. Yes. sometimes?—A. No, sir. He called me into the office to talk about the work one Saturday night after I w’ent there. Q. Did you punch the clock?—A. Sometimes I did and sometimes I didn’t. Q. Didn’t they pay you by the clock?—A. No, they didn't pay me that way. Q. Didn’t they pay everybody by the clock?—A. They paid me $1.10 a day. Q. Don’t you work by the hour?— A. Yes, sir. Q. How much? A. Eleven cents an hour. Q. Did you miss any time?—A. Sometimes. Q. Wouldn’t they dock you when you were not punched right on the clock? —A. Sometimes Mr. Frank would come out and say he didn’t dock me for the time I missed. Q. Why did he tell you that?—A. 1 don’t know, sir. He just come out said he hadn’t docked me. Q. They didn’t ask you how long you had been there?—A. No, they just asked me if I was there. Q. You say the first time you watched was back there in July? Y>*u Q. When did it happen again?—\. About the last part of July, or the first part of August. Q. When did Mr. Frank tell you about it?—A. That same Saturday morning. Q. What did he say?—A. He said. "Well, you know what you did for me last Saturday?” I said: "Yes, sir.” He said: "I w-ant to put you wise to this Saturday.” Q. What happened after this?—A. After Mr. Holloway left, Miss Daisy Hopkins came in. Q. Did she see you?—A. Yes. sir. Q. Did anybody else come that day? A. No, sir. Q. How long did she stay up there? A. About half an hour. Q. Did he give you any money?—A. Yes, sir; he gave me half a dollar. Q. When was the next time?—A. I don’t hardly remember; it was near wintertime. Q. About what time?—A. About the middle of August. Q. I thought you said it was near winter?—A. Well, that’s near winter. Q. Middle of August near winter! it’s mighty hot then.—A. Yes, sir; it’s pretty near winter. Q. What did Frank say?—A. Ha said: “I’m going to put you wise.” Q. That’s what he said every time, was it—"I’m going to put you wise?” A. Yes, sir; something like that But he said what h e did in a funny way. She Had Red Hair. Q. Who was the woman?—A. I don’t know who she was. Q. How did she look?—A. She had hair like Mr. Hooper. Q. How do you know Mr. Hooper so well? He has questioned you a lot, hasn’t he?—A. No, sir; I never saw him but once before. Q. She was gray-haired, then, was she? You see Mr. Hooper is gray- haired, old and broken with a some what weasly appearance.—A. I don’t know whether he is gray or not. Her hair was lik e his. Q. What color was her dress?—A. It was green. Q. What kind of clothes did she have on the first time?—A. A white waist and black skirt. Q. When did you see her last?—A. The morniflg I was arrested. Q. What did she have on then?—A. A black skirt with paint spots on it. Q. You swept the fourth floor?—A. Yes. Q. Saw that little girl on the fourth floor every day, didn’t you?—A. Not all the time, but often. Q. That first time he told you not to tell Darley, didn’t he?—A. Yes. Q. What time was it, Thanksgiving Day?—A. 1 don’t recall. Q. Who came down first?—A. Mr. Frank. Q. What did he do?—A. He went to the front door and opened it and looked out. Q. What did he do then?—A. He went to the stairway door and lei the woman out and walked to the front door with her. As she passed me the lady said, "Is that the negro?” and he said, "Yes. that’s him. He is the best negro in the State.” * Frank Walked to Door With Her. Q. Did he walk out?—A. No, he just walked to the door with her and came back. Q. How was she dressed?—A. A blue dotted dress and a gray coat that looked like it was tailored, white shoes and white stockings. Q. What kind of a hat?—A. A big black hat with big feathers. Q. Did you see that woman in the office before?—A. I thought I saw her in his office sometime before Thanks giving. Q. What did she have on?—A. I don’t know. Q. What kind of a looking girl was she?—A. A tall, heavy set girl. Q. Who else was there in the of fice?—A. Friends of Mr. Frank. Q. What time was it?—A. About 8 o’clock. Q. What were you doing there at that time?—A. Stacking some boxes. Q. Any jewelry?—A. I didn't notice any. Q. What was the next time after Thanksgiving?—A. Along after Christmas. Q. What time?—A. I don't know exactly. Q. What Is your best guess?—A. It was some time about the first of Jan - uary. Q. When did Mr. FTank speak to you about It the first, time?—A. I don’t remember. Q. You don’t remember anything about it except that you watched?— 1 A. Yes. sir; I do remember one thing. Q. 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