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E'S THE TIME CL
PUZZLE IN FRANK TRIAL;
CAN yOU FIGURE IT OUT?
THE RIDDLE OF THE CLOCK
IN THE PHAGAN MYSTERY
Jim Conley swears Mary Phagan went up the stairs of the
National Pencil factory and was murdered before Monteen
Stover arrived. He says he saw Miss Stover go up and leave.
Monteen Stover, State's witness, swears she arrived at
12:05.
George Epps, State’s witness, swears he and Mary Phagan
arrived at Marietta and Forsyth streets at 12:07.
The car crew, defense’s witnesses, swear Mary arrived at
Broad and Marietta at 12:07y 2 and at Broad and Hunter at
12:10.
If Mary Phagan was at Marietta and Forsyth at 12:07, as
the State says, or at Broad and Hunter at 12:10, as the defense
says, how could she have preceded Monteen Stover, as Jim
Conley says, up the factory stairs, when M ; ' - was in the
factory at 12:05?
What’s the answer?
By JAMES B. NEVIN.
Tick-lock! Tick-tock!
11 (irk to the tale of the old hall dock!
9Hrk-toek! Tick-tock!
This is the tale of the clock!
—Old English Ballad.
This is a tale of an office clock and
a motorman’e watch—an office clock
in the National Pencil Factory, the
first requisite of which, it being a
“rime ’ clock. 1s accuracy, and a mo-
torimn’f watch.
And thin is the story of a clock that
m”v or may not mean life and liberty
and a restored good name to Leo
Frank, or—a fate infinitely worse
than mere death itself!
it i* a story involving a young busi-
n*f« men of repute and high stand-
l^sr. a college graduate and a husband,
a 1 rave, womanly little girl, foully
murdered, a motorman known to
many A* inn tans, a newsboy not 90
well V" wn. a disinterested working
girl .. ioffo sweeper, a confessed ac-
reg?'-- to murder, the dead girl’s
-motV*—and an office clock.
,v ' at does the story demonstrate'’
rr ’- shall be for the reader to say.
,- s the story:
What the State Contends.
The State of Georgia is contending
that Leo Frank murdered on April
28. before the hour of 12:05 in the
afternoon. Mary Phagan. a 14-year-
old working girl, employed in the Na
tional Pencil Factory, of which Frank
was the superintendent.
It cites, among others, to bear out
its contention. James Conley, a negro
sweeper in the factory, and M^nteen
Stover, an employee of the factory.
Miss Stover is a disinterested wlt-
ness---Conley not only is the star
witness against Frank, but is inter
ested In fixing the murder upon
Frank.
Here is What the State, by itg own
witnesses, asserts:,
Jim Conley swears that a few min
utes before Miss Monteen Stover came
into the factory—Miss Stover herself
•wearing that she entered at 12:05—
Mary Phagan entered and passed up
stairs and into Leo Frank’s office.
Miss Stover, asked how she was
positive as to the time she went in
and the time she came out, stated
that she looked at the time clock botii
as* she came in and as she went out.
That fixes the time of her coming
and going definitely and exactly.
It was before Miss Stover came in
that Conley swears Mary Phagan
came in. Therefore, Mary Phagan
must have arrived at the factory, ac
cording to Conley, at least before
12:05, the moment Miss Stover came
in.
Before Miss Stover Entered.
But after Mary came in, and before
Miss Stover came In, the murder,
still according to Conley, had been
effected.
For (a) after Mary went upstairs
and before Mias Stover came in, Con
ley (b) heard pattering footsteps
toward the rear of the building, where
(c) he says the body was found by
him later, and after that (d) a
scream, and then (e) a period of
silence. •
All of this, according to Conley, be
fore Monteen Stover entered the fac
tory—that is, before 12:05 certainly—
and, considering the things Conley
swears happened, several minutes be
fore 12:05, necessarily.
