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/ THE ATLANTA C.EOHf.TAN A NT) NEWS. <( WRAPPED HER BODY UP LIKE DIRTY CLOTHES,” SAYS CONLEY Whole Court Audience Keyed to Catch Every Word of the Witness (Continued from Page Two.) here In Atlanta. Q When did you get your flr*t Job? -—A. About eleven yea. ago. Q. When you were about 16 yea-i old?—A. No. I was about eleven years old Q. What year was that?—About 1901. I won’t be sure. Q. Can you read newspaper*?—A- Not much, I read them some. Q. Do you read them often?—A. I pick them up now nd then. Q. What do you read?—A. Lift'* words like "this" and "that'* Q. They are pretty common word-* In the newspapers, aren’t they?—A. Yes. Tries Conley on Spelling. Q. Can you spell "school?”—A. Yea. Q. Color?—A. No. Q. Shirt?—A. Yes. Q. Cat?—A. Yes Q. Do you spell It with a ”k" or with a ”c?”—A. With a "k.” Q Can you spell "mother?”—A. No. Q. Can you spell "papa?"—A. Yes. Q. How?—A. P a-p a Q. Can you spell "day?”—A. Yes. Q. "Daylight?"—A. Yea Q. Can you spell "beer?”—A Yes. Q. Can you spell "whisky?*'—A. No. Q. Ix>ok at this picture and tell me If you can read any of these words?—■ A. No. Q. Do you know your figures?—A. Yes Q. You know' a good deal more about figures than you do about spell ing. don’t you?—A. Yes. I can count better than I can spell. Q. Then you are better at figuring than you are at writing?—A. Yes; 1 arr. better at counting. Q. Well, isn’t figuring counting?— A. I don't know. Q You don’t know you are 27 years old, do you. Jim?—A. Yes. Mir. that’s v hat my mother said. Q When did you go to school?—A. Pefore I went to work. Q You don’t know where it was? — A Yea. it was at tha Mitchell street school. Q. Who was your teacher?—A. Miss Aaron Cook. Q. Who was the principal?—A Miss Corey. Q. Wnat year was it?—A I don't know. Q. What did you do for Dr. Pal mer?—A I drove for him Quizzed About Formor Employment. Q. How long did you work for Mr Coates?—A. About five years. Q. He ran a pressing club?—A. No, sir. he ran a woodyard Q Do you remember any of the names of the white men who worked there?—A. Yes. Mr. Babe. I think. Q. He wasn’t ’Baby’, was he?—A. No, sir. Q. Jim. when you went to the Na tional Pencil Factory, who employed you?—A. Mr. Herbert Schlff Q WTio paid off?—A. Mr. BchlfT and sometimes Mr. Frank. Q. (live me the dates Mr Frank paid off.—A I hardly ever drew my money. 1 had somebody draw mine, usually. Q. Why did you do that?—A. Wall, I owed money, and I wanted to get it and get away without them getting It all. Q. Did you not owe the boys more than you wanted to pay them?—A No. sir, I Just owed 10 or 15 men. Q. What were you drawing?—A. $6.05. Q. Who else worked there?—A. Joe Bryce. Q. What did he draw?—A. He said $6.48. Q. What made him tell you that?— A. We w'ere arguing down in the basement. Q. Did you tall him what you drew?—A No. Q. Why didn’t you tell him?—A. 1 Health Restored by Eckman’s Alterative If you »tv a wifferer from Glaniluler TuN*r cuIimU. or Know of anyone a© afflicted. It might hr «rll to investigate this case, where the writer declares after a year of suffering, he found per lament relief ami full recovery to health by using Eckmuns Alterative, a medicine which has been effective In many cases <4 TuiierruloHia 15“ l.arualon St.. Phlla . Ha. '’Gentlemen In March, 1999, my doctor pro nounced my caae Tulxrculosln In the Glanda.’ M>d a nuuiler of operations In a hospital failed , to benefit me In the meantime, a friend of mine aJvtaed Kckinan'a Alterative. The wounds In niy Leek were still open and In a frightful * 1 * * condition when I start'd to take It After using i tv*» bottles I found 1 was improving, having gained weight, could eat and was able to aleep 1 1 continued using It until I waa well, which , waa In Novemt«er. 1910. Before I took the n»edl cine I had three hemorrhage*; since 1 have been taking It I have not had any On Nonaler 11, 1910, 1 started to work, and alnce that time I have not loat one day’s work through tick ness I highly recommend Kckman*a Alterative to any