Atlanta Georgian. (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, August 04, 1913, Image 4

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WRAPPED HER BODY UP LIKE DIRTY CLOTHES/’ SAYS CONLEY Whole Court Audience Keyed to Catch Every Word of the Witness THE ATLANTA HKOKCilAN EPEH FIRST ADMITS HE LEO FRANK AND FIVE LINKS IN CHAIN STATE HAS WOVEN FOR HIM (Continued from Page Two.) here in Atlanta. Q. When did you get your first Job? —A. About eleven yea. ago. Q. When you were about 16 yca"S old?—A. No. I was about eleven year* old. Q. What year was that?—About 1901. I won’t be sure. Q. Can you read newspapers?—A Not much, I read them some. Q. Do you read them often?—A. ! pick them up now nd then. Q. What do you read?—A. Lltt’a words like “this*’ and "that.” Q. They are pretty common word-1 In the newspapers, aren't they?—A. Yes. Tries Conley on Spelling. Q. Can you spell "school?"—A. Yes. Q. Color?—A. No. Q. Shirt?—A. Yes. Q. Cat?—A. Yes. q. Do you spell it with a ”k” or with a "c?”—A. With a "k.” Q. Can you spell “mother?"—A. No. Q. Can you spell “papa?”—A. Yes. Q. How?—A. P-a-p-u Q. Can you spell "day?"—A. Yes. Q. "Daylight?"—A. Yes. Q. Can you spell "beer?”—A. Yep. Q. Can you spell "whisky?"—A. No. Q. Look at this picture and tell me if you can read any of these words?— A. No. Q. Do you know your figures?—A. Yes. Q. You know a go . deal more about figures than you do about spell ing. don’t you?—A. Yes. I can count better than I can spell. Q. Then you are better at figuring than you are at writing?—A. Yes am better at counting. Q. Well, isn’t figuring counting?— A. 1 don't know. Q You don’t know you are 27, years old, do you, Jim?—A. Yes. Hr. that’s what my mother said. Q When did you go to school?—A. Before I went to work. Q. You don’t know where it was?— A Yes. It was at the Mitchell street school. Q. Who was your teacher?—A. MU* Aaron Cook Q. Who was the principal?—A. Miss Corey. Q. What year was it?—A. 1 don’t know. Q. What did you do for Dr. Pal mer?—A I drove for him. Quizzed About Former Employment. Q. How long did you work for Mr. Coates?—A. About five years. Q. He ran a pressing club?—A. No, sir. he ran a woodyard. Q. Do you remember any of the names of the white men who worked there? A. Yes. Mr. Babe, I think. Q. He wasn’t 'Baby', was he?—A. No, Hr Q Jim. when you went to the Na tional Pencil Factory, who employed you?—A. Mr Herbert Schtff Q. Who paid off? -A. Mr. Schiff and \somet!mes Mr. Frank. Q. Give me the dates Mr Frank paid off—A. I hardly ever drew my money. 1 had somebody draw mine, usually. Q. Why did you do that?—A. Well. I owed money, and I wanted to get it an 1 get away without them getting It all. Q. Did you not owe the boys more than you wanted to pay them?—A. No. sir, 1 Just owed 10 or 16 men. Q. What were you drawing?—A $6.05. Q. Who else w’orked there?—A. Jot Bryce. Q. What did he draw?—A. He said $6.48. Q. What made Mm tell you that?— A. We were arguing down in the basement. Q. Did you tell him what you drew?—A No. Q. Why didn't you tell him?—A. 1 didn’t think It was any of his busi ness Q. You didn’t want him to know? A. No, sir. Q. A!1 you had to do was to put Vital points in evidence against Frank illustrated by artist P. A. Carter. remember? Why didn’t you tell thai then?—A. You cut me off so sharp I didn’t have a chance. Q. What time did they come?—A Some time about 2:30 or 3 o’clock. Q. What did he say?—A. He asked me if Mr. Fraqk had put me wise. Q. He and Frank used the same ex pression?—A. Yes, sir. Q. How were the women dressed?— A. I don’t remember. Court was then adjourned until 2 o’clock. Jim Conley was brought to the courtroom at five minutes* to 2 o’clock. didn’t I. Jim?—A. The last time 1 watched was about the last of Sep tember. Q. Jim, what time was it you watched the second Saturday?—A. 1 don't remember, sir. Q. You don’t know what time you left for home?—A. No, sir. Q. Jim, we don’t want any contro versy between us, but tell all about these times you watched.—A. I done told you like I remember them. 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Hcfore I look the medi cine I had three hemorrhages since 1 hare been taking It I have not had any. On Noeeriher 11, 1910, I started to work, and since that time I have not lost one day's work through slckneas. I highly recommend Erkiuan'a AlteraUve U> any- bo Is suffering from Gland trouble.'