Mrs. Coleman. Mary’s mother,
swears that Mary left home “about
11:45’’ in the morning, and George
Epps swears he joined her on the car
at 11:50, for he looked at a clock at
home just before boarding the car.
and that he and Mar*' arrived at
Marietta and Forsyth streets at 12:07,
the latter hour not definitely fixed in
his mind. 0
Motorman Remembers Time.
The motorman on that car. how r -
ever, who swears he knew Mary Pha
gan, and had seen her board his car
frequently, and remembers seeing her
board that particular car on that par
ticular day, says that the car arrived
at Marietta and Forsyth at 12:7^, je
that is the time it is scheduled to ar
rive there, and he was running on
time that day.
The motorman swears Mary and a
companion got off at Hunter and
Broad about 12:10. that being a few
minutes’ farther run than Marietta
and Forsyth. The conductor corrob
orates the motorman in an additional
statement that the car was not run
ning ahead of schedule, the conduc
tors being particularly required by
the company not to run ahead of
time.
Mary Phagan left the street car at
12:10, still a block and a half from
the pencil factory.
If she walked directly to the fac
tory, she could not have reached
there before 12:12. in any event.
If the little victim of this tragedv.
Mary Phagan, therefore. DID NOT
REACH THE FACTORY UNTIL
MANY MINUTES AFTER CONLEY
SWEARS SHE DID GET THERE.
AND UNTIL AT LEAST TWO MIX- t
UTES AFTER MONTEEN STOVER*
HAD DEPARTED. AND UNTIL
AFTER CONLEY SWEARS HE HAD
HEARD THE FOOTSTEPS AND
THE SCREAM. HOW CAN CON
LEY’S STORY BE TRUE?
Slain Before Sh© Arrived?
In other words, how could Mary
Phagan have been murdered before
she arrived at the factory?
Remember, too, that when Frank
was asked at the Coroner’s Inquest as
to tht- time of Mary Phagan’s arrival,
he said that it was after 12, because
the noon whistle had blown some time
before—that she might have arrived
at 12:10 or, maybe later, perhaps as
late as 12:20 or 12:25.
Conley, also, in fixing the time of
Mary Phagan’s arrival at the factory,
said it was soon after the noon whis
tle blew, therefore, a little after 12
—thus placing Mary’s arrival between
12 and the time of Monteen Stover’s
arrival, which was 12:05.
Now then, take your pencil and
paper, and figure this problem out for
yourself.
Can you reconcile Conley's story
with the other things proved, in the
main, by the State’s own witnesses?
Poteat Suggests Jail Two Girls to Accuse
For Slit Skirt Girls Diggs and Caminetti
NEW HAVEN. CONN.. Aug. 9.—
President Edwin Poteat, of Furman
College, Greenville, S. C.. says young
women who are parading in New Ha
ven with slit skirts should be put in
jail.
“Women who indulge in such de
praved dress are a menace morally to
the commonwealth,'' said Poteat.
65,000,000 Pounds
Of Butter On Ice
CHICAGO. Aug. 9.—Although Chi
cago housewives have been paying
mid-winter prices for butter and a
further advance is expected, there are
more than 85,000,000 pounds in cold
storage, according to the Warehouse
men's Association. This is 10,000,000
more than the reserve a year ago.
RAN p-RANCIKCO, Aug. 9.—Marsha
Warrington and Ida Norris, the Sac
ramento high school girls alleged to
have been taken to Reno In November
by Maury I. Diggs and Drew Caminetti
for immoral purposes, will take the
stand against Diggs when his trial is
resumed Tuesday. No session of the
Diggs trial was held to-day. Diggs
and Caminetti will take the stand be
fore the trial Is concluded.
Judge Van Fleet dealt the defense
another hard blow yesterday when he
announced that the jury would not con
sider the willingness or unwillingness of
e two girls to accompany Diggs and
Caminetti.
HAZELHURST HOME BURNS.