one who Is suffering from Gland trouble.' (Affidavit» JOSEPH B WHITE ( (Above abbreviated more on request 1 ( Kckman s Alterative has t**en proven by many ‘ years' test to be most efficacious in case* c4 se- ; r «*re Throat end Lung Affections. Bronchitis. / Bronchial Asthma. Stubborn Colds and in up- , building the system. Doe* not contain narcotics, /poisons or habit forming drugs. For sale by ( all of Jacobs Drug Stores and other leading (druggists Write the Eckman Laboratory. Phlla ( delphla. Pa . for booklet telling of recoveries s and additional evidence. didn’t think It was any *f hU busi ness. Q. You didn’t want him to know? A. No, sir. Q. All you had to do wan to put your envelope in your pocket and he couldn’t see It, or toll what wan In it?—A. Yea. Settled Hi* Bills by Buying Beer. Q Then If you owed this fellow Bryce money, you were afraid to get It while he wag there?—A No. Q. Why didn’t you settle with them?—A. I usually settled with them at the beer a&loon by buying t wice a« much beer. Q. Didn't you nay a while ago that you owed Joe Bryce some money?—A. No, I said Walter. Q Then the reason you didn't draw your money waa that you wanted to get It and get away without paying money?—A. Sometimes. Q What time did the night watch man come?—A I don’t know. I never saw him come to work. g. You never raw the watchman there?—A. I saw the white watchman get his money there. g. At what time did he come?—A. About 2 o’clock. g. Did you see old man Newt Lee? there?—A. No. I heard he was. g. Who was there before Newt?— A. Old man Kendrick. g. Who was there before that?—A His son, I think g. What time did they pay off on Saturdays? Waa It 12 o’clock?—A. Sometimes 12, sometimes a quarter to 12 and sometimes at 11:30. g. Now you said you watched for Mr. Frank, didn’t you?—A. Yes. I g. When was the first time you j ever watched for Mr. Frank?—A. Sometime last summer. Frank Called Him Into Offioe. g. What did Mr. Prank say to you? A. He came out and called me Into his office. g. What did he say?—A. Well, he sometimes talked to me about the work. g. When did he first call you In and talk to you about th e work? Didn’t he call you In during the week, sometimes?—A. No, sir. He called me into the office to talk about the work one Saturday night after I went there. g Did you punch the clock? —A. Sometimes I did and sometimes I didn’t. g. Didn’t they pay you by the clock?—A. No, they didn’t pay me that way. g. Didn’t they pay everybody by the clock?—A. They paid me $1.10 a day. g. Don't you work by the hour?— A. Yes, sir. g. How much? A. Eleven cents an hour. g. Did you miss any time?—A. Sometimes. g. Wouldn’t they dock you when you were not punched right on the clock? —A. Sometimes Mr. Frank would come out and say he didn't dock me for the time I missed. g. Why did he tell you that?—A. 1 don’t know, sir. He Just come out said he hadn’t docked me. g. They didn’t ask you how long you had been there?—A. No, they Just asked me if 1 was there. g. You SAy the first time you watched was back there In July? You don’t know the name of the man?—A. Yes. the man was Dalton. g. You don’t know the name of the woman, do you?—A. No, but she lives on West Hunter street. Tell Name of Woman, g. Do you know the name of the woman who was with Frank?—A. Yes, her name was Daisy Hopkins. She worked on the fourth floor g. He asked you to watch?—A. Yes. g. What time was It?—A. 3 or 3:20. g. What did Frank say to you?— A. He called me to his office and said: "You see that young lady go ing out?" I said: ‘Yes, sir.’ He said: "Watch the door, and don’t let any body but them in.’ g. Was the woman, Daisy Hop kins, at the office then?—A. Yes. g What did the other woman do? A. She went out and came back later with a man that waa Dalton. g. What did they do?—A. They went Into Mr. Frank’s office. g. How long did they stay?—A About 10 or 15 minutes. g. Did they come out?—A. Yes. after a while. The man and the woman came out. Mr. Frank said: 'All right, Jim.” g. Then the man’s name was James Dalton?