* “'it) JOSEPH B WHITE. abbreviated: more on request ) man's Alterative has been proven by many lest to be rnoel effleacinus In case* of se- Thrnat and Lung Affections. BronchiUs. Bronchial Asthma. MtublKJrn Cold* and in up building the S3 stem. l*oe» not contain narcoUcs. poisons or habit-forming drugs For tale by all of Jacobs’ l>rug Store* and other leading druggists. Write tire Kckman Laboratory. Phils delphla. f«r booklet telling of recoveries and additfHftA evidence. your envelop** In your pocket and he couldn’t see It. or tell what was in It?—A. Yes. Settled Hi* Bills by Buying Beer. Q. Then If you owed this fellow Bryce money, you were afraid to get it while he was there?—A. No. Q. Why didn’t you settle with them?—A. I usually settled with them at the beer saloon by buying twice as much beer. Q. Didn’t you say a while ago that jou owed Joe Bryce some money?—A. No. I said Walter. Q. Then the reason you didn’t draw your money was that you w*anted to get It and get away without paying money?—A. Sometimes. Q What time did the night watch man come?—A 1 don’t know. 1 never saw him come to work. Q. You never paw the watchm«\n there?—A. I saw the white watchman get his money there. Q. At w’hat time did he come?—A. About 2 o’clock Q. Did you see old man New*t Lee? there?—A. No. I heard he was. Q. Who was there before Newt?— A. Old man Kendrick. Q. Who was there before that?—A His son. 1 think. Q. What time did they pay off on Saturdays? Was it 12 o’clock?—A. | Sometimes 12. sometimes a quarter to ! 12 and sometimes at 11:30. Q. Now you said you watched for I Mr. Frank, didn’t you?- A. Yes. J Q. When was the first time you ever watched for Mr. Frank?- A. Sometime last summer. Frank Called Him Into Office. Q. What did Mr. Frank say to you?—A. He came out and called me into his office. Q. What did he say?—A. Well, he sometimes talked to me about the work. Q. When did he first call you in and talk to you about the work 0 Didn’t he call you in during the week, sometimes?—A. No, sir. He called me into the office to talk about the work one Saturday night after I went there. Q. Did you punch the clock?—A. Sometimes I did and sometimes I didn’t. Q. Didn’t they pay you by the clock?—A. No, they didn’t pay me that way. Q. Didn’t they pay everybody by j the clock?—A. They paid me $1.10 a ! day. Q. Don’t you work by the hour?— A. Yes. sir. Q. How much? A. Eleven cents an hour. Q. Did you miss any time?—A. Sometimes. Q. Wouldn’t they dock you w hen you were not punched right on the clock'.’ —A, Surnames Mr. Frank would come out and say he didn't dock me for the time I missed. Q. Why did he tell you that?—A. 1 don’t know, sir. He Just come out said he hadn’t docked me. Q. They didn't ask you how r long you had been there?—A No, they just asked me If I was there. Q. You say the first time you watched was hack there in July? You don’t know the name of the man?—A. Yes, the man was Dalton. Q. You don’t know the name of th* woman, do you?—A. No. but she lives on West Hunter street. Toll Name of Woman. Q. Do you know the name of the woman who was with Frank?—A. Yes, her name was Daisy Hopkins. She worked on the fourth floor Q. He asked you to watch?—A. Yes. Q. What time was It?—A. 3 or 3:20. Q What did Frank say to you?— A. He called me to hls office and said: “You see that young lady go ing out?" I said: ‘Yes. sir.’ He said: "Watch the door, and don’t let any body but them in.' Q. Was the woman, Daisy Hop kins, at the office then?—A. Yes. Q. What did the other woman do? A. She went out and came back later with a man that was Dalton. Q. What did they rto?—A. They went into Mr. Frank’s office. Q. How long did they stay?—A. About 10 or 15 minutes. Q. Did they coine out?—A. Yes. after a while. The man and the woman came out. Mr. Frank said: Ml right, Jim.’’ Q. Then the man’s name was James Dalton?—A. No. he was talking to me. Q. What did they do?—A. They came down and went towards the basement. Q What did 3’ou do?—A. I went back and opened the trap door for them. Q How long did they stay down there?—A. I don’t know. Q. Frank stayed in his office?—A. Yes. Q. What time did he leave?—A. About 4:30. Q. What time did the people down- staii-s go?—A. I don’t know exactly, but they came up and went to Mr. Frank's office. Q. Was the front door locked?—A. No. sir. I was standing there watch ing it. Q. Was that the first time this happened?—A. Yes. Q When did it happen again?— About the last part of July, or the first part of August. Q. When did Mr. Frank tell you about it?