HAZELHURST.—The residence of
R. T. Williams burned thie morning
at 2 o’clock, the family barely escap
ing. The loss is 13,800 with $1,500
insurance. Tne fire originated about
the kitchen.
THE ATLANTA GEORGIAN AND NEWS.
HOW TIME HAS BECOME THE CRUCIAL
POINT IN THE TRIAL OF LEO M. FRANK
2 0 Mary leaves car at 12:07 by State's testimony arc! 1°:10 by a
O witnesses for the defense. t1
Mary boards the Coop
er street car at 11:50,
according to wit
nesses for
both State
and de
fense.
Monteen Stover enters
factory at 12:05 and
leaves at 12:10.
She swore she
was certain
of the
time.
Mary
Phagan
leaves her
home at 11:45,
according to her mother
Jim Con
ley swears he
saw Mary Pha
gan enter and
heard her scream
BEFORE Monteen Sto
ker came.
Absence of Alienists and
The Hypothetical Question
Distinguishes Frank Trial
By O. B. KEELER.
There are two things about the
Frank trial that entitle it to dis
tinguished consideration.
Thus far not a single alienist has
been called to bat, and only the com
mon or domesticated type of the
dread Hypothetical Question has Ap
peared.
In most of our great murder trials,
the alienist is th e last resort, or one
of the latest resorts. Usually ho is in
troduced by the defense; anywhere
from four to eight of him.
The prosecution promptly counters
with an equal number of wheel in
spectors.
The defense (vide Thaw case) gen
erally proves to its own satisfaction
that the defendant was crazy when
he did it, but since has recovered his
equilibrium, his alibi and all the rest
of his scattered personal effects.
The four to eight experts for the
State differ slightly with this find
ing.
They All Agree.
They report that to the best, of
their several and collective knowl
edge and belief, which is consider
able, the defendant is the happy pos
sessor of one of the sangpt little noo
dles they ever had the pleasure of
sitting on. They say there is prac
tically no chance that any such care
fully-geared aggregation of mental
sprockets ever slipped a cog.
But they add that, if the defense
insists on the accused having been
non compos at the time he did it, he
most assuredly is in the same condi
tion at present, or more so.
In short, the State contends that
the defendant either should be hang
ed or remanded to the solitary uphol
stery' for the rest of his life, accord
ing to which is most highly objec
tionable to the defense.
Vide Thaw case ad lib.
One Notable Exception.
There Is only one case on record
where a corps of alienists employed
by one side agreed w’ith those hired
by the opposition.
It seems that the accused person,
without any advice or i^iggestion from
his lawyers, broke out all over with
shockingly acute symptoms of demen
tia soon after he was arrested.
The defense ordefed out the alien
ists.
They reported that the accused un-
questionaDly was insane—remarkably
insane.
Then the prosecution recruited its
experts to the full war strength an3
ordered them to advance with cau
tion.
To the intense surprise of everyone,
including the defense, they reported
that the prisoner was crazy beyond
the shadow of a peradventure. They
said he couldn’t be any crazier with
out coming apart.
Well, that just about settled It.
What prosecution could hold oui
against the combined forces of two
sets of alienists? It was the first
time on record that the warring ex
perts heu agreed.
And this time they were both
wrong.
Inside of a year the record-holder
for craziness—sprints, middle dis
tance and Marathon had got himself
out of the bat factory and war en
joying life in a more congenial 'imo
that had no extradition provisions in
the treaty, if any.
The Hypothetical Question.
The hypothetical question Is used
rather more frequently than the alien
ist. because it is less expensive and
embarrarssing, while offering no more
than an even break to the other side
and confusing the jury fully as muon
as the most complicated alienistic
explosions.
When the h. q. is sprung by the
defense, an expert of considerable
pedigree Is propped up in the wit
ness chair and compelled to listen,
with the jury and such of the auditor*
as can stay awake, to a detailed rela
tion of incidents beginning some time
before the birth of th*j accused and
extending to the date of the crlm^,
with provisions and qualifications to
fill out four hours and a half and
eleven columns of “six point.’’