—A. No, he was talking to me. g. What did they do?—A. They came down and went towards the basement. g. What did you do?—A. 1 went back and opened the trap door for them. g How long did they stay down there?—A. I don’t know. g. Frank stayed In his office?—A. Yes. g. What time did he leave?—A. About 4:30. g. What time did the people down I stairs go?—A. I don’t know exactly, but they came up and went to Mr. I Frank’s office. g. Was the front door locked?—A. | No, sir, I w’as sta ding there watch Ing It. g. Was that the first time this happened?—A. Yes. g. When did it happen again?—A. I About the last part of July, or the j first part of August g. When did Mr. Frank tell you I about it?—A. That same Saturday morning g. What did he say?—A. He said, j "Well, you know what you *dld for me last Saturday?” I said: "Yes, sir." LEO FRANK AND FIVE LINKS'IN CHAIN STATE HAS WOVEN FOR HIM nowfwx' vtoM-&-VP *KYV V SPX-W. S- ■vof omeu 'aeT'^r^iyK'i&.Os xvro Vital points in evidence against Frank illustrated by artist P. A. Carter. at the pencil factory, haven’t you?—A. Yes. g. Let’s* go back a tittle—the clay you found this child was April 26? You knew the factory was not going to rue. that day? A Yi i g. You saw the placards telling that it would be a holiday?—A. Yes. Q. Did you read them?—A. Mr. Campbell read them to me. So did Snowball. Drank Beer in Factory. g. What was on the placards?—A. I don’t know'. He read something about the factory W'ould be closed down on April 26. Q. You and Snowball were good friends?—A. Yes. g. Did you drink beer together?— sir, except laughing and Joking. Q. When did he ever Joke with you and what did he say?—A. I don’t know, sir, Just when. g. Who heard him say anything? Tell me one thing he ever said Joking to you? Recalls One “Little Joke. ’ "Your honor,” said Attorney Hoop er, "I object to the manner of ques tioning. He doesn’t give the witness time to answer. I don’t think he In tends to be unfair, but the witness just doesn’t have time to answer.” "If that Is the case, it is wrong,’ 1 said Judge Roan. "You ought to know',” returned Ros ser. "You have heard all the ques tions.” "Don’t ask the questions too fast,’ returned the judge, and the case pro ceeded. ’ g. When did he jolly with you the last time?—A. I can’t recall. Q. Give one little joke you evex heard him crack?—A. I can’t. Q. Give just one?—A. One day h# hollered down the elevator and said "If you don’t hurry up with that ele vator I will start a graveyard dowr in the basement." Q. What else?—A. Well, he woulc pinch me. g. Did Mr. Holloway or Mr. Dar- ley see that?—Mr. Holloway did. Q. Do you remember what time yot w'ent to the factory to work?—A •About two years ago. Q. Do you remember the year?—A I think it was 1910. Q. How do you know?—A. I heart Mr. Schiff say. Q. How many girls w r ere there?—A Emma Clark, Miss Hill, Rebecca Car- son—I can’t recall how many. Carried Note Tor Girl. Q What girls were on the fourtl floor in 1912?—A. Miss Daisy Hopkim waa mere. g. W as she there in 1913?—A. No sir. g. Do you know where she lived’ He said: "I want to put you wise to this Saturday.” g. What happened after this?—A. After Mr. Holloway left, Miss Daisy Hopkins came In. g. Did she see you?—A. Yes. sir. g. Did anybody els© come that day? A. No, sir. g. How long did she stay up there? A. About half an hour. g. Did he give you any money?—A. Yes, sir; he gave me half a dollar. g. When was the next time?—A. 1 don’t hardly remember; It was near wintertime. g. About what time?—A. About the middle of August. g. I thought you said it was near winter?—A. Well, that’s near winter. g. Middle of August near winter! It’s mighty hot then.—A. Yes, sir; it’s pretty near winter. g. What did Frank say?—A. He said: "I’m going to put you wise." g. That’s what he said every time, was it—"I’m going to put you wise?" A. Yes, sir; something like that. But he said what he did in a funny way. She Had Red Hair. Q. Who was the woman?—A. I don’t know’ who she was. g. How did she look?