—A. That same Saturday morning. Q. What did he say?—A. He said. "Well, you know what you did for me ’ast Saturday?” I said: “Yes, sir.” He said: “I want to put you wise to this Saturday.” Q. What happened after this?—A. After Mr. Holloway left, Miss Daisy Hopkins came in. Q. Did she see you?—A. Yes. sir. Q. Did anybody else come that day? A. No. sir. Q How long did she stay up there? A. About half an hour. Q. Did he give you any money?—A. Yes. sir; he gave me half a dollar. Q. When was the next time?—A. I don’t hardly remember; it wrs near wintertime. Q. About what time? A. About th© middle of August. Q. I thought you said it was near winter?—A. Well, that’s near winter. Q. Middle of August near winter! It's mighty hot then.—A. Yes. sir; it’s pretty near winter. Q. What did Frank say?—A. He said: "I’m going to put you wise.” Q. That’s what he said every time, was it—"I’m going to put you wise?" A. Yes. sir; something like that. But he said what he did in a funny way. She Had Red Hair ‘‘Like Mr. Hooper." Q. Who was the woman?—A. T don’t know who she w r as. Q. How* did she look?—A. She h.^d hair like Mr. Hooper. Q. How do you know Mr. Hooper so well? He has questioned you a lot, hasn’t he?—A. No, sir; I never saw* him but once before. v Q. She w r as gray-haired, then. w*a>-. she? You see Mr. Hooper is gray- haired. old and broken with a j ome- what weasly appearance.—A. I don’t know w'hether he is gray or not. Her hair was like his. Q What color was her dress?—A. It was green. Q. What kind of clothes d.d she have on the first time?—A. A white waist and black skirt. Q. When did you see her last? -A. The morning 1 was arrested. Q. What did she hav* on then?—A. A black skirt with paiiv spots on it Q. You swept the fourth floor?—A- Yes. Q. Saw that little girl on the fourth floor every day, didn’t you?—A. Not ail the time, but often. Q. That first time he told you not to tell Darley, didn't he? A. Yes. Q. What time was it. Thanksgiving Day?—A. I don't recall. Q. Who came down first?—A. Mr. Frank. Q. What did he do?—A. He went to the front door and opened it and looked out. Q. What did he do then?—A. He w'ent to the stairway door and lei the woman out and walked to the front door with her As she passed me the lady said, “Is that the negro?” and he said. "Yes. that’s him. He is the best negro in the State.” Frank Walked to Door With Her. Q. Did he walk out?—A. No, h* just walked to the door with her and came back. Q. How was she dressed?—A. A blue dotted dress and a gray coat that looked like it was tailored, white shoes and white stockings. Q. What kind of a hat?—A. A big black hat with big feathers. Q. Did you see that woman in the office before?—A. I thought 1 saw her in his office sometime before Thanks giving. Q. What did she have on?—A. I don’t know'. Q. What kind of a looking girl was ^he?—A. A tall, heavy set girl. Q. Who else was there in the of fice?—A. Friends of Mr. Frank. Q. What time was it?—A. About 8 o’clock. Q. What were you doing there at that time?—A. Stacking some boxes. Q. Any jewelry?—A. 1 didn’t notice any. Q. What was the next time after Thanksgiving?—A. Along after Fhristmas. Q. What time?—A. I don’t know exactly. Q. What is vour best guess?—A. It was some time about the first of Jan uary. Q. When did Mr. Frank speak to you about it the first time?—A. I don’t remember. Q. You don’t remember anything about it except thet you watched?— A. Yes. sir. I do remember one t ing O. I thought you said you didn’t remember anything?—A. les. sir; Mr. Frank told me a man with two wo men would be there and I might make ,i piece of change off of the man. Q When was this?—A. About 7:3h. Q. I thought you said you didn't COTTLE* AT -L O'CPOCH Ore Flit’S'T* rkOOT& Oie OKE- lCVLiF HOUK- KITE'S? QlRi/ DBJO He tvas accompanied by W. M. Smith, his lawyer, and Chief of Police James L. Beavers. He spent the noon recess; at the police station. The negro went straight to the stand and waited for court to open. Frank, who was in the room, sat w’itb his back turned to the witness stand and talked to his wife. Conley showed no signs of nervous ness. and for the greater part of the five minutes he kept his hands locked in his lap and gazed calmly at the curious faces turned hls way. Just as Judge Roan walked to the stand, Deputy Sheriff Plennie Minot announced all women would be ex cluded from the room for the re mainder of the hearing. Reluctantly they vacated the seats they had se cured and held during the noon re cess. Fully 150 women w*ere barred by the ruling. Rot*ser resumed his cross- examination at five minutes after 2 o’clock. Q. Who saw f you at the police sta tion?