Then the expert says:
“No.”
After which an exrert for the other
side listens to the same recital, re
peated.
And he says:
“Yes.”
What the Jury says never gets into
print.
French Tars Flee in Panic.
L’ORIENT, FRANCE, Aug.
Twenty sailors on board the French
battleship Courbet were* scalded and
otherwise injured to-day when a tank
exploded on the ship Thinking that
the magazine had let go the crew
rushed on the decks in a panic and
many leaped overboard.
ENTRIES
AT FORT ERIE.
FIRST—Purse, $500; two year olds; 5
furlongs: Old Reliable 103, Half Law
108. Our Mabelle 105, Dark Rosaleen 110,
Moss Fox 108, Lady Isle 105.
SECOND—Purse. $500; selling; three
year olds; 6 furlongs: Pampinea 100,
Gasket 105. Queed 102, Counterpart 107,
Battery 102 Fred Levy 107, Mother
Katcham 105, Ralph Lloyd 107.
THIRD—Purse, $600; three-year-olds
and up; 6 furlongs: Panzaretta 95, Cowl
103, Calgary 100, Upright 105, Crlsco 100,
Joe Knight 105, Early Light 100, Media
tor 105, Sun Queen 103, Duquesne 108.
FOURTH—Iroquois Hotel Stakes Han
dicap. $1,500; two year olds; 5% fur
longs: Peacock 95. Perpetual 105, Miss
Gayle 103 Dasher 112, .hist Y 105, Czar
Michael 114, Yandergrift 123.
FIFTH—Mile and 70 yards; $600;
three-year-olds and up: Camellia 99,
Cousin Puss 104, Clubs 101. Klwah 104.
Just Red 101, Font 106. Melton Street
114.
SIXTH—Purse: three-year-olds and
up; selling, $500; 1 1-16 miles: Mie-
cosukee 90, Silicic 104 Mis.sle 95, Lord
Elam 104, Marshon 95, Spindle 104,
Adolante 103, Bobby Cook 10fe, Be 103.
Ethel Edmondson Overwhelmed
by Wrightsville Breakers—At
tempted Rescue Fails.
Miss Ethel Edmondson. 24, daugh
ter of Mrs. S. P. Fincher, of No. 343
North Jackson street, was drowned at
Wrightsville Beach Friday afternoon.
She had been at the beach but a few
hours when she decided to enter the
surf. Scarcely had she reached the
water when a huge wave raced in and
SEVENTH 3-year-olds and up, purse
$500. selling, mile and one-sixteenth:
Pliant 101, Captain Bravo 106, Tactics
103, Tom Sayers 108, Floral Day 105,
Rash 108
x—Apprentice allowance claimed.
Weather cloudy; track slow.
TORONTO ENTRIES.
FIRST—Two-year-old maidens, 5 fur
longs: I.adie Haver 84. Hope 89, Miss
Harvey 108, Ironical 106, Miss Edna
Fenwick 108. Outclassed 110, Porcupine
110, Satinbower 113, Longus 115.
SECOND—Two-year-olds, selling. 7
furlongs: xNoon 107. xFlims 107, Miss
Menard 110, Miss Dulin 110, Carrillon
110, Moonlight 112. Jim O 112, Tackle
112, Star Ashland 112, Running Account
115.
knocked her down.
Roy Walraven. of Atlanta, who was
with Miss Edmondson, was stunned
for a moment by the force of the
wave, but recovered quickly and went
to her rescue. He had a terrific strug
gle and but for the timely arrival
of Life Saver W. E. Watson he prob
ably would have lost his life.
Miss Edmondson left Atlanta on
Thursday night with a party of seven
for a ten-day stay at the beach.