—A. She had hair like Mr. Hooper. g. How do you know Mr. Hooper so well? He has questioned you a lot, hasn’t he?—A. No, sir; I never saw him but once before. g. She was gray-haired, then, was she? You see Mr. Hooper is gray haired. old and broken with a some what weasly appearance.—A. I don’t know whether he is gray or not. Her hair was like his. g. What color was her dress?—A. It was green. g. What kind of clothes did she have on the first time?—A. A whits waist and black skirt. g. When did you see her last?—A The morning I was arrested. g. What did she have on then?—A. A black skirt W'ith paint spots on it g. You swept the fourth floor?—A. Yes. g. Saw that little girl on the fourth floor every day, didn’t you?—A. Not all the time, hut often. g. That first time he told you not to tell Darley, didn't he? A. Yes. g. What time was it, Thanksgiving Day?—A. I don't recall. g. Who came down flrst?—A. Mr. Frank. g. What did he do?—A. He went to the front door and opened it and looked out g. What did he do then?—A. He went to the stairway door and let the woman out and walked to the front door with her. As she passed me the lady said, "Is that the negro?" | and he said, "Yes, that's him. He jk-T -l o’cwoctc ore nit 5 S't* rLOOiB/ Ole UOU52. AFTEtt? Q\RLf Is the best negro in the State." g. Did he walk out?—A. No, he Just walked to the door with her and came back. g. How was she dressed 7 —A. A blue dotted dress and a gray coat that looked like It was tailored, white shoes and white stockings. g. What kind of a hat?—A. A big black hat with big feathers. g. Did you see that woman in the office before?—A. I thought I saw her In h!s office sometime before Thanks giving. g. What did she have on?—A. I don’t know'. g. What kind of a looking girl was she?—A. A tall, heavy set girl. g. Who else was there in the of fice?—A. Friends of Mr. Frank. g. What time was it?—A. About 8 o’clock. g. What were you doing there at that time?—A. Stacking some boxes, g. Any Jewelry?—A. I didn’t notice I any. j g. What was the next time after j Thanksgiving?—A. 4 * * Along after ! Christmas. g. What time?—A. I don’t know ; exactly. g. What is your best gues9?—A. It was some time about the flrst of Jan | u&ry. Q When did Mr. Frank speak to you about it the flrst time?—A. I don’t ! remember. g. You don’t remember anything about it except that you watched?— A. Yes. sir; I do remember one thing g. I thought you said you didn’t remember anything?—A. Y’es, sir; Mr. Frank told me a man with two wo men would be there and I might make a piece of change off of the man. Q. When was this?—A. About 7:30 g. I thought you said you didn’t remember? Why didn’t you tell that then?—A. Y'ou cut me off so sharp I didn’t have a chance. g. What time did they come?—A. Some time about 2:30 or 3 o’clock. g. What did he say?—A. He asked me If Mr. Frank had put me wise. g. He and Frank used the same ex pression?—A. Yes, sir. g. How were the women dressed?— A. 1 don’t remember. Court was then adjourned until 2 o’clock. Jim Conley was brought to the courtroom at five minutes to 2 o’clock He was accompanied by W. M. Smith his lawyer, and Chief of Police James L. Beavers. He spent the noon recess at the police station. The negro went straight to the stand and waited for court to open. Frank, who was in the room, sat with his back turned to the witness stand and talked to his wife. Conley showed no signs of nervous ness, and for the greater part of the five minutes he kept his hands locked in his lap and gazed calmly at the curious faces turned his way. Just as Judge Roan walked to the stand, Deputy Sheriff Plennie Mi not announced all women would be ex cluded from the room for the .re mainder of the hearing. Reluctantly they vacated the seats they had se cured and held during the noon re- Fully 150 women were barred by the ruling. Rosser resumed his cross- examination at five minutes after 2 o’clock. g. Who saw you at the police sta tion?—A. Chief Beavers. g. Anybody else?—A. My lawyer. William Smith. g What did they say?