Atlanta Georgian. (Atlanta, Ga.) 1912-1939, August 06, 1913, Image 2

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I ♦ r f I TTIK 'TT,A\TA f!!\OT?r,TAV AYR NT.WS had only gone on a certain length of time?—A. Yes. Q. Didn’t you say that certain cir cumstances retard digestion?—A. Yes. but I didn't say that anything could retard tho flow of the digestive juices. No one has ever shown that anything could retard the process of digestion. Head Wound Not Serious. Q. I believe you said that wound on the head did not cause any pres sure on the brain?—A. Yes. Q. Was it cut through to the skull? —A. Yes. Q. What arteries were there?—A. Only some trifling blood vessels. Q. I believe you said It might have bled a good deal?—A. Yes, it might. A cut on the head usually causes a good deal of blood to flow. Q. I believe you said it was not sufficient to have caused death?—A. Yes, I did. Solicitor Dorsey then took the wit ness.. Q. Mr. Arnold was asking you yes terday about poisons. Was there any evidence on the mucous membrane of poisons?—A. There could not have been any irritant poisons. Their evi- show indigestion?—A. No. Very many people have indigestion several years and don’t know it. They don’t even feel it themselves. Q. How long does the stomach take to free itself when It Is full?—A. That hao been Investigated rather thor oughly. but It varies. I would say about 7 1-2 hours. Q. How long does it take some sub stance that the stomach does not di gest to pass out?—A. That is hard to say. They probably pass through in a foreign body Q. How long would it take?—A. That depends. The ftomach doesn't like to free itself of meat until It Is emulsified. Then It goes out vert freely. About Digestion of Cabbage. Q. That is Just the point. Does the stomach emulsify cabbage or corn?—A. Oh, yes; there is always a constant churning motion. Q. How about corn?—A. It might pass through without emulsifying. Q. Peas?—A. Yes. Q. You would not attempt to enu merate what vegetables would pass through the stomach to the intestines? A. No, I would not. Q. Is it not a fact that the first knowledge of digestion comes from that Canadian case?—A. Yes. Q. Is it/not a fact that the only experiments before that time were made on rabbits and other animals for vegetables, and animals for meat? A. Yes. * Q. Is there any animal that eats everything that man does?—A. Yes, the swine. Q. Any other the cat does. Q. Well, isn’t the wildcat a carniv erous animal strictly?—A. I don’ ~~~ i i m to digest? I mean, leaving your ex periments and speaking from the viewpoint of science.—A. I don’t know that science has ever determined that. Q. Isn’t cabbage regarded as one of the hardest vegetables to digest?—A. I probably have heard that. It may be that after cabbage has gone through the stomach, trouble may be caused In the small Intestines that may be what has given the geenral idea that cabbage is hard to digest. Q. Didn’t you say when .you first testified that you couldn’t tell any thing about the bread in the stom ach?—A. I don’t think I made that statement. Mr. Arnold read his testimony previously given. Dr. Harris: “If I said that, I did not mean it in that sense. I meant that you could tell nothing about it by observing with the naked eye.” Q. You said It was impossible to state absolutely how long that cab bage had been in Mary Phagan’s stomach?—A. I meant I could not ■S N ‘ Continued Prom Page 1. asked the witness if he, in all his medical experience, had ever known of a physician of repute giving his opinion p.s to the unconsciousness »f a person with no more data than had been in the possession of I)r. Harris. Dr. Childs replied that he never had. B. Dalton, who His first testimony of Importance, 5f it was believed by the Jury, served utterly to demolish the most sensa tional declaration of Dr. Harris, who Ptartled his hearers last Friday by announcing with every appearance of certainty that Mary Phagan came to her death probably within 30 min utes of the time she ateh er dinner April 26. positively within 45 min utes. Dr. Harris stated that he knew because the cabbage he found in the girl's stomach hardly had been af fected by the digestive Juices Attorney Arnold showed Dr. Childs the specimen of cabbage from the Phagan girl’s stomach. The medical expert examined It and Bald: '*1 have ween cabbage less changed by the digestive Juices than that w hich had been in a person’s stomach Tor twelve hours.” Dr. Childs continued his rebuttal of testimony of Dr. Harris by saying that It was impossible to tell within tiours how long any of the carbo hydrates, of which cabbage Is one. have been In the human stomach. The digestive process on carbo hydrates. he declared, are practically nil while this class of foods is in the stomach. Cabbage, for example, may remain in the stomach for hours