—A. Chief Beavers. Q. Anybody else?—A. My lawyer. William Smith. Q. What did they say?—A. Well, my lawyer— “I object," said Attorney Hooper. "You can’t bring out what took place between him and his lawyer.’’ Didn’t Remember About Time. Q. Well. Jim, what did you do on the Saturday before you watched for Mr. Frank the first time?—A. I don’t know. Q. What did you do the Saturday after that?—A. I don’t know, sir, 1 disremember. Q. What about the Saturday after that?—A. Well, long about August 1 I watched again. Q. Le'. me see if I get that right —one Saturday you didn’t watch and the next Saturday you did. The next Saturday you didn’t watch, and the next Saturday you did, and then you didn’t watch any more until Tnanks- giving?—A. I don’t know exactly. 1 can’t count it like you. Q. Well, I got it like you said, SEASHORE EXCURSION AUGUST 7. Jacksonville, Brunswick, St. Simon, Cumberland, At lantic Beach, $6.00—Limit ed 6 days. Tampa, Fla., $8 —Limited 8 days. TWO SPECIAL TRAINS. 10 p. m. solid Pullman train. 10:15 p. m. Coach train. Make Reservations Now. SOUTHERN RAILWAY L. O. Grice, a stenographer in the offices of the Atlanta and West Point Railroad, was the first witness called. He said that he saw Frank on Sunday morning after the murder and Frank attracted his attention by his undue nervousness. Grice said he was on the way to the Terminal Station when he bougnt an “extra” stating that a murder had been committed at the National Pen cil Factory. He said he stopped by the pencil factory and saw eight men on the inside of the building. “Did any of these men attract your particular attention?” asked Solicitor Dorsey.—A. Two or three of them did. Q. Who were they?—A. When I went in the building Detective Black, whom I knew, was asking a great many questions. Q. Did anybody attract your atten tion by their nervousness?—A. Not right then, but later we went down through the basement and out the back door. Then I was attracted by the nervous actions of a small dark man. I did not know him. Q. Is this the man? (Pointing to Frank.)—A. Yes. Shows How Frank Acted. Q. What did Frank say? A. He said something about looking for his pin. Detective Black told him they had already looked for it. Q. Just tell the jury how Frank acted.—A. He did ilke this, (The wit ness stood up and walked about the stand with his head bent, intently gazing at the floor. His hands, with the fingers extended, were shaking.) Rosser took the witness on cross- examination. Q. When were you served to ap pear as a witness?—A. Last Satur day. Q. How did you come to be called? A. I told my friends and they prob ably told Mr. Dorsey. Q. When you saw that that little girl was murdered, did it not affect you?—A. Yes. some. Q. You were excited, were you not. just like an ordinary human being? —A. Yes. Q. Did you show your excitement? —A. I might have. Q. You don’t recall whether anyone else was nervous, do you?—A. No. Dobbs Is Recalled. The witness left the stand and Ser geant L. S. Dobbs w r as recalled. » Q. Mr. Dobbs, did you find a hand kerchief in that basement?—A. About ten feet toward the rear from the- body, Q. Is this It?—Yes. Rosser cross-examined the witness. Q. The haindkerchief was about ten feet beyond her feet on the left hand side of the building?—A. Yes. Solicitor Dorsey took the witness again. « He had Sergeant Dobbs identify a flashlight photograph of the spot w'here the body w r as found. Rosser questioned the witness again. , Q. Do you recognize in this picture the handsome countenance of our friend, John Black?—A. Y’es. Dobbs w r as excused. Handkerchief as Evidence. Solicitor Dorsey gained consent to tender the handkerchief as evidence. Mell Stanford, an employe of the pencil factory, was recalled to the stand. i Q. What w'as the condition of the door in the rear of the second floor of the pencil factory leading to the stairs that led tt> the third floor on the Friday afternoon before the mur der?—A. It was barred. Q. Is there any other way to get out that way except those steps.—A. None except the fire escapes. Q. Was the floor cleaned subse quent to the murder?—A. Yes, some time in the early part of the week. Mr. Rosser took the witness. Q. Did you clean It?