—A. Well, my lawyer— "I object," said Attorney Hooper. "You can’t bring out what took place between him and his lawyer.” Didn’t Remember About Time. g. Well, Jim, what did you do on the Saturday before you watched fori Mr. Frank the flrst time?—A. I don’t know. g. What did you do the Saturday after that?—A. I don’t know, sir, 1 disremfmber. g. What about the Saturday after that?—A. Well, long about August 1 I watched again. g Le. me see if I get that right —one Saturday you didn’t watch and the next Saturday yoU did. The next Saturday you didn’t watch, and the next Saturday you did, and then you didn’t watch any more until Thanks giving?—A. I don’t know exactly. 1 can’t count It like you. Q. Well, I got it like you said, didn't I. Jim?—A. The last time 1 watched was about the last of Sep tember. g. Jim. what time was it you watched the second Saturday?—A. 1 don’t remember, sir. g. You don't know what time you ieft for home?—A. No. sir. g. Jim, we don’t want any contro versy between us, but tell all about these times you watched.—A. 1 done told you like I remember them Q. When did you draw your pay, before or after Thanksgiving day?— A. I can’t remember. Q. The day aftej* Thanksgiving day what did you do?—A. I came back ,o work. Q. Who did you see?—A. Mr. Frank. g. Who else?—A. I can’t recall. Q. Did you see Mr. Darley?—A. I don’t remember. g. That first time you watched, how many hours did you work and what did you get?—A. $1.25. g. I mean w r hat did you get for your services?—A. I don’t remembe.1. g. Where were you living in July, 1912?—A. 37-B Vine street. g. How long did you live there?— A. I don’t know. Part of that time I was in prison. Q. What time did you go to prison? —A. I can’t .remember. Q, What length of time were you there?—A. Two or three days. Q. You can’t remember what time you got there arlfl got out?—A.-No. g. When you got out, your woman had moved?—A. Yes. g. Where to?—A. 122 Rhodes street. Q. Who were you living with?—A. Lorena. Can't Remember Prison Terms. g. The same one you were living with when you were arrested?—A. Yes. g. When were you in prison again? —A. I can t remember. Q. Before or after Christmas?—A. I can’t recall. g. Was it cold or hot?—A. I can’t recall. g. How long were you there?—A. About twenty days. g. Were you in prison before that first time you told rne of?—A. Right after I went to the pencil company g. How r long were you there?—A. About 30 days. g. How many times were you in prison since you went to the pencil factory?—A. Three times. g. How many times altogether?— A. Four or five times. g. You can’t recall the number of times?—A. No. g. Was it six—A. Yes, five or six. g. Can you remember the first?— A. No. g. You can’t remember the flrst time you w’ere in prison?—A. No. g. You can’t remember any time at all?—A. No. g. You can’t tell how long you were in at all?—A. No. g. First time?—A. No. Q. Second time?—A. No. Q. Third time?—A. No. Thinks It Was Seven Time*, g. Fourth?—A. No. g. Fifth?—A. 1911. g. What month?—A. I don't re member g. Sixth time?—A. It was after that. g. Seventh time?—A. After that, g. You can’t tell what time?—A. No. g. What about the eighth time?— A. I didn’t say I had been arrested eight times. You said that. g. But you don't know w hether you have been arrested seven or eight times?—A. I think it was seven. Q. You have been arrested three times while you have been working A. Yes. Q. Did you ever get drunk in the factory?—A. No. Q. Did you drink beer there?—A. Yes. Q. How much would you drink each day?—A. A dime’s worth each day. g. Where would you drink it?—A. In the basement. g. Did you s«ee Snowball Thanks giving?—A. No, but I saw him the day before or after. g. How long did Sitowball work there?—A. I don’t know. g. Was he an educated negro?—A. I don’t know. Q. He could read, couldn’t he?—A. Yes, he used to pick up funny papers and read them to me. He did this once. Q. That time when you watched him in January, was Snwball there? —A. Yes. g. He walked right up and began talking to you both?—I don’t know whether Snowball was there. Six Negroes Worked In Plant. Q. Couldn’t you see ihm?