with little change from the digestive Juices. The digestion, for the most part, occurs after the cabbage has passed into the small intestines, the physician said. Dr. Harris' estimate, he declared, was only a guess. He characterised in the same man ner Dr. Harris’ declaration that the blow' Mary Phagan received on the back of the head caused unconscious ness. Arnold propounded to Ills witness a hypothetical question based on the circumstances under which Mary Phagan’s body was exhumed and ex amined nine days after burial. “If, under these circumstances,” said Arnold, "there was found a •wound on the back of her head which one physician said was 1 1-2 Inches long and another said was 2 1-4 Inches, and there was found no frac ture of the skull or injury to the brain, would any physician be Justi fied in saying that the person re ceiving the blow was rendered un conscious?" “He would have had to guess one way or the other,” said Dr. Childs. "There was absolutely no way t tell whether the blow caused uncon sciousness." Arnold also brought the startling testimony that a wound made from one to three hours after death has the same appearance as a ,vound shortly before death. The mysterious f was expected to make sensational revelations of incidents in which Leo Frank was alleged to have partici pated in the National Pencil Fac tory, proved a very tabe and common place witness when he was called Thursday. The most that Dalton could say was that, on several of his visits to the factory, he had seen women In Frunk’s office. He told of no com promising situations. He was not even able to identify the women. He did * not know whether or not they were members of Frank’s own fam ily. All that he knew was that they did not appear to be Stenographers as he never saw them writing. Dalton, wheh he was questioned by Luther Rosser, was not even sure of his own birthplace. He thought it was somewhere in Laurens County. He explained his presence by saying that he had gone to the factory with a Miss Daisy Hopkins. He said that he waw Frank in the office with two or three women, and that cool drinks generally were in evidence, (in one occasion he said Frank and his visi tors were drinking beer. Detective Rosser on the Stand. Detective Bass Rosser was on the witness stand for a few minutes and whh questioned briefly. He testified that when he saw Mrs. Arthur White the Monday after the crime she failed to tell him that she had seen a ne gro In the factory the Saturday the Starnes and Chief Beavers,” said Dor sey. Judge Roan ruled that he would let them go to the jury. Dorsey; State’s Case Nearly Finished. "Now, I want the cash book and the bank book of the National Pencil Company.” Arnold said they would be fur nished. Dorsey: “I want it understood as soon as Dr. Harris is able t6 complete his tes timony the State is ready to rest its case." "Mr. Dorsey,” said Arnold, “will you” tell Mr. Dalton not to leave. We may want to recall him.” Judge Roan declared a recess until Dr. Harris could reach the court. He said it would be about 10 o’clock. Dalton Recalled for Moment. Dorsey recalled the witness. I y. Were you ever in the pencil fac tory with Daisy Hopkins?—A. Yes. Q. Did you go to tho factory with her?—A. Yes. Q. Where was Frank?—A. In his office. Q. Where did you go?—A. In the j basement. Q. Did he know you were there?— j A. Yes. Q. Did Conley know you were there? j A. Yea. Q. Who else?- A. The night watch man at one time. Court then had a recess until Dr. H. F. Harris, who was excused from the witness stand Wednesday on ac count of illness, could arrive in court. The recess lasted for more than an | hour. Dr. Harris, when he arrived j upon the stand, was questioned upon cross-examination by Attorney Reu ben Arnold. Q. Unfavorable circumstances some times retard digestion, don't they?— A. Well, that is a very grave matter, and there is so little data on the sub ject it is hard to answer. About External Circumstances. Q. You would not say then that external circumstances, some undue mental excitement, might delay di gestion?—A. I really don’t know. There was an old Roman proverb that a person should take a walk aft er eating. Others say sleeping after a meal aids digestion. Q. Then there is no set rule for di gestion? Everybody is a rule unto themselves?—A. Not altogether. The average normal stomach is about the same in liigeMtlon. Q. There is no indication on the ! outside of the body that would indi cate how far digestion has gone?—A None whatever. Q. Don’t the pul-sv or temperature were you?—A. Somewhere in Walton County. Gave Conley Money. Q. As a matter of fact, you know where your family lived when you were horn, don’t you?—A. Somewhere near Lawrenceville. Solicitor Dorsey took the witness on the redirect examination. Q. DVI you ever give Jim Conley nnything?