—AA. No, I saw a negro doing it. Q. Who was he?—A. I don’t know Undertaker Gives Formula. The witness was excused and Wil liam Gheeslin, the undertaker, was recalled. Q. Are there curtains on the out side of the room in which Mary Pha- gan’s body was placed?—A. Yes. Q. I don’t want you to disclose the formula of your fluids, but I w^ant to know if there is formaldehyde In It? —A. Yes. I will state that there is S per cent of formaldehyde. “I object,” said Mr. Rosser, “for him to bring out one ingredient without the others.” "Well,” said Mr. Dorsey, “I don’t want him tQ disclose his formula when it Is a secret with him, and I hope that Mr. Rosser will not try to force him to do so. "Mr Rosser tried to bring out from Dr. Hurt that the lungs were not congested. I want to show' that for maldehyde cleaned them out.” Didn’t Point Out Scar. Finally it was agreed that Mr. Gheeslin should shqw his formula to the attorneys and the Jury. Rosser took the witness on cross- examination. Q. Mr. Gheeslin, when Detective Black, Boots Rogers and Mr. Frank were in your undertaking establlsh- ment, didn’t you point out th© scar on the little girl’s head?—A, No. Q. Instead of there being a cur tain to the entrance to the room in the undertaking room where Mary Phagan’s body was lying there was a bathrobe and a small coat hanging on the door?—A. Yes. The witness was excused. Mrs. Arthur Ellis was called, but did not answ’er. Jim Conley was called at 9 :45. State May Rest Wednesday. The second w’eek of the Frank trial opened Monday morning with the in dication that the State would not conclude with the presentation of its case before Tuesday night at the earliest. In the event that the cross- examination of Jim Conley required the time the lawyers for the defense intimated they would devote to it, there was a strong possibility that the prosecution would not rest much be fore Wednesday afternoon. The conclusion of the testimony of Dr. H. F. Harris was regarded as of scarcely less importance than the story of Conley. Dr. Harris was on the stand Friday and created a gen uine sensation by declaring that Mary Phagan could not have lived more than half or three-quarters of an hour after she ate her simple midday meal and started from home for the Na tional Pencil Factory. He came to this determination from the fact thit the cabbage she had eaten for din ner had undergone scarcely any change from the digestive juices when he examined the contents of her stomach. The physician also strengthened the State’s indictment charging strangu lation by declaring that this was as suredly the cause of her deatn, the blow on the back of the head being insufficient to produce more than a temporary unconsciousness. In the midst of his startling testi mony, which was the first evidence brought out by th© State that was not already known by the public, he collapsed. Solicitor Dorsey had planned to ask him a number of other questions, but was forced to stop w’here he was. The defense, it may be supposed from the ungentle man ner in which they attacked the doc tor’s statements the next morning with another of the State’s medical experts on the stand, also was plan ning to question Dr. Harris at length. Whether any other revelations of importance as the result of Dr. Har ris' examinations of the body at the first and second exhumation would have been made under the examina tion and cross-examination can only be determined when Dr. Harris again takes the stand. It also is prob lematical whether the physician will testify with such assurance and pro fessional ease W’hen he gets under the grilling cross-fire of Reuben Arnold, who knows a little medicine and physiological causes and effects him self. The prosecution, before it finishes, has still other witnesses to call. An expert in abdominal surgery, to cor roborate the testimony of Dr. Har ris, probably will be one of them. Solicitor Dorsey would not reveal his name Monday morning. ^ Harry Denham and Arthur White, the factory employees w'ho were on the fourth floor of the building Sat urday forenoon and in th e afternoon until 3 o’clock, are expected to be questioned briefly by the Solicitor be fore he concludes the presentation of his evidence. Their testimony is not regarded as of special value, except to establish the time when Frank came to their floor to tell that he was going to leave and lock the front door. 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