She was a member of Grace Meth
odist Church and was employed as a
THIRD—Four-vear-olds and up. sell
ing. about 5 furlongs: Mary Pickford
100, Nancy Orrne 100, Ollie Byrne 100,
The Parson 100, Charles T 100 xWinnie
McGee 101, xTom Hancock 104, Littlest
Rebel 106, Tlk Tok 109. Rummage 109.
FOURTH—Three-year-olds and up,
selling. 5 furlongs: xOrimar Lad 102,
Naybelide 105. Booby 105, Dustpan 107,
Toddling 107, Golliwogg 107, Curious
107, Ulipian 107, Fanchette 110, star
board 112.
FIFTH—Three-year-olds and up, sell
ing about 5 furlongs: Protagoris 100,
xPhew 100, Cassanova 105. Racing Belle
110, Jim Milton 112, Premier 112, Joe
Gailens 112. Maurice Reed 112, Dust
112 McAndrews 112.
SIXTH Four-year-olds and up, sell
ing, 6Vfc furlongs: Sandman 102, I
Melons 105, Golden Baby 106, xYar
Lotus 106, xOhilton Squaw 108 Port
Arlington 108, Barndance 108, Rose burg
II 11.0, Merlse 111, Leialoha 111
SEVENTH—*Four-year-olds and up.
selling, about 5 funong^ xCerh 1"-’.
1 ady Robbins 105, xCap Nelson J0«. Lon
Lanier 110, Arrow Shaft 11". ,en,, ' <r
Wells 110, Turkev In The straw 1 m■
Evelyn Doris 110. Lima 110. Lari or
Richmond 112
■ .year-olds and up,
‘ h 97, Janus
107 Cati.iue 10S. Kitten I0K. Mhi 111.
Soil* “f n.irkt. 111. HoKarl 113. Lasaja
113 Camel 116
ar-olds and up. mile ;
», Ursula Emma
Hose O i\en iv», A.Henotic 105. Our |
Vueftt 105. Bad News II 106, Palma
106 t’ierre Dumas 109. Yeneta Strome
ll«/ Senator Sparks 115.
x—Apprentice allowance.
Cloudy; muddy.
AT SARATOGA.
FIRST RACE Handicap, 2-year-olds,
&V2 furlongs: Boot and Saddle 119. Rit
ter Gold 113. Cassuarina 122, Bringhurst
118. Cutuway 109, Enerbey 108, Sur
prising 114, Edith W. 106, Superin
tendent 98, Gtmxy 105. Northerner 102,
Harry L*. 106, Ralph 95, U 1 lagan 107.
stenographer by the Wester Mush
Company.
News of her daughter’s sudden
death almost prostrated Mr Fincher.
The body is expected to arrive in At-
ltnata to-day. Funeral arrangements
will be announced later.
Unclt
Also eliglbl
Dowell in::
SECOND RACE
Mun 102. King Me
Steeplechase
year
and
WSummary’W.’Hui'iUl'y 130, Bayport
jn, man
Garth 142,
3-
miles:
Repentant
132. Arm
14
EIGHTH -Three
1 JO, >«!■■■■ ’ -
N i NTH—Th roe - yea r - ok
sixteenth: Gagnet
109. Hose O’Neil 104. xHi
. -ithr K \<t: All ages. Hlghtweight
I handicap. 6 furlongs: Kingllng 115 Sir
,JJh, Johnson 136. Flying Yankee 117,
i vn! va 10 *. Ballycllff 125. iHirose 118.
i i,,137 Foundtion 138. Preaeump-
! 129. Seimgo 139. Sickle 122. Silver-
' „,,„in - 112. Isidora 122. Semprite 120.
eligible: Housemaid 131, Aziade
i-'i Besom 130, Nightstick 130, Scally
wag 126.
FOURTH RACK Selling. 3-year-olds
and up. 1 mile Bob R. 118. Oakhurst
107. xEila Bryson 104. xRolling Stone
101. xJoe Dei hold 102. Royal Meteor 103,
Towtonfield 110.