—A. Sometimes I would give him a quarter and sometimes 50 cents. Sometimes they would have cold drinks, and sometimes they would have beer. Rosser took the witness again. Q. When did you see beer there?— A. On Saturday afternoons—I don’t remember the dates. Q. Can you name specifically any time last fall that you went there?— A. Not the dAy, but it was some time o’clock in the afternoon. Mr. little later engaged in conversation | with his attorneys. Dr. Childs enter- t ed tho courtroom and talked several , minutes with the defendant. Mr. Arnold said: "Further than this witness I don’t Frank at the pencil factory?” asked Mr. Rosser. “Last fall some time.” Q. Where was Frank at that time? —A. At his office. Q. Who was in there with him?—A. Some ladies. Q. Were there any other men in there with him?—A. No; he was the only man. Q. Who was you with?—A. Miss Daisy Hopkins. Q. Do you know the names of the ladies in the office with Mr. Frank?— A. No. Q. Where did you go?—A. I went to the basement. Q. Was Miss Daisy with you?—A. Yes. (j. When did you go to the factory again?—A. Right before Christmas. Q. Who introduced you to Frank?— A. Miss Daisy Hopkins. Q. She Just said to Mr. Frank. "This is my friend, Mr. Dalton,” did she?— A. Yes. Went to Basement. Q. You were never in his office aft er Christmas?—A. No. Q. When you went into the factory with Miss Daisy, you went down to the basement with her. didn't you?— A. Yes. q. w'here did you go down into the basement?—A. We went down the ladder by the elevator. Q. Where did you go In the base ment?—A. Right to where there were some boxes in the little room In the rea r. Q. Where did you live last year?— A. No. 337 East Hunter street. Q. Who did you work for?—A. Mr. Heflin, n contractor. Q. Where did you \tfork after that? —A. With Captain John McGinnis. Q What time did you see Frank in * his office?—A. Some time between 2 and 3 o’clock. Q. Were the windows up?—A. I don’t know. Q. Did you see any curtains?—A No, but the office was very light. I Q. There were two windows In each office, weren’t there?—A. Yes. ► Q. Do you know whether there was anyone else In the factory when you * saw Mr. Frank?—A. Yes; the negroes were there. Saw Neg o Watchman. Q. What time at night was it when the night watchman was there?—A. 1 don’t know. Q. Was it a negro watchman?—A. i Yes Q Was that this year 0 —A. No. Q. Were you ever in Walton Coun- ! ty?—A. I lived there twenty years. Q. How long were you away from there?—A. I went to Lawrenceville for about a year. Q. How long ago?—A. I don’t know. I forget Just how long ago it was. Q. Did you ever go with anyone to the pencil factory except Miss Daisy * Hopkins?—A. Yes. 1 used to go to the Busy Bee and wait for the factory to l close to walk home with the girls. i Q. ('an you name the girls?—A. Yes; Miss Laura Atkinson and a Miss 1 Laura Smith, of No. 148 South Pryor .■ street Q. Do you go there any more?—A. i No; 1 haven’t been to the Busy Bee. l In a long time. » Q. Where were you born?—A I don’t know. r Q. When you first woke up, where A. I rather think STOMACH TROUBLES Horsford’s Acid Phosphate Produces healthy activity of weak end disor dered stomachs. An excellent strength builder. Adr. after Frank would have the cold drinks on a waiter in his office. Can’t Give Women’s Names. Q. And that is a« definite as you can fix it?—A. Yes, sir. Q. Did you know the women be sides the ones you name?—A. No. Q. Can you describe them?—A. No. “Come down.” City Detective S. L. Rosser took the stand. Q. Since April 26, have you been engaged in this case?—A. Yes. Q. Did you visit Mrs. Arthur White subsequent to that date?—A. Yes. Q. At what time?—A. Monday, April 28. Q. Did she say anything about see ing a negro at the pencil factory Sat urday?—A. No. Q. What was tho first time she mentioned to you seeing a negro at the factory?—A. May 6. “I want to record an objection to that, your honor," said Rosser. Rosser took the witness. She Made Statement. Q. Did you ask her?—A. No; but she made a statement. Dorsey took the witness on redi rect. Q. Did *you take anything to Dr. Claude Smith?—A. Yes; some chips. Q. Are these the chips?—A. Yes. Q. Did you make a search of the areaway around the elevator?—A. Yes. Q. Did you find anything like this (showing the bludgeon alleged to have been found by the Pinkertons) ?—A. No. Q. Would you have Yes. Attorney Rosser took the witness again. Q. Don’t you know this roller has been In that factory two years?—A. It may have been, but it was not on the first floor when we made our search. State Wins Ruling. Q. You made a good search?—A. Yes. Q. Do you know these are the same chips?—A. Yes, I am sure of that. The witness was excused. Dorsey addressed the court: “I don't know whether we tendered that bloody shirt or not. 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