—A. Snow ball was in the back. There was a partition between him and Mr. Frank. g. Well, Mr. Frank wouldn’t have come if he had heard, would he?— A. No, sir. I don’t guess he would. Q. You worked all the time for two years?—A. Y’es, except a few times when 1 was in jail. g. Who worked in your place when you were in jail?—A. I don’t know. g, You have no recollection about it?—A. No, sir. g. Besides yourself and Snowball, how many other negroes worked there?—A. I don’t know, sir. Q. Ever count them up? Conley counted on his fingers and then announced six. Q. Six with you and Snowball?—A. Yes. Q, You all did just plain labor, you and Snowball and the fireman? You didn’t run any machines?—A. Y'es, sir. except the fireman. g. When was the first time Mr. Frank spoke to you?—A. I don’t know. Q. You were there three or four months before he even spoke to you? —A. o, sir. He had not spoke to me j about anything but business for some time. Q. When was the first time he spoke to you about anything but business? —A. Do you mean about these private things? Q. Yes, wasn’t that flrst Saturday the ■first time he ever spoke to you about anything but business.—A. Yes, g. now did she look?—A. She ii low, chunky and pretty. g. Was she dark or fair?—A. Sh< was fair. Q. What kind of ears did she have' —... a.nve luiivs’ ears. v*. ...u uiun t expect them to bt lik raobn,' did you?—A. No. Q. How did you know she was then in .... . oue gave lue a note foi Mr. iScniii. g. How do you know that was ir June?—A. It had that on the note, g. Did you read it?—A. No. g. Then how did you know?—A. Ht said something about June am laughed. g. That is all you know about it?— A. Yes. g. You never saw her before tha: Alien sne gave you the note?— A. No. _ ow did you fix the time whir i'ti .*—a. Mr. Dalton toiu me i was about Christmas, rrariK Appears Weary. Frank appeared very weary during the questioning of Conley, lie alter nated nis intent gaze from Mr. ltosbu to the negro witness. His eyeiiuj twitched nervously at intervals. Lv ery now and then he would take t deep breath. Mrs. Flank, his wife, sat with hti left arm around his shoulder. Hi; mother sat close on his left with he: eyes closed most of the time. Stil sue appeared to be listening, Mr. Rosser kept his seat while cross-questioning the witness. Aftei almost two hours’ o fgrilling he stil had not reached the story of the crime. He seemed to be waging <■ bund fight to entangle the negro. One listening to the constant rapic questioning felt that surely sooner oi later the brain of the negro woulc falter, but Conley kept responding readily, unfalteringly, about even other question with "I don’t know." Rosser resumed the questioning about Dalton. Describes Dalton. Q. Where did you see him?—A. Hi was coming out of the basement. g. What color was his hair?—A Black. He weighed about 135 height about like that (the witnesi indicated Mr. Arnold). g. How old was he?—A. About 35 g. Where did he live?—A. I don' know. Q. How many times did you se< him?—A. Several^ times. g. How many times—A. Only sev eral times. g. When did you see him the firs time?—A. He was coming out of th< basement that first time. g. When else?—A. That time Dais;* Hopkins brought him there. g. When else?—A. About Christ mas. Q. Did you see him Christmas?—A Not on Christmas Day. g. When did you see him?—A Along in January. Q. When was the last time yot saw him?—A. About six months ago g. Where was he?—A. The detec tives brought him down to the polic« station and asked me if I knew him. g. How was he dressed the flrsi time you saw him?—A. I don’t know Q. You don’t know what color hii suit was?—A. No, sir. g. How did he look?—A. He looked like a man who had Just finished Work and had dressed and come uf town. Worked in Holloway’s Place. Q. That first Saturday you watched was Mr. Darley or Mr. Hollowa> there?—A. Y'es, sir, but they left Continued on Page 8, Column 1. Are You Sick, Diseased, Nervous, Run Down? 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