FIFTH RACE- Two-year-old fillys
and geldings, m&diens. 5 Vi furlongs:
Miss Cavanagh 108, Bradley's Choice
108, Undaunted 108, Ash Can 108, Irides-
rence 108, lone 108, Harvest Queen 108,
Yalkyrie 108, Kilcrea 108, Hillstream
108. Tranid 108. Charlestonian 109,
Elbold 108, Tea Enough 108, Humilia
tion 108.
SIXTH RACE- Selling. 3-year-olds
and up, 1 mile: i tart worth 108, Creme de
Menthe 108, Little Jupiter 104, Kate K.
108, Working Lad 108, Sir Denrah 108.
x Jaw bone 115, x'Col. Ashmeade 100,
Ballnhe 119. Shash 108, Bunch of Keys
101. Tick Tack 106, Severence 108,
Grenlda 105.
xApprentice allowance claimed.
Weather, clear. Truck, fast.
SPOILS CLOSE OF GAUD
DAY FOR THE DEFENSE
What promised to be a very favor
able day for the defense in the trial
of Loo M. Frank, charged with the
murder of Mary Phagan, was partly
spoiled at Its close Friday by the be
wilderment of E. F. Holloway, day
watchman at the pencil factory, in a
maze of conflicting statements.
Holloway’s confusion under the fire
of tiie Solicitor General was more
than offset by the importance of the
testimony which had gone before,
two of the witnesses giving testimony
which was Intended to establish that
Mary Phagan did not enter the Na
tional Pencil Factory on the day of
her death until after Monteen Stover
had come and gone.
Besides giving the lie direct to Jim
Conley’s tale, this testimony, if it
stands as the truth in the minds of
the jurors*, upsets the State’s theory
that Monteen Stover visited the office
of Leo Frank while the superintend
ent was in the metal room with the
Phagan girl.
Conley said on the stand that he
saw Lemmie Quinn, then Mary Pha
gan and then Monteen Stover go up
to the second floor. The Stover girl
said that she entered the factory at
12:05 o’clock. It was 12:10 when she
left, she testified. She looked at the
time clock both times.
Street Car Men Testify.
W. M. Matthews and W. T. Hollis*,
the motorman and conductor on the
car w hich brought Mary into town the
day that she met her death, testified
that she did not leave the car before
12:10 o’clock, the inference from this
testimony being that she could not
have entered the factory before Mon
teen Stover and entered and left.
If the testimony of George Epps
the State’s witness, is accepted, the
defense declares Mary Phagan could
not have entered the plant before
Monteen Stover.
Matthews said that he knew the
girl by sight and frequently spoke to
her when she boarded his car. He
said that he was relieved at Broad
and Marietta streets at 12:07 o’clock
the day of the crime and that h*>
went inside the car and sat back
of Mary Phagan and a girl compan
ion while they were riding to Broad
and Hunter streets. He said they
got off at about 12:10 and walked to
ward the pencH factory.
Matthews' story contradicts that of
George Epps, who testified on the
stand that he rode to town with
Mary, got off the car with her at
Forsyth and Marietta streets and
walked as far as the viaduct with her
on her way to the pencil factory.
Matthews and Hollis both said that
was said to have made about Conley
being “my nigger” when a reference
was made to the reward* offered. He
also showed an affidavit signed by
Holloway saying that Darley had left
the factory the Saturday of the killing
at 10:45 in the forenoon Darley had
testified that he left at about 9:30
and Holloway had said only a few
minutes before that Darley left about
9:20 or 9:30.
“What did you say 10:45 for in the
affidavit you signed for me shortly
after th e murder?” shouted the So
licitor.
“That was mostly guesswork,” ex
plained the witness.
“Did you tell Mr. Arnold that you
left the factory every day about 5:30
o’clock?”
“Yes.”
Said 3, but Meant 4 o’Clock.
“Didn’t you tell me that you left
sometimes at 3 o’clock?”
“if i said 3. i meant 4.”
“What did you mean by 4:30 Just
now?”
“That just slipped out.”
N V. Darley. general manager of
the factory; H. J. Hinehey, of No. 391
Peachtree street; Harry Scott,
“Boots” Rogers, I. U. Kauffman, T. H.
Willett and J. Q. Adams were the
other witnesses of the day.
Kauffman identified blueprints and
drawings he had made of the Relig
home and of the pencil factory. Wil
lett explained the pasteboard model
of the factory that he had made from
the blueprints. Adams identified
photographs he had made at the Se-
lig home and the factory.
Hinehey told of seeing Frank com
ing from home on a Washington
street car the afternoon of the crime.
This was intended to discredit Al
bert McKnight. one of the State's
witnesses, who said that he . saw
Frank board a Georgia avenue car
when he left home.
Darley was recalled largely to tes
tify to the possibility of various
methods which Conley might have
employed in disposing of the girl’s
body in the event he was the mur
derer of the girl.
New Theory Is Suggested.
The most startling sugestion cama
from Darley’s testimony that a door
leading from the entrvwav on the
first floor into the rear of the build
ing was found broken open right
after the crime. Two trap doors open
into the basement from this rear
room. One of them is over a chute.
Reuben Arnold, bv his line of ques
tioning, showed that the defense se
riously had considered the theiry that
the girl’s murderer had dragged her
through this door on the first floor
and had dropped her body down the
chute.
The Solicitor brought out that the
door might have been opened by the
detectives in their search of the
building and that if the body ever
had been dropped down the chute It
most probably would have been left
there, as it would have been perfectly
hidden.
they had no recollection of Epps be
ing on the car. Hollis said that Mary
was sitting alone when he took her
fare just after the car got onto Eng
lish avenue. Matthews said another
young girl was sitting with her when
the center of town was reached.
Attacks Conley’s Story.
The significance of the story of the
two street car men !s that It seems
to add another falsehood to the many
that Jim Conley already has told and
freely admitted telling.
He did not see Mary Phagan go up
stairs to Frank's office, hear the
sounds of footsteps going to the metal
room, then a girl’s scream, and after
this witness the entrance and depar
ture of Monteen Stover. On the con
trary, the Stover girl was In the fa~
tory and gone before Mary Phagan
came Inside the doors.
Holloway, the day watchman, wa *
called back to the stand by the de
fense to testify in rebuttal of Con
ley’s testimony in regard to the a'-
Do You Know
Where to Buy
These Things
?
Magnifying Glasse%
Linen Testers,
Microscopes,
Goggles,
Stereoscopes,
Compasses,
visits of women to Prank s of
fice. Hollownv said that no incidents
of this sort ever took place. Pnni»v |
would have had no opportunity *»f|
watching at the door without hit
(Holloway’s) knowing It, lie declared
H,. denied lhat Daisy Hopkins ever
visited the factory with a man while
that immorality *-f
jmy sort was practiced in the build-
I !ng to his knowledge. He said that
Herbert Schiff and Frank were gener
ally In the office together on Satur
days and that neither of them ever
had women in the office.
Solicitor Dorsey began cross-exam
ining Holloway in savage fashion and
soon had the watchman badly rattled.
At one time Holloway refused to com
mit himself as to what he had testi
fied only a moment before.
“Was that negro drayman there
Saturday—you mu id so awhile ago,
didn’t you?” asked the Solicitor.
Holloway floundered while Dorsey
was insisting on an answer. He
could not remember what he had tes
tified. Finally he blurted out:
“If I said he was there, he was.
If 1 said he wasn’t there, he wasn’t,”
Refers to Reward Claim.
“But what Is the truth?” persisted
Dorsey.
Holloway continued to return the
same answer until Judge Roan forced
him to make a definite reply. Then
he took refuge in the old reliable an
swer; “1 don’t remember.”
The Solicitor called Holloway’s at
tention to a remark that the watchman
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